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From rereading D2, I'm very uncertain on what Cube was trying to accomplish but there are a few things that jump out at me. When he gets caught visiting Keats, this is his explanation:CubicalSucrose posted:Goddamnit, Keats. I get 1-shot copies of roles I visit. Keats claimed cop and/or doc, figured either of those would be great to have a backup of. Emphasis mine. So puts forth this bit that he told his mason partner he could copy roles (beet was that something he put in your chat?) Hal's response feels genuine to me, saying I'm not in a masonry and Cube's role sounds too similar. I noticed 13 minutes pass between Cube's reaction and then the followup: CubicalSucrose posted:I can't loving believe what just happened. Theatrical, "poo poo what do I say" kinda post and then: CubicalSucrose posted:I was waiting for you to post in thread and clear up what we'd talked about in masonry. And you...counterclaim my role? That doesn't feel like a rehearsed bit between scum but like Cube saw an opportunity to sow doubt on who was telling the truth? That pushes Hal more into the town category for me, his claim of being a backup and inheriting Keat's role also feels real.
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# ? Feb 13, 2025 23:44 |
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skimming back nowCCKeane posted:He did not flip unconfirmed mason. yeah neither will I. my role title is just ‘town aligned mason’.
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Maerlyn posted:From rereading D2, I'm very uncertain on what Cube was trying to accomplish but there are a few things that jump out at me. When he gets caught visiting Keats, this is his explanation: no, he didn’t talk about any other actions with me at all. tbh if he did I’d have been fairly suss as to why he was a mason AND had another ability.
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Speaking of rehearsed bits, while rereading I noticed this that feels incredibly fake:![]() (sorry so tiny, Wol/Cube vibe bugs me during this time) Cube found some Hal quotes, feels like he's trying to add fuel for his claim: CubicalSucrose posted:What a wild scum setup. Knew I was going to visit Keats. "Backup" to make it sound more realistic. I'd expect this from Zoya but not Hal. I may be wildly wrong and if wol, Cube and Hal are/were all scum it's cute as a scum gambit, I just don't get the sense that Hal is in on it.
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wologar posted:Maer, you were very in sync with Cube D1. Do you think he would plan such a gambit with Hal in scumchat? This is ![]()
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Changing to a different topic:Punkreas posted:Absolutely nothing, and nothing the Night before, either! Is your passive protective/BP? You were visited by someone (I don't want to out them yet in case it's pro-town, but maybe it was murdery and you blocked it).
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So, I bodyguarded FoS last night, Opop never acknowledged it, told me I was successful or failed, or mentioned I was jailed What’s up Opop (or discord)
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did you @ him in there? i think you're all making up discord issues ![]()
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Very interested in the people who would think I’m scum with cube and rehearsed that, I guess if I contort hard enough it makes some small sense but it’s such a weird zero-sum type of gambit since it would guarantee a scum elimination that day and only provide very limited cover for the survivor. Especially in a game suspected to have a second killer. I’d put Keane pretty high on my scum list today
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hambeet posted:did you @ him in there? It’s 5am his time, I’ll give it a bit
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hambeet posted:i think zoya's claim on hal is pretty compelling, but i really wanna hear from hal about yesterday. The claim I was jailed and there was only one kill so I must be a second killer? Why would it be any more likely than me being the target of the kill or there just not being two kills every night in a fairly small game?
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Hal Insandenza posted:The claim I was jailed and there was only one kill so I must be a second killer? Why would it be any more likely than me being the target of the kill or there just not being two kills every night in a fairly small game? idk being suss about the person that was jailed the night we had one less kill is usually the standard operating procedure round these here parts. buuuut it's also only be two nights so the sample size on that one is pretty small i guess.
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one less kill could also equal zero kills, depending on how many killers. anyway.
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As others implied, Cube claiming he told me stuff in a masonry is really crazy unless he had a very good reason to think beet wasn’t going to come blow that poo poo up. Maybe he just felt so far gone that he was hoping it would either quickly swap to me or else he just hoped the over the top display would do what it seems to have and spill suspicion onto me after he died, but definitely a bit of a tingle that the masons were both scum and he knew that beet would keep quiet (or jump in to try and get cred)
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so then i come in today and own up to the masonry instead of just keeping my head down?
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Hal Insandenza posted:The claim I was jailed and there was only one kill so I must be a second killer? Why would it be any more likely than me being the target of the kill or there just not being two kills every night in a fairly small game? Who would want to kill you, with that smile?
