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yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
Gulag is caught scum.

I think MQ is our next best bet.

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Rhymes With Clue
Nov 18, 2010

A lady of nobility, gentility, and rage
Alrighty. ##Vote GulagDolls

Rhymes With Clue
Nov 18, 2010

A lady of nobility, gentility, and rage
I'm obvioulsy for voting GulagDolls, change my mind!

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



yuming posted:

Gulag is caught scum.

I think MQ is our next best bet.

I agree, except I think you meant TMor instead of me

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



Rhymes With Clue posted:

I'm obvioulsy for voting GulagDolls, change my mind!

No thanks, I think it's a great idea

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



Oh right I failed to do a test vote but successfully unvoted somehow

##vote GulagDolls again

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

Toalpaz just not posting today I guess

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

Rhymes With Clue posted:

Well I think we are gonna have to kill you. Because of course you'd say this if you were town, but also if you were scum.

If you turn up not to be scum then we get yuming tomorrow. Right?

idk

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

at this point I suspect an item saboteur. just because it's the kind of thing I would put in the game

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

if it's yuming then I got rused really hard. I don't really think it's in her character.

Rhymes With Clue
Nov 18, 2010

A lady of nobility, gentility, and rage
Grandi gave yuming this item. I don't think anyone else has used a Grandi-upgraded item. But I also don't think the mods would lie to Grandi about the effects of his item.

Also I think when players will show up as the opposite alignment if investigated, they know.

So either there was some kind of switcheroo, or yuming is presenting a fake result.

Or an item saboteur I guess is possible, I don't think it's likely.

Or GulagDolls is llying about his alignment.

GulagDolls
Jun 4, 2011

i'd be disappointed if there was no item sabotage in this game. it'd be the funniest way to gently caress with night action bingo

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)

MockingQuantum posted:

I agree, except I think you meant TMor instead of me

Why to both questions. Why me and why MQ

I think my targets have been mostly townie and verifiable

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

Rhymes With Clue posted:

Grandi gave yuming this item. I don't think anyone else has used a Grandi-upgraded item. But I also don't think the mods would lie to Grandi about the effects of his item.

Also I think when players will show up as the opposite alignment if investigated, they know.

So either there was some kind of switcheroo, or yuming is presenting a fake result.

Or an item saboteur I guess is possible, I don't think it's likely.

Or GulagDolls is llying about his alignment.
Grandi gave toalpaz a hider+redirect which toalpaz claimed to use N2.

Grandi claimed his N1 dispense to Sandwolf was nerfed to be just a plain rolecop, I suspect this has to do with Toalpaz' role? which is another reason I'd like to hear from her.

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

##vote gulagdolls
:redhammer:

votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop
:redhammer: There was a GulagDolls here. They're gone now.

Votecount for Day 4

OOOO GulagDolls (4): yuming, MockingQuantum, Tired Moritz, Tired Moritz, MockingQuantum, Rhymes With Clue, MockingQuantum, kaschei
xxxx kaschei (0): kaschei, kaschei


Not voting: GulagDolls, Tired Moritz, Toalpaz

With 7 alive, it's 4 votes to execute. The current deadline is July 13th, 2024 at 3 p.m. CDT -- that's in about 1 day, 3 hours.

wologar
Feb 11, 2014

What? But how!? All your trinkets were perfectly calibrated, your cards creaseless, your mind spotless. There must have been an external force, pushing through your defenses, nibbling at your bibelots, rearranging the ley lines...

GulagDolls, SCUM-aligned Clairvoyant, did not see it coming!

quote:

Third eye, chakra, aura reading. You name it, you've done it. You are a master of soul reading, and nothing escapes your perceptive eye. Especially not gullible people. Put on a show, read their inner desires, tell them what they want to hear, and money just flows your way, with the added satisfaction of a job well done. But that doesn't mean you can't do it whenever it really matters...

You are Flamejaw Lifehaze, SCUM-aligned Clairvoyant!

When you receive an item by any means, you will passively be fully informed of all its attached effects.

You win when scum have unassailable control over the vote.

