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I think we're missing the real point of D1, which is that beet isn't going to shoot after claiming a dayvig.
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# ? Feb 17, 2025 17:23 |
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Yeah that sounds pretty dodgy if true. Anyway, I'm still only really half paying attention rn - am I understanding it correctly that cube just always claims doc?
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Johnny Keats posted:It's not a meta case, it's based on cross-game behavior yes that is why I'm annoyed if Cube is actually scum leveraging his flip in an active game for an advantage You don’t seem annoyed at all tbh, and aren’t you the one who brought it up?
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Johnny Keats posted:So in my opinion we should consider Cube's claim in context of the other game (which would break community ethos), or disregard any cred Cube can get for claiming doc. So let's do the 2nd one It shouldn’t have been brought up at all tbh but sure, let’s do the latter. Maybe I misread your intention somewhere.
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Yami Fenrir posted:Yeah that sounds pretty dodgy if true. He always claims it WHEN HE IS ONE. That's the important part. If he is lying this time it would be breaking the pattern which has gone like 5 consecutive times Cube was a doc-adjacent role
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Johnny Keats posted:He always claims it WHEN HE IS ONE. That's the important part. If he is lying this time it would be breaking the pattern which has gone like 5 consecutive times Cube was a doc-adjacent role Well that’s just meta and idk why another current game needed to be invoked
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hambeet posted:It shouldn’t have been brought up at all tbh but sure, let’s do the latter. Maybe I misread your intention somewhere. Just because Cube has mentioned it in earlier, closed games, doesn't mean it would have been a given that people pick up on that breadcrumb. In context of a certain other game happening right now that shares a lot of players with this game, the opposite can be assumed to be true. That is highly relevant to this game. I understand that to maintain his pattern, Cube would have to post that if he rolled doc. However by doing so, he made knowledge of the other ongoing game necessary information for this game. Cube could have elaborated to make this thread stand-alone but he chose not to
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CubicalSucrose posted:I think we're missing the real point of D1, which is that beet isn't going to shoot after claiming a dayvig. And I think you’re missing the point that you’re the only one seemingly bothered by this possibility and haven’t explained why. Aside from the, what was it again? Scum Ninja?
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hambeet posted:And I think you’re missing the point that you’re the only one seemingly bothered by this possibility and haven’t explained why. At first I was broadly curious. Now I think I'm trying to figure out who is going to be the person who actually shoots me.
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Johnny Keats posted:He always claims it WHEN HE IS ONE. That's the important part. If he is lying this time it would be breaking the pattern which has gone like 5 consecutive times Cube was a doc-adjacent role Johnny Keats posted:Just because Cube has mentioned it in earlier, closed games, doesn't mean it would have been a given that people pick up on that breadcrumb. In context of a certain other game happening right now that shares a lot of players with this game, the opposite can be assumed to be true. That is highly relevant to this game. Okay, that makes more sense. I'm still not entirely sure if you're trying to imply he's lying or not though.
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CubicalSucrose posted:I think we're missing the real point of D1, which is that beet isn't going to shoot after claiming a dayvig. Stop trying making it out to be this scummy thing. Real or not, people do content games all the time. I care a lot more about the reactions to the vig personally.
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Johnny Keats posted:He always claims it WHEN HE IS ONE. That's the important part. If he is lying this time it would be breaking the pattern which has gone like 5 consecutive times Cube was a doc-adjacent role See this doesn’t seem annoyed, this seems you really want us to be aware of the likelihood of him being a doctor adjacent based on meta and the next logical extension of that, to me, is that you don’t want us to kill cube today regardless of how much you’re wringing your hands about proper play.
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CubicalSucrose posted:At first I was broadly curious. Now I think I'm trying to figure out who is going to be the person who actually shoots me. These words at first glance look like they’re an answer to my question, but upon closer inspection one finds that they’re really not.
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hambeet posted:These words at first glance look like they’re an answer to my question, but upon closer inspection one finds that they’re really not. Interesting. Huh. Okay maybe I've been wrong.
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hambeet posted:I think I’m having a stroke If someone accusing someone else of lyling in a mafia game is causing a stroke, you might consider that perhaps your sensibilities are too delicate for this game! Conversely it could be a stroke of genius.
