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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
lol that Brian Williams was better than all the rest

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Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Jamie Raskin cracking up next to her was great, on the other hand there's nothing funny about the GOP continuing to openly state that rules are only to be enforced against a certain kind of person.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

GD_American posted:

A lot of journalists build their brand around being a tough interview but fall pitifully short. See: Chuck Todd

I really wish I understood the root cultural differences, in the service of emulating them, between the US and UK that leads to every british interviewer no matter where they fall on the ideological spectrum taking it as a matter of faith that their calling is to gently caress with a pineapple everyone who dares appear before them.

Like, this is the UK equivalent of Lou Dobbs eating Ben Shapiro for a light snack

https://youtu.be/6VixqvOcK8E

Plastic_Gargoyle
Aug 3, 2007

shame on an IGA posted:

I really wish I understood the root cultural differences, in the service of emulating them, between the US and UK that leads to every british interviewer no matter where they fall on the ideological spectrum taking it as a matter of faith that their calling is to gently caress with a pineapple everyone who dares appear before them.

Like, this is the UK equivalent of Lou Dobbs eating Ben Shapiro for a light snack

https://youtu.be/6VixqvOcK8E

Yes but did you threaten to overrule him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqU77I40mS0

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

shame on an IGA posted:

I really wish I understood the root cultural differences, in the service of emulating them, between the US and UK that leads to every british interviewer no matter where they fall on the ideological spectrum taking it as a matter of faith that their calling is to gently caress with a pineapple everyone who dares appear before them.

Like, this is the UK equivalent of Lou Dobbs eating Ben Shapiro for a light snack

https://youtu.be/6VixqvOcK8E

It's not a cultural thing. The BBC, ITV, and Channel 4 are all publicly owned and so their journalists are free to grill politicians so long as they don't breach certain bias laws. Privately owned news services (like Sky) are just as sycophantic as their US counterparts.

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



shame on an IGA posted:

I really wish I understood the root cultural differences, in the service of emulating them, between the US and UK that leads to every british interviewer no matter where they fall on the ideological spectrum taking it as a matter of faith that their calling is to gently caress with a pineapple everyone who dares appear before them.

Like, this is the UK equivalent of Lou Dobbs eating Ben Shapiro for a light snack

https://youtu.be/6VixqvOcK8E

You can't get rich and you can't get famous in Britain (in general but extra so) if you do american journalism. That severely alters what sort of personality want to attempt a career in the field. Lord knows Rupert Murdoch tried to change all that but he failed, so they settled on reducing how many jobs there were for journos.
I'd badly summarise it as in the US the audience don't have any power over content, while in Britain politicians don't have any power over anything. The organisations ruling media channels do in both, and the very wide BBC has both been the biggest and beyond partisan control for most of it

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

psydude posted:

It's not a cultural thing. The BBC, ITV, and Channel 4 are all publicly owned and so their journalists are free to grill politicians so long as they don't breach certain bias laws. Privately owned news services (like Sky) are just as sycophantic as their US counterparts.

Part culture IMO. I’ve heard sarcastic snark on (USA) National Public Radio but never diving in like that. Dammit NPR, use my dollars for pure unbridled hatred of hypocrisy.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

goatsestretchgoals posted:

Part culture IMO. I’ve heard sarcastic snark on (USA) National Public Radio but never diving in like that. Dammit NPR, use my dollars for pure unbridled hatred of hypocrisy.

NPR isn't insulated from politics, though. The CPB's budget comes from Congress annually, while the funding for the BBC comes from the TV license fee. The license fee itself is mandated by a 10 year charter, which insulates the funding far more than the CPB's. Channel 4 and ITV are commercially funded.

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA
Isn't British journalism ludicrously constrained in how they can cover the royal family?

GD_American
Jul 21, 2004

LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AS IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT!

shame on an IGA posted:

I really wish I understood the root cultural differences, in the service of emulating them, between the US and UK that leads to every british interviewer no matter where they fall on the ideological spectrum taking it as a matter of faith that their calling is to gently caress with a pineapple everyone who dares appear before them.

