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Johnny Keats posted:By offering Voodoofly, Zoya has revealed the exact same information that she is asking me to reveal. Voodoofly is not on my team. Excellent. Naive, you're up! DELEGATE ROULETTE: Paranoid suggests Voodoofly Insane agrees Naive: [agrees/disagrees?] Normal? Paranoid? Insane? Naive? Normal?
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What if, instead, it goes: paranoid suggests you insane agrees naive agrees normal vetoes, suggests someone from the paranoid clan (outing you as normal) paranoid vetoes, suggests someone from the normal clan (outing someone as paranoid) insane agrees naive agrees normal vetoes, suggests someone from the naive clan (outing someone as normal) paranoid agrees, insane agrees naive vetoes, suggests someone from the normal clan (outing someone as naive) normal vetoes, suggests someone from the insane clan (outing someone as normal) paranoid agrees, insane vetoes, suggests the solo (outing someone as insane) And so on? Then my entire team would be outed and only one of each of the others. An extreme example, obviously. But it puts my team at a significant disadvantage.
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Jul 15, 2023 19:08
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Er, ignore the slight issue in the sequence there, copy/paste is hosed. But you get my meaning I hope.
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Do you not understand the difference between the next player put up is random versus the next player put up is guaranteed not to be x alignment? Look if we are voting the solo day 1 then I see three options: 1 we alll out everyone on our teams and everyone is equally exposed, solo is eliminated 2 we do a true random selection where every team has an equal chance to out none, some or all of their team before we find solo. It’s not technically equal as I’d be willing to go first here thereby ensuring they my team is possibly the only team that puts any info 3 your semi random where based on your order you have automatically put the first team as having the best chance of outing the least info and the last team to select as having the worst chance of outing the most info So fine if we do your way then paranoid should act last, not first. You are putting forth an imbalanced plan and putting yourself in the seat with the best odds, which seems self dealing
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NeverHelm posted:What if, instead, it goes: I get what you mean, and yeah that's possible, but any strategy along these lines is going to have that flaw. The "fair" way of doing it is to all reveal our entire teamlist, but that's dangerous too, since theoretically we could land on the solo on our 2nd guess if we're lucky. Voodoofly posted:Do you not understand the difference between the next player put up is random versus the next player put up is guaranteed not to be x alignment? Fine. Once they respond in discord agreeing, I will reveal 1 member of the paranoid council as a show of good faith. I put myself in the first slot because otherwise no one would have started the process, since I am the one trying the hardest to herd 16 cats into catching the solo rat here
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Regardless, I blaze ahead: DELEGATE ROULETTE: Paranoid suggests Voodoofly Insane agrees Naive: [agrees/disagrees?] Normal? Paranoid? Insane? Naive? Normal? saladscooper, you're up!
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Again let’s just go random. It’s faster as it only takes one response to move on (the vouching delegate or an already outed player) rather than four for each person on the block But whatever at this point I don’t really care
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Jul 15, 2023 19:21
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Voodoofly posted:Again let’s just go random. It’s faster as it only takes one response to move on (the vouching delegate or an already outed player) rather than four for each person on the block I still genuinely don't understand the alternative scenario you're proposing or how it's any different! we could amend the roulette to be: paranoid suggests voodoo insane agrees naive agrees normal vetoes, INSANE suggests [someone from paranoid] paranoid vetoes, NAIVE suggests [someone from naive] insane agrees naive vetoes, NORMAL suggests [someone blah blah you get it] ...but this would require a lot more posts and everyone to be online and actively engaged at the same time
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Jul 15, 2023 19:26
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Zoya posted:I still genuinely don't understand the alternative scenario you're proposing or how it's any different! ...i hosed that hypothetical up by having naive suggest a naive member but the idea is that the next suggested vote would always be in order rather than just when someone vetoes i actually think this might be less fair, though, as at least in the original scenario you get to choose a potential vote every time you have to out a team member, whereas this alternate version could be even worse RNG possibly
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Jul 15, 2023 19:27
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Whatever I’m normal. Never can vouch no need to wait for salad before never speaks up I nominate Fool of Sound as they are first in the player list. Anyone vouching for fool?
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Excellent! Paranoid agrees. DELEGATE ROULETTE: Paranoid suggests Voodoofly Insane agrees Naive agrees by default Normal VETOES, suggests fool of sound Paranoid agrees Insane [agrees/disagrees?] Naive? Normal? Keats, you're up!
