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yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

Freaking Crumbum posted:

no, i think i still see cube trying to "power up" as a bigger woof flag than marimo being awkwardly straight with words

##vote cube
I’m agreeing with Mr. Horse on both counts here (Molly and Cube.)

##vote Cube

I’m out until later, naptime did happen eventually (hooray!) and now we’re going swimming :sun:

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CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Ugh I need to spreadsheet this game already. This item nonsense will probably be really clear once it's all on paper.

votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop
Votecount for Day 2

xxxxxOO CubicalSucrose (2): yuming, Freaking Crumbum, yuming, Freaking Crumbum, Freaking Crumbum, yuming
xxxxxxO Rhymes With Clue (1): yuming, Freaking Crumbum, Toalpaz, Freaking Crumbum, yuming
xxxxxxO yuming (1): Toalpaz, Toalpaz, mollyohreally
xxxxxxO Freaking Crumbum (1): Rhymes With Clue, mollyohreally, mollyohreally
xxxxxxx kaschei (0): yuming, yuming
xxxxxxx mollyohreally (0): Freaking Crumbum, Freaking Crumbum


Not voting: CubicalSucrose, Grandicap, GulagDolls, kaschei, MockingQuantum, Sandwolf, Tired Moritz

With 12 alive, it's 7 votes to execute. The current deadline is July 06th, 2024 at 4 p.m. CDT -- that's in about 22 hours, 28 minutes.

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



kaschei posted:

Do you buy yuming's basis for voting me given all that? Does it seem like she's thinking like how a town player would want to use a weak killing role? I don't think it does.

No, I thought the framing is pretty shaky, I'm not sure that I feel totally okay with your claim but based on your response I think it's much less likely you're scum than yuming here.

##vote yuming

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



I wouldn't rule out "cursed inventor" as a 3p role but idk how likely that is at this player count

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

MockingQuantum posted:

I wouldn't rule out "cursed inventor" as a 3p role but idk how likely that is at this player count
We have kascheis bad items, my failure items, and Moritz asking for his items back and you decide I’m scum?

Don’t like this vote.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Freaking Crumbum posted:

okay i thought about it for a second & this is a pretty solid town claim, imo

scum team rarely needs deadchat

##unvote

Last time there was one (I think), it was Sand as a 3P SK in Opop's Cartoon All-Stars.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Grandicap posted:

I know the hider item did not prevent last night's kill. It was either the rb or the doc.

This suggests one of:
- Grandi had the Hider N1 and didn't use it.
- Grandi gave away the Hider N0 and has some way of knowing if their items get used or not.
- [Something else I'm not thinking of]

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Tired Moritz posted:

I'm confirming another way to stop the kill

BP is one thing that comes to mind. Sounds like there might be others.

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

this can all be solved if you give your items to me

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

CubicalSucrose posted:

This suggests one of:
- Grandi had the Hider N1 and didn't use it.
- Grandi gave away the Hider N0 and has some way of knowing if their items get used or not.
- [Something else I'm not thinking of]

Are inventor actions compulsive? I suppose it's also plausible that Grandi could have given out a Hider N0 but did NOT give it away for some reason.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
Actually you know what ##vote RWC

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

CubicalSucrose posted:

Are inventor actions compulsive? I suppose it's also plausible that Grandi could have given out a Hider N0 but did NOT give it away for some reason.
I will check.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

I am not an inventor. I currently have an item. It was not given to me by any of the three claimed inventors (Kaschei, TMor, Yuming).

Given how the OP reads, I assume that it was given to me by one of the two unclaimed inventors since I got it during the night. It was NOT a Hider (that was what Kaschei gave away).

If I am in danger of dying, I will use the item-related "GIVE" private day action to give the item away to someone else.

If I am not in danger of dying, I might pass it off to someone else anyway, since I have a separate night action that I can use and might be more useful, depends on how the day progresses.

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

CubicalSucrose posted:

I am not an inventor. I currently have an item. It was not given to me by any of the three claimed inventors (Kaschei, TMor, Yuming).

Given how the OP reads, I assume that it was given to me by one of the two unclaimed inventors since I got it during the night. It was NOT a Hider (that was what Kaschei gave away).

If I am in danger of dying, I will use the item-related "GIVE" private day action to give the item away to someone else.

If I am not in danger of dying, I might pass it off to someone else anyway, since I have a separate night action that I can use and might be more useful, depends on how the day progresses.

give NOW

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

oh deadline kinda soon huh. I'm not really feeling any of these cases. might have to bust out a tried and true tactic

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

does anyone know one

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



yuming posted:

We have kascheis bad items, my failure items, and Moritz asking for his items back and you decide I’m scum?

