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Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

t a s t e posted:

Well, it’s looking like either paranoid is indeed scum or there are two scum already on him.

Which one do you think it is?

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Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?
Also wouldn't the game just be over if there's 2 scum left and Maug doesn't kill scum?

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face

Yami Fenrir posted:

Also wouldn't the game just be over if there's 2 scum left and Maug doesn't kill scum?

If we flip town now it’s 3v2 and the night kill will make it 2v2 for the game over anyway. So I will take my best shot at making it 2v1 and hope like hell.

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

Maugrim posted:

If we flip town now it’s 3v2 and the night kill will make it 2v2 for the game over anyway. So I will take my best shot at making it 2v1 and hope like hell.

Yeah that's what I mean.

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Maugrim posted:

Yes, and then someone other than her will die. Then we’ll know she’s scum and vote her off tomorrow for the win.

Which is why I don’t think scum would make her request in the first place, but we start getting into wifom territory at that point.

“I don’t know why it didn’t work. Scum must have a redirect. It’s 3-player lylo, let’s think about this”

It’s not a-b-c for me but I get it

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Yami Fenrir posted:

Which one do you think it is?

My top two scum reads are on opposite sides

I’ve cleared you mostly off the back of Sandwolf not replacing out as scum but I do think a scum player with your role would make sense.

I don’t know, basically. My instinct screams gw as scum but that doesn’t make it right.

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Yami Fenrir posted:

Also wouldn't the game just be over if there's 2 scum left and Maug doesn't kill scum?

I meant if para flips scum. There’s a world where para tells gw to bus heavy to try and win tomorrow, obviously

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

t a s t e posted:

I meant if para flips scum. There’s a world where para tells gw to bus heavy to try and win tomorrow, obviously

Oh okay that makes a lot more sense.

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

When it comes down to it I’m in the position of having to vote against my instinct in a way that could lose the game if my instinct is correct and that sucks but this isn’t a solo game so I don’t want to be a huge rear end in a top hat and drag it out to be just so.

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Also, it occurs to me that of course scum wouldn’t quick hammer with a potential town vig and a million redirectors. This tells us nothing

Paranoid Dude
Jul 6, 2014
I'll go ahead and spoil it: I'm not scum. Maug, please be smart tonight. Just don't fire it.

We can do this, team.

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face

Paranoid Dude posted:

I'll go ahead and spoil it: I'm not scum. Maug, please be smart tonight. Just don't fire it.

We can do this, team.

Lol. If you’re town and I don’t fire it’s a guaranteed loss for town. This post makes zero sense from a townie

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

t a s t e posted:

Also, it occurs to me that of course scum wouldn’t quick hammer with a potential town vig and a million redirectors. This tells us nothing

So do you plan to hammer, or are you gonna wait?

I'm going to bed soon.

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Is this progression odd to anyone else

Punkreas posted:

From when Paranoid and Keats were having it out, I am 90% sure that Paranoid is town - Keats being town basically reinforces it as Paranoid would not have been so aggressive in arguing with Keats about him being scum if Paranoid were actually scum



Punkreas posted:

I didn't like taste's posting most of the game, still don't, still sus... but I've decided he's #2

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

t a s t e posted:

Is this progression odd to anyone else

I don't see what the first quote has to do with the other?

Green Wing
Oct 28, 2013

It's the only word they know, but it's such a big word for a tiny creature

Not liking this stalling, nor the opposition to the fairly solid vig-me plan from taste. Why wait?

Preview edit - potentially yes but given the game didn't end when taste and punk were on me, I think it's clear that one of those is scum. If paranoid flips scum, either taste or punk have to be the scumbuddy just from the numbers.

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

If I’ve done anything in this game yami it’s aggressively hunt Keats

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Well, I still think you’re scum, gw. That’s why I don’t think it’s a safe plan

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?
Oh like that.

I suppose, but I found punk saying GW is scum and then going straight to voting the person GW started a vote on weirder.

Green Wing
Oct 28, 2013

It's the only word they know, but it's such a big word for a tiny creature

t a s t e posted:

Well, I still think you’re scum, gw. That’s why I don’t think it’s a safe plan

Read maugrim's post

Maugrim posted:

Yes, and then someone other than her will die. Then we’ll know she’s scum and vote her off tomorrow for the win.

Which is why I don’t think scum would make her request in the first place, but we start getting into wifom territory at that point.

