CubicalSucrose posted:

Goddamnit, Keats. I get 1-shot copies of roles I visit. Keats claimed cop and/or doc, figured either of those would be great to have a backup of.

Shared this in masonry to see if there would be a better target. Now I've got a 1-shot bg which...is not the best.

CCKeane posted:

You can still yell at Keats, arguably it's better now because he can't say anything to defend himself.

I hear Keats goes to fancy restaurants and smuggles in his own bottle of ketchup and just pours it all over everything. Including sushi.

CCKeane posted:

So to be clear, you are claiming to be in a masonry, and get 1-shot powers based on people you visit, in a game that isn't role madness, and has a flipped vanilla and claimed miller?

That feels like two abilities for one player. I don't know if I quite believe it!

wologar posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keOaQm6RpBg

wologar posted:

Masonry is scumchat.

CCKeane posted:

So to be clear, you are claiming to be in a masonry, and get 1-shot powers based on people you visit, in a game that isn't role madness, and has a flipped vanilla and claimed miller?

That feels like two abilities for one player. I don't know if I quite believe it!

CubicalSucrose posted:

Getting some pretty strong Disney Mafia flashbacks. Anyone have context on how wild a mod Opop is?

CubicalSucrose posted:

I didn't know if I quite believed it either. I mean, this was my first post.

wologar posted:

Masonry is scumchat.

Tired Moritz posted:

i didnt do anything. didnt even touch my confessional because it got deleted by discord

Opopanax posted:

Humalong, Alvin the Chipmunk, Town Aligned Vanilla

And

Keats, Winnie the Pooh, Town Aligned bodyguard

Got addicted to drugs N1

It is now D2

Zoya posted:

cube's role claim doesn't sound that wild to me idk, the drawback to his ability is that he has to spend 2 nights to actually use a power

on the other hand, hum was vanilla and keats was normal BG, and my role is also a very standard mafia role

still, i feel like i'd rather look elsewhere than dunk cube today, and i'm gonna start with a very careful re-reading of people who forced the repeated swerves off of vote leaders which dragged us into a no-elim D1 (tragically, i was here and watching the thread at deadline but... could not vote, lol)

CCKeane posted:

So I'm thinking, maybe here, if you are town, maybe you have a disadvantage in your mason chat, by having a scum mason. Does that sound possible?

CCKeane posted:

So even though cube failed your game yesterday, and was found visiting a player that died today, you do not think cube is scum, is that correct?

Zoya posted:

that is correct, although "failed my game" is a bit of a reach. my gambit's goal and outcome was soft townclears on anyone who signed up for the masonry, not outright condemnation of anyone who didn't

CubicalSucrose posted:

If I'm town, which I am, then it seems plausible that I would have a scum mason, yes. That fits the description I got of "unconfirmed" masonry.

The masonries I've been in have been:
Grandi (twice, town, won Chess Maf for us)
ANarc (town, hidden temple lost, don't like that format)
Illu (town, same role exactly in Hovarabord, was suspicious the entire game)
Sub Rosa and Keats (town and town in Hunters in the Garden, was pretty open with both fairly early)
Oh, everyone in Cookfia, not a big fan of that power usage but eh. Kind of a weird case there.

CCKeane posted:

Oh?

CubicalSucrose posted:

If I'm town, which I am, then it seems plausible that I would have a scum mason, yes. That fits the description I got of "unconfirmed" masonry.

The masonries I've been in have been:
Grandi (twice, town, won Chess Maf for us)
ANarc (town, hidden temple lost, don't like that format)
Illu (town, same role exactly in Hovarabord, was suspicious the entire game)
Sub Rosa and Keats (town and town in Hunters in the Garden, was pretty open with both fairly early)
Oh, everyone in Cookfia, not a big fan of that power usage but eh. Kind of a weird case there.

Zoya posted:

i do not understand why you've bolded the word outcome

Zoya posted:

i don't feel like waiting for hal to check in, sorry hal, but i would like to thank you all for officially participating in my experiment!

claims can be masoned:

• hum
  
• punk
  
• sandwolf
  
• maerlyn
  
• idle amalgam

claims cannot be masoned:

• cube

does not claim a masonizable state:

• keats
  
• wolo
  
• cckeane
  
• fool of sound
  
• hambeet

has not posted, might not know he's in this game:

• hal

with the conditions i listed, i don't think scum would risk speaking up to claim they can be masoned by me, unless they simply planned to kill me tonight so i couldn't report back. therefore,

humalong, punkreas, sandwolf, maerlyn, and idle amalgam are town, or at least are not scum.

i am not a masonizer at all! thank you for playing

CCKeane posted:

So let's follow your logic here then:

wolo
Keane
FoS
Hambeet
Hal
Cube

We have no flipped scum. You feel like scum is in this list. Cube is seen visiting Keats, who died.

You think Cube is less likely to be scum, then, by your logic?

CCKeane posted:

I liked your first account better.

Zoya posted:

account?

Zoya posted:

while i'm still here (this is probably about to change), can you answer what you meant by this?

fool of sound posted:

Zoya posted:

oh lol

the probe messages are random historical permaban messages being copypasted, they aren't real

fool of sound posted:

So are we entertaining the notion that it is more likely that keats, who claimed doctor, actually died because they got lucky and bodyguarded the actual kill target, rather than just scum killing the claimed doctor?

Zoya posted:

Mafia games are a space for serious discussion and gameplay, not some kind of comedy club. "Jokes" in this space are NOT okay. User loses posting privileges for 6 hours.

Maerlyn posted:

Hum's death is a mystery then, if Keats died BGing the scum target, presumably that would be Hum because scum don't have two kills (please don't let this be fire & ice)

Maerlyn posted:

Unless someone here actually admits they are in a masonry with Cube, he may potentially be a lying liar who lies and is therefore scum.

I feel like he's being super cagey, especially regarding a mason partner - perhaps he hasn't been asked directly but when talking about this current game he theoretically is masoned in, instead he's talking about all the games he's been masoned in before.

Cube who is your mason buddy? If you don't want to reveal that what convos have you had, who did they think looks scummy, etc?

Zoya posted:

it's also kind of funny that now you want to lean on the results of my D1 gambit, when your D1 position on the list was that it was an an overstatement. you and FoS pretending the gambit had no value or, in FoS's case, trying to push the idea that it was a scum gambit (when this would have been an incredibly non-beneficial to me if i was scum) is actually the main reason you're both on the top of my scum list, so this about face is doing nothing to lower my eyebrow

shwinnes in that list too (i hosed up the post and fixed it later), but yes, scum is in this list. as we do not have 7 scum players in this game, this does not make everyone in this list scum. not difficult math, actually!

Maerlyn posted:

Hum's death is a mystery then, if Keats died BGing the scum target, presumably that would be Hum because scum don't have two kills (please don't let this be fire & ice)

Zoya posted:

it's also kind of funny that now you want to lean on the results of my D1 gambit, when your D1 position on the list was that it was an an overstatement. you and FoS pretending the gambit had no value or, in FoS's case, trying to push the idea that it was a scum gambit (when this would have been an incredibly non-beneficial to me if i was scum) is actually the main reason you're both on the top of my scum list, so this about face is doing nothing to lower my eyebrow

shwinnes in that list too (i hosed up the post and fixed it later), but yes, scum is in this list. as we do not have 7 scum players in this game, this does not make everyone in this list scum. not difficult math, actually!

Zoya posted:

the other possibility for 2 kills is a PGO ...... nevermind, i'm still gonna hit reply because but hum was vanilla town he can't visit anyone i'm an idiot