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JosefStalinator posted:Call 116! I couldn't possibly vote Stalin today after this post
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Yami Fenrir posted:Okay, that makes more sense. I'm still not entirely sure if you're trying to imply he's lying or not though. I think what Keats is trying to do is: make it absolutely clear to everyone (not just the people who picked up on the unfortunately overt breadcrumb) that I've softclaimed doc, or doc-adjacent (or, eventually, I'll do the same thing as a PGO). In this way, Keats is making sure that people pushing on me from that point on, or shooting me, or whatever, are doing so from a level-set position. So there can be no ambiguity in the future, when retroactive analysis comes back on "Well, they actively were voting a claimed doc (or doc-like, or plausible PGO), that's not a great look." This should probably be interpreted as non-alignment-indicative for Keats' play.
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Yami Fenrir posted:Okay, that makes more sense. I'm still not entirely sure if you're trying to imply he's lying or not though. Yeah and that’s is my point, I don’t like the feeling I am getting about how Keats is kind of dangling this idea in thread but also kind of casting doubt on it. Oh but it would break the pattern if he was lying this time, etc. It seems to be of benefit to cube, more than anything else.
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CubicalSucrose posted:Interesting. Huh. Okay maybe I've been wrong. I think you’re doing this deliberately now.
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Rhymes With Clue posted:If someone accusing someone else of lyling in a mafia game is causing a stroke, you might consider that perhaps your sensibilities are too delicate for this game! No it’s the part about the game being inspired and unvoting someone you’re still calling a liar that seems to not make sense.
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And that was in addition to Keats posting up until that point, not solely your post.
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hambeet posted:No it’s the part about the game being inspired and unvoting someone you’re still calling a liar that seems to not make sense. Ooh I said why I was unvoting him. If he was the inspiration for the game, or half of it, or the spark or whatever, it seems kinda shady to try to vote him out D1. He is not the only scum.
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CubicalSucrose posted:I think what Keats is trying to do is: make it absolutely clear to everyone (not just the people who picked up on the unfortunately overt breadcrumb) that I've softclaimed doc, or doc-adjacent (or, eventually, I'll do the same thing as a PGO). just pretend I’ve circled this post with a marker about a bazillion times.
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I'm not calling Cube out for bad faith play btw, although it *would* annoy me if he is scum playing this angle because of the unavoidable consequences of not being able to discuss active games, but I don't think scum Cube did that willingly even if he is
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However, because I can imagine feasible scenarios where Cube is lying this time, and discussing the nuance would be too confusing in vague terms, I'm going to ignore that Cube claimed doc. ##Vote Cube
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My assessment of this day: hambeet said he had a dayvig, Cube seems bent on getting beet to use it. On him. Wologar leapt and was caught by three players. Cube made a subtle claim that pretty much seemed aimed at folks who were also playing another game with him. Stalinator begged people to sing opera so he could get their abilities. I may have been skimming. I am certainly not going to go looking into other games.
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CubicalSucrose posted:I think we're missing the real point of D1, which is that beet isn't going to shoot after claiming a dayvig. It is still day 1. Not everybody makes their shot with their first post.
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I think we’re missing the point that cube wants to shade me for claiming a dayvig d1, and yet immediately owns up to their bread crumbing of a doc or doc adjacent claim.
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hambeet posted:I think we’re missing the point that cube wants to shade me for claiming a dayvig d1, and yet immediately owns up to their bread crumbing of a doc or doc adjacent claim. lol if you are actually a scum ninja and I wind up Galaxy Frontier'd. I would laugh so hard.
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Rhymes With Clue posted:Ooh I said why I was unvoting him. If he was the inspiration for the game, or half of it, or the spark or whatever, it seems kinda shady to try to vote him out D1. He is not the only scum. This is a bad argument and teeters on the edge of one scum bussing another teammate and then backing off
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CubicalSucrose posted:lol if you are actually a scum ninja and I wind up Galaxy Frontier'd. I would laugh so hard. The logic behind this theory didn’t even make sense the first time.
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Mr. Humalong posted:This is a bad argument and teeters on the edge of one scum bussing another teammate and then backing off It is an explanation, not an argument!
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People keep acting so weird around cube today and I'm not sure if I'm conflating it with scumminess or if they're actually just scum. Shwinn felt off, now RWC. Meh, I'll think about it more tomorrow.
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oh nvm, misunderstood re: rwc then
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When was the last scum Miller gambit? 15 players, kind of a gimmick game. No counterclaim yet, though it wouldn't be unreasonable to have two somehow. Hmm.
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Maybe I should shoot the person with the lowest post count prior to deadline.
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Huh please don't?
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Tired Moritz posted:Huh please don't? ![]()
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# ? Feb 17, 2025 17:23 |
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##vote cube
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