Time to get educational, it's Literally Villains Mafia!

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Rogue AI Goddess: May 10, 2012; I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees.
That was a joke... unless..?

Tired Moritz posted:

Not very useful tho tbh

Disappointment loves company.

# ? Feb 13, 2024 15:26

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# ? Jun 24, 2025 14:17

Your Personal Muse: Oct 5, 2010; what a cool dude

EGalz18 posted:

Tell me why? I think I agree with you, but Circl and I are still in the getting you know you phase

Well, part of it was the timing of this post:

CirclMastr posted:

I am going to have to re-read day 1. Later.

For reference, this was in the middle of the Super Bowl. So it read to me as incredibly self conscious and comes from a mindset where someone is more concerned about heading off potential votes than actual scum hunting.

Then? Nothing. Doesn�t come back with any thoughts, just continues to park a vote on Keats based on a joke:

Johnny Keats posted:

Ill post wheb it not super biwl

CirclMastr posted:

##vote Keats

About a day later:

CirclMastr posted:

I did re-read day 1 and my opinion on Keats didn't change, hence my vote is still there.

Except�

Circl didn�t mention Keats d1

And voted Keats based on a joke

It�s not real scumhunting.

# ? Feb 13, 2024 15:34

Rogue AI Goddess: May 10, 2012; I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees.
That was a joke... unless..?

PlasticAutomaton posted:

happy birthday to high Zoya's girlfriend

# ? Feb 13, 2024 15:36

wologar: Feb 11, 2014

Circl is always scum, so I can see it.

# ? Feb 13, 2024 15:37

wologar: Feb 11, 2014

Rogue, why did you choose Sandwolf as the target of your obsessive track?

# ? Feb 13, 2024 15:38

Your Personal Muse: Oct 5, 2010; what a cool dude

CirclMastr posted:

Zoya/Spork/EGalz?

Also note Circl throws out random scum reads which does not include Keats or Circl�s later scum read:

CirclMastr posted:

I am also suspicious of RWC and unable to read Sandwolf right now.

Probably forgot about posting those previous �reads�

# ? Feb 13, 2024 15:40

Rogue AI Goddess: May 10, 2012; I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees.
That was a joke... unless..?

wologar posted:

Rogue, why did you choose Sandwolf as the target of your obsessive track?

_{I wanted to confirm whether he and Obi-Wan were, in fact, the same person.}

# ? Feb 13, 2024 15:44

wologar: Feb 11, 2014

Rogue AI Goddess posted:

_{I wanted to confirm whether he and Obi-Wan were, in fact, the same person.}

Good use imo.

##vote Circl

# ? Feb 13, 2024 15:48

EGalz18: Aug 5, 2023; I LOVE WORDS. THAT'S ALL.

Rogue AI Goddess posted:

I had high expectations going into this, yet many of them brought me nothing but disappointment. We are still wandering around in the fog with nary a clue, and too many of us show no interest or ability to change that woeful state of things. If this was a book, this would be the time when I'd look up spoilers to see if it gets better at some point.

Yet all this despondency is dwarfed by the disappointment I feel towards one person in particular: Victor "False Advertisement And Queerbaiting" Hugo.

It turns out that, despite the name, Les Miserables is not a book about miserable lesbians! Rather, it's about some overzealous cop named Javert who unironically says "I am the law" and spends the entire plot chasing the same guy for stealing a loaf of bread (or something, I didn't read too deeply).

Anyway, now that my immersion is ruined forever, and given the earlier point about our clueless fog-wandering, I think it's a good moment to dispense with old flavorposting RP and bring some new information to the table:

1. My character is Javert from Les Miserables. Wikipedia describes him as "defined by his legalist tendencies and lack of empathy for criminals of all forms".

2. I am a Town-aligned tracker.

3. My extra gimmick, based on Javert's obsessive tendencies, is that I have to keep investigating the same person for multiple nights in a row.

