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Johnny Keats
Jan 24, 2023

by Fluffdaddy

Sandwolf posted:

Does this sound like town binus to anyone?

Apparently it does to Salad!

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wologar
Feb 11, 2014

Wi s, besides Lamp, who scum?

Johnny Keats
Jan 24, 2023

by Fluffdaddy
##vote Salad

wologar
Feb 11, 2014

Still pinged by taste, btw. Leaning way too hard on doing nothin .

wins32767
Mar 16, 2007

wologar posted:

Wi s, besides Lamp, who scum?

wins32767 posted:

Still feeling Lamp. Also would vote bminus and Salad.




wins32767 posted:

I'm still good with salad, bminus, and Lamp, nothing today has made me feel like any of them are more town than my D1 reads. Will switch to bminus before deadline if that's where things are but I feel worst about lamp.

wologar
Feb 11, 2014


:thanks:

saladscooper
Jan 25, 2019

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

Johnny Keats posted:

##vote Salad

A vote for me is a vote for a misexecution

CapitalistPig
Nov 3, 2005

A Winner is you!

Mr. Humalong posted:

while I’m on a plane.

Hal cosplay

Johnny Keats
Jan 24, 2023

by Fluffdaddy

saladscooper posted:

A vote for me is a vote for a misexecution

That's all you have to say about it?

Are you being sarcastic when you are saying Cube is scummy for making a spreadsheet? That seems terribly ironic when you also posted one

Johnny Keats
Jan 24, 2023

by Fluffdaddy
Also, what made you think Binus was townie before, when everybody was saying his posting was scummy. Surely theres a reason other than "I am smarter than everyone else"

Johnny Keats
Jan 24, 2023

by Fluffdaddy
Genuine question: Did you forget you had posted your own spreadsheet when shading Cube for his?

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

I fell asleep again

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

lol at somebody saying I've done nothing pro town all game with these lurkers and I literally have been entirely honest with my powers and night actions since the get go, I don't think we share the same values on what is pro town because I've been one of the most common posters with at least, regardless of what you think of it, a pretty open lay out of what I think we should do and what scummy looks like to me. A bit frustrated that scum has managed to muddy the waters and act like I've claimed survivor role when I've literally had three posts saying I'm not AND have never claimed the role. Maybe one helpful metric is to look at who is adding to confusion and meaningless fillerbusting and who is being transparent and open? If I die and flip town, I implore yall to see who has been 💯 . Also I have had scum reads and posted about them and voted 🗳 peeps on suspicions?

But anyway, who knew destiny's child might be my downfall 😄

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
Good morning. Wtf is the people that won't shut up about fire and ice? TMI?

saladscooper
Jan 25, 2019

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

Johnny Keats posted:

Genuine question: Did you forget you had posted your own spreadsheet when shading Cube for his?

I think Cube is scummy cause of his noncommittal posting. I said I could see his spreadsheet being part of a scumgame. If I didn't think his posting was already scummy I wouldn't have shaded him for the spreadsheet. My decision to make a spreadsheet has nothing to do with that.

saladscooper
Jan 25, 2019

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

Tired Moritz posted:

Good morning. Wtf is the people that won't shut up about fire and ice? TMI?

hm

Johnny Keats
Jan 24, 2023

by Fluffdaddy
##vote Wins

Paranoid Dude
Jul 6, 2014

CapitalistPig posted:

Look at all these words. This is town binus

Objectively good rationale. Binus is consistently Binus-y.

Cube's logic is IMO lacking but I'm not sure they're scum.

I'll need to do a reread but I'm putting my vote on ##vote Wins in the meantime.

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

Everything at once
the evil step-son

This av has been socialized, viva la Revolución

Sandwolf posted:

I’m begging anyone to give me a case on wins

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
I already did

Mr. Humalong
May 7, 2007

I’m not really seeing wins here.

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

Everything at once
the evil step-son

This av has been socialized, viva la Revolución

wologar posted:

Still pinged by taste, btw. Leaning way too hard on doing nothin .

That's usually town taste, spelling bee taste where he was scum is where you usually see more effort (IMO)

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

saladscooper posted:

I think Cube is scummy cause of his noncommittal posting. I said I could see his spreadsheet being part of a scumgame. If I didn't think his posting was already scummy I wouldn't have shaded him for the spreadsheet. My decision to make a spreadsheet has nothing to do with that.

My noncommittal posting? Are you talking about my D1 gimmick (because I famously hate D1's) or my D2 "got roleblocked so I don't have much to go on?"

I've voted for 3 different people today - Lamp is a carryover from D1 momentum and weirdposting, Taste is due to lurkiness trying to at least prod into doing something (unsuccessfully), and binus because I think the case on wins is non-existent, the push seems wild to me, and I have zero info about binus having any sort of helpful-to-town role.

