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Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

shwinnebego posted:

multiple things true at once imo

1. You are earnestly reporting your memory of how often you have rolled miller and claimed miller (aka, not that often)

2. Your memory of your own past roles is likely correct

3. Sandwolf is earnestly reporting his memory of how often you have rolled miller and claimed miller (in his view, quite often)

4. Sandwolf's memroy of your past roles is likely wrong

5. You are scum

I do agree with TM it is weird of sandwolf to have that particular incorrect memory. But I don't think scum sandwolf would just make poo poo up so I guess wolfie just parties too hard these days and is losing critical memory abilities

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Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

Everything at once
the evil step-son

This av has been socialized, viva la Revolución

Votecount for Day 1

Tired Moritz (3): CCKeane, Sandwolf, Johnny Keats, shwinnebego, Johnny Keats
CubicalSucrose (2): Idle Amalgam, Johnny Keats, Johnny Keats, Johnny Keats
CCKeane (2): wologar, shwinnebego, shwinnebego, Zoya
hambeet (2): Punkreas, Hal Insandenza
Johnny Keats (1): CubicalSucrose, Maerlyn, CubicalSucrose
Zoya (1): CubicalSucrose
Sandwolf (1): CubicalSucrose, CubicalSucrose, Tired Moritz
Punkreas (0): wologar, wologar, shwinnebego, shwinnebego

Not Voting (3): fool of sound, hambeet, Mr. Humalong

With 15 alive, it's 8 votes to execute. The current deadline is September 12th, 2023 at 9 p.m. PDT -- that's in about 1 day, 12 hours.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
Imo I think sand is just embarrassed and confused me with cube :c00l:

shwinnebego
Jul 11, 2002


Hal Insandenza posted:

I do agree with TM it is weird of sandwolf to have that particular incorrect memory. But I don't think scum sandwolf would just make poo poo up so I guess wolfie just parties too hard these days and is losing critical memory abilities

sandwolf, just remember that if you keep partying hard one day you can be as dumb as me

shwinnebego
Jul 11, 2002


( i was gonna do a sober september, and so far i have been since getting back to the US on Sep 4 but I've also had covid so it kinda feels like cheating. might have to extend my sobriety into october as a matter of fulfilling the spirit of my intention)

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

Everything at once
the evil step-son

This av has been socialized, viva la Revolución

I think I want to vote one of the TM voters or someone who said they would vote TM but weren't going to rush into anything. That last bit is especially scummy to me, so fool of sound or keane may be good choices there.

##vote Keane

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Maerlyn posted:

I think I want to vote one of the TM voters or someone who said they would vote TM but weren't going to rush into anything. That last bit is especially scummy to me, so fool of sound or keane may be good choices there.

##vote Keane

So to be clear, you are voting me, because I said I would vote TM, but weren't going to rush into anything, even though I have the earliest vote on TM.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


shwinnebego posted:

sandwolf, just remember that if you keep partying hard one day you can be as dumb as me

I’m listening!!!

I’m actually gonna go try and find at least 2-3 instances of Moritz claiming miller, if I find them I expect everyone to tell me how cool and impressive I am

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Sandwolf posted:

I’m listening!!!

I’m actually gonna go try and find at least 2-3 instances of Moritz claiming miller, if I find them I expect everyone to tell me how cool and impressive I am

I will agree to these terms yes.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


alright I hit a wall with VF stuff but yeah I couldn't find Moritz claiming miller in the last ~8 months

shwinnebego
Jul 11, 2002


drat, you did research

this is townwolf

but nevertheless easily scum moritz, we as a community have been tal'mbout how scum should fake claim miller more and i see moritz as the perfect person to attempt it

open to a better case

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Sandwolf posted:

alright I hit a wall with VF stuff but yeah I couldn't find Moritz claiming miller in the last ~8 months

You're still cool and impressive in my heart, Sandwolf.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Absolutely nowhere else and my heart is notoriously small but you have a little space in the universe.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

shwinnebego posted:

drat, you did research

this is townwolf

but nevertheless easily scum moritz, we as a community have been tal'mbout how scum should fake claim miller more and i see moritz as the perfect person to attempt it

open to a better case

Can I instead interest you in a vote on Keats?