4. Sandwolf did absolutely nothing on Night 1 and did so successfully. My attempt to determine this fact was also successful, and I will repeat it again tonight.

2 - 4 - 6 - Whoa - 1 way to play it, I suppose

# ? Feb 13, 2024 15:55

Rogue AI Goddess: May 10, 2012; I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees.
That was a joke... unless..?

One more thing, Tired Moritz.

You have read and responded to my post about Sandwolf's alibi, so why do you still have him targetted for elimination?

# ? Feb 13, 2024 15:58

CapitalistPig: Nov 3, 2005; A Winner is you!

I mean, that probably wasn't a good time to claim that tbh. I might have saved that until you saw someone go to the kill.

Sandwolf not going anywhere has no indicator on alignment.

Maybe he's a ninja.

Maybe he's a scum role that doesn't need to visit.

I believe Rogue's claim however, for whatever that's worth.

# ? Feb 13, 2024 16:21

CapitalistPig: Nov 3, 2005; A Winner is you!

That being said I think maybe circl is a better vote today.

##vote circl

# ? Feb 13, 2024 16:23

CirclMastr: Jul 4, 2010

Your Personal Muse posted:

Also note Circl throws out random scum reads which does not include Keats or Circl�s later scum read:

That was just spitballing to try to get discussion going.

# ? Feb 13, 2024 16:35

CirclMastr: Jul 4, 2010

I could claim or I could just do my thing.

##unvote

##vote YPM
##doublevote YPM

# ? Feb 13, 2024 16:36

Rogue AI Goddess: May 10, 2012; I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees.
That was a joke... unless..?

At this point, I do not see any obvious flaws in YPM's reasoning.

##vote CirclMastr

CapitalistPig posted:

I mean, that probably wasn't a good time to claim that tbh. I might have saved that until you saw someone go to the kill.

I see your point, but the target lock limitation means that I will likely get no new information for some time, and "Sandwolf continues to succeed at doing nothing" is not something that I expect to greatly appreciate in value.

# ? Feb 13, 2024 16:40

Your Personal Muse: Oct 5, 2010; what a cool dude

OMGUS is a good thing right?

# ? Feb 13, 2024 16:40

votefinder: Jul 6, 2010; scoop scoop

Votecount for Day 2

CirclMastr (4): Your Personal Muse, wologar, CapitalistPig, Rogue AI Goddess

Your Personal Muse (2): CirclMastr, CirclMastr

Sandwolf (2): SporkChan, Tired Moritz

SporkChan (1): Rhymes With Clue

PlasticAutomaton (1): Johnny Keats

AFancyQuestionMark (1): wologar, ~~wologar~~, PlasticAutomaton

Zoya (0): wologar, ~~wologar~~

Johnny Keats (0): wologar, CirclMastr, ~~wologar~~, ~~CirclMastr~~

CapitalistPig (0): Rogue AI Goddess, ~~Rogue AI Goddess~~

Not Voting (4): AFancyQuestionMark, EGalz18, Sandwolf, Zoya

With 14 alive, it's 8 votes to execute. The current deadline is February 13th, 2024 at 10 p.m. CET -- that's in about 5 hours, 19 minutes.

# ? Feb 13, 2024 16:40

CirclMastr: Jul 4, 2010

Your Personal Muse posted:

OMGUS is a good thing right?

The point is not "I think you are scum" the point is "Here is what I can do"

# ? Feb 13, 2024 16:41

CirclMastr: Jul 4, 2010

Anyway I'm basically vanilla town now so do whatever, I no longer care.

# ? Feb 13, 2024 16:41

Rogue AI Goddess: May 10, 2012; I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees.
That was a joke... unless..?

CirclMastr posted:

The point is not "I think you are scum" the point is "Here is what I can do"

A double vote rainbow... what does it mean?

# ? Feb 13, 2024 16:49

Tired Moritz: Mar 25, 2012; wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

_{_{(n o i c e)}}

Rogue AI Goddess posted:

One more thing, Tired Moritz.

