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My role PM says in no uncertain terms that my ability activates first before any other abilities at night. That is now I know. Anyway, Infinitum is scummy but I'm still catching up
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That also presumably means, fyi, my ability will still work in the night if I am [later] killed that same night.
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Johnny Keats posted:I hear you in terms of what you are saying, but I don't like this response one bit. Having played with you before though, I think it is just how you play. Just so you are aware though, I get pinged when you talk about strategy for voting that entirely disregards the fact that we are trying to vote out scum. I’ll defend GW here because hers is pretty much my reasoning too, there just isn’t enough info day 1 to make it better than a coin flip whether the kill is town or scum, but the idea is to generate enough interaction during the day that people can examine the known town/scum result and make further reads based on it. If you don’t have a day 1 kill then day 2 is just relitigating day 1 but with the scum one death closer to victory.
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Apr 15, 2023 16:00
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##vote johnny Keats I think this is a fine execution. I am pro Keats death.
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Apr 15, 2023 16:23
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I’m not seeing it
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I’m not a fan of Keats vote either but I don’t (yet) have a concrete alternative to propose
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I’m against killing Keats at this juncture. I feel like folks are taking advantage of his kinda confusing diction around his claim.
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Apr 15, 2023 17:51
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I’d do Stalinator or Inf tho, yeah.
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Apr 15, 2023 17:51
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Johnny Keats posted:My role PM says in no uncertain terms that my ability activates first before any other abilities at night. That is HOW I know. Anyway, Infinitum is scummy but I'm still catching up Late mafia edit
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Apr 15, 2023 18:11
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Votefinder with bar graphs now? That's pretty sexy. Anyway, how is Infinitum scummy? They're engaged, their logic is making sense, and they aren't doing anything that is especially divergently scummy right now. In fact, the best thing for scum to do is to NOT make arguments and let town flounder around and make arguments. First I'm scummy, now infinitum is scummy? I would posit that people who aren't engaged in the thread right now are the most scummy of all, but I do think that at least one flip to see what happens in the night would really kick things off the most. Regardless, of all people who are actively posting, I think Keats and Binus are the most scum-leaning in my purview, but it's obviously far too early to go off of much more than the vibes.
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Apr 15, 2023 18:38
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Sandwolf posted:I’d do Stalinator or Inf tho, yeah. Why does keats get a pass and these two don't? How about wins?
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Apr 15, 2023 18:42
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I would vote wins just because of all the numbers at the end of that uisername, except that I have a policy of not policy-voting.
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Apr 15, 2023 18:43
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But I have another reason to vote wins, he called a post of keats's "super-scummy." It was scummy for ssure but super, I don't think so.
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Votecount for Day 1  Johnny Keats (6): wins32767, t a s t e, Paranoid Dude, Punkreas, Infinitum, Toalpaz JosefStalinator (2): b-minus1, Infinitum, Green Wing, Ignatius M. Meen (1): wins32767, Johnny Keats, Rhymes With Clue (1): Idle Amalgam Infinitum (1): Johnny Keats Green Wing (1): Infinitum, b-minus1 (0): Infinitum, t a s t e (0): wins32767, Paranoid Dude (0): Johnny Keats, Opopanax (0): t a s t e, wins32767 (0): Rhymes With Clue, Not Voting (4): Ignatius M. Meen, JosefStalinator, Rhymes With Clue, SandwolfWith 16 alive, it's 9 votes to execute. The current deadline is April 16th, 2023 at 6 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 1 day, 3 hours.
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hmmm Keats being the only elimination with a solid lead is odd if he's scum unless his scumbuds have decided he's unsalvageable (which would be impressive considering that mostly only tends to happen to people who get caught from night bingo or slipped hard). On the other hand I don't have a single stronger standout read than him, most everybody else is feeling pretty neutral in terms of present content. That said, I'm thinking about the people who are blending with the background a bit too well considering the potential that the reason we have no heavy pushback on this is because no scum's name has been seriously thrown around yet. Background reads are really fuckin tricky to catch and explain to people who haven't seen them in action, but I could see it being toal, Josef, and/or taste. I'm good with giving Josef more pressure under the circumstances and being a backup +1 vote on Keats if needed. ##vote Josef
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Johnny Keats posted:I hear you in terms of what you are saying, but I don't like this response one bit. Having played with you before though, I think it is just how you play. Just so you are aware though, I get pinged when you talk about strategy for voting that entirely disregards the fact that we are trying to vote out scum. Days without voted flips are days where scum entirely controls what information is released. There is a reason people vote against their preferences to avoid a no-execution. Obviously I am aiming to vote out scum - this is a very uncharitable reading.
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Apr 15, 2023 19:34
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Long rear end D1.
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Green Wing posted:Days without voted flips are days where scum entirely controls what information is released. There is a reason people vote against their preferences to avoid a no-execution. Obviously I am aiming to vote out scum - this is a very uncharitable reading. This is good logic, I'm still pretty new and trying to figure out the strategies and whatnot. I think I'm falling into the trap of waiting for slam dunk arguments or way more information than can be provided on day 1 before I vote for people. ##vote Johnny Keats Ignatius M. Meen posted:hmmm Genuine question - when people pressure is it just that they want me to post more or do they want me to claim?