Don’t like this vote.

I found kaschei's argument to make sense and felt towny, TMor is... being TMor and I'm neutral on him at this point. your votes and case for kaschei felt scummy to me, simple as that

I feel like we don't have enough mechanical info at this point to know with any certainty how "towny" the bad or failure items are anyway

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



GulagDolls posted:

does anyone know one

I recommend en passant, or a powerslam

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

woof pack
dank buds
galaxy brain
anarchy reigns

CubicalSucrose posted:

Last time there was one (I think), it was Sand as a 3P SK in Opop's Cartoon All-Stars.

this is FUDD cube

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

woof pack
dank buds
galaxy brain
anarchy reigns
whether it's factually accurate or not

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

woof pack
dank buds
galaxy brain
anarchy reigns
that's TWICE this game cube has immediately thrown out a slightly ominous excuse for being caught doing scum stuff

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

Rhymes With Clue posted:

On mobile. I got a message from a ghost, shwinnebego. His message to the thread is that he has confidence in town, despite D2, and believes town will leverage D1 events to find the truth. Believes he was somewhat hasty in scumreading yuming, but more scumreading crumbum, and says don't underestimate molly.

This is paraphrased and is shwinn's thoughts not mine, although I share some of them.
This message has to be fake.

When did you receive it?

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Freaking Crumbum posted:

that's TWICE this game cube has immediately thrown out a slightly ominous excuse for being caught doing scum stuff

What scum stuff was I doing? What ominous excuse did I give?

mollyohreally
Jan 10, 2020

Freaking Crumbum posted:

this extremely sounds like a sulking wolf, sad that town did not directly reveal a power role to her

like u see that right poovey

when have I ever sulked as wolf

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
DAE think RWC’s message is a lie?

Do the math.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

yuming posted:

This message has to be fake.

When did you receive it?


yuming posted:

DAE think RWC’s message is a lie?

Do the math.

Why does it have to be fake? It seems thematic.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
Whoever sent/fabricated the message didn’t do their homework.

That’s as far as I want to explicitly say since it is a gotcha.

But there’s no way shwinn sent the message imo.

mollyohreally
Jan 10, 2020

yuming posted:

Whoever sent/fabricated the message didn’t do their homework.

That’s as far as I want to explicitly say since it is a gotcha.

But there’s no way shwinn sent the message imo.

drat this is bold

##unvote for now

mollyohreally
Jan 10, 2020

actually I wanna ##vote gulagdolls because like 90% of their posts is just asking for items and I don’t vibe with this

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
Yea that is my other issue with MQs vote: we have two players only participating in relation to items (Gulag and Moritz) and he votes me.

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

mollyohreally posted:

actually I wanna ##vote gulagdolls because like 90% of their posts is just asking for items and I don’t vibe with this

give me your items

Rhymes With Clue
Nov 18, 2010

A lady of nobility, gentility, and rage

yuming posted:

This message has to be fake.

When did you receive it?

Start of day. It doesn't seem fake to me. Why would it be fake?

Rhymes With Clue
Nov 18, 2010

A lady of nobility, gentility, and rage

yuming posted:

DAE think RWC’s message is a lie?

Do the math.

I don't follow math that well, could you just explain it?

I don't think it's a lie. I don't think it's a fake message from an ill-wishing messenger. I didn't make it up, although I did paraphrase a bit.

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

Rhymes With Clue posted:

Start of day. It doesn't seem fake to me. Why would it be fake?

Rhymes With Clue posted:

On mobile. I got a message from a ghost, shwinnebego. His message to the thread is that he has confidence in town, despite D2, and believes town will leverage D1 events to find the truth. Believes he was somewhat hasty in scumreading yuming, but more scumreading crumbum, and says don't underestimate molly.

This is paraphrased and is shwinn's thoughts not mine, although I share some of them.

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

##vote rhymes with clue

obviously synthesized something without thinking through when it would have to have been sent

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

kaschei posted:

##vote rhymes with clue

obviously synthesized something without thinking through when it would have to have been sent
Yes, I think that is the fairplay catch on it.

It doesn't check out with the timeline in thread.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

Rhymes With Clue posted:

Start of day. It doesn't seem fake to me. Why would it be fake?
If you didn't fake the message I invite you to think about why shwinn couldn't have sent the message.

If you didn't fake it, it was probably your #1 suspect Crumbum so use this to catch him~

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



##vote rwc

good catch, I felt like something was weird about the message but didn't piece that together at all

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kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

if he didn't fake it why didn't he wonder about why start-of-day2 shwinn was already ruing day2

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