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What is the behavior today, GW, that "shot me down" in your ranking? Because the anger was yesterday.
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Wait, I forgot she is fuzzy on pain meds this whole time. ##Unvote
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Apr 21, 2023 22:10
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I figured this was going to happen immediately on day open. Now it is extraordinarily weird that it's being dredged up now while pretending there's nothing else to talk about. Y'all are the reason things have been slow, and y'all are also te reason conversation has not gone past my stupid role and disastrous play on day 1. I managed to get past feeing sorry for myself to keep playing the game, so i'd appreciate being met on the same level.
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Apr 21, 2023 22:18
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Johnny Keats posted:Maugrim's vote is completely out of character from the persona he's been cultivating, so he's probably scum too. It's been a full on couple of days and I've had to phonepost which makes it hard to do any more than drive-by posting. You're really spewing accusations left and right here, definitely feels like scum flailing. Johnny Keats posted:Used for what? Used how? Why haven't you posted anything valuable this game? Talk about one of the many other things happening in this game. If you're town, don't take it personally. You are, as you've rightly pointed out, the most prolific poster in the thread and have had many interactions with many players. Knowing your flip will let us examine those interactions and make lots of new/better reads. If I was in this situation, with a not-terribly-useful-apparently power like yours, I would be welcoming death for the sake of the team - dying as a towny doesn't mean you can't still win when town wins! If you're scum, carry on flailing I guess.
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Apr 21, 2023 22:34
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Sorry, Keats. This really isn’t about whether you’re scum or town, but because you really are a liability. You flubbed your role so hard you killed Meen (functionally) while the majority of people playing were all telling you exactly why your role doesn’t work you think it does… ##Vote Keats (Still giving Toal the sus eyes)
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Apr 21, 2023 22:39
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(And yes please don’t take it personally!! I’ve seen you play in many threads and think you’re fun to read and to play mafia with, I’m not trying to call you dumb or anything!)
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Paranoid Dude posted:Sorry, Keats. This really isn’t about whether you’re scum or town, but because you really are a liability. You flubbed your role so hard you killed Meen (functionally) while the majority of people playing were all telling you exactly why your role doesn’t work you think it does… That's in the past. I legitimately don't think there's any reason for town to give a poo poo about that. I'm not a liability, it's just apparently easy to convince apathetic town of that. Literally how am i a liability. I got meen killed, who cares. I am no longer a liability, so this boils down to the same logic of killing a 1-shot vig who shot town. Stop, step back, and gain some perspective.
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Apr 21, 2023 22:46
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Maugrim posted:You're really spewing accusations left and right here, definitely feels like scum flailing. It's called playing the game. This is extremely frustrating to hear. I would like to SCUMHUNT without being attacked cor it
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Apr 21, 2023 22:49
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I guess I shouldn't rely on night action mafia so heavily. I also targeted Keats and redirected action targeting them onto rwc who is my new mason mate. But if another also targeted keats... I wondeer. ##unvote
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Apr 21, 2023 22:52
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Johnny Keats posted:It's called playing the game. This is extremely frustrating to hear. I would like to SCUMHUNT without being attacked cor it It kinda felt like you were moving your vote to try to read the winds or something there keats, voting me, GW popping up, voting gw
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Apr 21, 2023 22:52
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Sandwolf posted:It kinda felt like you were moving your vote to try to read the winds or something there keats, voting me, GW popping up, voting gw Disagree. Seems standard when you're on the wire. Your post looks bad, sandy
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Apr 21, 2023 22:54
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Sandwolf posted:It kinda felt like you were moving your vote to try to read the winds or something there keats, voting me, GW popping up, voting gw I would have voted Toalpaz long ago if I were solely about self-preservation. I mean, she might be scum, I don't have a strong town read or anything. but I didn't like the push or the group of people pushing it.
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Apr 21, 2023 22:55
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I don't think I'm reading the game adequately well to put somebody at -1, I'm not &that* confident I should probably be more cautious ##unvote
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One thing I do want to say before I sleep tonight us let's not sleep on IA as I absolutely do think thsy scig would be willing to out two scum in a masonry, or a scum and a 3p, to shake things up. Sandwolf and toalpaz seem quiet? Day 3 probably isn't a bad day to vote our a quiet poster
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Apr 21, 2023 23:00
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Rhymes With Clue posted:Taste I don’t get it
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Apr 21, 2023 23:02
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Keats is not scum in any way I can read him - loquacious to a fault, absolutely, and shifting opinions as arguments happen a bit too quickly/openly, but not scum And I disagree deeply on the grounds of killing him "even if town" just for info
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Apr 21, 2023 23:04
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The time to be blaze about killing townies is not day 3 in a game where two people are dying oer night yeah.
