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Yeah, Taste is either scum or has no interest in playing the game. He coasted last time as scum this same way. Get in
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Also, if I flip here, stay suspicious of the people town-reading me. Don't be complacent. Maybe even let my flip jar you out of suspended animation.
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Apr 22, 2023 16:45
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Johnny Keats posted:Yeah, Taste is either scum or has no interest in playing the game. He coasted last time as scum this same way. Get in I led the game in posting as scum, cope
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Apr 22, 2023 17:10
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t a s t e posted:I led the game in posting as scum, cope It's clear you don't care about finding scum in this game. I'll definitely be studying this for my next scum game though, because people don't seem to care about your scummy posting.
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Apr 22, 2023 17:27
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Johnny Keats posted:It's clear you don't care about finding scum in this game. I'll definitely be studying this for my next scum game though, because people don't seem to care about your scummy posting. I’ve found scum and am voting them
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Apr 22, 2023 17:30
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When is the last post Taste made that contributed helpfully to this game or was trying to find scum? This is a challenge for all players
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Apr 22, 2023 17:30
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Taste may have posted a lot more last game as scum, but at least on day 1 when I got voted out, Taste was conspicuously refusing to discuss anything except his tunnel on me. his overly defensive response to my asking why he wasn't tunneling me before doesn't inspire confidence either. It was hardly a "leading question" like his reference to spousal abuse would imply. He is doing the same thing here, but also lurking more. There's plenty to talk about but Taste only chimes in when he can prod me while saying nothing new.
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Apr 22, 2023 17:36
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Didn’t read
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Apr 22, 2023 17:54
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That's rude and belittling in a way that's not fun for anybody, but luckily I wasn't talking to you.
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Apr 22, 2023 17:55
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t a s t e posted:Cool, one scum in each pile I bet This period of a handful of posts starting here in Taste's history are the few game posts he's made. They are quote thematically different from his posts about me, which write nothing at all about his thoughts justifying it, yet I an the only read driving his actions and votes?
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Apr 22, 2023 18:21
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Maybe killing another scum at night killed Taste's motivation.
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Apr 22, 2023 18:23
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Johnny Keats posted:That's rude and belittling in a way that's not fun for anybody, but luckily I wasn't talking to you. Projection
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Apr 22, 2023 18:47
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If you identify scum, don’t give them rope. Don’t indulge their flailing to save themselves, don’t even read it!
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Apr 22, 2023 18:52
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You haven't done anything except +1 of that I must "obviously" be scum. It's a gut read at best (from everyone voting me) propped up by references to my bad play and pretending that bad play matters now. Based on numbers, plenty of town have fallen for that line of thinking, but it's all make-believe. Nothing is leading to a conclusion of "Keats is scum". People are just saying a bunch of things about how wrong I was, then voting for me as if those things are connected. Don't he tricked by the rhetorical sleight-of-hand.
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Apr 22, 2023 19:16
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One must not have a good reason to be right. Sometimes they’re right for dumb or bad reasons
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t a s t e posted:One must not have a good reason to be right. Sometimes they’re right for dumb or bad reasons Yeah but feeling like you've identified scum to the poijt you are comfortable being openly rude to them in thread is pushing it
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Apr 22, 2023 19:23
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I've tunneled people so hard i stopped listening to them and told them their opinion is irrelevant. i stopped after that game because it wasn't in the spirit of fun
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Apr 22, 2023 19:27
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This is a weird situation because two scum are already dead so it's feasible you do think I'm the only scum left. Do you think it's likely the SK or town killing role hit scum on both nights? That seems like something you'd want to factor into an otherwise gut read on me
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Apr 22, 2023 19:30
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Respect the effort scumzo
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Apr 22, 2023 19:38
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t a s t e posted:Respect the effort scumzo I don't mean to be contrarian here, and I do appreciate this. But respect my effort anyway! I was ready to give up playing this game after Meen's flip. I had completet derailed the game for no benefit, something I swore not to do as town ever again. It made me feel like I haven't learned anything. All day I have been forcing myself to contribute so I don't feel responsible for ruining CPig's gme.
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Kids are in bed and asleep, can finally dedicate a couple of hours to Mafia, holy hell that's a lot of posts Keats! You didn't destroy the game just because we voted off town-Meen, jeez. We're all grown adults and made the decisions we thought best and you argued as you thought best. That's Mafia. Gonna do some more thread rereading and attempted night action reconstruction and see if I can't get some scum reads in.
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Okay so far we have D1—execution of Infinitum, TOWN, out hole/jailer N1—Opop, self-aligned 3P, BALL, “destroyed” N1—B-, SCUM, flipper/redirector (maybe more like a bus driver?), “expelled” D2—Meen, TOWN, out lane guard, modkilled N2—JosefStalinator, TOWN, flipper/redirector (etc), “destroyed” N2—wins32767, SCUM, flipper/redirector, “expelled” So all the scum have been “expelled” and a 3P and town were “destroyed” So far town has yet to pick off a scum. Unless some player with kill power is (a) working for town and (2) actually hitting who they aim at.
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I like how your list goes from (a) to (2). Anyway, why does the kill flavor matter? I think it's just "expelled" for scum parts (and falsely-executed ones) and destroyed for town parts
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I had to go back and check but you missed that Infinitum was also "expelled." It's too bad Iggy didn't let himsef get properly executed so we could see another example
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Johnny Keats posted:I like how your list goes from (a) to (2). Why does the kill flavor matter? I don't know--it could matter, maybe not.