Johnny Keats posted:

Oh yeah also I'm a cop.

Johnny Keats posted:

Because a normal miller would be redundant. I'm not really a cop, if that wasn't clear.

Policyvote liars.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
I don't really think that jokeclaims early in day 1 are policy vote territory lol.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Sandwolf posted:

alright I hit a wall with VF stuff but yeah I couldn't find Moritz claiming miller in the last ~8 months

This is honestly a little surprising to me. Like I couldn't remember TMor claiming Miller personally, but TMor has often claimed the wildest poo poo so I figured Miller (true or not) probably had to be there somewhere.

Good on Sand for checking.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

fool of sound posted:

I don't really think that jokeclaims early in day 1 are policy vote territory lol.

##vote FoS

When fool flips scum we chain-flip Keats, gottem.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
Besides if we're policy voting on bad info, I still think the weird "masonlet" nonsense is way more compelling.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

CubicalSucrose posted:

##vote FoS

When fool flips scum we chain-flip Keats, gottem.

Brain genius poo poo here

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

fool of sound posted:

I don't really think that jokeclaims early in day 1 are policy vote territory lol.

I don't think it was a particularly clear jokeclaim, tbh.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

I don't think it's worth a policy vote and I don't think it's a sign of anything either way, but I do think there's a difference between a clear joke claim and not - Keats could walk his claim either way he wants.

Zoya
Jun 12, 2023

echoes of a distant past,
bodies die but voices last.
once were held within a cell,
your mind is where these voices dwell.




fool of sound posted:

Besides if we're policy voting on bad info, I still think the weird "masonlet" nonsense is way more compelling.

the more people refuse to acknowledge that this was just a misunderstanding of terminology tmor used that they were unfamiliar with the less genuine the argument seems

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


CCKeane posted:

Absolutely nowhere else and my heart is notoriously small but you have a little space in the universe.

That’s enough for me <3

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


Keats might be busy with his game starting but I will say the big opening followed by dropping off completely is classic scum!Keats

Maerlyn
Jun 29, 2003

Everything at once
the evil step-son

This av has been socialized, viva la Revolución

CCKeane posted:

So to be clear, you are voting me, because I said I would vote TM, but weren't going to rush into anything, even though I have the earliest vote on TM.

It's only day 1 so grain of salt and all that, but this feels a bit forced:

TM claims miller, response:

CCKeane posted:

This is a scum post maybe.

##vote: Tired Moritz

CCKeane posted:

I'd vote Moritz yeah.

More so this part which is a reply to Sand saying his vote on TM was legit, possibly based on an inaccurate memory... Feels from you like just a light hop on with no real effort/meaning behind it.

You also dismissed Zoya's gambit post which I liked, shooting down what could be accurate (too soon to say):


Zoya posted:


claims cannot be masoned:
  • cube

does not claim a masonizable state:
  • keats
  • wolo
  • cckeane
  • fool of sound
  • hambeet

has not posted, might not know he's in this game:
  • hal

with the conditions i listed, i don't think scum would risk speaking up to claim they can be masoned by me, unless they simply planned to kill me tonight so i couldn't report back.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
Schwinee, you were literally in a game where cube fake claimed as a miller wtf why are you tunnelling me so badly

wologar
Feb 11, 2014

Keane is funny and doesn't play too often. Too bad he's scum.

wologar
Feb 11, 2014

Tired Moritz posted:

Schwinee, you were literally in a game where cube fake claimed as a miller wtf why are you tunnelling me so badly

One time shwinn rolled a die in his confessional to see who he would tunnel D1.

