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I think I want to vote Cube but I could be persuaded to fool. It could easily be both of them. If it's 2 scum then we have one more screw-up, if it's 3 then it's already exlo.
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May 12, 2024 21:02
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Hmm I had an initial town read on somber but on a reread I’m not too sure. Somber is a very good scum player usually so maybe I’m being paranoid but them defending salad yesterday is pinging me.
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May 12, 2024 21:22
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Salad also had an unexplained town read on somber very early D1. Also said unprompted that they wouldn’t vote somber:saladscooper posted:##vote Obama their "would vote cube" post is beyond stinky. behold my opinions changing in the spam of 3 minutes. also willing to go for binus, won't vote somber today.
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May 12, 2024 21:27
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ObamaAkbar. posted:Hmm I had an initial town read on somber but on a reread I’m not too sure. Somber is a very good scum player usually so maybe I’m being paranoid but them defending salad yesterday is pinging me. Sorry D1 not yesterday
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May 12, 2024 21:27
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Tbh I’m not that keen on voting cube today, my preference right now is to see salad flip
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All right, I'm around again now. Going to play the game. If there are 3 scum, then at least one of TPC or FoS is scum, plus or minus availability. Someone already made this point I think. 10 is closer to 9 than it is to 13, so I suppose I'll tentatively believe that it's 2 scum. Also because the math I'm about to do would get silly. Two scum means all the following possible combinations: Maug + OA Maug + Salad Maug + Somber Maug + FoS Maug + TPC OA + Salad OA + Somber OA + FoS OA + TPC Salad + Somber Salad + FoS Salad + TPC Somber + FoS Somber + TPC FoS + TPC So 15 combos. That's not all that many. Let's try and rule some out.
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May 12, 2024 22:21
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CubicalSucrose posted:Maug + OA D1, everyone who was voting salad except TPC is dead. It's probably not Salad + TPC.
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May 12, 2024 22:24
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CubicalSucrose posted:D1, everyone who was voting salad except TPC is dead. It's probably not Salad + TPC. Sorry how does this follow
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May 12, 2024 22:27
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Also you're leaving out the cube combos which I'm sure is a completely considered move on your part but because of that I don't know if it's a scum or a town move. This is why I can never read you!
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May 12, 2024 22:33
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Wow, vote review for pairings kinda halts after that. Binus voters were: Maug OA Salad Somber TPC Which is everyone but FoS. Does scumFoS stay off a binus vote for...all day? Maybe. fool of sound posted:I'd like to hear binus' new reads now that they've jumped off obama without revoting. Right now I can't help but wonder if binus' tunneling on obama was distancing, because I don't understand the thought process of their reconsideration. Casting light shade on OA while the binus vote isn't a sure thing. I suppose it could still be FoS + OA, plausibly. If it's 3 scum, then scumFoS could have stayed off the binus vote fairly easily, I think. But that still means two scum on binus. Then the instant aggro on TPC for the hammer: fool of sound posted:##vote tpc I think town are more likely to not think about scumrush possibilities, though I'm probably biased since I was anti-TPC pretty much all of D2. I find it hard for me to think I'll vote FoS today.
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May 12, 2024 22:36
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CubicalSucrose posted:All right, I'm around again now. Going to play the game. When your scum homework is due at midnight and it's 11:50 p.m.
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May 12, 2024 22:39
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Maugrim posted:Definitely a top candidate currently. Somberbrero posted:You sound like a coward imo Maugrim posted:Town vibes from Somber and memories of you doing the Little awkward interaction between Maug and Somber D1. Maugrim posted:How many scum in a 10 player game? 3? Maugrim posted:Maybe 2 since town have no powers to sniff them out or self protect. Early D1 setup spec, pretty reasonable I think. Maugrim posted:Whoops I got caught up in music league and forgot about this game. I totally missed this! And I was bitching about the "tag yourself" thing. Whoops. Good on you, Maugrim. Maugrim posted:I don't want to vote Obama (town read) or binus (neutral read / I want to see his reads after a flip) but any of the rest I'd be ok with. Maybe easing off on TPC a bit after that post about scum meta. Late D1 post. Explaining the read on binus. Maugrim posted:You're not the first person to describe my style as earnest, lol. Either in Mafia or in other walks of life. Maugrim posted:##unvote Never did make that vote. ------- Their only D2 post: Maugrim posted:After reading over last night's posts I wish I'd done less handwringing and more ##vote binus ------ It's unclear to me where the now-scum-read on binus came from? This is really strange to me. And then D3 they've just gone with a hard townread on TPC for (I'm not really sure why?). Would vote Maugrim. Maugrim posted:I went to the funfair with my family today. It was lovely. I am sunburnt. Do they have funnel cake over there? Funnel cake is the best.