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hambeet posted:so then i come in today and own up to the masonry instead of just keeping my head down? Well yeah, maybe you were worried about a rolecop? It’s only a tingle, but it’s still also weird you hammer and never mention anything then either
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Maerlyn posted:Going back a bit because everything about Cube/Hal (but actually beet) is weird and trying to parse it...question for wol: Because I thought there was scum there.
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##vote beet
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Hal Insandenza posted:Well yeah, maybe you were worried about a rolecop? what? I already said I didn’t know it would be hammer when I voted. not keen on this shading.
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Yeah I don't think Ham is jumping out at me here.
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Maerlyn posted:Changing to a different topic: Nah, no protection, only a very specific reflex - so aside from a particular circumstance, I'm all but vanilla Town
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Punkreas posted:Nah, no protection, only a very specific reflex - so aside from a particular circumstance, I'm all but vanilla Town music to my ears. i think punkreas is town, maerlyn is town, beet is town hal claims to have protected FoS. since hal is bodyguard and not doc, if FoS was the nk target then hal would be dead. zoya claims to have JAILED hal, which means that hal's claim can't be verified anyway if zoya is telling the truth hal could also just be scum but i don't think the gambit between cube/hal is likely i would rather look at someone else today CCKeane posted:I think it is Hal, yes. Zoya's claim seems credible to me. CCKeane posted:##unvote I don't like Keane's dancing about ##vote keane
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wologar posted:##vote beet i also don't like this vote. Wologar was a top townread d1, but i'm leaning scum now Keane/Wologar are good picks for today
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Hal and Zoya both have confirmable roles. I'd rather wait on them
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The only person I wouldn't vote today is Fool. I'd prefer beet, shwinn, Keane or Maer.
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Hal Insandenza posted:So, I bodyguarded FoS last night, Opop never acknowledged it, told me I was successful or failed, or mentioned I was jailed scumslip. opop has not acknowledged any of my actions in discord this game. your actions have been kills, so you're not familiar with how opop treats normal actions
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wologar posted:The only person I wouldn't vote today is Fool. Agree with this!! I’m pretty content with Ham or Hal. Somethings off with them.
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shwinnebego posted:music to my ears. This is nonsense, calling a vote and then a quick unvote to consider "dancing about" is silly. There was one post between my posts. I suspect what happen is, Schwinn clicked the little question mark by my name, and tried to manufacture a case, rather than looking at context.
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Here is my specific thought process: I believe that Zoya is telling the truth. At first, I thought Hal was definitely blocked from doing the kill because of the jail. But! It is possible that Hal was a night kill target, especially since FoS could be perceived as a likely target of protections. So yeah I wanted more responses from Hal.
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Zoya posted:scumslip. opop has not acknowledged any of my actions in discord this game. your actions have been kills, so you're not familiar with how opop treats normal actions Or…. Bear with me here… this was my only action so far this game so how would I have known that Good try though
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hambeet posted:what? I already said I didn’t know it would be hammer when I voted. Yeah that’s fine but if you read the game and saw constant discussion about masons and who they could be it’s still weird you vote before explaining how you are masons with the guy you are voting for
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Sandwolf posted:Agree with this!! Because you think I’m actually scum or because you think I’m a SK of some sort Why don’t you read back 300 games or so and see where I pulled a scum gambit like that. Because I don’t think you’ll find one
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Hal Insandenza posted:Because you think I’m actually scum or because you think I’m a SK of some sort is this an sk claim
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Imo I think it's very weird to jail the claimed bodyguard back up.
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Hey ham is your flavor one of the other duck nephews?
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Tired Moritz posted:Imo I think it's very weird to jail the claimed bodyguard back up. Yes I would like more insight into the motivation here
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Hal Insandenza posted:Because you think I’m actually scum or because you think I’m a SK of some sort Your tone feels all screwed up here but I think the annoyance of this rings earnest to me
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Tired Moritz posted:Imo I think it's very weird to jail the claimed bodyguard back up. Who’s scum Moritz
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# ? Feb 13, 2025 23:44 |
I’m thinking we’re maybe getting too fancy and should look for scum amongst these folks: CCKeane, Punkreas, Tired Moritz, Zoya, shwin (people who didn’t vote Cube yesterday + hammer)
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