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Jul 15, 2023 19:38
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Fine, whatever. I guess we're doing this. I can indeed vouch for Voodoo as Normal.
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Jul 15, 2023 19:39
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I nominate Plastic
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Johnny Keats posted:I nominate Plastic quote:DELEGATE ROULETTE: quote:
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the solo right now, watching my gambit play out:
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This plan is loving stupid, not because it’s a bad idea whole cloth but because it turns the game into not social deduction in a way that is not fun for me personally. I veto Hal and suggest Josef
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saladscooper posted:This plan is loving stupid, not because it’s a bad idea whole cloth but because it turns the game into not social deduction in a way that is not fun for me personally. You didn’t play the last Cube game then, did you? Seriously if you joined this game expecting much classic mafia idk what to tell you.
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saladscooper posted:This plan is loving stupid, not because it’s a bad idea whole cloth but because it turns the game into not social deduction in a way that is not fun for me personally.  I signed up for Mafia not... whatever the gently caress this is
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Sandwolf posted:You didn’t play the last Cube game then, did you? I mean it doesn't need to be classic mafia This isn't mafia at all anymore
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Sandwolf posted:You didn’t play the last Cube game then, did you? You’re right I didn’t pay attention to that game and now I understand I understand all too well
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Jul 15, 2023 19:56
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Honestly I'm still not sure if Keats was actually vetoing Fool or not and I think this whole thing has gone wayyy out of control at this point.
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Jul 15, 2023 19:57
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saladscooper posted:This plan is loving stupid, not because it’s a bad idea whole cloth but because it turns the game into not social deduction in a way that is not fun for me personally. quote:DELEGATE ROULETTE: quote:
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Like, we all know this game is 4 teams of 4 and then a solo. If we hadn’t been able to deduce that it’s one thing, but seriously, can anyone make a case on someone as being “scum” in this game? That’s what I’m saying. This game is about killing the solo because otherwise eliminations become politicking situations.
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Jul 15, 2023 19:57
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Yami Fenrir posted:
Did you read the OP, op?
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The OP posted:This is the second game I’ve moderated, there’s a reasonable chance it just fails spectacularly, and thus it might be a bad idea for new players to join this one. But I’m not your supervisor!
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NeverHelm posted:Honestly I'm still not sure if Keats was actually vetoing Fool or not and I think this whole thing has gone wayyy out of control at this point. What do you suggest in the alternate?
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CubicalSucrose posted:
It says Mafia right here. So I came expecting social deduction. I understand why people are doing some dumb breaking strat but it isn't fun. And from I can gather after the solo is out it's basically a popularity contest.
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Yami Fenrir posted:I mean it doesn't need to be classic mafia we are trying to find the informed minority, who is one person this game
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I expected it to fail because of the super involved sanity mechanics. Not because it isn't goddamn mafia.
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Sandwolf posted:What do you suggest in the alternate?
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The main gimmick of this game clearly appears to not be sanity
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if the game isn’t over after the solo is out there’s no more game to play and Cube would be better off ending it, if it does not already end there
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Sandwolf posted:we are trying to find the informed minority, who is one person this game ##vote Sandwolf
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Yami Fenrir posted:##vote Sandwolf lol okay, you know I have a team who will support that I’m not the solo but go off
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I have a pretty strong feeling the game probably won't end immediately once the solo's out, just based on what my team's wincon is.
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NeverHelm posted:I have a pretty strong feeling the game probably won't end immediately once the solo's out, just based on what my team's wincon is.
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NeverHelm posted:I have a pretty strong feeling the game probably won't end immediately once the solo's out, just based on what my team's wincon is. If we kill the solo and the game isn’t over Cube can modkill me because I’m not playing in thread survivor for however many days.
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NeverHelm posted:I have a pretty strong feeling the game probably won't end immediately once the solo's out, just based on what my team's wincon is. Yes and this is why I think Sandwolf is the solo.
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Neverhelm and Keats, you're up for the outstanding suggestion on JosefStalinator just keeping the roulette and info list current and easily visible for everyones convenience here quote:DELEGATE ROULETTE: quote:
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hey keats, get a load of these guys believing their role PM lmao
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