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OOC: I just finished a lumber run at work and we're having some electrical problems at one of our other locations so based on the dance partner thing I'm going to park a vote on RWC for now but hopefully will be around a bit more later before deadline ##vote RWC
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Sandwolf posted:No. I should have been untargetable on N1. I can’t hide every night. Yea, mycelia stole your hide on n2. Why are you pretending not to get this if you are town
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Grandicap posted:I exist, just dealing with life stuff at the moment. I’d vote Rwc if you people truly won’t vote sand ##vote rwc
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Sandwolf posted:No. I should have been untargetable on N1. I can’t hide every night. It’s unclear to me if the pirate would be affected by hiding since they just dig up a garden and don’t actually steal a thing from the person. At least it wasn’t clear to me from the description
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Nov 3, 2023 17:49
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shwinnebego posted:Yea, mycelia stole your hide on n2. Yeah also it’s kind of a moot point because of this
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Nov 3, 2023 17:50
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I have the usual tingles when people jump on a vote right after me Ughhh
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Nov 3, 2023 17:50
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shwinnebego posted:I’d vote Rwc if you people truly won’t vote sand Why are you voting the person who ostensibly, and without prompting, claimed to confirm you?
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Nov 3, 2023 17:51
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That's -1 on RwC. I still would rather go Shwinn I think because if town then RwC can (probably) clear themselves with their gossiping.
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Nov 3, 2023 17:58
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##vote shwinn
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Nov 3, 2023 18:07
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They’re both now -1 and only Grandi hasn’t voted
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Hal and Phantom? If I survive, who wants my results from tonight (while I am sitting home alone)? Not sending them to Hal
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Nov 3, 2023 18:22
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Rhymes With Clue posted:Hal and Phantom? Cube or I
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Nov 3, 2023 18:23
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I would deem it acceptable to alter my vote back to Shwinn. The RWC/Grandi dance partner issue is suspicious to me, but not so much so that my feelings about Shwinn have diminished.
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Nov 3, 2023 18:27
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PhantomMuzzles posted:OOC: I just finished a lumber run at work and we're having some electrical problems at one of our other locations so based on the dance partner thing I'm going to park a vote on RWC for now but hopefully will be around a bit more later before deadline The dance partner thing? Seriously?
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Rhymes With Clue posted:The dance partner thing? Seriously? Yes. I presented valid concerns and they were not addressed by either of you. I fail to understand why I wouldn't vote based off that, given that I have not concrete evidence against anyone at this juncture.
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Nov 3, 2023 18:33
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Votecount for Day 4  shwinnebego (3): Grandicap, PhantomMuzzles, CubicalSucrose, Rhymes With Clue (3): Hal Incandenza, PhantomMuzzles, shwinnebego CubicalSucrose (0): Rhymes With Clue, Sandwolf (0): shwinnebego, Not Voting (1): GrandicapWith 7 alive, it's 4 votes to execute. The current deadline is November 03rd, 2023 at 10 p.m. CET -- that's in about 3 hours, 16 minutes.
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Sandwolf posted:Why are you voting the person who ostensibly, and without prompting, claimed to confirm you? Cuz I don’t wanna no elim and no one is going for my first or second choices OMG STOP PRETENDING YOU CAN’T READ OR REASON ##vote scumwolf
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Nov 3, 2023 18:48
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((the caps are not indicative of being irl mad or anything i'm just in-game bashing my in-game head against a wall because scumwolf is so irretrievably scummy this game))
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i'm not very available till deadline i will try to check in but i implore you all to vote sandwolf, he is so loving scummy
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Like, I don’t even argue I’ve done some scummy things this game, hasn’t been my greatest. Probably should have seen TMor as frustrated town doing inscrutable things. But irretrievably scummy feels like, too dramatic to be an accurate summation of your feelings imo
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Nov 3, 2023 18:50
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Just for you Shwin I’m gonna reread Meen and YPM and see if it implicated anyone else
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Rhymes With Clue posted:Hal and Phantom? Definitely don’t send them to me I’m sure you claimed but I’m lazy, do we have confirmation of your gossiping every night but last night?
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Hal Incandenza posted:Definitely don’t send them to me I think we only have it for one night and it was confirmed by shwinn. Oh, because that night wologar stole the results (but eventually sent them to me).
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YPM never mentions RWC. They do push a little towards Shwin, but it doesn’t look too too committed. Notably they also throw shade at Iggy later on. One post about Grandi/Hal really:Your Personal Muse posted:I’ll tell you what, I’d do some red neck downlow investigation Hal because I never know what that son of a heel is up to
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Meen has even less but also never mentions RWC, very little mentions of Shwin. Some sincere pushing of Hal, so Hal is basically clear for me. This has been a fun experiment and I’m back to RWC/Shwin, though this reread has made me feel slightly worse about RWC
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Nov 3, 2023 19:29
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A little less than 2 hours left, I will not trust myself to trust myself to check in before deadline so ##vote shwinn Sorry to suck, unless I'm right then gently caress yeah!