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Apr 21, 2023 23:05
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Idle Amalgam posted:Disagree. Seems standard when you're on the wire. Deadline is tomorrow, so I didn’t realize he was at -5. Also keats your Toalpaz vote makes more sense to me than the GW one I think
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Apr 21, 2023 23:10
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I'm heading to bed so don't take my absence for the next 8 hours as ducking the conversation, but I've shifted my vote around a lot today already precisely because I'm not sure who to point to as scum. I have a few people in mind sure, Keats Toalpaz and Sandwolf are my top three. But given that I don't have a strong read, why NOT vote for the one whose power is apparently giving more confusion than useful data and whose death will give us the most info possible - especially as I personally think they've a decent chance of being scum anyway? Leaving my vote where it is for the moment.
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Apr 21, 2023 23:11
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Sandwolf posted:Deadline is tomorrow, so I didn’t realize he was at -5. Also keats your Toalpaz vote makes more sense to me than the GW one I think Lol sandwolf is actually scum this game.
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Apr 21, 2023 23:39
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Big to claim that my role, which reduces the amount of redirection every night and provides info (rolecop) that can further be used to piece together night actions.... is actually a liability to keep around over se redirection roles
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Apr 21, 2023 23:59
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Sandwolf, why did you talk about "two powers" or whatever before, in relation to your "launch" role? Did you think your role duplicates an action because of the confusing wording I mentioned?
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Apr 22, 2023 00:02
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GW speaks the truth... ##Vote Toal is still the way tbh
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Green Wing posted:One thing I do want to say before I sleep tonight us let's not sleep on IA as I absolutely do think thsy scig would be willing to out two scum in a masonry, or a scum and a 3p, to shake things up. 2 scum in an unconfirmed masonry is so dumb ##vote gw
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Apr 22, 2023 01:03
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##vote keats scum want a role cop to find meen and inf and also reducing redirection is good for scum kill. he is reacting like scum constantly
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Toalpaz posted:##vote keats Good thing I've been using it for my scum team, huh? *looks at flips*
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You have to acknowledge that me being scum means I would have been using my ability on scum at night. If you think I'd use it on town for smokescreen, then there is no problem in the first place, so the assumption is I'd use it on scum. You would then need to acknowledge one of two things: 1) None of the scum deaths originated from scum, because the kill should be unredirectable thanks to me. Aka the SK or whatever has played a perfect game killing scum at night. Possible? Sure. Bur acknowledge it 2) My power has not shown any ability to help scum kill town at night, so why start worrying now?
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All right, the night action I had went like this: I decided not to target anyone, then I got the message that I had been forced to target wins. My action invites a player into a masonry. Currently with me and IA. This is public information. So, someone forced my action, forcing me to target wins. Now it could have been a test of my claim, or it could have been scum just really eager to get into a masonry, but what I thought was that someone else's role got redirected onto me. IA said he redirected Keats to me. So in that case Keats's action would have been to target wins. And me? Now to me wins getting joined into a masonry doesn't look like anything that would benefit scum and I might be a little confused what with all these actions pinballing around (and don't get me wrong, it's great), but if IA is telling the truth then Keats selected me and wins for some reason. I have no idea how wins ended up dead but I wouldn't have wanted scum in the masonry anyway. Obviously, if I could help it. While it's true that the night actions have been not totally in scum's favor (heh) it doesn't seem like that is down to Keats's role.
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Anyway, people really do like to complain about other people doing night-action bingo a lot more than they like posting reads based on anything else.
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Rhymes With Clue posted:IA said he redirected Keats to me. IA says he directed actions targeting me to target you instead. That's different.
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If you're in a masonry with him, how do you not know that? Weird.
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t a s t e posted:I don’t get it Just another joke that fell flat.
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Johnny Keats posted:If you're in a masonry with him, how do you not know that? Weird. I did know that. I probaby phrased it wrong. But now I'm confused, we have multiple roles that have flipped as flkippers that target a player and force that player to activate their ability on another playier, also chosen by the flipper role. This sounds like what happened, and both wins and stalinator had that role, and there could be more (lots of flippers you know). So it sounds like Stalinator or wins or some unknown party wanted your action to end up on wins. Who was scum. So I'm going back and forth on whether I think you're scum but I do think there is evidence that scum wants your action used on one of them.
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Rhymes With Clue posted:I did know that. I probaby phrased it wrong. But now I'm confused, we have multiple roles that have flipped as flkippers that target a player and force that player to activate their ability on another playier, also chosen by the flipper role. This sounds like what happened, and both wins and stalinator had that role, and there could be more (lots of flippers you know). In that case Sandwolf is scum or scum doesn't have a reliable way to control my action.
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##Vote Taste Still think we should make this happen.
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Johnny Keats posted:In that case Sandwolf is scum or scum doesn't have a reliable way to control my action. I don't get the Sandwolf connection. You got "launch" as a result from targeting Sand, right? I had that word as a result of something that happened to me N1, obviously nonfatal.
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Rhymes With Clue posted:I don't get the Sandwolf connection. Doesn't matter who I targeted. Sandwolf is claiming the role I ended up at.
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Good point though, maybe it is a different role. That would certainly explain Sandwolf's "two actions" thing. The role i saw simply targets a player and redirects that player's ability randomly.
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Oh, it does specify that the person *that player* visits will be aware they were visited. So probably whoever visited you on that night was themselves the target of whoever has the "launch" I saw (probably still Sandwolf)
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