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Votecount for Day 3  Johnny Keats (4): Maugrim, t a s t e (2): Punkreas, Johnny Keats, Toalpaz (1): Maugrim, Green Wing (1): Toalpaz, Johnny Keats, Sandwolf (0): Rhymes With Clue, Not Voting (2): Green Wing, SandwolfWith 10 alive, it's 6 votes to execute. The current deadline is April 22nd, 2023 at 11 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 4 hours, 22 minutes.
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Okay, so it's already past bedtime and I've only managed to go over the first 11 pages but there are two things that jump out at me. Firstly, I'm reminded of why I was so keen on Toalpaz as scum for much of the game so far. Some of it is based of the meta reads of more experienced players - examples: Green Wing posted:Toalpaz is also uncharacteristically quiet. She's usually a fairly active poster. She moved from me to JK as well, simply saying she was 'pro Keats death'. Ignatius M. Meen posted:As for who I'd like to see as an alt choice now, my inner vig said it'd shoot toal without hesitation today But I also noticed this post from early on day 1: Toalpaz posted:if i understand the game mechanics, there's almost 0 % chance of your ability being pro town, because as it is described, it makes scum kill more predictable. Toal claims to be a pro town role, but she later claims to be a bumper, which is a passive redirector with - as far as we know, as claimed by Punkreas - no active abilities. Sounds neutral to me. Why the discrepancy I wonder? So Toal remains one of my top scum picks. Secondly, I'm trying very hard to read Keats as town and it's perfectly possible tone-wise, nothing leaping out as excessively scummy... it's just... I CANNOT make logical sense of the Meen scan and resulting flip. This is the role PM as posted: Johnny Keats posted:I am the "coin slot". Of course I've never modded a game, but there has to be a resolution order for night actions, right? And the only way I can possibly read this is that Keats' Ability Goes First in order to make someone else's ability Go Second, before anything else. It could be redirected by a passive redirect, but it cannot possibly be redirected by any night action redirect because all of those are resolved - and therefore kick in - after this one. And we now know Meen did not have a passive redirect. So how the hell did Keats' target end up being wins or Stalinator, as it seems to have? The only thing I can think of is that Keats is scum, knew what wins' ability was via scumchat, and laid that ability on Meen in order to create suspicion whilst creating plausible deniability for later insofar as the action he claims does exist elsewhere in the game, so hey, I guess he misunderstood his ability and got redirected! This is why I've been insisting Keats is a standout scum pick for me. No other reason. Everything else I've seen seems towny to me. So I'm going to doubt myself here. Maybe Cpig made a mistake, or is pulling resolution order shenanigans behind the scenes. Maybe binus targeted Meen with his redirect, sending stuff targeting Meen over to wins instead, and that somehow got resolved before Keats fired off his ability. I'm giving you one more chance here, Keats. If you're town, please target me with your ability tonight. Get your rolecop result and I'll fullclaim first thing tomorrow to corroborate. ##vote Toalpaz
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Maugrim posted:But I also noticed this post from early on day 1: I'm actually laughing my butt off
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About the fun tion of my role, Maugrim: I don't have a clue anymore. I'm pretending that line about going "second except for you" isn't there anymore. Not dissing CPig by the way, I legitimately believe this to have been my mistake no matter what the truth of night resolution ends up being. Even if my role PM blatantly lied to me, I think that is a fair element of the game, so truly I will not be mad at Cpig for anything.
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Actually, I would be miffed if he changed the function of the role mid-game without telling me because I was bragging about it being OP. Which I don't think happened.
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Johnny Keats posted:Actually, I would be miffed if he changed the function of the role mid-game without telling me because I was bragging about it being OP. Which I don't think happened. For those who don't know, cpig would never do this to a game in progress. Imo. He is a mod with integrity, I believe.
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3 hours until deadline.
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Tunneled on Keats, has only voted Keats, Inf (town) and Meen (town) during the game, mostly non-contributory. ##vote t a s t e
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Would be alright with any of the three vote leaders going out, pretty sure that there's a scum or 3p among them. Can't stay awake until deadline though, it's 2am. Good luck.
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Votecount for Day 3 Johnny Keats (3): Maugrim, t a s t e (3): Punkreas, Johnny Keats, Toalpaz (2): Maugrim, Green Wing (1): Toalpaz, Johnny Keats, Sandwolf (0): Rhymes With Clue, Not Voting (1): Sandwolf With 10 alive, it's 6 votes to execute. The current deadline is April 22nd, 2023 at 11 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 1 hour, 54 minutes.
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Apr 23, 2023 01:05
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Maugrim, tell me a vague keyword related to your ability that I'd recognize in the PM description of it. That way, I'll know if I was redirected to something completely different without either of us sharing unnecessary details first.
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Apr 23, 2023 01:26
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Taste guarantee still stands You know I’m not scum, don’t waste a day to chide lazy town
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Is this trend of checked-out smug refusing-to-make-effort posting a recent thing because I swear I'm seeing it in every game recently. Or is SA mafia always like that and I've just been cheerfully ignorant of it.t a s t e posted:Taste guarantee still stands Like, what is this. What the hell is this. The fact that we're in a three way deadlock makes it pretty clear there's scum in there somewhere. Town on no-hope votes (IA on me ams honestly tosl is probably a no-hoper now) need to pull their fingers out.
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Apr 23, 2023 01:42
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People engage differently and relative standards are acceptable. Even in this post you betray that you know I’m town
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