You have read and responded to my post about Sandwolf's alibi, so why do you still have him targetted for elimination?

it just means they didnt do the NK

# ? Feb 13, 2024 16:53

Rogue AI Goddess: May 10, 2012; I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees.
That was a joke... unless..?

Tired Moritz posted:

it just means they didnt do the NK

Someone did, though.

Wouldn't it make more sense to vote for someone who had a nonzero chance of doing the NK last night rather than someone who had a zero chance to do it?

# ? Feb 13, 2024 17:07

Tired Moritz: Mar 25, 2012; wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

_{_{(n o i c e)}}

it was probably cube

what happens if your target dies. it might be good so you can actually track someone that will actually do night actions on the rego

# ? Feb 13, 2024 17:08

Rogue AI Goddess: May 10, 2012; I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees.
That was a joke... unless..?

...on that note, since Circlmaster has a confirmed day power of doublevoting, I take it as circumstantial evidence that they are less likely to have done the NK, either.

##unvote

# ? Feb 13, 2024 17:10

Rogue AI Goddess: May 10, 2012; I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees.
That was a joke... unless..?

Tired Moritz posted:

what happens if your target dies. it might be good so you can actually track someone that will actually do night actions on the rego

I will stop tracking my target if they die (or if I do). Even Javert eventually gave up the chase.

# ? Feb 13, 2024 17:11

SporkChan: Oct 20, 2010; One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

CirclMastr posted:

Anyway I'm not too plussed about Cube's claim and don't see the need to lunch them for it.

This doesn't look great in retrospect.

CirclMastr posted:

I've once again not really retained anything I read of the thread upon first waking up, but this time I actually got caffeine and re-read some things. Amazing, I know.

Anyway I don't like Spork's posts. Definitely leaning scum there.

And I'm curious about this now too. What was it about my posts you didn't like Circl?

# ? Feb 13, 2024 17:17

SporkChan: Oct 20, 2010; One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

Rogue AI Goddess posted:

I will stop tracking my target if they die (or if I do). Even Javert eventually gave up the chase.

Yeah, but he canonically does that by throwing himself in the Seine, which I'm hoping won't be the case for you as well.

# ? Feb 13, 2024 17:18

CirclMastr: Jul 4, 2010

SporkChan posted:

This doesn't look great in retrospect.

True but I was nonplussed mostly because I didn't understand the purpose of the claim, I didn't necessarily believe it.

SporkChan posted:

And I'm curious about this now too. What was it about my posts you didn't like Circl?

A lot of day 1 posts about flavor speculation, and the unreasonable assertion that the narrow pool of people who posted during a turbo on town without voting for it MUST include scum.

# ? Feb 13, 2024 17:28

Rogue AI Goddess: May 10, 2012; I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees.
That was a joke... unless..?

SporkChan posted:

Yeah, but he canonically does that by throwing himself in the Seine, which I'm hoping won't be the case for you as well.

Same, especially since I'd have to get a visa to get there.

Thankfully, J.A.V.E.R.T. (Justice Algorithm Vigilantly Empowering Relentless Tracking) is superior to its fleshy namesake, so I have other options besides death. I can also swap to a new suspect after a given number of turns. Provided that I live that long, I will let you all know when the timer expires so that you can make suggestions.

# ? Feb 13, 2024 17:30

SporkChan: Oct 20, 2010; One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

Also per my earlier thoughts about one or multiple scum being the targets of BH's, I'm side eyeing everyone who was so against flavor claims.

To that end I will reveal myself.

Tosses red velvet cape off in a dramatic fashion!

It is I! Cardinal Richelieu!

I have a targeted investigation action, but I'm not going to full claim just yet. However one player can confirm it if they so choose. Though they will be admitting to being a cowardly thief!

# ? Feb 13, 2024 17:36

SporkChan: Oct 20, 2010; One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

Rogue AI Goddess posted:

Same, especially since I'd have to get a visa to get there.

