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Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Well it’s my understanding that after Biden made it clear he was running again as the incumbent, the A list Democrats with presidential ambitions stood aside & didn’t launch campaigns. I think the idea was they’d have little chance, would irritate party leadership & donors, and would hurt their chances in 2028.

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maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned

Milo and POTUS posted:

I never trusted the eldar but theye're starting to look like the lesser of three evils

Hell even the dark Eldar have a very straightforward platform and you know you're not being lied to (make you into living furniture)

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

Tiny Timbs posted:

Since when does either party ditch its own incumbent?


fknlo posted:

I really just want to know how we got here. There wasn’t anyone else that could run besides Biden? No one?


Ask LBJ how well stepping away as the incumbent works for stopping a fascist Republican.
Ask Ted Kennedy how well mounting an aggressive primary challenge to the supposedly vulnerable incumbent works for stopping a fascist Republican.

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

Tiny Timbs posted:

Since when does either party ditch its own incumbent?

Democrats did that in 1968, and are extremely unlikely do so ever since.

Grip it and rip it
Apr 28, 2020
Biden can pull this out as long as he's not actually a complete husk of a person. Multiple live events with him engaging with the crowd and looking significantly more virile than he did on the debate stage should be about all it takes. You get him out and about and blame his illness and the format and I would think the damage could be minimized. Who knows if he's actually capable of that at this point though.

Pine Cone Jones
Dec 6, 2009

You throw me the acorn, I throw you the whip!
gently caress it, juice Biden up to make him look like Diamond Joe.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Hyrax Attack! posted:

Well it’s my understanding that after Biden made it clear he was running again as the incumbent, the A list Democrats with presidential ambitions stood aside & didn’t launch campaigns. I think the idea was they’d have little chance, would irritate party leadership & donors, and would hurt their chances in 2028.

So they're cowards. Pragmatic cowards, but still. Is there anybody under the age of 50 60 waiting in the wings for the dems. It seems the GOP is lousy with young, hungry bloodsuckers

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

Hyrax Attack! posted:

Well it’s my understanding that after Biden made it clear he was running again as the incumbent, the A list Democrats with presidential ambitions stood aside & didn’t launch campaigns. I think the idea was they’d have little chance, would irritate party leadership & donors, and would hurt their chances in 2028.

Yep. Biden would've had to either be explicit that he was done after one term (he never did, might've implied it a few times at most), or sucked as a president (he hasn't!) to get Democrats to throw in. There were lots and lots and lots of Doctored Biden videos by the RNC/Trump, then he'd do a big thing like an interview, SOTU speech, or whatever and that would get tamped down.

This debate was the first time Doctored Biden 100% fully showed up.

Grip it and rip it posted:

Biden can pull this out as long as he's not actually a complete husk of a person. Multiple live events with him engaging with the crowd and looking significantly more virile than he did on the debate stage should be about all it takes. You get him out and about and blame his illness and the format and I would think the damage could be minimized. Who knows if he's actually capable of that at this point though.

Yeah that's about it. A lot of this could already be priced in, but a big ol' TBD if he can do it.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Pine Cone Jones posted:

gently caress it, juice Biden up to make him look like Diamond Joe.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

Mr. Nice! posted:

Also SCOTUS just gave the green light for states/cities to ban homeless people.

And there goes Chevron, just because they could do it and 2016 happened. 6-2 with Jackson recused, so it was extra super toast.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Stultus Maximus posted:

Ask LBJ how well stepping away as the incumbent works for stopping a fascist Republican.


I’m clearly not up to date on Sirhan Sirhan conspiracy theories

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

facialimpediment posted:

And there goes Chevron, just because they could do it and 2016 happened. 6-2 with Jackson recused, so it was extra super toast.

6-3 for one case and 6-2 for the others. It was a consolidated set of cases. Not that it matters. This combined with the SEC ruling yesterday means the administrative state is dead and the courts decide everything from now on. John Roberts runs the country.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
Whole lot of Jan. 6th convictions just got tossed.

e: at least 20 have also been convicted under this same statute. it isn't the majority of cases, though.

Mr. Nice! fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Jun 28, 2024

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
who knew that the party that rolled over and played dead since Gore was not up to the challenge. at least decorum was maintained.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

Mr. Nice! posted:

Whole lot of Jan. 6th convictions just got tossed.

e: at least 20 have also been convicted under this same statute. it isn't the majority of cases, though.

The key bit appears to be if the Jackson concurrence actually has power. She set out a pretty clear roadmap - it's based on documents. So, if the person was trying to stop Congress from processing the electoral count, their prosecution can still be live.

Also supposedly on the Chevron toss-out, the Roberts opinion said that everything relying on Chevron up to this point was still good and doesn't need to be overturned. That naturally won't hold in the more conservative circuits!

