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That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Tiny Timbs posted:

Y'all need Jesus

Lol drat

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Paingod556
Nov 8, 2011

Not a problem, sir

Steezo posted:

DEUS VULT! DEUS VULT! DEUS VULT!

I mean uhh, how much worse could it be if it were owned by Vatican City?

Literally the plot of Sum of All Fears

It ends with the Super Bowl getting nuked

... so yes, there are no downsides here.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006
drat, the universe just won't give me the delicious irony I crave.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug
Pillbug
Cops in Florida burst into the wrong apartment and shot an active duty Senior Airman while on facetime with a friend:



https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/05/09/roger-fortson-death-okaloosa-county-sheriff-shooting/73624898007/
His crime: Being black in his own home and having a firearm. Had he not been on facetime, there'd be no witnesses.

CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 15:50 on May 9, 2024

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

CommieGIR posted:

Cops in Florida burst into the wrong apartment and shot an active duty Senior Airman while on facetime with a friend:



https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/05/09/roger-fortson-death-okaloosa-county-sheriff-shooting/73624898007/
His crime: Being black in his own home and having a firearm. Had he not been on facetime, there'd be no witnesses.
Also they apparently didn't identify themselves at all when trying to gain entry... while responding to a domestic dispute call. (I think in general no knock warrants are bullshit, but the supposed reason didn't have any excuses on top of it).

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug
Pillbug

OddObserver posted:

Also they apparently didn't identify themselves at all when trying to gain entry... while responding to a domestic dispute call. (I think in general no knock warrants are bullshit, but the supposed reason didn't have any excuses on top of it).

Apparently they knocked a bunch but did not announce themselves, per the witness and then shot him as soon as they entered, he had apparently armed himself because of how aggressively they knocked and because he didn't see anyone through the peephole.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


second half of the thread title remains evergreen :sigh:

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

CommieGIR posted:

Cops in Florida burst into the wrong apartment and shot an active duty Senior Airman while on facetime with a friend:



https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/05/09/roger-fortson-death-okaloosa-county-sheriff-shooting/73624898007/
His crime: Being black in his own home and having a firearm. Had he not been on facetime, there'd be no witnesses.

Can't wait to hear the local yokels defend it

Kith posted:

second half of the thread title remains evergreen :sigh:

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug
Pillbug

Milo and POTUS posted:

Can't wait to hear the local yokels defend it

The worst part for me is the "No officers were injured in the incident". gently caress you, reporter.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
95% sure same county where the bloody acorn massacre took place

The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums
Well this is the worst thing I've read in a while
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/09/man-eunuch-maker-streamed-mutilations-jailed-life-marius-gustavson

Shows how some folks won't stop unless made to stop.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


The Eyes Have It posted:

Well this is the worst thing I've read in a while
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/09/man-eunuch-maker-streamed-mutilations-jailed-life-marius-gustavson

Shows how some folks won't stop unless made to stop.

"what the gently caress? where were these victims even coming from?

...

oh. they initially consented. :barf:"

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar

CommieGIR posted:

Cops in Florida burst into the wrong apartment and shot an active duty Senior Airman while on facetime with a friend:



https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/05/09/roger-fortson-death-okaloosa-county-sheriff-shooting/73624898007/
His crime: Being black in his own home and having a firearm. Had he not been on facetime, there'd be no witnesses.

i know it's low hanging fruit but christ these articles are always written with the author's lips firmly placed on the rear end of police

"US airman Roger Fortson killed by deputies who may have hit wrong home, Ben Crump says"
"An active-duty airman was shot and killed during a deputy-involved shooting"


CommieGIR posted:

The worst part for me is the "No officers were injured in the incident". gently caress you, reporter.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB
Guys it’s just an oopsy-shootsy he promises to do better in the future after 30 days payed off to decompress and another couple months of retraining. The important thing you support the cops and make sure they all Come Home Alive. Google “40% cops” to learn more about how important it is for them to make it home.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/05/09/they-took-my-gift-away-interview-mother-of-florida-airman-killed-police-describes-shock.html

"It's a disbelief. Every day, I try to go to sleep early to wake up like it's a dream," she told Military.com. "He just came back from deployment from fighting for us. With everything we got going on in our country, he's fighting for us and he came back to be murdered, slain like that so violently."

:smith:

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar

quote:

Publicly available police radio audio reviewed by Military.com reported a call for a disturbance at an apartment complex at 319 Racetrack Road around 4:30 p.m. local time.

"Don't have anything further than a male and female; it's all fourth party information from the front desk at the leasing office," a deputy said on the radio.

A few minutes later, another deputy called in to report "shots fired, suspect down," and called for emergency medical services.

just show up to a random-rear end apartment and pop someone six times because eh, someone in the complex is fighting? you can't expect us to know anything before opening fire

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB

Zamujasa posted:

just show up to a random-rear end apartment and pop someone six times because eh, someone in the complex is fighting? you can't expect us to know anything before opening fire

YEAH BUT WHAT IF HE KNOCKED AND SAID IT WAS THE POLICE AND THEN THE PERP SHOT HIM THROUGH THE DOOR??!!!?
WOULD YOU BE CONCERNED THEN?!??!?

This is literally the argument made when it happened to Breonna Taylor.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Nick Soapdish posted:

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/05/09/they-took-my-gift-away-interview-mother-of-florida-airman-killed-police-describes-shock.html

"It's a disbelief. Every day, I try to go to sleep early to wake up like it's a dream," she told Military.com. "He just came back from deployment from fighting for us. With everything we got going on in our country, he's fighting for us and he came back to be murdered, slain like that so violently."

