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Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


ah, beet was hammer, Shwin just apologized for putting scum in hammer-range. Put both on the list

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Zoya
Jun 12, 2023

echoes of a distant past,
bodies die but voices last.
once were held within a cell,
your mind is where these voices dwell.




Hal Insandenza posted:

Or…. Bear with me here… this was my only action so far this game so how would I have known that

Good try though

you chose not to use your prot ability n1? when we had a claimed doc? lol ok

Zoya
Jun 12, 2023

echoes of a distant past,
bodies die but voices last.
once were held within a cell,
your mind is where these voices dwell.




Tired Moritz posted:

Imo I think it's very weird to jail the claimed bodyguard back up.

i was torn between jailing hal to protect him (believing the hal/cube "one of em gotta go" scenario, this would leave hal pretty towncleared, so scum might just try to kill the prot) and jailing ham to stop him from taking an action (i suspected ham might be the SK... i guess i might still suspect that, fluttering in at the last second to hammer without having claimed actions or done anything of substance was a red alert at the time, but i've cooled on it based on posting today)

oh

right

Zoya posted:

you chose not to use your prot ability n1? when we had a claimed doc? lol ok

universal backup, no ability n1, fine this isn't a gotcha but i still think u scum

shwinnebego
Jul 11, 2002


Zoya posted:

i was torn between jailing hal to protect him (believing the hal/cube "one of em gotta go" scenario, this would leave hal pretty towncleared, so scum might just try to kill the prot) and jailing ham to stop him from taking an action (i suspected ham might be the SK... i guess i might still suspect that, fluttering in at the last second to hammer without having claimed actions or done anything of substance was a red alert at the time, but i've cooled on it based on posting today)

oh

right

universal backup, no ability n1, fine this isn't a gotcha but i still think u scum

this doesn't make any sense - bodyguard means you die in place of the nk target right? why would you jail that player to protect them rather than letting them use their power

##vote zoya

Zoya
Jun 12, 2023

echoes of a distant past,
bodies die but voices last.
once were held within a cell,
your mind is where these voices dwell.




shwinnebego posted:

this doesn't make any sense - bodyguard means you die in place of the nk target right? why would you jail that player to protect them rather than letting them use their power

##vote zoya

because i thought hal would be the NK target, not a difficult concept shwinne!

Zoya
Jun 12, 2023

echoes of a distant past,
bodies die but voices last.
once were held within a cell,
your mind is where these voices dwell.




and, in fact, we only had 1 kill, so a kill got blocked somehow and no ones fessing up to a reason for that (unless there's an every-other-night SK, i suppose), so my decision was probably correct one way or the other! so nyah! :flip:

shwinnebego
Jul 11, 2002


Zoya posted:

because i thought hal would be the NK target, not a difficult concept shwinne!

it's not a difficult concept, no, i just don't believe you

Zoya
Jun 12, 2023

echoes of a distant past,
bodies die but voices last.
once were held within a cell,
your mind is where these voices dwell.




shwinnebego posted:

it's not a difficult concept, no, i just don't believe you

i'm town so not believing me is a scum move, smh shwinne you fell for it again :baduk::baduk::baduk:

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

Everything at once
the evil step-son

This av has been socialized, viva la Revolución

Zoya posted:

you chose not to use your prot ability n1? when we had a claimed doc? lol ok

He said he was a backup, so he wouldn't have inherited it/used until N2.

I was told he went nowhere N1. By Opop. I've been told both nights my action results so I don't know that I believe that Opop hasn't told you anything.

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

Everything at once
the evil step-son

This av has been socialized, viva la Revolución

Tired Moritz posted:

Imo I think it's very weird to jail the claimed bodyguard back up.

Don't know why I didn't consider this

Who did you jail N1?

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


I’m not sure it’s that weird to jail the claimed backup bodyguard when the scum who died the day before may have soft cleared the backup bodyguard.

Scum would want to jail the bodyguard cuz, what? Prevent Hal from being the NK instead of their intended? idk

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
Maybe the NK has nothing to do with them and they're creating an alibi early on.

But no one claimed to be a roleblocker or a doc by now so I think Zoya is more inno for now if we're taking their word.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


Who scum moritz

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)

Sandwolf posted:

Who scum moritz

If you keep heckling me to force reads, I'm gonna say you.

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

Everything at once
the evil step-son

This av has been socialized, viva la Revolución

I'll heckle you too

Who scum Moritz

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
Tbh I don't think it's sand because they were heckling cube to talk about the masonry

From vibes I think it's Schwinne. It was pretty clear that no one was buying cube's last ditch effort to frame Hal so them coming in feels like a scum bus rush

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)

Johnny Keats posted:

Cube and Maerlyn seem to be doing their best impression of obvious scum buds

??? Keats day 1 prediction?

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

Everything at once
the evil step-son

This av has been socialized, viva la Revolución

Punkreas posted:

Nah, no protection, only a very specific reflex - so aside from a particular circumstance, I'm all but vanilla Town

Ehhhh maybe I'm just unimaginative but I can't think of anything that would be a reflexive reaction that would be favorable to town, but also if you were scum you would just claim to be VT proper, not add additional details...so okay, no further questions your honor.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
So we're all agreeing that our roles are all simple, right?

