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PREVIOUSLY, on a very special day of "Previously On..." --- An early Hammer almost results in another awkward resolution!quote:Player TMor quote:Player Mycelia TMor and Mycelia have been eliminated. Bad Logic: Maug Good Logic: Nat It is now N6. About 24 hours for night actions, please.
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PREVIOUSLY, on a very special night of "Previously On..." --- The most powerful role ever created was eliminated. If only they had picked "Sonic 3 & Knuckles."quote:`Player Nat It's now D7. Deadline in 54 hours.
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Nov 20, 2023 19:03
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Votecount for Day 7 Not Voting (4): Bifauxnen, Hal Incandenza, Johnny Keats, MaugrimWith 4 alive, it's 3 votes to execute. The current deadline is November 22nd, 2023 at 6 p.m. CST -- that's in about 2 days, 5 hours.
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Nov 20, 2023 19:04
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There should be 2 scum left. Why hasn't the day ended?
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Nov 20, 2023 19:07
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18-21: 3-5 scum, 1-2 3P, rest town Ah. Guess I misread that. 4 scum then.
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Nov 20, 2023 19:08
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I'm 90% sure the final scum is Bif, folks. Sorry for being pocketed the entire game, lol ##vote Bif
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Nov 20, 2023 19:09
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I suppose I should explain. After myc flipped I've been sus on Bif as the two of them have, in masonry, been happily going along with my read that both of them were town. All this time I've been assuming there were 5 scum total, due to misreading the OP, and everyone else in thread has seemed to be doing so too. And neither mycelia nor Bif ever pointed out this error of mine in the masonry. And yet, during the night, Bif begins apparently earnestly doing rereads and deductions to try and determine which of Hal and Keats is the remaining scum. Which confuses me for obvious reasons, but it's now clear that she knew there was exactly one scum left and forgot that I didn't. Sorry Bif (extra sorry if I'm wrong, but I don't think I am)
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Nov 20, 2023 19:24
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So my understanding is that it has to be Bif if Maugrim is mod-confirmed and we don't believe Hal outed his scumbud at the nightkill, which I don't believe.
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Nov 20, 2023 19:26
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Also TMor's flip made me think he was an actual SK for a second and my read on the game did a backflip
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Nov 20, 2023 19:27
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Obviously my preference is bif
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Nov 20, 2023 19:57
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Maugrim posted:I'm 90% sure the final scum is Bif, folks. Sorry for being pocketed the entire game, lol Well at least I don't get to take the blame for scrwing up endgame
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Nov 20, 2023 20:04
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Johnny Keats posted:Also TMor's flip made me think he was an actual SK for a second and my read on the game did a backflip He definitely held some info back too, typical TM!
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Nov 20, 2023 20:04
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Bifauxnen posted:Well at least I don't get to take the blame for scrwing up endgame Well it’s between you and Keats for me, convince me why it isn’t you
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Nov 20, 2023 20:07
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Maugrim posted:And yet, during the night, Bif begins apparently earnestly doing rereads and deductions to try and determine which of Hal and Keats is the remaining scum. Which confuses me for obvious reasons, but it's now clear that she knew there was exactly one scum left and forgot that I didn't. I didn't think so until the game wasn't over. I thought Nat would still dodge the kills and you would be dead instead.
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Nov 20, 2023 20:07
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Hal Incandenza posted:Well it’s between you and Keats for me, convince me why it isn’t you Well if you're scum I can't convince you, and I'm pretty worried you're scum since I still don't actually have any clue how I appeared in your list. But if you're town, look back at when I was first suspicious of Mycelia. I'd been feeling like HCT and all his "Mycelias tracking is genuine though!!" Was what convinced me to drop it but looking back, Maugrim and Keats were the first to push back against it. (Before your list completely distracted everyone elsewhere anyway) And it can't be Maugrim.
