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facialimpediment posted:What's up is that it appears we can learn lessons from them Still, the sign got reset https://x.com/bloggingsbyboz/status/1806059284230234471?s=46
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facialimpediment posted:What's up is that it appears we can learn lessons from them https://twitter.com/AssLatam/status/1806123649948135513 That's some intense coping.
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golden bubble posted:June CE thread: That's some intense couping
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Boeing did a wittle fucky wucky but oh well they're just an innocent smol bean company, not doing any sort of blatantly illegal damage control and PR messaging. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/boeing-sanctioned-ntsb-737-max-investigation-midair-incident-rcna159202 This piece doesn't go in to it beyond saying... quote:Boeing also mischaracterized the investigation, the statement said, by describing it as an attempt to find the person responsible for fitting the door plug. ...and then the NTSB responding "No you shitfucks we're looking for the process that allowed this to happen, not a scapegoat for you to sacrifice in a news cycle of headlines and then pretend you can wash your hands clean for the next quarterly earnings report and mass casualty event". Other places, like the NPR piece I heard on the way in to work today, are outlining the other side of this strategy they've no doubt got a seven-to-eight-figure crisis management team running by pointing out that they're saying gee golly willickers they just can't find the paper work showing what happened no matter how hard they try to hide it or, better yet, never generate in the first place. Oh well if there's no proof then we can't be held responsible. Since that's just, kinda, how things work when you're a billionaire, a CEO or a corporation. Regular people though? I would've have been fist-hosed with a claw hammer of consequences if I put the wrong type of circle on the maintenance forms I filled out while I was doing air frame maintenance, and if anything ever happened that came out of our shop anyone in the entire compound that pissed hot that day during the ensuing witch hunt to find out who did what three years ago would be right beside me for mopping the floor while "high" and targetable. But this is what regulatory capture, legal bribery, money writing the laws, and a country run by the elite, for the elite looks like.
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Tiny Timbs posted:Break Boeing up That's what caused the issues: Boeing spun almost all of their production off into separate companies. If anything, they need to put Boeing back together.
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psydude posted:That's what caused the issues: Boeing spun almost all of their production off into separate companies. If anything, they need to put Boeing back together. Divisions and subsidiaries are still Boeing
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Supreme Court recap today: Complete gutting of the SEC's ability to levy civil fines because of a bullshit reading of Dodd-Frank by the comservatives. Now those agencies need to run jury trials to levy fines. Probably fucks up the NLRB, FTC, etc that relies on fast administrative judges to run fines. EPA's "good neighbor" policy is killed, so states catching pollution from neighboring states can't do poo poo about it. Idaho is stayed from enforcing their 100% abortion ban in regards to emergency abortions allowed by federal law, as per the leak yesterday. Basically, it's a technical punt to make Republicans not have to deal with the issue this election cycle, as they didn't decide anything on the merits. These were basically all ideological, a direct result of trump winning in 2016, in the event you're thinking about staying home. I drastically prefer their other decision today that was a complete 5-4 ideological clusterfuck that killed Purdue Pharma's bankruptcy.
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Tiny Timbs posted:Divisions and subsidiaries are still Boeing Spirit isn’t Boeing and that’s a large part of the problem with the 737.
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hobbesmaster posted:Spirit isn’t Boeing and that’s a large part of the problem with the 737. And the FAA outsourcing most of the regulatory compliance to the manufacturers themselves. And a gross abuse of what qualifies as a new airframe vs marginal expansion of an existing airframe. And… and… and… Shits hosed man. We’re living in the cyberpunk future, just not one of the cool ones.
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The purdue pharma case is an unambiguous win for anyone harmed by a big corporation. The texas-two step bankruptcy procedure has always been bullshit, and I'm glad it got tossed. Everything else today was awful including the EMTALA case because they're just delaying the outcome there where they rule in Idaho's favor in two years.
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Mr. Nice! posted:The purdue pharma case is an unambiguous win for anyone harmed by a big corporation. The texas-two step bankruptcy procedure has always been bullshit, and I'm glad it got tossed. This seems to be their entire strategy from the ground up on everything for the last few years. It hasn't escaped my notice how many and what cases they're ruling on the merits and which ones they're saying poo poo like "Oops nobody had standing on that guess we'll have to look at it again in a few years" or "Welp looks like you forgot to check the box in form 752.4(fe) subsection 9, re-file and come back See also: Is the president a king immune to laws. They're 1,000% banking on their pet dementia dictator getting in power and then tossing the idea of a country for anyone except their owners into an incinerator.
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hobbesmaster posted:Spirit isn’t Boeing and that’s a large part of the problem with the 737. It’s still an oversight problem enabled by Boeing’s status as this monolithic, too-big-to-fail company. If you rolled that back in you would just make things worse.
