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credburn
Jun 22, 2016

look, we all have a type. mine is just mewtwo.
I see Verizon is advertising a thing where your phone plan won't change prices for three years. Whereas previously, you were grandfathered into whatever rate plan you have and there was no cutoff. It's "we're taking something away that has been there for thirty years!" but they word it like it's a selling point. Maybe the idea of grandfathered plans has gone away from all carriers?

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Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

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Cybernetic Crumb

buffbus posted:

I've seen that policy on multiple online services and they all used that age cutoff. Maybe it's just a coincidence and not backup up by law?


Found it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Online_Privacy_Protection_Act

It just changes which data you can steal about them.

Wii Spawn Camper
Nov 25, 2005


I used to be able to ask Siri how many days it had been since a date in the past and it would give me a number, now it’s just searching the web and showing me the results.

buffbus
Nov 19, 2012

credburn posted:

I see Verizon is advertising a thing where your phone plan won't change prices for three years. Whereas previously, you were grandfathered into whatever rate plan you have and there was no cutoff. It's "we're taking something away that has been there for thirty years!" but they word it like it's a selling point. Maybe the idea of grandfathered plans has gone away from all carriers?

It's a nothingburger either way. They were already just adding cost adjustment fees to old plans. It's a large part of why I left them for an MVNO a couple years back.

Nae
Sep 3, 2020

what.

Pennywise the Frown posted:

Getting by and being able to interpret a Cheesecake Factory menu should be the bare minimum.

I get what you’re saying but the Cheesecake Factory menu is almost 5,000 words, which makes it a genuine tome for a country of proud non-readers. That menu is probably doing more for literacy in this country than our entire education system.

Fucking Moron
Jan 9, 2009

Pennywise the Frown posted:

21% of adults in the United States are illiterate.

Over half of the adults in the United States read below a 6th grade level.

We are a country of complete loving morons.

You are all my children.

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug

DemihumanResources posted:

When I started seeing poo poo like "Ubuntu pro" I knew they were lost and yeah, I can see the moving away from gnu into something in-house to upsell support for as the red flag and consistent with that trend. Like, offer "pro" versions of chroot and have it work with AI servers on their own license and wall off those features in a non-FOSS way for a cash grab.

This is mostly for enterprises that are under regulatory obligations. Auditors do not want to see unsupported systems on your network. They want to see service level agreements for when poo poo goes sideways with intrusions, zero days, etc.

DemihumanResources
Apr 16, 2019

Just let me frob some dang bits already

Philthy posted:

enterprise

a curse in its own

but lmao at a load bearing system running Ubuntu in an "enterprise" environment

edit: I'd also argue if that pro thing is a good-faith case for their enterprise market there wouldn't be "Ubuntu Pro for personal users" tier nag for joerando linuxuser

DemihumanResources fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Jun 1, 2025

Cosmik Debris
Sep 12, 2006

The idea of a place being called "Chuck's Suck & Fuck" is, first of all, a little hard to believe

Philthy posted:

This is mostly for enterprises that are under regulatory obligations. Auditors do not want to see unsupported systems on your network. They want to see service level agreements for when poo poo goes sideways with intrusions, zero days, etc.

I work for DoD and we can only run RHEL because they have to run their STIGs against it and RHEL is the only vendor that will support that (afaik)

Debian based systems are strictly forbidden

Cosmik Debris
Sep 12, 2006

The idea of a place being called "Chuck's Suck & Fuck" is, first of all, a little hard to believe
And they still give us so much loving grief about RHEL. Most of the RDT&E ecosystem is windows and they brick our systems remotely once a month. They locked 200 people out and deleted their accounts several months ago because somebody removed the active directory lookup from RHEL login because they didn't know what it was

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

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Cybernetic Crumb

Cosmik Debris posted:

I work for DoD and we can only run RHEL because they have to run their STIGs against it and RHEL is the only vendor that will support that (afaik)

Debian based systems are strictly forbidden

A big part of this is it takes like 5 years to get your crypto modules through NIST for your OS to be FIPS compliant and that makes it pretty much impossible to run a normal linux distro because they're going to have lifecycles shorter than that. Red Hat will support a RHEL release for like 15 years when you include the optional ELS license.

DemihumanResources
Apr 16, 2019

Just let me frob some dang bits already

Cosmik Debris posted:

somebody removed the active directory lookup from RHEL login because they didn't know what it was

lol

I feel like talking about government tech infrastructure here is off topic because it's always been lovely. I was or worked closely with DOE contractors for a while and it was an exercise in frustration to get anything done

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



That's some Elon level efficiencizing right there, good job by them

Cosmik Debris
Sep 12, 2006

The idea of a place being called "Chuck's Suck & Fuck" is, first of all, a little hard to believe
don't worry it only affected the people who actually do work. the people with windows based NMCIs were able to continue using powerpoint.

edit:

DemihumanResources posted:

lol

I feel like talking about government tech infrastructure here is off topic because it's always been lovely. I was or worked closely with DOE contractors for a while and it was an exercise in frustration to get anything done

normally i would agree but I work for at a technology R&D center...we're supposed to know tech.

I'm being lovely, everyone where I work more or less knows what they're doing, it's the IA people in washington who drive all these silly requirements that don't understand being able to do work means we have to have systems that can do stuff. They want to lock everyone out of their systems because that's extremely secure.

Cosmik Debris fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Jun 1, 2025

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Currency is getting less and less valuable. I'm so happy the penny is being gotten rid of but honestly I think we should get rid of the one dollar bill and the five dollar bill and replace them with coins.

I hear so many people who don't want the dollar bill to go away whine, "I'll have to carry around so much change! How can I carry around all those coins??"