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Nov 20, 2023 20:10
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I'd also ask you to reread the day Iggy and Nep died, which you were absent for, and read my participation versus Keats.
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Nov 20, 2023 20:11
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Some of my other thoughts though, I literally can't say.
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Nov 20, 2023 20:19
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Bifauxnen posted:I'd also ask you to reread the day Iggy and Nep died, which you were absent for, and read my participation versus Keats. Reading that back the defense of Nep and Iggy sounds like a lot of white knighting. Probably biased because I strongly think you're the last scum, but just saying.
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Nov 20, 2023 20:22
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I was waiting for you to show up and maybe convince me on Hal, but I don't think there's a reason not to put Bif at -1 right now ##Vote Bif
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Nov 20, 2023 20:24
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Johnny Keats posted:Reading that back the defense of Nep and Iggy sounds like a lot of white knighting. Probably biased because I strongly think you're the last scum, but just saying. And your posts then lookee like a lot of lame excuses to switch your brain off and not listen to anybody while you camped there. Too bad Toal and Opop sounded the same.
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Nov 20, 2023 20:24
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Johnny Keats posted:I was waiting for you to show up and maybe convince me on Hal, but I don't think there's a reason not to put Bif at -1 right now ##Vote Bif I hope it is Hal and he wins off one stupid lie that everyone blindly believes.
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Nov 20, 2023 20:25
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Johnny Keats posted:I was waiting for you to show up and maybe convince me on Hal, but I don't think there's a reason not to put Bif at -1 right now ##Vote Bif Lol sounding so obtuse again, you "don't think there's a reason"? Can't think of one at all no matter what possibilities you can imagine? The reason is I'm town.
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Nov 20, 2023 20:26
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##Unvote Okay make your case that Hal is scum
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Nov 20, 2023 20:28
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Johnny Keats posted:##Unvote Okay make your case that Hal is scum Even if you were scum, it still doesn't explain how I ended up in Hal's list. I think maybe he threw me in there so he could get hardbus cred while still having a chance at it just blowing me up first. Actually, I'd ask you why you think me and Josef were both on that kill in the first place if I'm scum? Or making that kill to begin with? As Iggy pointed out, I was aware of his role (well, only after he said so and that prompted me to go look it up, but that was early on)
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Nov 20, 2023 20:32
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##unvote want to check something but won't have the chance to do so for a couple of hours
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Nov 20, 2023 20:35
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I thought you appearing was just because of the bad luck poo poo that you can't talk about, and doesn't factor inti my read on either of you. Should it? Are you allowed to say something to the effect of "It's impossible for my role to have worked that way"?
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Nov 20, 2023 20:37
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Johnny Keats posted:I thought you appearing was just because of the bad luck poo poo that you can't talk about, and doesn't factor inti my read on either of you. Should it? Are you allowed to say something to the effect of "It's impossible for my role to have worked that way"? I'm not sure how much I should stretch things, but I seriously have no clue in this case. And it still feels sus to me overall.
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Nov 20, 2023 20:39
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Bifauxnen posted:I'd also ask you to reread the day Iggy and Nep died, which you were absent for, and read my participation versus Keats. Ok listen you keep saying this, I wasn’t absent for the whole day, but yes I wasn’t around for deadline which is in the middle of my work day. You keep trying to make is sound more nefarious and it certainly doesn’t help my read of you
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Nov 20, 2023 20:51
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Bifauxnen posted:I'm not sure how much I should stretch things, but I seriously have no clue in this case. And it still feels sus to me overall. Hrm that’s still vague but I haven’t seen any other explanation for why’d you show up in that list. And it’s a pretty big stretch to come up with a theory that I made up one fake result and it was on you to maybe get you killed before JS. Like you would not be on my list to fake a result on, I wouldn’t want to open up that can of worms. And the part about not killing Iggy because you know his role isn’t really meaningful since scum definitely tried to kill Iggy and presumably knew his role.