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Apr 15, 2023 20:08
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I can't speak for others but my main desire from you is some reads. Who is scum, who is town.
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Apr 15, 2023 20:11
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Good vibes off punkreas
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My gut is a bit concerned about Infinitum cheekily voting for me to "get another post" then not unvoting, could be a sort of subtle scum tactic to take advantage of my quietness, like Johnny Keats said
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Maugrim posted:I'd personally like this day to last as lo Cats are good and if I'm being forced to post with low information/vibes based, then i gotta think the cat is telling us maugrim is town
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Apr 15, 2023 20:21
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Hum. Didn't realise that Josef was new, and feel a bit uneasy about voting for a new player on the basis of lack of content - and that's all the 'case' is, really. I don't know about Keats. Like somebody said above, the votes came real easy. I thought Keats was scum in Camelot as well. I think, much as he gets scumreads from my posting, I get scumreads from his. t a s t e, however, has posted a few times since this mammoth day started, eventually voting for Keats, and with very little content or reads. t a s t e posted:Good vibes off punkreas This townread - that is fairly uncontroversial, others have said this, including me - screams 'I am increasing my postcount for the day' Toalpaz is also uncharacteristically quiet. She's usually a fairly active poster. She moved from me to JK as well, simply saying she was 'pro Keats death'. Don't like either of them. I think at least one of them are scum, getting the strongest read from taste, who has been around long enough to know how to content lurk and I think is doing it. [b]##vote taste
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I've read over the thread again and reassessed, first off Iggy is now null for me after their explanations so ##unvote Based mainly on gut feel: Tentative scum reads: Infinitum, Paranoid Dude - inf has more votes right now (1!) so ##vote Infinitum, sorry dad Strong town reads: Green Wing, Punkreas Special mention: Idle Amalgam, brain says "lean town" but gut isn't convinced and I dunno why
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I can also see the argument for taste being scum. I'm not comfortable piling up on either Keats or Stalinator, of course I'll hammer whoever if it comes down to the wire but I really think Keats especially is gonna flip town
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Yeah idk about Keats or josef. Infs posts from esrlier today were pinging me as scum trying to be helpful townie
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I'm at work right now and I shouldn't be texting, but I have been thinking about this game. First thought: Why has it been presumed, in relation to my "rolefishing" post being scummy, that scum would be unconcerned with redirection themselves? The common understanding of thread appears to be that scum would want to kill players *without* redirection abilities. But that is far from self-evident to me. I'd like to find/quote who made this assumption the most, but I'm too busy for that.
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Opopanax posted:D1s suck and long D1s are even worse let's just do this thing Ok. Who do you think is scum? Just me? If you want to just do this thing, who should be the quickflip?
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Rhymes With Clue posted:Why does keats get a pass and these two don't? Sure I’d do wins, basically a lurker elimination. I feel bad killing keats because I just killed him in another game. I also think the votes have come upon him p quickly and I don’t particularly think he’s scummy? I guess if it’s Keats or someone I’m more townreading at EoD I’d vote to prevent NL.
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2nd, warning: this is a point in my defense (ie it holds barely any weight coming from me), but it is also important in looking at responses to my "rolefishing". Look at what I actually said in that post that a number of people, notably Infi and Taste (and wins? Is he in this game?), jumped on... It was not just roles I was talking about. I was asking about flavor. And I specifically asked for a scenario I find unlikely. It was clear from context that the post was about confirming a theory about flavor more than anything. So why has it become a matter of rolefishing? I want to look back on who made it that and who ran with it without paying attention to the context.
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Maugrim posted:Okay I was already sus on Iggy but this post has tipped me over, why would you admit to being a non-redirector and make yourself a target for NK I guess it makes sense that a non-redirector would be a good target for a NK... but this feels forced.
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Anyway I'll round out the full-claim of my role since I ended up having to say a lot about it anyway. And maybe we can coordinate, who knows. Basically my role affects the order of action resolutions in the night when I successfully use it. First, it is implied that my role activates at position 0. Second, the player I target will have their ability activate as position 1. This is stated to be before any other actions "except this one". It is also stated that this protects my target from redirects OR blocks.
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b-minus1 posted:Ngl I’ve been scrolling through posts for a while and nothing is really jumping out at me as obvious scum. Taste has basically no real posts and could be lurking scum but is prolly a bad vote for today Agreed
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Opopanax posted:Maugrim claims that this is their first game, and yet they’re posting is perfect. Curious I felt like I've played with them before, but maybe that was some other pbp or trad game BS. 
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Toalpaz posted:##vote johnny Keats  ##vote toal
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Johnny Keats posted:Anyway I'll round out the full-claim of my role since I ended up having to say a lot about it anyway. And maybe we can coordinate, who knows. what part of the machine are you
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Idle Amalgam posted:I felt like I've played with them before, but maybe that was some other pbp or trad game BS. It was Thunderdome probably, I won a week like years ago and I think you were active then
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Idle Amalgam posted:what part of the machine are you Coin slot
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Maugrim posted:It was Thunderdome probably, I won a week like years ago and I think you were active then ahhhhh, cool cool
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Green Wing posted:Hum. Ah I caught your scum bud eh
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