:smith:

This is so loving sad. Yet another guy doing everything right only to suffer for it.

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

Crab Dad posted:

YEAH BUT WHAT IF HE KNOCKED AND SAID IT WAS THE POLICE AND THEN THE PERP SHOT HIM THROUGH THE DOOR??!!!?
WOULD YOU BE CONCERNED THEN?!??!?

This is literally the argument made when it happened to Breonna Taylor.

They probably actually believe that, which is part of the problem with police in US, especially combined with racism.

(I am pretty sure that not knocking actually increases the risks substantially, especially in castle doctrine states).

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 29 days!
I just loving love living in a country where I know that any time I hear police sirens it might be cops coming to murder me in my home for no reason and no one will be held accountable in any meaningful sense.

And also Ron DeSantis banned all civilian oversight of law enforcement and the police department is defending the shoot, so not a goddamn thing is going to happen.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Cythereal posted:

I just loving love living in a country where I know that any time I hear police sirens it might be cops coming to murder me in my home for no reason and no one will be held accountable in any meaningful sense.

Good news: they don't even have to turn the sirens and lights on!

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Cythereal posted:

and the police department is defending the shoot, so not a goddamn thing is going to happen.

it won't just be the police department lol. you're gonna hear some insane poo poo from every right wing halfwit with a mic, a camera and an audience for the foreseeable future or at least until the next pointless and completely unjustifiable police shooting. so I guess just wait a week.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
I can't wait to find out he smoked pot once as a teenager and how much he wasn't an angel.

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


Support Are Troops (except that one he should have complied)

Eason the Fifth
Apr 9, 2020

Arrath posted:

Support Are Troops (except that one he should have complied)

In the end, nobody really gives a poo poo about troops except their moms

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
The Cindy Sheehan story

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe
I know it’s usually because it’s “those people” that are the ones getting shot, but I’ll never get over the fact that the people that will defend this the hardest are the staunchest 2nd amendment supporters that are fine with the police blasting anyone that could in theory be armed.

ThisIsJohnWayne
Feb 23, 2007
Ooo! Look at me! NO DON'T LOOK AT ME!



What would happen if they wrong adress-killed another cop?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

ThisIsJohnWayne posted:

What would happen if they wrong adress-killed another cop?

They smear the dead guy in the press.

Decent odds they don’t have to make poo poo up, just uncover stuff that they covered for him in life.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

fknlo posted:

I know it’s usually because it’s “those people” that are the ones getting shot, but I’ll never get over the fact that the people that will defend this the hardest are the staunchest 2nd amendment supporters that are fine with the police blasting anyone that could in theory be armed.

Hi, I'm a super staunch 2A defender. Pick either "under no pretext" or "shall not be infringed", both are fine by me. Also, defund the goddamned police.

Edit: vvvvv I missed that one.

A.o.D. fucked around with this message at 22:32 on May 9, 2024

Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine
Remember the Arkansas airport director who got merked by the ATF in a no-knock raid a month or so ago? All the chuds were out in force to declare that these surprise raids would cause any reasonable homeowner to take steps to defend themselves against these unknown intruders.

I am sure they will speak up on this matter as well. Right?

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB

Discussion Quorum posted:

Remember the Arkansas airport director who got merked by the ATF in a no-knock raid a month or so ago? All the chuds were out in force to declare that these surprise raids would cause any reasonable homeowner to take steps to defend themselves against these unknown intruders.

I am sure they will speak up on this matter as well. Right?

He wasn’t a home owner. Checkmate sheeple.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

ThisIsJohnWayne posted:

What would happen if they wrong adress-killed another cop?

Adrian Schoolcraft

anyway I will continue to hope this incident will lead to a reshaping of the department and its surroundings since to my knowledge this is the first time cops have senselessly murdered anyone whose immediate coworkers have an AC-130

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made American Products. Bitch.

shame on an IGA posted:

Adrian Schoolcraft

anyway I will continue to hope this incident will lead to a reshaping of the department and its surroundings since to my knowledge this is the first time cops have senselessly murdered anyone whose immediate coworkers have an AC-130

bet they dont have the balls to do anything with it, though

Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

shame on an IGA posted:

Adrian Schoolcraft

They made challenge coins celebrating involuntarily committing a “rat”

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

A.o.D. posted:

Hi, I'm a super staunch 2A defender. Pick either "under no pretext" or "shall not be infringed", both are fine by me. Also, defund the goddamned police.

Itchy_Grundle
Feb 22, 2003

OddObserver posted:

(I am pretty sure that not knocking actually increases the risks substantially, especially in castle doctrine states).

Absolutely.

I am a 2A supporter but believe me I'm not in favor of giving LE (or anyone else) a pass for what's clearly a gently caress up. A guy is dead. He shouldn't be.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Itchy_Grundle posted:

Absolutely.

I am a 2A supporter but believe me I'm not in favor of giving LE (or anyone else) a pass for what's clearly a gently caress up. A guy is dead. He shouldn't be.

There's also nothing in the second amendment that would prohibit disarming the police while on duty.

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

You know, I remember getting irritated at gettin quizzed on 'arabic' (Hindi? I think they actually are. The squiggly ones that Iraq is phasing out) before raids.

It's sad that a bunch of kids staring at squiggles made more of an effort to hit the right house.

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Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

shame on an IGA posted:

Adrian Schoolcraft

anyway I will continue to hope this incident will lead to a reshaping of the department and its surroundings since to my knowledge this is the first time cops have senselessly murdered anyone whose immediate coworkers have an AC-130

This is actually a great way to swing public opinion on the military in a positive direction

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