It's now Night 4. 24 hours for night actions!

Shellception
Oct 12, 2016

ALL THINGS THAT ARE ARE OURS. BUT WE MUST CARE. FOR IF WE DO NOT CARE, WE DO NOT EXIST. IF WE DO NOT EXIST, THEN THERE IS NOTHING BUT BLIND OBLIVION.

AND EVEN OBLIVION MUST END SOMEDAY.
The fair opened up a bit more silent. Tired Moritz, a promising young entrepeneur, seemed to have packed up their stuff in the night and disappeared without a word. Some said they were gone on a fishing trip with a relative, but rumours were abundant, and no one knew what to believe...

Tired Moritz, Rhythmsister Spacedropper, TOWN-aligned Misunderstood Genius Inventor has packed up and left N4!

quote:

You're special. Your granny said so, your mom said so, and your teachers said so. You've loved tinkering with things from a young age, and even though you don't have a formal education background, you are just born for this, you know? Who needs books when you have a heart and the blessings of the Universe. You're here to share your luck with other people, and maybe, just maybe, land yourself a job for once!

You are Rhythmsister Spacedropper, TOWN-aligned Misunderstood Genius Inventor!

By night, you can ##Hand an item to a player of your choice. You will be notified of the nature of the item (from the pool of 1x doc, 1x watch, 1x rolecop, 1x roleblock, 1x hider) at the start of the night. Items you hand out will have an extra, randomized effect added:

Turn player bulletproof the night they use it
Make them lose their vote next day
Make them also steal the vote from their target for next day
Give them a stack of hated for the next day
Make them cop as the inverse of their original alignment for the night they use it

Neither you nor the recipient will be informed of the effect attached to the item. Your items will look "mystifying" to any recipients.

You win when all threats to town have been eliminated.

It is now Day 5!

votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop
Votecount for Day 5



Not voting: kaschei, MockingQuantum, Rhymes With Clue, Toalpaz, yuming

With 5 alive, it's 3 votes to execute. The current deadline is July 15th, 2024 at 3 p.m. CDT -- that's in about 1 day, 22 hours.

Rhymes With Clue
Nov 18, 2010

A lady of nobility, gentility, and rage
Scum GulagDolls left a message. (I did not expect one.)

It's an MP4 file. I am hoping I can be smart enough to post it here at some point.

(It is cute, but nto particularly helpful)

Meanwhile, TiredMoritz "used a mystifying watch on yuming last night, " which failed, and "held a dub watch and roleblock." mystifying roleblock was his N4 item and his action failed last night. Believes MQ should be (or will be, not entirely clear) elminated next.

I also watched yuming last night and my action failed.

Rhymes With Clue
Nov 18, 2010

A lady of nobility, gentility, and rage
I am kind of leaning toward eliminating MQ. But whatever happened to Toalpaz? :iiam:

Rhymes With Clue
Nov 18, 2010

A lady of nobility, gentility, and rage
Okay let's see if this works: (GulagDolls last message)
https://streamable.com/2pkest

Rhymes With Clue
Nov 18, 2010

A lady of nobility, gentility, and rage
If you don't want to follow that link, the message is "Change da world. My final message. Goodbye." And there is a cat.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
Would love to play with you more Gulag, love the av :sparkles:

I used a hider from Moritz last night. Im not sure if any of the RNG effects happened.

Lemme test this ##vote Mocking Quantum

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

Let's test if you're hated

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
No thanks :sparkles:

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

If toalpaz doesn't give away the dangerous item I gave her N3 and isn't scum, wrong execute has a decent chance of losing

If she is around and not scum she should hand the executed her item as she hammers

I think it is mq but wouldn't mind another chance if we're wrong

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

"held a dub watch and roleblock" leaves it ambiguous if the rb was dubious or not and it isn't clear when he received them

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



kaschei posted:

"held a dub watch and roleblock" leaves it ambiguous if the rb was dubious or not and it isn't clear when he received them

The RB was likely mine from N3, so yeah dubious

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

kaschei posted:

If toalpaz doesn't give away the dangerous item I gave her N3 and isn't scum, wrong execute has a decent chance of losing

If she is around and not scum she should hand the executed her item as she hammers

I think it is mq but wouldn't mind another chance if we're wrong
Good to know. I am p confident about MQ here but I was also confident about Grandi and FK so...