Saladscooper has voted for 5 different people today (two more than me).

Five different people have voted for no one today.

Wins, your current vote, has "committed" to pushing Lamp (& binus/you) since D1.

So when you say the word "noncommital," what do you actually mean? Because I'll call your logic here "inconsistent."

wins32767
Mar 16, 2007

Interesting that the double vote is still on bminus1. I guess the mod has to move those? Not sure how to read it at the moment.

Anyway, I don't think just because he posted a big long wall means he's town. It just means he's giving a poo poo about not getting voted out.

Paranoid Dude
Jul 6, 2014
I've seen scum Binus, they don't put in effort when they're scum (a solid tactic with this crowd).

Sorry I will not be very active this weekend, I have some stuff I'm doing. Don't expect too much from me tomorrow either.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Paranoid Dude posted:

I've seen scum Binus, they don't put in effort when they're scum (a solid tactic with this crowd).

Sorry I will not be very active this weekend, I have some stuff I'm doing. Don't expect too much from me tomorrow either.

What's a monitor and is Clo lying?

Paranoid Dude
Jul 6, 2014

CubicalSucrose posted:

What's a monitor and is Clo lying?

It's a cop (see who visits somebody/ who they visit in a night) and Clo isn't lying, I assume what I have acquired a one shot of is their ability.

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

Everything at once
the evil step-son

This av has been socialized, viva la Revolución

b-minus1 posted:

I already did

b-minus1 posted:

This is a classic end of day scum post. Pretending that they’re unsure about voting someone who they know will flip town

Your case on wins being scum is hammering Josef when Cubical basically threatened to move his vote to someone else because of his posting gimmick. I wasn't thrilled with it either but it'd already been two days. You didn't even vote Josef and then did your usual "I knew they were town" nonsense like you always do.

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

Everything at once
the evil step-son

This av has been socialized, viva la Revolución


Where are you Keats? Lurking is unlike you

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
So Maerlyn is pro-wins is town?

Cloacamazing!
Apr 18, 2018

Too cute to be evil

wins32767 posted:

Interesting that the double vote is still on bminus1. I guess the mod has to move those? Not sure how to read it at the moment.

Anyway, I don't think just because he posted a big long wall means he's town. It just means he's giving a poo poo about not getting voted out.

Has anybody claimed the doublevote? Mod definitely has to move those, it's a manual vote from the looks of it. Kind of strange since doublevotes are usually public, this looks more like a Hated stack. Since it only shows up during the day, and only on a train that's catching steam, it's clearly an anonymous doublevote.

Illu is on EU time, so if anybody moved it during the night, he wouldn't have seen it yet. Sometimes mods also don't allow for the doublevote to be moved, so there's that option as well.

Cloacamazing!
Apr 18, 2018

Too cute to be evil
I'd say the bad looking part about wins vote is this exchange:

wins32767 posted:

Do you have a claim that you want to make or should I hammer?

And a minute later

wins32767 posted:

Welp, I don't want to have this day go on forever.
##vote Josef

Josef was around and could have answered, but Cube was about to move his vote off. So that looks a bit like he wanted Josef gone. Or the day to end. No deadline kind of sucks and I'm not sure why Illu thought this was a good idea. Couple more days and I'd have hammered anybody, including myself, to end this. And there were enough people around that said they would hammer even if Cube had moved his vote. So all in all that's not too damning. I find the Lamp tunneling weirder, wins seems really fixated on the idea that Lamp is doing an act.

wins32767 posted:

Lamp is too scummy to be scum! Again! Look folks, Lamp has been genuinely scummy repeatedly and people are just handwaving it away. I'm with sand, I feel like I'm going insane in this game.

Lamp is pretty unlikely to be eliminated today, and while I still think that scum would want him gone due to his claim, tunneling him is a lost case at least for today. We know from Cube that at the very least, Lamp was telling the truth about planning to roleblock Cube last night, so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt there. If he was scum, claiming PGO so nobody would cop/track him would have been a pretty good move if he was planning to perform the nightkill, since nobody was going to track or cop him, but unless someone different blocked Cube and didn't claim it, that's not what happened. Lamp is currently more likely to be town in my opinion, wins is neutral leaning town.

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

Everything at once
the evil step-son

This av has been socialized, viva la Revolución

Tired Moritz posted:

So Maerlyn is pro-wins is town?

No if someone actually has a good case, I would consider it but I think Lamp has been scummier, and binus scummier than Lamp. Saying I'm "wins is town" makes it sound like you know something I don't.

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

Everything at once
the evil step-son

This av has been socialized, viva la Revolución

Clo you should be pretty familiar with scum binus, what do you think? Am I totally off base?

