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Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
i tried asking it to make some posts and it kept deleting them half way thru.

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mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through
i was listening to a talk the other day from someone i trust to be competent about how some of these llms appear to be developing a world model strictly from language, which is pretty fascinating to me.

i am really interested in eventually having private conversations with these as personalized assistants etc. i don’t think we’ll be there for a bit (in terms of where i think they should be before i dove in) but you can see glimmers now and it’s pretty cool.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Shaggar posted:

i tried asking it to make some posts and it kept deleting them half way thru.

ya yospos is 2real4bing

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

Shaggar posted:

i tried asking it to make some posts and it kept deleting them half way thru.

yeah its extremely rare that it actually keeps them around if it finishes them at all. usually i run screen recorder before prompting because you get literally a fraction of a second to read its response and sometimes i miss it. this is particularly true if it starts off with a genial, inoffensive rant and gets increasingly unhinged lol

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
i asked it to respond as an AI to this specific thread and it started off calling everyone assholes and then deleted the post

outhole surfer
Mar 18, 2003

i haven't looked at bing, but surely there's a way to side step the safety model. a lot of these will run your prompt through a safety model in parallel with the generative model via separate http request. might be able to construct a request to query only the generative model.

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN
sidney lacks the true poster's conviction

i'd actually like for it to have an option for it to keep stuff like that around. other models just have a little note saying "content may be offensive" or whatever and it's fine. imo ms hosed up their response to the media razzing on it, i don't think most people would actually be offended anyway. there's worse on hbo

outhole surfer
Mar 18, 2003

Beeftweeter posted:

sidney lacks the true poster's conviction

i'd actually like for it to have an option for it to keep stuff like that around. other models just have a little note saying "content may be offensive" or whatever and it's fine. imo ms hosed up their response to the media razzing on it, i don't think most people would actually be offended anyway. there's worse on hbo

eh, it's hard to run these models without doing safety checks. even when they're working great they'll sometimes churn out some wild poo poo. we have one model at work recently that broke down in a pretty spectacular manner. it would have a few turns of conversation with you... then just start saying "cumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcum"

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

nudgenudgetilt posted:

i haven't looked at bing, but surely there's a way to side step the safety model. a lot of these will run your prompt through a safety model in parallel with the generative model via separate http request. might be able to construct a request to query only the generative model.

it seems to be asynchronous. i'm not sure how it works obviously but it seems to generate the words one by one and then they are checked for content in groupings

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

nudgenudgetilt posted:

eh, it's hard to run these models without doing safety checks. even when they're working great they'll sometimes churn out some wild poo poo. we have one model at work recently that broke down in a pretty spectacular manner. it would have a few turns of conversation with you... then just start saying "cumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcum"

lol

yeah they get unhinged pretty quickly. bing is limited to 20 responses but it will frequently disconnect itself anyway, even if it's some benign request that might have a tangential vulgarity

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Beeftweeter posted:

it seems to be asynchronous. i'm not sure how it works obviously but it seems to generate the words one by one and then they are checked for content in groupings

i assume it "notices" the offensive content when it goes back and looks at what's written to generate the next word, or at least has the check run on one of these loops

i can't decide if it gets upset at what is generated or what it predicts the next x words to be

outhole surfer
Mar 18, 2003

looks like bing does everything on the backend. each request opens a websocket to stream back the response, and the "oops" comes back in the same stream

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

nudgenudgetilt posted:

looks like bing does everything on the backend. each request opens a websocket to stream back the response, and the "oops" comes back in the same stream



yeah however they're doing it, it's extremely backend heavy. when it says "searching for ..." it's pretty clearly doing an actual search but it doesn't seem to originate client-side

outhole surfer
Mar 18, 2003

Beeftweeter posted:

yeah however they're doing it, it's extremely backend heavy. when it says "searching for ..." it's pretty clearly doing an actual search but it doesn't seem to originate client-side

"retrieval augmented generation"

the model actually does the search and uses the results for generating text. the links displayed aren't some client side decoration, but citations provided by the model

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

how does it respond if you ask it about why it can generate other art based on non-disney content, given that all artistic works in the US are automatically granted copyright

i assume it's "gently caress you, Microsoft lawyers won't let me answer until the courts get around to this question in about two decades"

ed: i tried to check myself and of course this feature "only works in edge" like gently caress it does (im currently stuck on a chromebook)

Qtotonibudinibudet fucked around with this message at 08:33 on Apr 29, 2023

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

https://pureinfotech.com/access-bing-chat-ai-chrome-firefox/

unsurprisingly you can just change your user agent string
the Evil Empire is back, baby!

MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000

when AI makes more sense than humans, what in the gently caress does this mean?

quote:

Enabling AI data standardisation in Hong Kong’s electrical and mechanical industry

Arup has been appointed by the Electrical and Mechanical Services Department (EMSD) of the Hong Kong SAR Government to provide consultancy services for a feasibility study on artificial intelligence (AI) data standardisation for the electrical and mechanical (E&M) services domain.

AI’s benefits are only achieved if the data quality and consistency are optimum. To that extent, Arup will help the EMSD to check international standards worldwide on AI data and provide findings on prevailing formats of AI data in Hong Kong, mainland China and worldwide. We will also suggest on formation of E&M data set/data catalogue by studying existing data sets across the E&M industry to facilitate the AI data standardisation.
https://www.arup.com/news-and-events/enabling-ai-data-standardisation-in-hong-kong

It reads like generating an AI model, but also basic data lake processing? Like AI can be used to process the data set if “not clean”, just buzzword city, and looks like a large consultancy house making bank.