Thankfully, J.A.V.E.R.T. (Justice Algorithm Vigilantly Empowering Relentless Tracking) is superior to its fleshy namesake, so I have other options besides death. I can also swap to a new suspect after a given number of turns. Provided that I live that long, I will let you all know when the timer expires so that you can make suggestions.

Glad to know improvements can be made. And personally I think it's better for you to make the decision yourself about night actions. Publicly announcing what you are doing just lets scum work around that.

For example: If Sandwolf is scum, he and his teammates now know that he shouldn't do the kill or take any negative action.

# ? Feb 13, 2024 17:38

SporkChan: Oct 20, 2010; One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

CirclMastr posted:

True but I was nonplussed mostly because I didn't understand the purpose of the claim, I didn't necessarily believe it.

A lot of day 1 posts about flavor speculation, and the unreasonable assertion that the narrow pool of people who posted during a turbo on town without voting for it MUST include scum.

I don't think that that pool MUST include scum. Just that it's more likely to, and it gives me a way to narrow my focus. Especially after a D1 turbo which didn't provide a lot of information to town.

# ? Feb 13, 2024 17:40

Rogue AI Goddess: May 10, 2012; I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees.
That was a joke... unless..?

SporkChan posted:

Tosses red velvet cape off in a dramatic fashion!

It is I! Cardinal Richelieu!

~~son of a~~
Oh my. You probably get this all the time, Your Excellency, but I am a huge fan of your work.

# ? Feb 13, 2024 17:43

Rogue AI Goddess: May 10, 2012; I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees.
That was a joke... unless..?

SporkChan posted:

For example: If Sandwolf is scum, he and his teammates now know that he shouldn't do the kill or take any negative action.

The way I see it, if Sandwolf is scum and I'm effectively suppressing him, we're trading the actions of one of us for the actions of one of them, and there's more of us than them.

# ? Feb 13, 2024 17:47

Your Personal Muse: Oct 5, 2010; what a cool dude

Rogue AI Goddess posted:

...on that note, since Circlmaster has a confirmed day power of doublevoting, I take it as circumstantial evidence that they are less likely to have done the NK, either.

##unvote

Day actions have no correlation to whether scum did a night action.

# ? Feb 13, 2024 17:47

Your Personal Muse: Oct 5, 2010; what a cool dude

In fact, a one shot double vote on town is incredibly weak for this game. I�m not sure why anyone would believe that claim.

# ? Feb 13, 2024 17:51

CirclMastr: Jul 4, 2010

SporkChan posted:

I don't think that that pool MUST include scum. Just that it's more likely to, and it gives me a way to narrow my focus. Especially after a D1 turbo which didn't provide a lot of information to town.

Yeah but it's way more likely that multiple scum were part of the turbo.

# ? Feb 13, 2024 17:58

Rogue AI Goddess: May 10, 2012; I enjoy the sight of humans on their knees.
That was a joke... unless..?

Your Personal Muse posted:

Day actions have no correlation to whether scum did a night action.

Your Personal Muse posted:

In fact, a one shot double vote on town is incredibly weak for this game. I�m not sure why anyone would believe that claim.

I do not have the knowledge to verify or disprove this information, so I will simply accept it as new inputs for now.

##vote CirclMastr

# ? Feb 13, 2024 18:06

Sandwolf: Jan 23, 2007; i'll be harpo

Rogue AI Goddess posted:

...on that note, since Circlmaster has a confirmed day power of doublevoting, I take it as circumstantial evidence that they are less likely to have done the NK, either.

##unvote

Why??

# ? Feb 13, 2024 18:14

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# ? Jun 24, 2025 14:17

Your Personal Muse: Oct 5, 2010; what a cool dude

Rogue AI Goddess posted:

I do not have the knowledge to verify or disprove this information, so I will simply accept it as new inputs for now.

##vote CirclMastr

Scum typically have a factional nightkill. The scum team just choose who does the nk, it�s not necessarily part of the individual�s power.

# ? Feb 13, 2024 18:14

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