Cloacamazing!
Apr 18, 2018

Too cute to be evil

Tired Moritz posted:

Good morning. Wtf is the people that won't shut up about fire and ice? TMI?

This one confuses me as well. There's only been one nightkill, but I would generally assume there's some additional killing role in a game this size. Illu is a first time mod too, and Fire and Ice is really difficult to balance. (Yes, Keats wanted Disney Mafia to be Fire and Ice initially. Yes, Keats is an insane genius. He figured nobody would suspect a first time mod to do a F&I game. The idea was abandoned because I couldn't figure out how to properly balance this.)

I think Sand brought it up first?

Sandwolf posted:

I’m getting the exact feeling in this game that I get in games that later turn out to be fire&ice. Too many of you are playing like flagrant scum, and worse than that, no one seems to be calling out actually scummy behavior but rather calling out behavior they think they can push eliminations on.

Keats/MQ is getting heat for, what? For trying to put pieces together to solve a game? Salad is voting me for??? What?

Somethings off in this game and it’s annoying as poo poo. Lamp is clearly thumbing his nose to the thread after a big D1 claim, where are his reads?

binus commented on it, but it's mostly Sand until wol just takes it as a given for his case on me:

wologar posted:

Scum cop? Perfectly viable for Fire and Ice. To be fair, if you got that ParaDude was a copycat, it'd be odd to give him a cop action s scum, but I wouldn't put it pas- 💥

And Maerlyn follows suit.

Maerlyn posted:

Maerogar has a nice ring to it!

I just think wol sounds like town, that can change on a dime as he well knows but not getting scum vibes at all from him currently.

Ok I think I'm feeling scum Clo but I also see arguments about fire and ice because I definitely think binus is scum but I can't say they are on the same team.

Seriously, you two have fused into a single entity named Margaret. Congratulations?

I've tried to ignore this since it might be an OMGUS, but seriously feeling a wol vote. Then after he flips scum, Maerlyn. Anybody with me here? ##vote wologar

Cloacamazing!
Apr 18, 2018

Too cute to be evil

Maerlyn posted:

Clo you should be pretty familiar with scum binus, what do you think? Am I totally off base?

Take this one with a grain of salt since I was completely wrong about binus during Touhou and everybody else soulread him as scum D1, but he feels town to me. Especially that bait post earlier, because I've seen him do this exact thing as town in Magicians manor when I was haunting him.

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

Everything at once
the evil step-son

This av has been socialized, viva la Revolución

Cloacamazing! posted:

This one confuses me as well. There's only been one nightkill, but I would generally assume there's some additional killing role in a game this size. Illu is a first time mod too, and Fire and Ice is really difficult to balance. (Yes, Keats wanted Disney Mafia to be Fire and Ice initially. Yes, Keats is an insane genius. He figured nobody would suspect a first time mod to do a F&I game. The idea was abandoned because I couldn't figure out how to properly balance this.)

I think Sand brought it up first?

binus commented on it, but it's mostly Sand until wol just takes it as a given for his case on me:

And Maerlyn follows suit.

Seriously, you two have fused into a single entity named Margaret. Congratulations?

I've tried to ignore this since it might be an OMGUS, but seriously feeling a wol vote. Then after he flips scum, Maerlyn. Anybody with me here? ##vote wologar

I'm not really feeling F&I anymore with the lack of another kill, I don't think the numbers support it (it's iffy), but also I'm not concerned if there are two scum teams, they just all need to go (via town or other scum doesn't matter to me). I do feel like people are just throwing out accusations based on no case whatsoever and it's driving me nuts. Maybe it's just a bad weekend but people are absent and it's making this day drag so then when someone emerges after not having posted for awhile, just to vote and then bail again, it's irritating.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Tried to decipher Wol's missing letters. There was (what might have a been) a maf edit with an S and a K which confused me a bit. This post which quotes one of the earlier posts.

wologar posted:

Yo hi pic, smh.

And then the ??? should probably be an S but there was like a little explosion symbol or something.

wologar posted:

Scum cop? Perfectly viable for Fire and Ice. To be fair, if you got that ParaDude was a copycat, it'd be odd to give him a cop action s scum, but I wouldn't put it pas- 💥
Anyway, he should confirm this.

It was about time, too! Hail the Maerogar/Wololyn duo!


"E Y Y. W A S. (k?) I T. A. M A T T E R. O F. T A (???) T E. O R. J O K I N G."

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)

Maerlyn posted:

No if someone actually has a good case, I would consider it but I think Lamp has been scummier, and binus scummier than Lamp. Saying I'm "wins is town" makes it sound like you know something I don't.

Nah, I think wins is town.

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Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
Huh, so what time zone is everyone in??

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