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

Maerlyn posted:

It's only day 1 so grain of salt and all that, but this feels a bit forced:

TM claims miller, response:



More so this part which is a reply to Sand saying his vote on TM was legit, possibly based on an inaccurate memory... Feels from you like just a light hop on with no real effort/meaning behind it.

You also dismissed Zoya's gambit post which I liked, shooting down what could be accurate (too soon to say):

This feels different from what you said, which was:

Maerlyn posted:

I think I want to vote one of the TM voters or someone who said they would vote TM but weren't going to rush into anything. That last bit is especially scummy to me, so fool of sound or keane may be good choices there.

##vote Keane

I already had a vote on Moritz! Before Sandwolf discussed! I can find things suspicious or scummy independently of cases that come after my vote, in fact, I am compelled to because I am a normal human and not a 4 dimensional collection of energy signatures that constantly oscillates in the space between this moment and next.

Zoya
Jun 12, 2023

echoes of a distant past,
bodies die but voices last.
once were held within a cell,
your mind is where these voices dwell.




CCKeane posted:

in fact, I am compelled to because I am a normal human

weird flavor claim in this game, tbh. i'm a very hairy alien life form with an enormous schnozz and an alluring form, personally

wologar
Feb 11, 2014

Would also vote Zoya just to stop the Alf obscenity.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


Tired Moritz posted:

Schwinee, you were literally in a game where cube fake claimed as a miller wtf why are you tunnelling me so badly

because you’re behaving oddly even if my statement was inaccurate, you’re very fixated on the people who think you’re scummy. More interested in defending self/removing suspicion than finding/pointing out scum

Zoya
Jun 12, 2023

echoes of a distant past,
bodies die but voices last.
once were held within a cell,
your mind is where these voices dwell.




wologar posted:

Would also vote Zoya just to stop the Alf obscenity.

you can't be rid of alf that easily, old chum! i'll simply spend tens of dollars to keep changing peoples avis into various alf fanart if this happens!

wologar
Feb 11, 2014

Zoya posted:

you can't be rid of alf that easily, old chum! i'll simply spend tens of dollars to keep changing peoples avis into various alf fanart if this happens!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZERfeh7n4Q

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)

Sandwolf posted:

because you’re behaving oddly even if my statement was inaccurate, you’re very fixated on the people who think you’re scummy. More interested in defending self/removing suspicion than finding/pointing out scum

Because people are calling me scummy based on obvious lies. Mmm, right, Sandwolf?

Zoya
Jun 12, 2023

echoes of a distant past,
bodies die but voices last.
once were held within a cell,
your mind is where these voices dwell.





wologar has been added to my "will note vote D1" list

Zoya
Jun 12, 2023

echoes of a distant past,
bodies die but voices last.
once were held within a cell,
your mind is where these voices dwell.




not*

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


Tired Moritz posted:

Because people are calling me scummy based on obvious lies. Mmm, right, Sandwolf?

I already reneged on my “thinking you’re scummy cuz of the Miller claim” that’s not really up for debate, you were right on that, but your tone is *bad* you still seem more interested in dispelling suspicion on you.

For example, you seem to be hinting that I’ve acted nefariously, but won’t actually come out and call me scum. Same with Shwin, who you also throw shade on but won’t call scummy.

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Tired Moritz posted:

Because people are calling me scummy based on obvious lies. Mmm, right, Sandwolf?

Yeah but usually you are just like "you guys all suck" and go back to Moritzing, you are a bit more focused on it this game

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Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Sandwolf posted:

I already reneged on my “thinking you’re scummy cuz of the Miller claim” that’s not really up for debate, you were right on that, but your tone is *bad* you still seem more interested in dispelling suspicion on you.

For example, you seem to be hinting that I’ve acted nefariously, but won’t actually come out and call me scum. Same with Shwin, who you also throw shade on but won’t call scummy.

Yeah, this!

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