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Green Wing posted:

Read maugrim's post

I’ve replied to it. I don’t think it’s that simple.

Green Wing
Oct 28, 2013

It's the only word they know, but it's such a big word for a tiny creature

I do worry you're just trying to leave open the possibility of arguing that I was bussing today, if paranoid flips scum, and that's why you oppose that. I think that might be a hail Mary.

But taste vs punk, if all goes as expected, can be litigated tomorrow. Paranoid us the vote today, please hammer if you're going to. I'm going to bed.

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

I’be already said that I think you’re bussing today and have been for a while. You’re my strongest scumread but I’m not going to hold the game hostage. GGs to scum if para isn’t one.

##vote paranoid

votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop
:redhammer: You spent all that time arguing and Paranoid Dude is who you chose to hammer? Wow.

Votecount for Day 5

Paranoid Dude (4): Green Wing, Yami Fenrir, Maugrim, t a s t e
Green Wing (2): t a s t e, Punkreas, t a s t e, Paranoid Dude
t a s t e (0): Green Wing, Green Wing
Execute No One! (0): t a s t e, Green Wing, Maugrim, t a s t e, Green Wing, Maugrim

Not Voting (0):

With 6 alive, it's 4 votes to execute. The current deadline is April 27th, 2023 at 9 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 1 day, 4 hours.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

A Winner is you!
another bumper was indeed bumped

paranoid dude - bumper - town aligned was expelled on day 5!

You are a Bumper

Bumper - The first action targeting you at night will be randomly redirected to another living player, this ability is passive.

You are town aligned and win when town eliminates all threats.



It is night 5.

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

A Winner is you!
in the night, the cabinet fell off of the machine and broke into pieces!

Green Wing - Cabinet - Town aligned was destroyed and expelled on night 5!

You are the Cabinet

Cabinet - You may choose to randomly redirect every action targeting you at night to another player. You may only use this ability Twice during the game.

You are town aligned and win when town eliminates all threats.



It is now day 6

votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop
Votecount for Day 6



Not Voting (4): Maugrim, Punkreas, t a s t e, Yami Fenrir

With 4 alive, it's 3 votes to execute. There is currently no deadline set.

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Lol

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

gently caress man I dunno

Clearly not two scum unless maugrim is secret sk

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

That would be funny because then I’d be alone as town

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

lol at destroyed AND expelled too

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face
Lmao

Sorry GW. My reasoning was if scum did have a juggernaut it could only be you, and there was evidence for both taste and punk truly being bumpers so shooting them would have been a lottery.

Scum targeted me, to nobody’s surprise, but I had my one-shot bumper (thanks Yami!) and I guess it deflected to GW too. Lucky lucky.

Looks like only one scum remaining after all. Let’s make sure we nail this one huh?

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Maugrim posted:

Lmao

Sorry GW. My reasoning was if scum did have a juggernaut it could only be you, and there was evidence for both taste and punk truly being bumpers so shooting them would have been a lottery.

Scum targeted me, to nobody’s surprise, but I had my one-shot bumper (thanks Yami!) and I guess it deflected to GW too. Lucky lucky.

Looks like only one scum remaining after all. Let’s make sure we nail this one huh?

Are you an Sk op

I’d rather you get an SK win than see scum win because I’m a big hater

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Also, I really have no idea now. Maybe a NL makes sense today because I have no reads. Probably better off than my scum read on gw

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face
Interesting meta point. Punkreas has not been posting. I assumed they were offline/busy/asleep. And yet the night went by VERY quickly.

Has cpig been careless? If a player was not around to call the NK during the entire night then they cannot be scum.

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Idea

Vote punkreas. If p is town, it’s just me maugs and yami

Maugs picks the winner with his vig?

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face
I’m not a SK, I’m just bad at Mafia. Apart from that wins shot, I felt proper smug about that one.

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

I think maugs isn’t scum. Maybe sk, but that’s not scum, so whatever.

For me, last scum has to be punk or yam

In a world where it’s those two, who do you think it is, maugs

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face

t a s t e posted:

Idea

Vote punkreas. If p is town, it’s just me maugs and yami

Maugs picks the winner with his vig?

Won’t work, either this way or the other way around, because you and punk are both bumpers. Yami would always be the one to die in this situation.

In fact if Yami is the scum it makes no sense to vote for them because they will die to my vig overnight and town wins.

So we have to vote you or Punk today.

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Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face
Going to bed, looking forward to the upcoming discussion…

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