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 Everyone stop posting, shwinnebego just got hammered and the mod's probably AFK!Votecount for Day 4 shwinnebego (4): Grandicap, PhantomMuzzles, CubicalSucrose, Rhymes With Clue (2): Hal Incandenza, PhantomMuzzles, shwinnebego, Sandwolf (1): shwinnebego, CubicalSucrose (0): Rhymes With Clue, Not Voting (0): With 7 alive, it's 4 votes to execute. The current deadline is November 03rd, 2023 at 10 p.m. CET -- that's in about 1 hour, 35 minutes.
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The ball! The night was finally here, and though the house party had dwindled to less than half its original numbers, Lady Vienna was determined to see it out. The house guests argued amongst themselves over dance partners, over whose dress was least appropriate, over who had stolen who's shoe-roses. Finally it was decided: shwinnebago had been far too mopey for this particular festivity. He had spent too long mourning the dead and not nearly enough time being sociable. It didn't matter that he had already arranged a dance partner for the evening -- shwinn simply had to go. shwinnebago, Captain Benwick, TOWN-aligned Mourner was escorted out of the party d4! quote:"You cannot know the depth of my despair. Phoebe would have married me before I went to sea, but I told her - I told her we should wait for money. Money!" Lady Vienna drew herself up. "Mme Clotilde," she said graciously, "would you do me the honour of favouring me with the first dance?" What's a ball without a little scandal?  It is now n4! Please enjoy the Ball, or sit alone in your room if you have failed to find a partner!
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The much beleagured Lady Vienna Spencer Ball had finally taken place, albeit with far fewer guests than anticipated. But there were many lovely couples dancing together, and the white soup had been exquisite, and that meant the ball had been a resounding success, as was all that mattered. The day after a ball was always a tiring sort of day, especially if one was the type to imbibe heavily of the refreshments, which Lady Vienna Spencer was. Truth be told, she imbibed heavily on nights that didn't contain balls, but allow the narrator to say that during festive occasions, she overindulged to an increased degree. Which is to say that the Lady Vienna Spencer was still in her room, in her dressing gown, with a damp cloth resting over her eyes, at an hour far later than her guests might have anticipated. When a scream once more ripped through the air, she huffed. "Find whomever that is and fire her," she announced to the room around her. She wasn't actually sure if any of the servants (or her poor companion) were still in the room, but -- surely someone would hear her? Look, she was indisposed, all right? Couldn't this wait until later? Sadly not, because there was, of course, another dead body. RhymesWithClue, Mrs. Jennings, TOWN-aligned Gossipy Voyeur has been strangled n4! quote:Mrs. Jennings was a widow, with an ample jointure. She had only two daughters, both of whom she had lived to see respectably married, and she had now therefore nothing to do but to marry all the rest of the world. In due time, Mr. Voodrum Fly was dispatched to dispose of the remains. One wonders if he was beginning to regret his place of employment ...  It is now Day Five! All Ball masonries have been CLOSED!
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Votecount for Day 5 Not Voting (5): CubicalSucrose, Grandicap, Hal Incandenza, PhantomMuzzles, Sandwolf With 5 alive, it's 3 votes to execute. The current deadline is November 06th, 2023 at 10 p.m. CET -- that's in about 1 day, 23 hours.
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Heavens. I retired for the evening feeling fairly confident that RWC and Grandi were the wicked ones still in our midst. If I'm honest, I am still fairly suspicious on Grandi, despite the fact that they are a marvelous dancer.
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RWC visited Grandi last night, no one performed any actions on Grandi. Grandi or Hal for me today. Probably Grandi
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It's mess up and lose, right? So probably a bad idea to make any votes right now. I basically reread the entire game last night and have a few thoughts about where we're at. Summarized version, vs. my where I was yesterday. High-level: Hal looks scummier. Grandi looks scummier but awkward. PMuzz looks townier but not a great townPMuzz baseline. Sand looks scummier but is either town or has concocted a pretty wild story over the role selection shenanigans that have been coming out in bits and pieces. I wasn't able to mechanically clear anyone. I wasn't even able to mechanically clear any PAIRS of people to narrow it down. Except that based on yesterday's votes, it probably wasn't exactly PMuzz + RwC (not helpful anymore, I know).