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I appreciate the boeing scandal for putting the phrase 'coutnerfeit titanium' in my head, which is a particularly horrifying set of words wrt air travel. or hell really anything requiring titanium
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Tiny Timbs posted:Divisions and subsidiaries are still Boeing They aren't subsidiaries nor divisions. They literally made standalone companies that they sold off and then contracted to manage various parts of the production chain. Here's a good article covering it: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a..._campaign=share Last Week Tonight did a segment on it as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8oCilY4szc The TLDR is that the problem isn't that Boeing is a monolithic company, it's that they've divested so much of the manufacturing of their airplanes that they really have no idea how they're made anymore. psydude fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Jun 27, 2024 |
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psydude posted:They aren't subsidiaries nor divisions. They literally made standalone companies that they sold off and then contracted to manage various parts of the production chain. Here's a good article covering it: I'm not above considering the idea that they're purposefully ignorant of how stuff is made anymore. Strategic ignorance works real good as a defense when you have $FuckingStupid lawyers on your side, as we're seeing right now in this door plug case. Probably just one more bonus in the evaluation criteria. I'm not money smart enough to come up with all the other ways that can probably do stuff like pervert the tax code to give them more money somehow.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:I appreciate the boeing scandal for putting the phrase 'coutnerfeit titanium' in my head, which is a particularly horrifying set of words wrt air travel. or hell really anything requiring titanium Lockmart had that problem with the titanium they used for the SR-71. Lockmart rejected over 80% of the titanium supplied as not meeting the specs in the contract. (Boeing would have accepted it and gotten a kickback)
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Soul Dentist posted:Sell Boeing to China The greatest invocation of lemon law in all of history, followed quickly by no takebacksies For some reason I guess I thought evo was still running bolivia
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facialimpediment posted:Supreme Court recap today: Gutting the three letter agency's powers to regulate corporations is honestly terrifying, trying to emulate the 1920s in the 2020s is not going to end well for anyone living in this country.
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Elviscat posted:Gutting the three letter agency's powers to regulate corporations is honestly terrifying, trying to emulate the 1920s in the 2020s is not going to end well for anyone living in this country.
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Elviscat posted:Gutting the three letter agency's powers to regulate corporations is honestly terrifying, trying to emulate the 1920s in the 2020s is not going to end well for anyone living in this country. Since it's been a few hours, The Takes have come out that the opinion supposedly doesn't reach THAT far, but sure puts all of it into question. The classic judicial accelerationist opinion where Roberts basically winks that he wants more cases to tackle those other agencies' administrative trial abilities. Which basically does the job by itself, tying it all into pretzels as corporations rampantly crime all over the place. Legal minds I consider reasonable have basically said that the opinion on its face makes sense - but only because the government has ALWAYS had this unconstitutional setup. This likely knocks regulatory policies back into 2010 (at best) or 1977 (at worst), which is classic Roberts Court bullshit. They always seem to fix the stuff to help corporations. Bored As gently caress posted:Biden needs to pack the court. I'll be forever frustrated that the easier route was 2016.
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Milo and POTUS posted:For some reason I guess I thought evo was still running bolivia Ironically he tried and failed at that.
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orange juche posted:Lockmart had that problem with the titanium they used for the SR-71. Lockmart rejected over 80% of the titanium supplied as not meeting the specs in the contract. Let's not confuse past Boeing with the one we've been left with after McDonnell-Douglas bought them with Boeing's own money.
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Madurai posted:Let's not confuse past Boeing with the one we've been left with after McDonnell-Douglas bought them with Boeing's own money. This is not what created the Boeing syndrome. What happened to Boeing is the same thing that happened to Mercedes Benz - the changing of the guard in leadership in the early 90s. Aka the old generation retired and the new blood with modern economics educations took over. That new generation? The Boomers.
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ThisIsJohnWayne posted:That new generation? The Boomers. Gonna go back in time to kill Hitler but not for the reason u think
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Madurai posted:Let's not confuse past Boeing with the one we've been left with after McDonnell-Douglas bought them with Boeing's own money. Yeah I should have specified modern Boeing, not 60s Boeing.
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Just a heads up - the debate starts in 40 minutes from this post and is *actually* happening. Biden and Trump are both there and everything. I'm not saying you should watch though  But if you do and Donnie sounds funny when he's yapping and it's not his turn, that's by design: https://twitter.com/VictorBlackwell/status/1806158863898460480
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facialimpediment posted:Just a heads up - the debate starts in 40 minutes from this post and is *actually* happening. Biden and Trump are both there and everything. Still not watching.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Still not watching. Neither am I. Intending to consume via twitter and bluesky in-between helldiving. If Biden does as well as I expect though, it'll be hilarious how many Republicans will accuse him of being hopped up on goofballs. Edit: https://twitter.com/IsaacDovere/status/1806487225057644548/photo/1 facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Jun 28, 2024 |
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Stultus Maximus posted:Still not watching.
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Nystral posted:And the FAA outsourcing most of the regulatory compliance to the manufacturers themselves. All cyberpunk is intensely dystopic. We just didn't get the chrome and artificial limbs, and the AI is really, really stupid. So yeah, not one of the cool ones.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Still not watching. I'm watching because I'm a sicko
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i plan to turn it on, watch 5-10 minutes, and then turn it off muttering 'what the hell did I expect'
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Stultus Maximus posted:Still not watching. Better tweet to link: https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1806489503479046409
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