Like, this is the UK equivalent of Lou Dobbs eating Ben Shapiro for a light snack

https://youtu.be/6VixqvOcK8E

I remember right after this, someone tweeted that Shapiro had ignorantly walked into the den of the most dangerous land predator alive, the British interviewer

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

Cugel the Clever posted:

Isn't British journalism ludicrously constrained in how they can cover the royal family?

British journalism is ludicrously constrained in how you have to cover anything. Use the wrong phrasing about something you don't have grand jury grade evidence for, and boom, enjoy your court case.

(USER WAS SLAPPED WITH A LIBEL SUIT FOR THIS POST)

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Cugel the Clever posted:

Isn't British journalism ludicrously constrained in how they can cover the royal family?

Ofcom has the legal authority to censor pretty much any news.

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv-radio-and-on-demand/broadcast-codes/broadcast-code/section-five-due-impartiality-accuracy

They've caught a lot of poo poo in recent years for letting outlets like GBNews (which is basically the OANN of the UK) skate while nitpicking the BBC.

psydude fucked around with this message at 05:46 on May 18, 2024

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



Kazinsal posted:

British journalism is ludicrously constrained in how you have to cover anything. Use the wrong phrasing about something you don't have grand jury grade evidence for, and boom, enjoy your court case.

(USER WAS SLAPPED WITH A LIBEL SUIT FOR THIS POST)

Making newscasting even more thankless than interviewing where they aren't presenting any facts but merely asking questions directly from the source of horrible unfair laws and news. Can't libel if the bastard is cornered to admitting it themselves

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

psydude posted:

Ofcom has the legal authority to censor pretty much any news.

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv-radio-and-on-demand/broadcast-codes/broadcast-code/section-five-due-impartiality-accuracy

They've caught a lot of poo poo in recent years for letting outlets like GBNews (which is basically the OANN of the UK) skate while nitpicking the BBC.

Ofcom is kinda fun in that they regularly post all of the violations they've received and acted upon in the past however long and sometimes it's just the most stupid mundane poo poo.

Other times, it's someone blasting porno through a radio station's mixing desk.

G1mby
Jun 8, 2014

Nick Soapdish posted:

(Impossible)

I mean seriously, if this isn't Weedlord Bonerhitler's time to shine, when is?

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
NTSB preliminary report on the Dali allision.

https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Documents/DCA24MM031_PreliminaryReport%203.pdf

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

Thank you, Johnny Hockey.
Ladies and gentlemen.. we got him!

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1791824466940469425?t=Fiwr1JgGkyUDgvn9wtqMyA&s=19

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

lol

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006
One person described the service as being like the storming of the beaches of Normandy, which, if memory serves me, the ones doing the storming were the good guys.

Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine

A.o.D. posted:

One person described the service as being like the storming of the beaches of Normandy, which, if memory serves me, the ones doing the storming were the good guys.

I guess they did not see it like that

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007




I really hope they can start letting the crew rotate off and on soon, I know someone has to be there to keep up the ship so they can't all just go home but being stuck there for weeks after the accident super sucks.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

https://x.com/JordanUhl/status/1791726040014057604

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?


I'm not a disbarred former lawyer like Mr. Giuliani, but I don't think that's how criminal charges work.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

psydude posted:

NPR isn't insulated from politics, though. The CPB's budget comes from Congress annually, while the funding for the BBC comes from the TV license fee. The license fee itself is mandated by a 10 year charter, which insulates the funding far more than the CPB's. Channel 4 and ITV are commercially funded.

Doesn't NPR get a shitton of money from large donors? Seems inherently political

MonkeyFit
May 13, 2009

Elviscat posted:

I'm not a disbarred former lawyer like Mr. Giuliani, but I don't think that's how criminal charges work.

I made the mistake of trying to figure out where in the hell he was coming from with that. And all I could get was it basically being the same as double dog daring them to find him that night.

Serjeant Buzfuz
Dec 5, 2009

Midjack posted:

I really hope they can start letting the crew rotate off and on soon, I know someone has to be there to keep up the ship so they can't all just go home but being stuck there for weeks after the accident super sucks.