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As Grandi and I strode to the dance floor, I told Grandi that I thought they were a wicked person, but that we can still have a lovely dance. They did not even attempt to deny my suspicions. They merely said "That's cool. I have played like poo poo, I expect to die for it." If this were a different day, I would have cast my ballot already. However, after being mistaken about both Shwinn and RWC, I am not discounting the possibility that the wicked pair is Hal/Cube or Hal/Sandwolf. It seems less likely to me that it is Cube/Sandwolf because I find it unlikely they would have chosen to dance together.
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Masonry details: Sand requested the masonry privately pretty early in the day yesterday. Not AS immediate as the others, but it was right away. I asked the mods a shitload of questions about how the masonry pairings would work, tried to see if Grandi had been holding anything back and wanted to signal, and then eventually accepted Sand's invite after what felt like a reasonable amount of time had passed. Some quick back and forth right when masonry opened, general dissatisfaction, NAI. A few hours later, I reread everyone alive and tried to see what popped up, writing thoughts as I went through it. Wasn't any back and forth, just me typing away. Sand popped back in this morning, sounds like there were some Discord issues? I'm just going to take that as true, though there was chessMaf where scumSand didn't shy away from there being VF issues. One of the topics I brought up around my reread was Sand's Hider role choice and some comments they've made about that. I got a story about not reading the OP (fully believable), did submit numbers, didn't submit roles, got auto-assigned, maybe some mod friction. Based on their posts about role selection, especially the ones with TMor, I think that this could very well have been what happened. Scumbuds would've pinged Sand to submit, I think, so this is why I'm thinking Sand is town. Before last night, my biggest "Sand is town" case was the Hider selection, and this info basically nullifies that. So now it's a question of "Does this story make enough sense?" and I'm not sure. There's also like, the case Shwinn was making on Sand, all of which still holds true I think. Well, I don't fault Sand for the TMor mis-elim as much as Shwinn did. Sand, if town, has had a pretty rough game.
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Hal - Tricky read here and I went from "Scummy -> Townie" after early game, but now that we're here I'm back to "Pretty reasonably could be scum." The case on Hal being town, I think, is something like "If Hal were scum and picked PGO, then they definitely wouldn't insta-claim, because if you're a scum PGO you can get bonus kills." Which sounds sensible on paper, yeah? Why would scum pass up that opportunity and instead insta-claim? Well, given the draft nature of WIFOA, Hal can very reasonably be forced to claim PGO, if anyone in the #2-#5ish slot says "Hey by the way, one of the people above me is a PGO." There's no real way of knowing if that'll happen. So even if you're scum and picked PGO first (great place to pick it), then you STILL probably have to be prepared to claim early. And rather than rolling the dice on being forced to claim, it's not unreasonable to try and get ahead of it all with an insta-claim. HOWEVER! If it is Hal who is a scum PGO, then they're also a bomb, which means that best-case today voting out Hal, we go from 3 / 2 down to 2 / 1 and the NK cleans things up for scum. Which is...basically the point I made D1. The fact that we didn't vote out Hal early means we're committed to keeping them around until endgame / tomorrow.
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CubicalSucrose posted:Hal - Tricky read here and I went from "Scummy -> Townie" after early game, but now that we're here I'm back to "Pretty reasonably could be scum." tl;dr I DON'T THINK WE CAN VOTE HAL TODAY.
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PMuzz - Heavy RP since the start of the game, heavily breadcrumbing Vanilla since the start of the game. Posts seem "pretty reasonable" overall, had some reads, had a couple full-read lists. PMuzz has been in four completed games on SA. 1) Harry and the Hendersons, 1st game, town, pretty low-power game, ignoring it basically. 2) Keats' Stalker game, scum. 3) Dang Roombas, double-scum. 4) HCT's "Everyone but Cube is a Bounty Hunter," town. So I went through that fourth game to see if I could get a baseline on town play. And...seems pretty similar to their posts this game. They were the first Vanilla flavor claim, out of 3 total. So I'm heavily inclined to believe they're Vanilla. Less clear if they're scum or not. Actually, the hesitation yesterday on RwC vs. Shwinn yesterday is kinda interesting. I think I would expect scumPMuzz to hammer Shwinn instead of sticking on RwC for so long? They were posting about being willing to move over. Would really love to hear from Grandi about masonry details.
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Grandi - Pretty disengaged, which seems weird. They've got like 2 pages of posts and the first page is all from D1. The big thing that stuck out to me was the hard defense on Hal being town D1. In light of my "Actually Hal could be scum," Grandi now looks a bit worse in retrospect. Was ready with a third Vanilla name basically immediately, when I pushed on them. Which leans Vanilla-for-real. Didn't try to signal me at all with the mason invite, so also leaning Vanilla-for-real (plus like, last in the pick order). Hammered Shwinn over RwC, not sure if there's anything to make out of that. Would love to hear Grandi's take on masonry discussions last night, but I think I'm leaning Grandi today.
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