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May 12, 2024 22:43
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Maugrim posted:Also you're leaving out the cube combos which I'm sure is a completely considered move on your part but because of that I don't know if it's a scum or a town move. This is why I can never read you! After including myself as Jabba (or something like that) on one of my spreadsheets because I was D1 gimmicking posting in Huttese (a gimmick that I have found myself regretting a ton after having to translate other people's non-English posts) in one of the SpaceGames and then Sandwolf got a flavorcop that illustrated that I was NOT actually Jabba and no one would believe "I wanted to defend myself against Bounty Hunters" people yeeted me for lying (even though there were figuratively like 8 actual BHs in the game) I decided that I would never again include myself on any spreadsheets or other lists of reads or whatever. People can put in their own effort if they want to case me.
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May 12, 2024 22:45
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Tea Party Crasher posted:Hmm Town is losing really hard, I know what will help, a big list of names without any casework or analysis. Like what are you saying here beyond "here's 15 ways the mod could have rolled scum" [expletives redacted] going back and actually looking at voting history this game sucks a ton because I decided to stop posting VF votecounts. Silly me, succumbing to pressure there.
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Going to set my deadline alarm now. Votecount for Day 3   Tea Party Crasher (1): fool of sound CubicalSucrose (1): Tea Party Crasher Not Voting (5): CubicalSucrose, Maugrim, ObamaAkbar., saladscooper, SomberbreroWith 7 alive, it's 4 votes to execute. The current deadline is May 13th, 2024 at 9 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 1 day, 3 hours.
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May 12, 2024 22:47
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CubicalSucrose posted:Little awkward interaction between Maug and Somber D1. When I quote this you can really see how lightweight this is. Here's a bunch of posts from Maug. One vote on binus, and now they think TPC is town! I sure hope I put enough words in this post to make the motivation behind my desire to vote Maug as genuine
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saladscooper posted:you're never gonna believe this but i'm vanilla This was the post binus originally flagged as a scumtell. saladscooper posted:obama is town saladscooper posted:unless binus flips scum then obama could be scum still Awkward post sequence. Binus has flipped town. This is a weird sort of early conditional read that I don't think I'd personally really ever make as scum (and so I also don't think I'd make as town?). I think it's easier to make these sort of posts as town. saladscooper posted:ok maybe obama-binus is a real pairing lol immediately backtracks. Okay now I don't know what to believe. saladscooper posted:##vote Obama their "would vote cube" post is beyond stinky. behold my opinions changing in the spam of 3 minutes. also willing to go for binus, won't vote somber today. What a D1. I pushed on the "why not somber?" saladscooper posted:they had a townie feeling gut vote out of the gate saladscooper posted:i didn't know hal was in this game Funny post. saladscooper posted:This is how binus acts when he is caught scum iirc. saladscooper posted:maugrim is not voting i think maugrim should vote personally Time zones. saladscooper posted:God we have five minutes are people HERE This was with 6 minutes to go, salad and binus were the only two possibilities. Me and TPC were the only ones around. saladscooper posted:we need two people to vote binus or two to vote me. please make a decision I don't know that scum make these two posts, especially since salad ended at -1. I guess scum could make those posts if they're having a real lovely time, but that's not the sense I got. Rollercoaster D1, but ending a bit townier on salad. ------------- saladscooper posted:Agreed heavily on the first and third points. Cube is one of my top priorities for a vote today, the other being binus. Still pretty sus of Obama but I think I'd like to flip one of Cube/binus first. D2, ignores TPC even though they were the one who resulted in us not D1-elim'ing binus (and now, resulted in an early D2-elim of binus). saladscooper posted:this stuff is why i'm not interested in doing TPC, i think this is scattershot town posting This was a read. It's not something I really remembered and Disney was a weird game so I didn't go back and double-check it. That was the end of their D2. Kinda weak. ---------- saladscooper posted:Hi everyone I was busy moving out and driving the past couple days but now I'm at the new place. Funny post. saladscooper posted:i forgot why i wanted to kill him yesterday but i'm assuming i had a good reason for it This feels townie. If not, it's surprisingly good scum deflection and I'm going to try and steal it if I don't already do this when I'm scum. Not sure it's something I'd be able to pull off well though. Less interested in voting salad today based on posts. ------------- However, that suggests D1 was town-vs-town, and that would probably have some implications for end-of-D1 voting? I'll have to think through this bit later.
