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kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

The "NK is a free action" in the OP leads me to conclude that other actions are not free

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Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

kaschei posted:

As long as no one is lying in this game of social deception... where is your paranoia?

molly has confirmed that "dangerous" items exist (mine)
Tired Moritz's item is "mystifying" and I infer that might have something to do with the lack of a death, I have passed on the one I was handed N1
yuming claims her items are "organic" and have a chance to fail (and something about giving them away makes them more prone to failure?)

Sandwolf had the roleblock from N0 (per me)
Gulag has the "dubious" roleblock per grandi
molly has the dangerous Hide from N1 but should [at least WIFOM] pass it on

I have paranoia. But it doesn't make sense to lie about dumb things as scum. It only serves to trap you later.
And the rb that gulag has is organic.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

CubicalSucrose posted:

I don't have a lot of availability ahead of deadline but I have a "Dubious" doc item. I don't know who gave it to me other than "probably not Gulag" and maybe probably not one other person.

I'll give it away to someone if necessary. I don't know what Dubious means.

The dubious item is Cube's doc.

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

Woops!

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

So we have:
Dangerous
Mystifying
Organic
Dubious
<<OTHER>>

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

Grandicap posted:

So we have:
Dangerous kaschei
Mystifying tired moritz
Organic yuming
Dubious ???
<<OTHER>> Scumbo

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

Let's do item analysis tomorrow and vote cube today

mollyohreally
Jan 10, 2020

Grandicap posted:

Molly is a lean town for me right now. The only thing that really pinged me negatively was

Which ties back into

So if Molly has never been scum, Crumbum would have never seen her sulk as scum by definition. It feels a bit like a logic trap type thing. Not very strong scum feels here, but they do exist. The rest of her content feels town leaning though, would not vote here unless it was vs one of my stronger town reads.


to be clear, the “never been scum” was me joking around w horse who I have played many games with but it is true both that I am town this game and never sulk when scum

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

mollyohreally posted:

to be clear, the “never been scum” was me joking around w horse who I have played many games with but it is true both that I am town this game and never sulk when scum

Good to know. Never played with either of you and took it at face value.

Also, you should try sulking as scum, it can be cathartic :sun:

mollyohreally
Jan 10, 2020

about to be away until probably after deadline. Any strong reason I should vote someone besides sand

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

Cubes d1 and unforced mystery claim

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

mollyohreally posted:

about to be away until probably after deadline. Any strong reason I should vote someone besides sand

Sand probably town, and definitely mod killed with literally 0 d2 posts.

mollyohreally
Jan 10, 2020

Grandicap posted:

Sand probably town, and definitely mod killed with literally 0 d2 posts.

I 0% buy the “no posts means he’s town” argument but “probably gonna get mod killed anyways” is reasonably compelling I guess

##vote cube

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

I can recharge previous item uses. This is a useless power N1 which is why I wanted to be able to self-doc.

votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop
Votecount for Day 2

xxxOOOO CubicalSucrose (4): yuming, Freaking Crumbum, yuming, Freaking Crumbum, Freaking Crumbum, yuming, yuming, kaschei, Freaking Crumbum, Grandicap, MockingQuantum, mollyohreally
xxxxOOO Sandwolf (3): yuming, mollyohreally, CubicalSucrose, Freaking Crumbum, mollyohreally
xxxxxxO Rhymes With Clue (1): yuming, Freaking Crumbum, Toalpaz, Freaking Crumbum, yuming, yuming, kaschei, MockingQuantum, MockingQuantum, yuming, kaschei
xxxxxxO Freaking Crumbum (1): Rhymes With Clue, mollyohreally, mollyohreally
xxxxxxx kaschei (0): yuming, yuming
xxxxxxx yuming (0): Toalpaz, Toalpaz, mollyohreally, MockingQuantum, mollyohreally, MockingQuantum
xxxxxxx Grandicap (0): Freaking Crumbum, Freaking Crumbum
xxxxxxx GulagDolls (0): mollyohreally, mollyohreally
xxxxxxx mollyohreally (0): Freaking Crumbum, Freaking Crumbum


Not voting: GulagDolls, Sandwolf, Tired Moritz

With 12 alive, it's 7 votes to execute. The current deadline is July 06th, 2024 at 4 p.m. CDT -- that's in about 1 hour, 52 minutes.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

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mollyohreally
Jan 10, 2020

CubicalSucrose posted:

I can recharge previous item uses. This is a useless power N1 which is why I wanted to be able to self-doc.

goddammit why u spring this when I have to drive to the airport

mollyohreally
Jan 10, 2020

guess I’ll go back to ##vote sandwolf cos I’m not gonna have time to think through this claim thing

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

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anarchy reigns

mollyohreally posted:

when have I ever sulked as wolf

jesus, what was the last game where ur NK was blocked by me being unkillable? that one

ur right tho that at the speed BnR has moved lately, it may have been like an IRL year ago

why is my brain

mollyohreally
Jan 10, 2020

Freaking Crumbum posted:

jesus, what was the last game where ur NK was blocked by me being unkillable? that one

ur right tho that at the speed BnR has moved lately, it may have been like an IRL year ago

why is my brain

Oh lol i fully do not remember that but i suppose that i did sulk as wolf once then

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

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dank buds
galaxy brain
anarchy reigns

kaschei posted:

The "NK is a free action" in the OP leads me to conclude that other actions are not free

yeah, which also means tgat anyone claiming they did TWO things is, definitionally, scum

who has confessed to doing TWO things on the same night??