I mean being stuck there for weeks is basically the same as sailing for weeks at least they get cell phone signal where they are stuck at.

MonkeyFit
May 13, 2009

Serjeant Buzfuz posted:

I mean being stuck there for weeks is basically the same as sailing for weeks at least they get cell phone signal where they are stuck at.

Didn't the FBI take their phones?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

A.o.D. posted:

One person described the service as being like the storming of the beaches of Normandy, which, if memory serves me, the ones doing the storming were the good guys.

Yeah, and Giuliani’s hair was wetter than the Atlantic Ocean.


I feel like this could have gone “Your Honor, the target of our summons is aware that we’re looking for them and why we’re looking, and they’re posting about it in a public forum. The State of Arizona requests permission to slide into their DMs and place an advertisement in the newspaper and consider them served.”

Space Opera
Jun 5, 2011

That rabbit's got a vicious streak a mile wide! It's a killer!

MonkeyFit posted:

Didn't the FBI take their phones?


BBC posted:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-69011124

According to Mr Messick, the crew has been left largely without communication with the outside world for "a couple of weeks" after their mobile phones were confiscated by the FBI as part of the investigation.

"They can't do any online banking. They can't pay their bills at home. They don't have any of their data or anyone's contact information, so they're really isolated right now," Mr Messick said. "They just can't reach out to the folks they need to, or even look at pictures of their children before they go to sleep. It's really a sad situation."

Asehujiko
Apr 6, 2011
Perhaps a bit of a weird question but does anybody know if anything big happening around Kurdistan at the moment? I was at an amusement park in the Netherlands and there were multiple teens walking around with Kurdistan flags. A cursory google search didn't turn up any major holidays and upon checking Rudaw and Kurdistan24 I saw them literally reporting about grass growing in Erbil:


But perhaps this is all a coincidence and the Kurdish diaspora in the Netherlands just collectively decided today was the day to ride some roller coasters. :shrug:

Serjeant Buzfuz
Dec 5, 2009

MonkeyFit posted:

Didn't the FBI take their phones?

Well that's just lovely as gently caress

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



MonkeyFit posted:

Didn't the FBI take their phones?

Yes, though they have supposedly been given replacements and some of them have gotten their SIM cards back. Unclear why it's taken this long to fully examine their handsets but acab applies to federal bacon too.

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".
Mariners are easy targets. They are basically helpless and rarely have many advocates. The company doesn't give a gently caress, they just want to limit their liabilities. Foreign states have little leverage and usually don't worry themselves too much.

Soul Dentist
Mar 17, 2009

Space Opera posted:

The BBC posted:

They just can't reach out to the folks they need to, or even look at pictures of their children before they go to sleep

Yeah that's what stranded sailors do on their phones in their bunks before sleeping for sure

lightpole
Jun 4, 2004
I think that MBAs are useful, in case you are looking for an answer to the question of "Is lightpole a total fucking idiot".

Soul Dentist posted:

Yeah that's what stranded sailors do on their phones in their bunks before sleeping for sure

Yes.

My 2nd would say hi to his kids over Zoom while eating breakfast and then again at night. #1 thing everyone wants is internet so they can stay in contact with family and deal with all the poo poo like banking and bills that turn into an issue when you aren't home for months.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB

Soul Dentist posted:

Yeah that's what stranded sailors do on their phones in their bunks before sleeping for sure

Even if it’s the 2nd thing they do it’s a real thing to feel lonely and homesick. I may be a lovely reservist but I was still stuck from home for exactly a year and not being able to say when I’d be home due to events beyond my control got extremely depressing.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
I don’t care if they’re watching hardcore pornography. They ought to be allowed that, too.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
forcing them to stay on the vessel is pretty hosed

MonkeyWash
Jan 14, 2005
Donkey Rinse



ded posted:

forcing them to stay on the vessel is pretty hosed

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FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Look, there’s a risk of precedent. If people start thinking seafarers are people, we might have to start letting them ashore.

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