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Somberbrero posted:I'm playing in this game and I'm a member of the "Town." Funny post. Somberbrero posted:##vote binus real vote, just gut idk Strange post. I wasn't sure what to make of it early when I went and looked at binus's posts before this. Still not really sure what to make of it. Somberbrero posted:i'd be shook too Funny consistent post. Somberbrero posted:You sound like a coward imo I keep thinking this is a YPM post. Somberbrero posted:Counterpoint: voting binus is good. Somberbrero posted:Did I not start the binus vote? Somberbrero posted:yeah i'm comfy voting binus instead of salad i think Kept doubling-down on binus. I could see scumSomber doing that. I could see townSomber doing that. Null. Somberbrero posted:articulates a sentiment I was feeling re: Obama This (was) the right argument, I think, as opposed to TPC's "Cube has died early a bunch." Somberbrero posted:Again this feels implausibly earnest but I can't figure out what you think is going to change with binus. If you were anyone else I'd say that's fake, but can you explain to me why binus' reads post-flip are valuable? Like what are you hoping to see specifically? This push on Maug seems really good. Somberbrero posted:I feel so sure the salad vote is not it. Somberbrero posted:even if you don't like the binus vote i can't imagine why salad is our other leading candidate Double it, now double it again. Somberbrero posted:Would be much more interested in cube tomorrow after settling this split decision today. Cube is good for content. Did Somber mention me much D2? I don't remember really. ---------------- Somberbrero posted:reread through the thread after catching up and this post stands out to me. i don't buy into the rationale and i don't think it's the kind of argument town make naturally. basing your read off a specific scum perspective feels like a bit of a tell? (In response to this binus post) --- b-minus1 posted:I’m currently voting Obama so yeah I think he’s scum. I don’t vote people on my town list. Notice how I’m not voting tpc Somberbrero posted:my point is that if you're basing your reads off activity, your reads don't match up with the reality of the game. So just trying to understand here - Is somber saying they think OA and/or TPC are scum with binus at this point? I don't get the "don't match up with the reality of the game" bit. Somberbrero posted:defeatist tone at 2 votes, an overreaction Oh, was it this callout of TPC? Hmm. Somberbrero posted:Sorry cube binus was more persuasive ##vote binus Somber had been on TPC not very long. If they hadn't been staring down binus the entire game, I would probably think this vote swap was more suspicious. Is scumSomber willing to just hard-tunnel a townie two days straight, one who wasn't pushing them all that hard really? Maybe. Somberbrero posted:kala got the permits eventually, you're just jealous you don't have a fully functional mining operation in your sub-basement. I enjoy not having to worry very much about flooding (among other things). YPM wanted to vote Cube: Somberbrero posted:i can't disagree with this more v0v Since I'm still alive, was this a pocket attempt? They never pushed on me D2 really, sticking with binus and paying lip-service to my TPC case. Guess I'm in a weird state with somber. The better a scum player I think they are, the more likely I should be to want to vote them.
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ObamaAkbar. posted:Think I’d rather go with binus than salad tbh. ObamaAkbar. posted:Why TPC or why binus over salad? ObamaAkbar. posted:Second time cube has answered for someone else. Definitely gives me scum vibes, would also vote cube ObamaAkbar. posted:Think I’ve got whiplash ObamaAkbar. posted:I’m torn on TPC now because they are suddenly actively scum hunting. Is it just a reaction to votes building up on them though? Truly a catch 22 situation ObamaAkbar. posted:Well I was hoping we’d have narrowed down our options a bit by now. Going to sleep so won’t be around for deadline, keeping my vote where it is Here's a bunch of posts from OA. A vote on TPC, and they think salad might be town! I sure hope I put enough words in this post to make the motivation behind my desire to vote OA as genuine.
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Tea Party Crasher posted:Also now that we have the benefit of hindsight concerning the votes on binus stagnating, I think we can agree there are two possibilities: TPC: Has only voted the two people who weren't on the binus vote.
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Maugrim posted:I'll reread later, want to see if my initial town read of Somber holds up. If it does I'm betting scum are all in salad / fos / cube It's tough because this post is the sort of mishmash of hypotheticals that says nothing while posturing as an alignment call in a way I find scummy, but I don't really want to waste our lunch on Maug.
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Tea Party Crasher posted:When I quote this you can really see how lightweight this is. Here's a bunch of posts from Maug. One vote on binus, and now they think TPC is town! I sure hope I put enough words in this post to make the motivation behind my desire to vote Maug as genuine I hear your point BUT consider, if this is scum Cube he's still working hard for the money and we should just let him have it.