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Nov 20, 2023 20:55
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Hal Incandenza posted:Ok listen you keep saying this, I wasn’t absent for the whole day, but yes I wasn’t around for deadline which is in the middle of my work day. You keep trying to make is sound more nefarious and it certainly doesn’t help my read of you Part of it is I do want to make sure you actually go back and read it. And why didn't you even leave a vote down or anything?
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Nov 20, 2023 20:59
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Hal Incandenza posted:Hrm that’s still vague but I haven’t seen any other explanation for why’d you show up in that list. And it’s a pretty big stretch to come up with a theory that I made up one fake result and it was on you to maybe get you killed before JS. Like you would not be on my list to fake a result on, I wouldn’t want to open up that can of worms. I don't care if no one listens to this part, cause no one should prolly let "well if I was scum, I'd do..." arguments sway them, but just as a matter of personal pride I want to point out for posterity that I would not do something so pointless and stupid as risking exposure of (multiple!) scum visits on a kill that was mechanically meaningless.
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Nov 20, 2023 21:02
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Bifauxnen posted:I don't care if no one listens to this part, cause no one should prolly let "well if I was scum, I'd do..." arguments sway them, but just as a matter of personal pride I want to point out for posterity that I would not do something so pointless and stupid as risking exposure of (multiple!) scum visits on a kill that was mechanically meaningless. To be frank I don’t even think you necessarily visited the kill, and that’s not where my suspicion comes from. It’s how you immediately reacted and aggressively tried to paint me as scum trying to fake a result on you, as opposed to going with the thought there was another action confusing the results. Going after me seems like a page out of the scum bif playbook. I’ll go back and reread the Nep/Iggy day when I get back home though. You’ve perhaps created a sliver of doubt in my mind
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Nov 20, 2023 21:22
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Hal Incandenza posted:To be frank I don’t even think you necessarily visited the kill, and that’s not where my suspicion comes from. I did think there could easily be another action confusing the results, but as more and more people flip I see less and less how it could have happened. At the time, your piecemeal revealing sure didn't help my opinion of you either. I'm staying firmly out of voting though until I've reviewed everything and found myself still alive. I'm not at all confident in one of you over the other.
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Nov 20, 2023 21:35
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To rule out one paranoid avenue, I've finished looking properly through Keats' other games. I couldn't find something else that would've sneakily still allowed him to "challenge" anyone. That had always bothered me how his "welp I'm confirmed now" deal afterwards felt a bit performative, but if it's true he'd want to establish that too.
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Nov 20, 2023 22:03
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Going to work now so won't be able to respond as quick or do more in-depth reading for a while, but I'll be here.
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Nov 20, 2023 22:05
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For me it's just process of elimination based on whether or not I believe the Hal/Josef thing was a bus. If it wasn't, Bif has to be scum by process of elimination. I started writing this post intending to be like "there's no way it was a bus" but now I'm 2nd guessing it lol
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Nov 20, 2023 22:15
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Josef had already been outed as a votebomb, so scum would have already had no way of benefiting from that. But no, because if they had just waited one day and killed TM first, then that wouldn't have mattered. Unless they just thought a vig would kill him? Ugh
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Nov 20, 2023 22:18
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One quick thing while I start to look back over D1:Hal Incandenza posted:Hello friends, I may not have picked the best role in the end… This was your first post after game open, Hal. What did you mean by this? Was it a joke I don't get? Trying to just keep scum off your tail from knowing you had something useful?
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Nov 20, 2023 23:21
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Bifauxnen posted:One quick thing while I start to look back over D1: My role was and is not all that useful though! As I’ve said, it was (like many roles in this game) much more interesting as a scum role and in the context of the game it came from. Here it translated into town godfather with a chance at an (admittedly cool) one-shot power that I had to openly campaign for in the thread leaving me open to being blocked/murdered. Was it the worst role possible? No, but out of the 600+ roles I had to draw from it probably wasn’t the most inspired choice.
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