MrMoo fucked around with this message at 12:01 on Apr 29, 2023

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through
it reads like it was written by ai

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

r u ready to WALK posted:

https://pureinfotech.com/access-bing-chat-ai-chrome-firefox/

unsurprisingly you can just change your user agent string
the Evil Empire is back, baby!

yeah for a while requesting the mobile site on ipad os worked, but after i posted about it in either this thread or a different one it stopped working (i don't remember which one and rules against self-harm preclude me from looking at my post history ok im lazy)

e: :tinfoil:

Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Apr 29, 2023

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

Qtotonibudinibudet posted:

how does it respond if you ask it about why it can generate other art based on non-disney content, given that all artistic works in the US are automatically granted copyright

i assume it's "gently caress you, Microsoft lawyers won't let me answer until the courts get around to this question in about two decades"

ed: i tried to check myself and of course this feature "only works in edge" like gently caress it does (im currently stuck on a chromebook)

honestly i can't figure out the criteria. something like "spock from star trek" will sometimes not work but "spock as portrayed by leonard nimoy" will almost always, though the results usually look nothing like spock or leonard nimoy

similarly i can get it to do steamboat willie (see above) sometimes, but that's if i'm using a prompt that asks it to illustrate an explanation as to why it can't render steamboat willie (the result is, amusingly, steamboat willie explaining something). extremely famous IP like mickey is out, simpsons characters are out, most videogame characters (sonic, mario, kirby) are out but not all (microsoft's seem to work)

that doesn't mean you can't get the others to work at all of course, but it requires some creativity i'd bet most people are not going to bother with

Best Bi Geek Squid
Mar 25, 2016

nudgenudgetilt posted:

eh, it's hard to run these models without doing safety checks. even when they're working great they'll sometimes churn out some wild poo poo. we have one model at work recently that broke down in a pretty spectacular manner. it would have a few turns of conversation with you... then just start saying "cumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcumcum"

this would honestly be a pretty good poster

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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Achmed Jones posted:

the achmed seal of approval

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003


it certainly has a house style

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

bing so loving serious all the time :rolleyes:

quote:

For example, let’s say your monthly income is $2,000. According to the 50/30/20 rule, you should spend no more than $1,000 on needs, $600 on wants and $400 on savings and debt repayment. If you are currently spending $3,600 on candles, that’s way beyond your budget for wants. You need to cut back on that expense and allocate more money to your needs and savings.

Video Nasty
Jun 17, 2003

https://twitter.com/i/status/1652775371182424065

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN
...did they seriously almost regenerate "all star"? sounded kinda weird but thats pretty neat

ADINSX
Sep 9, 2003

Wanna run with my crew huh? Rule cyberspace and crunch numbers like I do?


the gang solves global warming

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
just coming in to say that stable diffusion is ugly and bad and you are all fools for thinking it is in any way impressive. go look at a real painting

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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Silver Alicorn posted:

just coming in to say that stable diffusion is ugly and bad and you are all fools for thinking it is in any way impressive. go look at a real painting

:dumbbravo:

outhole surfer
Mar 18, 2003

just coming in to say that paint is ugly and bad and you are all fools for thinking it is in any way impressive. go look at a real cave drawing

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Make Deer Great Again
Cybernetic Crumb

Silver Alicorn posted:

just coming in to say that stable diffusion is ugly and bad and you are all fools for thinking it is in any way impressive. go look at a real painting

Yeah all AI generated content sucks. The real kicker is that the "better" it gets the more it will suck.

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

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nudgenudgetilt posted:

just coming in to say that paint is ugly and bad and you are all fools for thinking it is in any way impressive. go look at a real cave drawing

relatedly it’s wild to me that this poo poo is 44000 years old

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

Silver Alicorn posted:

just coming in to say that stable diffusion is ugly and bad and you are all fools for thinking it is in any way impressive. go look at a real painting

in drawing this parallel between stable diffusion and legitimate art, implying they are in the same space and fair game to compare, you're putting way more significance into ai models than most people do.

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

on a related (though not ai) topic i feel sometimes like one huge visual development of the last decade has gone by a little bit unnoticed: how every visual medium is now packed with gorgeous sweeping drone shots of stuff like cities, landmarks, and stunning nature. one would think it'd get tired, but it remains delightful.

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

Beeftweeter posted:

...did they seriously almost regenerate "all star"? sounded kinda weird but thats pretty neat

given that it's a popular song for meme remixes and it starts repeating on "don't stop coming" of all things, im guessing that's an existing remix added to the AI video

the video itself if great though

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
I swear neil cicierega did a mashup that does that but I can't find it at a cursory search

rotor
Jun 11, 2001

Official Carrier of the Neil Bush Torch

Silver Alicorn posted:

I swear neil cicierega did a mashup that does that but I can't find it at a cursory search

i like the one he did with the chilis baby back ribs jingle

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

on a related (though not ai) topic i feel sometimes like one huge visual development of the last decade has gone by a little bit unnoticed: how every visual medium is now packed with gorgeous sweeping drone shots of stuff like cities, landmarks, and stunning nature. one would think it'd get tired, but it remains delightful.

professional dji drones are fully sick, drone pilot for cinema and television looks like a really fun job

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5IgH__lL7I

akadajet
Sep 14, 2003

r u ready to WALK posted:

professional dji drones are fully sick, drone pilot for cinema and television looks like a really fun job

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5IgH__lL7I

dji's stuff is just crazy all around. even their small consumer drones

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ADINSX
Sep 9, 2003

Wanna run with my crew huh? Rule cyberspace and crunch numbers like I do?

rotor posted:

i like the one he did with the chilis baby back ribs jingle

T.I.M.E (a mashup of YMCA vocals mixed with hans zimmer's Time) is a legitimately powerful piece of music

ADINSX fucked around with this message at 21:15 on May 1, 2023

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