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i started using duckduckgo a few weeks ago (just changing my browser search bars to default to it) i think its easily better than google for most searches now a days. over the years ive tried it and it always felt inferior but between improvements on their end and runaway enshittification of google search welp
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thathonkey posted:i started using duckduckgo a few weeks ago (just changing my browser search bars to default to it) i think its easily better than google for most searches now a days. over the years ive tried it and it always felt inferior but between improvements on their end and runaway enshittification of google search welp Same here. It's amazing for everything except shopping and images, which it is very, very bad at. I still prefer it.
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Aug 2, 2024 15:19
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in windows 11, typing is slow now.
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Aug 2, 2024 15:35
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What? How? E: legitimately wondering how typing is slow, to be clear. Not questioning your assertion, just asking how something so basic is hosed up. There's an input delay?
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Aug 2, 2024 15:42
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Taeke posted:What? How? I don't know about Windows specifically, but there's a lot of websites out there with lovely backends that cause typing to lag or worse. Dumb poo poo like trying to automatically pull up results as you type, and when it loads a bunch of stuff in a drop down menu it moves the cursor back to the beginning so if I'm searching for microwaves I end up typing avesmicrow. Websites that don't let you use the Home and End keys in text prompt boxes drive me loving insane.
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i tried to use duckduckgo for a few weeks but my anecdotes were very frustrating. i found it very difficult to ever get a niche result in any field. i'm back to begrudgingly using google with the direct-to-web-tab modifier
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Aug 2, 2024 17:31
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Stagger_Lee posted:i tried to use duckduckgo for a few weeks but my anecdotes were very frustrating. i found it very difficult to ever get a niche result in any field. i'm back to begrudgingly using google with the direct-to-web-tab modifier  besides the last part
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Aug 2, 2024 17:34
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Yeah, same - duckduckgo works perfectly well for my home needs, but at work I'm looking up error codes and vague lines from logs that like 500 people worldwide ever look at and DDG can't do poo poo so it's Google all the way.
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Aug 2, 2024 17:36
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ddg for general search, and with !w, !g, or !reddit when I don't get the result I want
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Aug 2, 2024 17:41
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Squiggle posted:Yeah, same - duckduckgo works perfectly well for my home needs, but at work I'm looking up error codes and vague lines from logs that like 500 people worldwide ever look at and DDG can't do poo poo so it's Google all the way. google used to work for that but in my experience lately it is worse than ever for obscure stuff too now
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Aug 2, 2024 17:41
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i agree that google is worse about it than ever so i would be eager to try out anything else that was better. i really think google search was like one of my favorite things on a computer for like 17 years. i thought the good times would never end.
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Aug 2, 2024 17:58
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Stagger_Lee posted:i really think google search was like one of my favorite things on a computer for like 17 years. i thought the good times would never end. I feel the same way about romhacking.net shutting down. Just assumed it could be there forever. I took it for granted.
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wash bucket posted:I feel the same way about romhacking.net shutting down. Just assumed it could be there forever. I took it for granted. It looks like they put up an upload and torrent of their file archive (surprisingly to me only 12GB) on the Internet Archive, but yeah, end of an era
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Aug 2, 2024 18:26
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gently caress that sucks. At least they're still going to keep doing news but that was the only good place to browse/search and see what all was available.
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Stagger_Lee posted:i tried to use duckduckgo for a few weeks but my anecdotes were very frustrating. i found it very difficult to ever get a niche result in any field. i'm back to begrudgingly using google with the direct-to-web-tab modifier I once again am obligated to pitch Kagi. It costs money. It's excellent.
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Aug 2, 2024 21:55
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:I once again am obligated to pitch Kagi. It costs money. It's excellent. Thank you, was trying to remember what it was called.