Edit: Garland sure thinks the Jackson concurrence is live and only affects the margins, like sentencing.

https://x.com/AaronBlake/status/1806710678859760021?s=19

facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Jun 28, 2024

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May
The Court had to revise its opinion demolishing Chevron because the guy who thinks courts should be in charge of interpreting environmental regulations doesn't know the difference between NO2 and N2O.

pmchem
Jan 22, 2010

related, this 3-tweet rant,

https://x.com/m_c_klein/status/1806736913182974124

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
Please yell if these folks put together another PSA, as I think this is all still recycled footage from past years :smith:

https://x.com/USCPSC/status/1806744465417109933?s=19

Mustang
Jun 18, 2006

“We don’t really know where this goes — and I’m not sure we really care.”
Whatever that was it seems to no longer exist.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


https://x.com/JudiciaryDems/status/1806726120835846424?t=QdMOB66XBClY85LmtGHteQ&s=19

drat bro, that seems bad. If only there was another branch of government that could investigate and hold hearing about stuff. Oh well, guess we just have to wait until the bad Justices die due to [redacted]

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing,”

financial collapse? look forward, not back.
supreme court hosed? packing the courts isn't an option.

cool that one of our two parties are straight up murderous fascists and the other party are a bunch of do-nothing morons

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
haha Steve Bannon is going to jail

https://x.com/chrisgeidner/status/1806759784655602135?s=19

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003


'25 year old law clerk' has got to be up there with 'counterfeit titanium' for phrases that just fill you with confidence

Grip it and rip it
Apr 28, 2020

Herstory Begins Now posted:

'25 year old law clerk' has got to be up there with 'counterfeit titanium' for phrases that just fill you with confidence

Only the pastiest of freaks, who have never had a real job in their life, manage to clerk for republicans justices. They'll be deciding which regulations are reasonable and which ones aren't!

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010
Av blanked by Admin request.
https://x.com/madrid_mike/status/1806752820303126811
https://x.com/BidenHQ/status/1806806060679778594/photo/1

All remaining SCOTUS decisions, including presidential immunity, drop Monday.

CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Jun 28, 2024

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Nick Soapdish posted:

https://x.com/JudiciaryDems/status/1806726120835846424?t=QdMOB66XBClY85LmtGHteQ&s=19

drat bro, that seems bad. If only there was another branch of government that could investigate and hold hearing about stuff. Oh well, guess we just have to wait until the bad Justices die due to [redacted]

lol these dipshits will cry about hypocrisy and decorum all the way to the end

Why should he have recused himself? There’s no governance of his position. There are no ethics regulations he’s violating.

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar
classic case of IOKIYAR

Pine Cone Jones
Dec 6, 2009

You throw me the acorn, I throw you the whip!
If presidential immunity does get granted, it would be horrible if Biden ran trump over with a Corvette

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp

Pine Cone Jones posted:

If presidential immunity does get granted, it would be horrible if Biden ran trump over with a Corvette

just walks up and decks Trump at the next debate.

god if only

golden bubble
Jun 3, 2011

yospos

Milo and POTUS posted:

So they're cowards. Pragmatic cowards, but still. Is there anybody under the age of 50 60 waiting in the wings for the dems. It seems the GOP is lousy with young, hungry bloodsuckers

Normies think almost all of those young, hungry bloodsuckers are nuts, but that doesn't hurt them as badly because everyone expects a GOP candidate to be at least 50% nuts nowadays. Young rising stars in the Democratic party have to overcome a much higher bar.

stealie72
Jan 10, 2007

golden bubble posted:

Normies think almost all of those young, hungry bloodsuckers are nuts, but that doesn't hurt them as badly because everyone expects a GOP candidate to be at least 50% nuts nowadays. Young rising stars in the Democratic party have to overcome a much higher bar.
And then be shut out by the boomer ghouls who control the party.

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Acebuckeye13 posted:

just walks up and decks Trump at the next debate.

god if only

Monday night a slightly confused Bill Clinton murders 17 people.

Dubya just starts walking around with a human skull

Obama has a press conference and disembowels McConnel

That Works fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Jun 29, 2024

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

Pine Cone Jones posted:

If presidential immunity does get granted, it would be horrible if Biden ran trump over with a Corvette

biden is more likely to get the gas and brake pedals confused and crush someone to death between his car and a wall.

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made American Products. Bitch.
thats why you guys gotta reelect him, if hes president he isnt driving

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010
Av blanked by Admin request.

Pine Cone Jones posted:

If presidential immunity does get granted, it would be horrible if Biden ran trump over with a Corvette

It could be YEARS before he'd be put on trial for it! And, oh wait, he's going to be 86 at the end of his next term. He may NEVER face justice!

Aw shucks.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Pine Cone Jones posted:

If presidential immunity does get granted, it would be horrible if Biden ran trump over with a Corvette

Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine

That Works posted:

Dubya just starts walking around with a human skull

I've seen this act before. It's called "Bush-Cheney 2004" and the gag is that the skull is actually the one in charge.

Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.


Alas, poor Cheney. I knew him, H— wait what do you mean he's still alive

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Quackles posted:

Alas, poor Cheney. I knew him, H— wait what do you mean he's still alive

lmao

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Steezo
Jun 16, 2003

Quackles posted:

Alas, poor Cheney. I knew him, H— wait what do you mean he's still alive

Imagine what Hunter Thompson would have done with the knowledge that Cheney was kept alive with a screw shaped heart.

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