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

Everything at once
the evil step-son

This av has been socialized, viva la Revolución

Punkreas posted:



This fixed my Discord issue, FYI!

Why didn't I notice this sooner, dammit

Zoya
Jun 12, 2023

echoes of a distant past,
bodies die but voices last.
once were held within a cell,
your mind is where these voices dwell.




Maerlyn posted:

Don't know why I didn't consider this

Who did you jail N1?

i jailed tmor N1

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


Tired Moritz posted:

So we're all agreeing that our roles are all simple, right?

This is a weird post to make ahaha

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

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Sandwolf posted:

This is a weird post to make ahaha

Why? The fact that cube claimed mason + role back up was one of the reasons they got dunked.

I got miller, vt and BG flipped. Cube's flip just says mason so I'm double-checking with everyone that this isn't role madness

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)

Zoya posted:

i jailed tmor N1

I forgot what the discord pic looked like and last time I checked my confessional was gone so this is unverifiable from my end

Zoya
Jun 12, 2023

echoes of a distant past,
bodies die but voices last.
once were held within a cell,
your mind is where these voices dwell.




i agree that this is a game with probably exclusively very "standard" mafia roles from everything we've seen so far

Zoya
Jun 12, 2023

echoes of a distant past,
bodies die but voices last.
once were held within a cell,
your mind is where these voices dwell.




Tired Moritz posted:

I forgot what the discord pic looked like and last time I checked my confessional was gone so this is unverifiable from my end

yeah, i didn't bother saying anything about jailing you cuz you said D2 you didn't even try to take an action lol

Zoya
Jun 12, 2023

echoes of a distant past,
bodies die but voices last.
once were held within a cell,
your mind is where these voices dwell.




opop hasn't been giving confirmations of night actions anyway so i don't think you'd know if you were jailed anyway? maybe you get notified if your action fails, i dunno

wologar
Feb 11, 2014

I'm feeling this one more: ##vote shwinn

Zoya
Jun 12, 2023

echoes of a distant past,
bodies die but voices last.
once were held within a cell,
your mind is where these voices dwell.




shwinnebego posted:

oh hell yeah it's keane, we're gonna be scum together again

perhaps he was right all along

##vote shwinne

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

I asked Opop for clarification and he got mad at me and I blame beet

He also said something along the lines of “dumbass you know I’m not going to tell you anything unless you got blocked or were killed sheeesh get your head out of your rear end”

Which… kind of makes me think I’d be told if I was jailed?

Zoya
Jun 12, 2023

echoes of a distant past,
bodies die but voices last.
once were held within a cell,
your mind is where these voices dwell.




Hal Insandenza posted:

I asked Opop for clarification and he got mad at me and I blame beet

He also said something along the lines of “dumbass you know I’m not going to tell you anything unless you got blocked or were killed sheeesh get your head out of your rear end”

Which… kind of makes me think I’d be told if I was jailed?

i see

##vote hal

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Hrm now he basically was like I’d probably not tel you with a role like bodyguard so I’m just going to call this a null set of information

Zoya’s fixation on me is pretty scummy on its own though so I dunno

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Keane/Zoya at the top of my scum list atm

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Zoya posted:

i see

##vote hal

Fwiw while I don’t exactly frown upon faking mod communications I generally find it a bit distasteful and would probably only do it if it was integral to a fake claim or super entertaining or maybe in a critical end-game situation

I mean that’s probably what I would say as scum too, but I like to think I play a gentleman’s mafia game even when I’m scum. I’m the Professor Layton of SA Mafia

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
imo my pet theory right now is that cube is mason pals with the sk

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Tired Moritz posted:

imo my pet theory right now is that cube is mason pals with the sk

Beet would totally murder me so I could see it

Zoya
Jun 12, 2023

echoes of a distant past,
bodies die but voices last.
once were held within a cell,
your mind is where these voices dwell.




Hal Insandenza posted:

Fwiw while I don’t exactly frown upon faking mod communications I generally find it a bit distasteful and would probably only do it if it was integral to a fake claim or super entertaining or maybe in a critical end-game situation

I mean that’s probably what I would say as scum too, but I like to think I play a gentleman’s mafia game even when I’m scum. I’m the Professor Layton of SA Mafia

i'll throw the whole mod directly under the bus in-thread if it advances my wincon, i've done it before and i'll do it again, so i can't rule it out as a tactic

i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and switch back to ##vote shwinne for now, though


Tired Moritz posted:

imo my pet theory right now is that cube is mason pals with the sk

ham pings me a lot as SK too, i said earlier my decision last night was very split between "jail hal to protect him" and "jail ham to stop the SK" but then ham claimed mason with cube and ??? i dunno why he'd want to bring scrutiny on himself like that if he's the SK

and with cube's actual role being "mason", i think it makes sense to me that cube's mason partner is also just a "mason"... so SK doesn't quite make sense there. cube could still kill because factional night kill, but an SK's kill would be their actual ability, no?

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
i could see an 2 scum + sk team with the sk and scum having a masonry to compensate for a smaller team

but again, im just wondering why scum would have a masonry ability + 2 deaths in n1

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

I asked Opop a question in discord and he just kept saying how stinky every player in this game was and kept posting gifs of him holding his nose and waving his hand in front of his face.

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Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
im never clearing my cache so i will have to believe all of you

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