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

woof pack
dank buds
galaxy brain
anarchy reigns

CubicalSucrose posted:

I can recharge previous item uses. This is a useless power N1 which is why I wanted to be able to self-doc.

this is NOT a hard town claim, imo

scum might find an item they like to have recharged too!!

mollyohreally
Jan 10, 2020

Freaking Crumbum posted:

this is NOT a hard town claim, imo

scum might find an item they like to have recharged too!!

yeah for sure
I just find it interesting enough it gives me pause about voting him

especially when I wasn’t sure if I was gonna be done driving by 4 and how late my boyfriends plane was gonna be

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

woof pack
dank buds
galaxy brain
anarchy reigns
what's funny is that i really enjoy grandi, now that i get they're doing the same bit with just a different character

my soft-read is they're too overtly-kind-comforting, which is crafted for a specific reason

it will always ping me as a soft-scum character tho

mollyohreally
Jan 10, 2020

Oh loving. 4pm central I gotta keep my timezone straight

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

woof pack
dank buds
galaxy brain
anarchy reigns

yuming posted:

Rereading an I find myself agreeing with this take :sparkles:

if sand is flipped / Mod Kill / etc. / as scum

yuming agreeing w/ me in this post feels like a scum looking for town cred seed being planted

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)

Grandicap posted:

Sand not speaking at all means he's town. As scum he'd feel guilt for letting his team down, no matter how busy with 4th stuff he is and would put together at least a token effort.

This is the wrongest take. Sandwolf lurk as scum all the time

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
##vote sandwolf

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
About to BBQ happy with this vote.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Going to be driving, probably not likely to be here at the end of day.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
Very sus on anyone not passing items to me smhsmsmmsmsmsmsmmsmsmsmsmsmsmsmh

Rhymes With Clue
Nov 18, 2010

A lady of nobility, gentility, and rage

Tired Moritz posted:

Very sus on anyone not passing items to me smhsmsmmsmsmsmsmmsmsmsmsmsmsmsmh

Why you want all items? IS this your 3P wincon?

votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop
Votecount for Day 2

xxOOOOO Sandwolf (5): yuming, mollyohreally, CubicalSucrose, Freaking Crumbum, mollyohreally, mollyohreally, Tired Moritz
xxxxOOO CubicalSucrose (3): yuming, Freaking Crumbum, yuming, Freaking Crumbum, Freaking Crumbum, yuming, yuming, kaschei, Freaking Crumbum, Grandicap, MockingQuantum, mollyohreally, mollyohreally
xxxxxxO Rhymes With Clue (1): yuming, Freaking Crumbum, Toalpaz, Freaking Crumbum, yuming, yuming, kaschei, MockingQuantum, MockingQuantum, yuming, kaschei
xxxxxxO Freaking Crumbum (1): Rhymes With Clue, mollyohreally, mollyohreally
xxxxxxx kaschei (0): yuming, yuming
xxxxxxx yuming (0): Toalpaz, Toalpaz, mollyohreally, MockingQuantum, mollyohreally, MockingQuantum
xxxxxxx Grandicap (0): Freaking Crumbum, Freaking Crumbum
xxxxxxx GulagDolls (0): mollyohreally, mollyohreally
xxxxxxx mollyohreally (0): Freaking Crumbum, Freaking Crumbum


Not voting: GulagDolls, Sandwolf

With 12 alive, it's 7 votes to execute. The current deadline is July 06th, 2024 at 4 p.m. CDT -- that's in about 38 minutes.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
I only want my items because I think it's bad if scum has them

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

give me moritz's items

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

I need two best cases summarized NOW

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

cube
- weird d1with almost no content
- super early softclaim

sandwolf
- hasn't posted d2
- voted for cube in a kind of weird way end of d1

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

I'm not at all clear with how Cube's claimed role would work with the mechanics of dangerous items (does recharging them make them dangerous again?)

what if someone used multiple items, which ones get recharged? Sounds like an easy thing to work out in scumchat!

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

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anarchy reigns

kaschei posted:

Sounds like an easy thing to work out in scumchat!

right, hence cube managing to split the vote vs sand, apparently

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horse.
Apr 17, 2003

woof pack
dank buds
galaxy brain
anarchy reigns
here's the No Lunch we're stumbling towards, at this rate:

Votecount for Day 2

xxOOOOO Sandwolf (5): yuming, mollyohreally, CubicalSucrose, Freaking Crumbum, mollyohreally, mollyohreally, Tired Moritz
xxxxOOO CubicalSucrose (3): yuming, Freaking Crumbum, yuming, Freaking Crumbum, Freaking Crumbum, yuming, yuming, kaschei, Freaking Crumbum, Grandicap, MockingQuantum, mollyohreally, mollyohreally
xxxxxxO Rhymes With Clue (1): yuming, Freaking Crumbum, Toalpaz, Freaking Crumbum, yuming, yuming, kaschei, MockingQuantum, MockingQuantum, yuming, kaschei
xxxxxxO Freaking Crumbum (1): Rhymes With Clue, mollyohreally, mollyohreally
xxxxxxx kaschei (0): yuming, yuming
xxxxxxx yuming (0): Toalpaz, Toalpaz, mollyohreally, MockingQuantum, mollyohreally, MockingQuantum
xxxxxxx Grandicap (0): Freaking Crumbum, Freaking Crumbum
xxxxxxx GulagDolls (0): mollyohreally, mollyohreally
xxxxxxx mollyohreally (0): Freaking Crumbum, Freaking Crumbum


Not voting: GulagDolls, Sandwolf

With 12 alive, it's 7 votes to execute. The current deadline is July 06th, 2024 at 4 p.m. CDT -- that's in about 19 minutes.
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toalpaz & RWC - what r u doing w/ ur votes here? lazy scum?

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