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Illusionis
Dec 12, 2011
Anyway I'm taking off for the night because it's Friday evening

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SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

yuming posted:

C'mon man.

This does feel similar to the way Jose V used his ecco is Periodic maf.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

Illusionis posted:

Then you should have easily been able to respond as such, instead of engaging in deliberate misdirection that you know has no bearing on what has happened in this game. It is a sign of scum mindset that your first response is to misdirect, rather than to address the issue directly, and simply I'm engaging with the part of your content that is most blatantly betraying your scum mindset. As for grouping people in to chunks, yes it's almost like I'm playing this game with no definite information of people's alignments and as such I can't give accurate assessments on everybody's alignments right away, is this new to you. And as for putting people in to chunks, I've done it what? with you and Hal, to note after your response betrayed you I've addressed your scumminess alone not at all related to Hal and the second time is calling out people who don't have a vote down nearing deadline, so I guess that's me constantly sorting people in to chunks? Also if we have to bend this poo poo in to shape from metal wire, people who do not have a vote down at the end of day are not indicating their actual vote preferences in the most direct and usable way you can do in a game of mafia, so no poo poo I'm grouping those people in a group and leaving the door open to call them scummy, because that is potentially scummy behaviour
I think my perspective there is clear. I said I wouldn't shoot D1, you bring it up again, I give an example of not shooting D1. I was voting you at the time, of course I am brushing it off. I guess you win the contest on who can make the longest paragraph tho. Because I've said all I have to say here.

Let's kill Illu of FoS off Sand's result.

Fun fact: Illu's resonse to the softclaim is also scummy.

Illu, what do you think of FoS, Cube and keats :allears:

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

yuming posted:

I think my perspective there is clear. I said I wouldn't shoot D1, you bring it up again, I give an example of not shooting D1. I was voting you at the time, of course I am brushing it off. I guess you win the contest on who can make the longest paragraph tho. Because I've said all I have to say here.

Let's kill Illu of FoS off Sand's result.

Fun fact: Illu's resonse to the softclaim is also scummy.

Illu, what do you think of FoS, Cube and keats :allears:
**kill Illu or FoS.

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

yuming posted:

**kill Illu or FoS.

Sorry I have had tons of family come into town for the weekend and I have not had time for mafia.

However these two are also my strongest scum reads. I feel pretty good about both yuming and cube thus far, pretty strong town reads. Feel decent about nutsack for the most part.

I don't know why keats is seeing Opop as scum, I can't get much of a read on him thus far.

Probably still going to be busy until later this evening but it seems like we have a long day so that is good.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


yuming posted:

He is hard softclaiming an Ecco cop result on Cube/keats/FoS.

Well now you’ve played my hand!!! It’s technically an Ecco gunsmith but based on the way the folks I investigated have been playing, I’m p sure there is a minimum of one scum in there.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


yuming posted:

I guess we are debating whether or not we think it is a result but,





C'mon man.

This did prove maybe you shouldn’t have out & out claimed for me but bag out of the cat etc

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


SporkChan posted:

This does feel similar to the way Jose V used his ecco is Periodic maf.

Literally exactly what I was going for but I’m nowhere near as good as Jose the Fifth

Illusionis
Dec 12, 2011

yuming posted:

I think my perspective there is clear. I said I wouldn't shoot D1, you bring it up again, I give an example of not shooting D1. I was voting you at the time, of course I am brushing it off. I guess you win the contest on who can make the longest paragraph tho. Because I've said all I have to say here.

Let's kill Illu of FoS off Sand's result.

Fun fact: Illu's resonse to the softclaim is also scummy.

Illu, what do you think of FoS, Cube and keats :allears:

Idk maybe actually read my posts instead of just trying to push me on your nonsense

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

Illusionis posted:

Idk maybe actually read my posts instead of just trying to push me on your nonsense
I did read your posts! I am done responding.

Tell me what you think of FoS, keats and Cube~

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Sandwolf posted:

Well now you’ve played my hand!!! It’s technically an Ecco gunsmith but based on the way the folks I investigated have been playing, I’m p sure there is a minimum of one scum in there.

So did you not believe FoS when they claimed:

fool of sound posted:

That's no way to treat the local bulletproof seer/vig

?

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

Sandwolf posted:

Literally exactly what I was going for but I’m nowhere near as good as Jose the Fifth

Well also 13 player game vs. whatever that monstrosity got to. 59 players? I think.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

##unvote
for now.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

CubicalSucrose posted:

So did you not believe FoS when they claimed:

?

It feels like most people didn't. I thought it was an obvious joke myself.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

FoS, would you have tripped a gunsmith investigation?

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

CubicalSucrose posted:

FoS, would you have tripped a gunsmith investigation?

No, that claim was a joke lol. I have an action but it's non-lethal.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


CubicalSucrose posted:

So did you not believe FoS when they claimed:

?

Are you serious? No.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
Anyway, that's a scummy rear end question and I think you know that my claim was fake. There's no pressing reason to disbelieve sand's results.

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


Cube positing that as if it were reasonable and using it as an excuse to unvote feels bad

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
##vote cube

If there's scum between keats and cube then I'm going cube.

SporkChan
Oct 20, 2010

One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

CubicalSucrose posted:

I, for one, believe FoS.

##vote Illu

This was Cube yesterday, so he's at least being consistent. Still doesn't make sense to me and doesn't feel like Cube to be so credulous.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

I'm actually a BP vig but my vig only activates when my BP gets used up. I was not targeted for the NK last night, otherwise I'd be shooting right now.

I thought for a while that maybe that was the "vanilla" equivalent this game (and not necessarily worth counterclaiming FoS), after Keats' death miller claim and Opop's insta doc claim, and FoS's claim.