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Tea Party Crasher posted:Also now that we have the benefit of hindsight concerning the votes on binus stagnating, I think we can agree there are two possibilities: someone already pointed out that second option hinges on the assumption that scum were definitely on the binus vote and it wasn't all otherwise town right? idk it just feels weirdly defensive. Tpc is rilly aggro in a way that no one else is. Hard to read assignment off that by itself though.
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I get really bashful when someone goes through my post history like ahaha nooo doooon't im shy.
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Somberbrero posted:someone already pointed out that second option hinges on the assumption that scum were definitely on the binus vote and it wasn't all otherwise town right? idk it just feels weirdly defensive. Tpc is rilly aggro in a way that no one else is. Hard to read assignment off that by itself though. Do you really think that scum wouldn't put there finger on that scale
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Votecount for Day 3 Tea Party Crasher (1): fool of sound CubicalSucrose (1): Tea Party Crasher Not Voting (5): CubicalSucrose, Maugrim, ObamaAkbar., saladscooper, Somberbrero With 7 alive, it's 4 votes to execute. The current deadline is May 13th, 2024 at 9 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 23 hours, 20 minutes.
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I suppose I was wrong about Maugrim in Tarot Mafia, but that was a rough game for me, there was masonry nonsense, and also this seems like a different Maugrim? Trying hard to not just vote TPC here but that might just be the simplest way to start.
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CubicalSucrose posted:I suppose I was wrong about Maugrim in Tarot Mafia, but that was a rough game for me, there was masonry nonsense, and also this seems like a different Maugrim? Hard to tell if this is you worried about a scum rush, or waiting for somebody else to vote to initiate a scum rush without anybody having time to react or get concerned
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Tea Party Crasher posted:Hard to tell if this is you worried about a scum rush, or waiting for somebody else to vote to initiate a scum rush without anybody having time to react or get concerned With you specifically, a game-ending scumrush means FoS is scum and there are 3 scum and you were not scum. If I'm gonna be that wrong, then I'm taking the L. If there are only 2 scum and they're not you, then it would be risky to scumrush after my vote because the game doesn't end and that would tip their hand. All of this is a bit moot if you're scum.
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CubicalSucrose posted:With you specifically, a game-ending scumrush means FoS is scum and there are 3 scum and you were not scum. If I'm gonna be that wrong, then I'm taking the L. Well then I don't know why you are being hesitant about voting me
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One could call this being self-conscious but I don't get that sensation from it
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Tea Party Crasher posted:Also now that we have the benefit of hindsight concerning the votes on binus stagnating, I think we can agree there are two possibilities: Going back to this. If you're not scum, and you believe #2 is true, then which two people do you think are scum right now?
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CubicalSucrose posted:Going back to this. Better question, who do you think those two scum would be. Or is this post/premise only useful to you as something to poke me with
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Maybe you were disappointed that the first time you quoted it and said it was weird, not enough people sussed me over it. So I'm not going to answer until You actually Interact with the premise and tell me what you think
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Tea Party Crasher posted:Better question, who do you think those two scum would be. Or is this post/premise only useful to you as something to poke me with Well FoS and me are the only two players alive who didn't vote binus, and yet those are the only two players you've voted today. I thought maybe you'd gone back on this point, but it seemed like you still believed it when you responded to Somber. Tea Party Crasher posted:Do you really think that scum wouldn't put there finger on that scale So I'm trying to figure out what you're doing. Your play this game has been bizarre.
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CubicalSucrose posted:Well FoS and me are the only two players alive who didn't vote binus, and yet those are the only two players you've voted today. So you're not actually interested in the premise itself, I was right in that you are just interested in bringing more attention to me
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Tea Party Crasher posted:So you're not actually interested in the premise itself, I was right in that you are just interested in bringing more attention to me I tried to do pairs earlier today and you shat on that effort. Now, I'm trying to figure out if I really think you're scum or if I've gotten myself into a full-game tunnel like I did with Humalong in TMor's 99% historical game, or that time I hard scumread RwC in King's Quest 4 and threw at endgame.
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CubicalSucrose posted:I tried to do pairs earlier today and you shat on that effort. Now, I'm trying to figure out if I really think you're scum or if I've gotten myself into a full-game tunnel like I did with Humalong in TMor's 99% historical game, or that time I hard scumread RwC in King's Quest 4 and threw at endgame. Yeah because your list was every loving possible permutation, excluding yourself. If I were a detective on a murder case and I was asked for possible suspects, I would rightfully be mocked for giving a list of everyone in town minus myself.
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