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

kaschei posted:

If toalpaz doesn't give away the dangerous item I gave her N3 and isn't scum, wrong execute has a decent chance of losing

If she is around and not scum she should hand the executed her item as she hammers

I think it is mq but wouldn't mind another chance if we're wrong

i didnt get any items n3, tm would have gotten it

Rhymes With Clue
Nov 18, 2010

A lady of nobility, gentility, and rage

Toalpaz posted:

i didnt get any items n3, tm would have gotten it

How do you know TM would have gotten it?

How do you feel about kaschei today?

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
##unvote

Still my #1 suspect but I'm gonna reread the game.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination

Rhymes With Clue posted:

How do you know TM would have gotten it?

How do you feel about kaschei today?

its a special puzzle for you to figure out

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

RWC what flavor was the watch you used

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

Toalpaz posted:

i didnt get any items n3, tm would have gotten it

Why TM?

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

kaschei posted:

RWC what flavor was the watch you used

also when did you get it

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
I've got two more chances to reread so it's not happening tonight tbqh.

I will share my existing thoughts on MQ, however,


##vote Mocking Quantum

Why?

(1) Sideline posting. MQ is often around to interact and respond, but doesn't push the thread anywhere.

(2) Opportunistic voting

MockingQuantum posted:

No, I thought the framing is pretty shaky, I'm not sure that I feel totally okay with your claim but based on your response I think it's much less likely you're scum than yuming here.

##vote yuming
The vote on me is hard to explain concisely, but MQ is an inventor and there was a lot of players hmmm'ing about me being scum in thread that day.

I remember being confused why he would so strongly think I was scum which is usually a :siren:


Next,

MockingQuantum posted:

##vote rwc

good catch, I felt like something was weird about the message but didn't piece that together at all
MQ was quick to vote with the catch I thought I had on RWC.

MockingQuantum posted:

my brain is absolutely fried, this is a very bad weekend to be in the US with newborn puppies and a mom dog who doesn't like thunder or fireworks, so I am having a hard time keeping the events of this game in my head right now

I don't think there's much of a case for RWC outside of the oopsie gotcha, and Yuming has turned around my opinion on her and I'm pretty firmly convinced she's town

this makes me more suspicious of Kaschei because of their response to Yuming casing them, but I don't think it was entirely unreasonable so they're a neutral read for me, just felt worth mentioning/rereading

ultimately my only strong read right now is Cube, his posting has been unusually thin this game which trends scummy for him imo, and I forgot how really terrible that hammer looked to me until I reread.

##vote cube
Vote #3 (ooo noo) on Cube.

MockingQuantum posted:

Okay I've re-read and I can't really add anything to Yuming's casework here, I like the case on crumbum. this has kind of 180'd my feelings on Yuming, so crumbum pushing back against her makes him look worse, imo, doubly so because he then doesn't even vote for her but drops a vote on gulag instead. It's a weird move in and of itself, but I could see it as a flailing scum move.

##vote crumbum
And votes along with FC.

Overall, MQ is picking up what is already in thread and following it. I don't see him trying to solve the game.

I also think his opinion trajectory on me specifically is not very believable.

Rhymes With Clue
Nov 18, 2010

A lady of nobility, gentility, and rage

kaschei posted:

RWC what flavor was the watch you used

It was from yuming, flavor "looks organic" which apparently means it has a 60% chance of success. got it N0.

Also, it looked like a 1x watch, but I haVE been holding it every night.

Worked twice, nobody visited Toalpaz N1, yuming and molly visited GulagDolls N3. Also failed twice.

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Rhymes With Clue
Nov 18, 2010

A lady of nobility, gentility, and rage

Toalpaz posted:

its a special puzzle for you to figure out

Yeah but I am stupid, please help.

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