I asked TMor what they felt about this game because their 99% Historically Accurate game had a bunch of BP floating around.

This is why I was hesitant to actually vote someone out D1, because if all town were BP, then we'd be more likely to get a free night vs. getting a BP to flip and then scum would know a bit more info.

Given Sand's ecco-seer claim and the AFQM flip, it doesn't seem like everyone else has BP-triggered abilities, but FoS's post yesterday is still really weird.

##vote FoS

Illusionis
Dec 12, 2011

Illusionis posted:

Now regarding other suspicions, I still think Cube is off and the whole placeholder stuff from d1 is very self-conscious for just putting a vote down on who is supposedly your biggest scumfeel.

However I think FoS looks far worse now and is second on my scumlist, extremely sparse d1 just to pop in close to deadline, first to vote someone with basically no chance of getting voted out, then immediately pivoting to Fancy for calling it out and loving off, now admittedly the deadline was very early for US players so not posting volumes right there is understandable. More though it's this real confidence to focus on players not on Fancy yeet and specifically not even seemingly considering if Cube is town or scum and if there's significance there to why it ended up being Fancy over Cube. Also the pushing so focusedly on Spork is weird because Spork was present, actively pushing Cube and had in fact mentioned he would hammer Fancy too. Also here later Cube is the other top target today, which doesn't really make sense in context of focusing on non-voters, since if Cube is scum there should be a high likelyhood of scum in the people who voted to push Fancy on the vote lead after they were tied 3-3


yuming posted:

I did read your posts! I am done responding.

Tell me what you think of FoS, keats and Cube~

Nive yo have confirmation that you're lying once again. As for Keats who I didn't address in this post idk I think the mixup early on is within his range to fake, but overall he's been really quiet and FoS and Cube look far worse. Now since it as an actual ecco gunsmith claim ##vote Fool of Sound

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
Oh I see. Now I wonder why people keep bringing up Keats when he has barely posted

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

CubicalSucrose posted:

I thought for a while that maybe that was the "vanilla" equivalent this game

This is nonsense

CubicalSucrose posted:

This is why I was hesitant to actually vote someone out D1, because if all town were BP, then we'd be more likely to get a free night vs. getting a BP to flip and then scum would know a bit more info.

This is nonsense.


CubicalSucrose posted:

FoS's post yesterday is still really weird.

Buddy even if that was a real role I would never claim in N1 lol. That would be moronic.

Spacebanito
Dec 4, 2009

Die thou unsung.
Illu's behavior with yuming feels extremely bad to me, and given that I didn't feel good about them day 1 means I'm very happy shifting my vote to them, if things change.

My three reads at the moment are FoS, Illu and TM. I'd be repeating myself or quoting others to explain why at this stage, but there are now three role claims that I believe at play, so I think we want to be careful to make sure whatever vote we make stands to verify one or more of them, if we can. Miller is a lost cause, can't verify that except through killing the Miller, which isn't a great play, but the other two

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)

CubicalSucrose posted:


I asked TMor what they felt about this game because their 99% Historically Accurate game had a bunch of BP floating around.

Would scum Cube preplanned their fake claim this early? Mmmm

Spacebanito
Dec 4, 2009

Die thou unsung.

fool of sound posted:

This is nonsense

This is nonsense.

This is nonsense.

And the reason why is it's dumb to just reply to a train of thought with 'no' instead of actually refuting it with anything. Why is "I was BP and thought everyone might be" more of a nonsense claim than Miller, ecco cop, or the eavesdropper we saw flip? Roles this game seem a bit more on the esoteric side, so I find this very believable.

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.
Wtf is an ecco gunsmith

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Tired Moritz posted:

Would scum Cube preplanned their fake claim this early? Mmmm

Yeah maybe as long as I'm not scumbuds with zzyzx.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Nutsack Rangoon posted:

Wtf is an ecco gunsmith

Same idea as ecco cop, only you get results of "at least one CAN KILL" or "none of these can kill."

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

CubicalSucrose posted:

Same idea as ecco cop, only you get results of "at least one CAN KILL" or "none of these can kill."

So me being a vig would give Sand a positive result, regardless of the other two being scum or not.

Johnny Keats
Jan 24, 2023

by Fluffdaddy
I think it is pretty LOL if Cube is scum. ##Vote FoS

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
Oh so this forced thunderdome is also kinda pointless?

Spacebanito
Dec 4, 2009

Die thou unsung.
How far are we from a hammer?

Spacebanito
Dec 4, 2009

Die thou unsung.
Meta question, I guess. How common are scum information gathering roles? I know it isn't the most useful thing to consider how frequent things get used, because there's always the chance, but how often do scum get things like eavesdropper, gunsmith, cop equivalent, etc.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
2 days, yo

Spacebanito
Dec 4, 2009

Die thou unsung.

This is why I want to know if we're getting close to ending things early, we want as much time as we can and while I'm comfortable moving my vote to FoS, I don't want to if it risks someone sneaking in a hammer

votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop
Votecount for Day 2

fool of sound (3): CubicalSucrose, CubicalSucrose, CubicalSucrose, Illusionis, Johnny Keats
Tired Moritz (2): Nutsack Rangoon, Spacebanito
Illusionis (1): yuming, yuming, yuming
CubicalSucrose (1): fool of sound
Sandwolf (1): Opopanax
yuming (0): Illusionis, Illusionis
Opopanax (0): Johnny Keats, Johnny Keats

Not Voting (4): Hal Incandenza, Sandwolf, SporkChan, Tired Moritz

With 12 alive, it's 7 votes to execute. The current deadline is May 19th, 2024 at 11:59 p.m. UTC -- that's in about 2 days, 4 hours.

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Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

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4 votes, apparently!

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