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Aug 2, 2024 21:59
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:I once again am obligated to pitch Kagi. It costs money. It's excellent. they're getting into AI bullshit though
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Aug 2, 2024 22:36
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Relyssa posted:they're getting into AI bullshit though So what
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Tiny Timbs posted:So what so it's a thing that's getting shittier
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Aug 2, 2024 22:43
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Modal Auxiliary posted:Same here. It's amazing for everything except shopping and images, which it is very, very bad at. I still prefer it. I have been appalled at Google's shopping tab recently. It doesn't seem to do this every time, but sometimes the results mostly ignore half my query, making it useless. Say I search "cat poster," there will be exactly ONE line of cat posters, then endless random posters of all kinds. I don't see how this is supposed to make me more likely to click and spend money. I see nothing I like in the 5 relevant products, the rest are irrelevant, I click out. Who is this benefiting
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Aug 2, 2024 22:59
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Google shopping doesn't respect rhe minus operator either
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Relyssa posted:so it's a thing that's getting shittier Not really, the search has been pretty good. I don’t use the other stuff
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Tiny Timbs posted:Not really, the search has been pretty good. I don’t use the other stuff I've been using kagi for close to a year and agree. For what it's worth I hate AI bullshit and hype probably quite a bit more than most people since I work in the software consulting space, all my prospective clients right now are fomo small business sociopaths, and it makes me wish I had pursued a more dignified career in interpretive dance. That said, search and summary is a clear llm wheelhouse and I think is one area where the right amount with right amount of personal control can yield a net positive. If you type a question into search it will do a small LLM summary by default which are from the cheap models which have mixed degrees of usefulness. You can disable this if you don't like it. I also use the AI assistant which is the standard API integrations with the big LLMs and the claim is the stuff I type doesn't get used for training Where I don't like AI stuff is when it's shoehorned into places it doesn't belong, is used to replace other perfectly working features, I can't disable it because it can easily poo poo up the space, or is used to show me tepid garbage for someone else's agenda. What Microsoft has done with all of its products tick every one of those boxes and it makes me physically ill. I don't get those vibes from this product right now e.g. binary search terms work well enough and are documented. I *love* being able to just blanket exclude or downrank sites in my preferences. I love being able to summarize a huge page someone linked me when I don't have 10 minutes to sift through it. I love to copy/paste a transcript of a 30 minute youtube video and get the bullet points instead of watching it. I'd wish it had less integration with other engines, but at least I don't get sponsored results. I find the news search is not good. I don't like some of the decisions and ethos alignments of the owner, but I'm not such a purist it's repelled me given the alternatives and my needs. DemihumanResources fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Aug 3, 2024 |
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DemihumanResources posted:I've been using kagi for close to a year and agree. For what it's worth I hate AI bullshit and hype probably quite a bit more than most people since I work in the software consulting space, all my prospective clients right now are fomo small business sociopaths, and it makes me wish I had pursued a more dignified career in interpretive dance. That said, search and summary is a clear llm wheelhouse and I think is one area where the right amount with right amount of personal control can yield a net positive. This post is offensive to me.
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Biplane posted:This post is offensive to me. sorry, I'll run it through a model and get back to you
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Remember when you had to pay Google search to get a good result?
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Coxswain Balls posted:Websites that don't let you use the Home and End keys in text prompt boxes drive me loving insane. I've never experienced such madness. I didn't know they could be disabled!
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Croccers posted:Remember when you had to pay Google search to get a good result? You were always paying, just with your data and advertising info.
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Mozi posted:You were always paying, just with your data and advertising info.
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Croccers posted:Cool so I can now pay with my data and advertising info and my money. Everybody wins!
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Sheetz forced me to manually reject 3 advertisements on the gas pump before letting me use it lmao
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Tiny Timbs posted:Sheetz forced me to manually reject 3 advertisements on the gas pump before letting me use it lmao If you burned that place down no jury would convict you. Speaking of which, all the gas stations near me have contactless payment on their pumps which works a million times better than the card reader because it skips them up-selling you on poo poo like, "Would you like a Super Shine car wash for $12? Y/N? Would you like to join our Fuel Rewards program? Y/N?" Conspicuously the contactless payment has stopped working on every pump at every station in recent months. wash bucket fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Aug 3, 2024 |
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If renewing my train pass involved ads I would loving kill. And yes, I get that trains have ads too.
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A rational company would force you to sit there watching ads until there was another car pulling up to the pump, thus ensuring it was always generating revenue with zero wasted downtime
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steinrokkan posted:A rational company would force you to sit there watching ads until there was another car pulling up to the pump, thus ensuring it was always generating revenue with zero wasted downtime Time to dust off my pitch for red lights that play ads while you wait.
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THERE AREN'T ENOUGH ADS!
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Escape From Noise posted:THERE AREN'T ENOUGH ADS! *four stout men begin shoveling ads into the ad furnace to run the ad machine at the maximum number of ads per minute*
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Literally A Person posted:*four stout men begin shoveling ads into the ad furnace to run the ad machine at the maximum number of ads per minute* Hmm yes. But four seems like too many. If half of them worked twice as hard...
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Could we make the very stout men consume ads while they are working at the ad furnace?
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