60 years ago a dollar was worth what $10 is worth today. So all the things you can buy today that are less than $10, the people back then used coins for. They managed just fine. And they didn't even have the option to pay with cards or a phone!

The dollar bill right this second is the lowest value bill in American history. It's stupid.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:

Currency is getting less and less valuable. I'm so happy the penny is being gotten rid of but honestly I think we should get rid of the one dollar bill and the five dollar bill and replace them with coins.

I hear so many people who don't want the dollar bill to go away whine, "I'll have to carry around so much change! How can I carry around all those coins??"

60 years ago a dollar was worth what $10 is worth today. So all the things you can buy today that are less than $10, the people back then used coins for. They managed just fine. And they didn't even have the option to pay with cards or a phone!

The dollar bill right this second is the lowest value bill in American history. It's stupid.

I'm not sure why people have such a hard on for coins?

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Coins are too heavy. No one wants to walk around with a pound of coins.

Cerekk
Sep 24, 2004

Mr. Beast fucking rules

DM me to get in on my Feastables referral program
There is no reason for physical currency to exist at all anymore other than for crime

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

by sebmojo

Cerekk posted:

There is no reason for physical currency to exist at all anymore other than for crime

As long as drugs are illegal we need cash, friend.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Cerekk posted:

There is no reason for physical currency to exist at all anymore other than for crime
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redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Imagine the world we will soon live in, where every transaction is an entry in a system somewhere and can be traced and tracked.

Crescent Wrench
Sep 30, 2005

The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination.
Grimey Drawer

Cerekk posted:

There is no reason for physical currency to exist at all anymore other than for crime

Tell me you don't care about poor people without saying you don't care about poor people.

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012

Cerekk posted:

There is no reason for physical currency to exist at all anymore other than for crime

This isn't a very compelling argument against physical currency given the people who are currently in charge of deciding what constitutes a crime in America.

credburn
Jun 22, 2016

look, we all have a type. mine is just mewtwo.

redshirt posted:

Imagine the world we will soon live in, where every transaction is an entry in a system somewhere and can be traced and tracked.

And you don't pay a set amount for any product; instead the cost is directly proportionate to your wealth (minus your value as an individual so the rich still will pay less)

dreezy
Mar 4, 2015

yeah, rip.

Cerekk posted:

There is no reason to exist at all anymore other than for crime

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

Cerekk posted:

There is no reason for physical currency to exist at all anymore other than for crime

Actually it should be illegal for businesses not to take physical currency. Some people don't have access to banks or credit cards, some people want to live without them, and some people are making transactions that they don't want tracked for any number of reasons that are entirely their business.

And every transaction under $10 being done with coins is not going to automatically mean you're going to have to lug around a huge pocket filled with heavy change all the time. That would be like me saying I can't fit all these valueless dollar bills in my wallet.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Here's an excellent short and breezy read from 2019 from the ACLU listing why cashless is a bad thing

https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/say-no-cashless-future-and-cashless-stores

Cosmik Debris
Sep 12, 2006

The idea of a place being called "Chuck's Suck & Fuck" is, first of all, a little hard to believe
lets get rid of physical currency. in fact lets all keep copies of a distributed ledger. we can all use our GPUs doing hashes to find keys that we can trade to each other as proof that our ledgers aren't fabricated

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

Nae posted:

I get what you’re saying but the Cheesecake Factory menu is almost 5,000 words, which makes it a genuine tome for a country of proud non-readers. That menu is probably doing more for literacy in this country than our entire education system.

Yeah I don't know why I used the longest menu in human history as an example but that's what popped in my head so I wrote it down.


loving Moron posted:

You are all my children.

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug

Cosmik Debris posted:

They want to lock everyone out of their systems because that's extremely secure.

They're not wrong. It's scary out there.

idkacat
May 6, 2024
Loonies and toonies/one and two Euro for the boring name coins > dollar bills, and it is a direct attack on the most vulnerable members of the community to not accept cash. Easy as.

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel
I was in Ireland recently and it actually kinda sucked getting a pocket full of coins after a few days of doing stuff.

Paper is lighter and takes up less space.

Luckily everything was more expensive so it's easier to spend those coins. But only if you're buying small things much more often. Like a bottle of water out of a vending machine a few times a day.

So it's bad. Overall.

Wii Spawn Camper
Nov 25, 2005


I hate carrying things so coins are annoying but it’s fun plunking down coins on a counter like a pirate or cowboy.

DemihumanResources
Apr 16, 2019

Just let me frob some dang bits already

Cerekk posted:

There is no reason for physical currency to exist at all anymore other than for crime

yes, and crime is cool and good

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

by sebmojo
RETVRN

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

DemihumanResources posted:

yes, and crime is cool and good

I'm putting together A Crew....

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

Did someone say anime horse girls?
some people are unbanked because banks are lovely and demand to be paid to store your money, if there was no cost savings and checking accounts then yes, but we live in a lovely world.

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

PhazonLink posted:

some people are unbanked because banks are lovely and demand to be paid to store your money, if there was no cost savings and checking accounts then yes, but we live in a lovely world.

A lot of banks pay you to store your money. All of my banks for the past 30 years or so actually.

Wii Spawn Camper
Nov 25, 2005


PhazonLink posted:

some people are unbanked because banks are lovely and demand to be paid to store your money, if there was no cost savings and checking accounts then yes, but we live in a lovely world.

I don’t think I’ve ever paid the bank just for checking and savings accounts.

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idkacat
May 6, 2024

Wii Spawn Camper posted:

I don’t think I’ve ever paid the bank just for checking and savings accounts.

Banks in Texas will absolutely charge you per month for a basic rear end checking account.

This, again, mainly applies to young and poor people, not professional computer janitors with three decades of history.

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