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kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

Is that how organics work or did you get recharged by cube at some point?

Grandi gave toalpaz a "hide" invention that let her choose a target to redirect things targeting her toward.

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Rhymes With Clue
Nov 18, 2010

A lady of nobility, gentility, and rage

kaschei posted:

Is that how organics work or did you get recharged by cube at some point?

Grandi gave toalpaz a "hide" invention that let her choose a target to redirect things targeting her toward.

I guess that is how organics work, however I did get recharged by Cube N2. Not sure what that did. Every day I have been told I am holding Watch and that the item looks organic.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
Yes my items are reusable :sun:

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

I read mq

They're scum

##vote mockingquantum

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

If someone hands you a dangerous item just use it, it might kill you at sundown but won't kill you for using them, that was me lying to dissuade scum from using them

I didn't hand one out last night because it was not worth the risk of wrong-execute, was sort of hoping we could eliminate the chance but I have no idea where the item I gave toalpaz N3 ended up

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



Sorry friends, I'm not scum, just ineffective town having trouble getting my head in this game. Especially after basically all of my scum reads have been wrong.

I'm pretty confident yuming and kaschei are town which makes it even dicier that they're the ones pushing me, but that how it goes sometimes. I think both toal and RWC have gotten through the game so far without much scrutiny but I can't really point to any particular posts that scream scum

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

I'm secretly hoping this was a gambit by yuming

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
Ha, nope :sun:

Okay I'm reading some now.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

GulagDolls posted:

mafia bros... I feel like I want to sheep this kaschei execution but I want you all to know I already wanted to kill him before then. just so we're clear
Does Gulag toss this read out at scummate kaschei? I lean towards this being + town points to kaschei tbh.

Not really much else in Gulag's post history.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

Toalpaz posted:

I think people are wrong on yuming, town.
Similarly, I don't have a super strong read on Toal, but posts like ^^this one from D1 don't feel scum-POV to me. Why not leave open the possibility of voting me?

I say +town to Toal here. There's not much motivation for scum to post that read.

(Just thinking aloud as I make sure I've considered everyone as possible scum here.)

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

MockingQuantum posted:

sure but also, I think this could be a scumalong game
Contrast that with MQ here at EOD1 just farting around not caring to share reads or further town's win condition.

MQ is indeed a laid-back town poster but this is just not even participating in town's game imo.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
++ scum points to MQ

MockingQuantum posted:

I always wanna vote cube D1 but it might actually be a good idea here

MockingQuantum posted:

this is a good read, pretty sure I've seen scumcube make an early D1 joke vote and coast on it til deadline

##vote cube
The windup for MQ voting Cube here is on the scum side I think.

I just did the same thing in Phoenix Wright, being like LOL yea I agree with you ! !

But it takes me longer to process how I wanna explain the vote as scum. There was def. support for Cube here.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

votefinder posted:

Votecount for Day 1

xxxOOOO kaschei (4): Toalpaz, CubicalSucrose, yuming, Sandwolf
xxxxOOO shwinnebego (3): Freaking Crumbum, GulagDolls, Freaking Crumbum, Freaking Crumbum, mollyohreally
xxxxxOO yuming (2): shwinnebego, Freaking Crumbum, shwinnebego, Freaking Crumbum, shwinnebego, Tired Moritz, Tired Moritz, Freaking Crumbum, Tired Moritz, Freaking Crumbum
xxxxxxO Grandicap (1): kaschei, mollyohreally, shwinnebego, shwinnebego, mollyohreally
xxxxxxx Tired Moritz (0): yuming, yuming, yuming, yuming
xxxxxxx Toalpaz (0): Tired Moritz, Tired Moritz
xxxxxxx Freaking Crumbum (0): yuming, yuming
xxxxxxx GulagDolls (0): mollyohreally, mollyohreally, Freaking Crumbum, Freaking Crumbum
xxxxxxx mollyohreally (0): Freaking Crumbum, Freaking Crumbum


Not voting: Grandicap, MockingQuantum, Rhymes With Clue

With 13 alive, it's 7 votes to execute. The current deadline is July 03rd, 2024 at 4 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 6 hours, 23 minutes.

Sandwolf posted:

Kaschei, in their first post of the day, accused Grandi of playing like tryhard scum

Is that a real opinion?

Since they got heat, they’ve largely ducked out and not done much.

Sandwolf posted:

##vote Cube

kaschei posted:

I re-read yuming and shwinn and feel best about ##vote cube

I should be able to check in before deadline but not for much more than changing my vote
If kaschei were scum, Gulag voiced support of eliminating him, but then didn't vote. Sand votes him and jumps off to Cube.

I suppose it's possible.

I know it's WIFOM that one of the inventors HAS to be scum, but I'm curious why MQ is so sure kaschei is town.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

Tired Moritz posted:

did i misread something saying that we will not be able to use an item if it passed around??
I think it's interested Moritz wanted his item back so badly from Toal but he never asked back for the item he gave me :iiam:

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

MockingQuantum posted:

I'm never great at building cases but I feel especially lost when nobody dies at night
eh, but who has MQ built a case on himself this game?

I just see no spirit of wanting-to-figure-it-outness.

I'm trying to not just agree with myself here but I do think he is most likely scum candidate, still.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
How many scum do we think are left here? One or two?

I'm running out of steam here but would love to hear other players' opinions~

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

MockingQuantum posted:

No, I thought the framing is pretty shaky, I'm not sure that I feel totally okay with your claim but based on your response I think it's much less likely you're scum than yuming here.

##vote yuming
What makes this vote so bad is it leaves to door open to vote kaschei too.

It just seems real scummy, especially fmpov.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
Ok, I made it to page 15. ttyl mafs~

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

I gave toalpaz his N1 item back (mystifying watch) so he gave me another item N2 which I gave to yuming at the end of the day yesterday

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

yuming posted:

How many scum do we think are left here? One or two?

I'm running out of steam here but would love to hear other players' opinions~
4/13 is a lot even with item madness

Rhymes With Clue
Nov 18, 2010

A lady of nobility, gentility, and rage
##vote toalpaz

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

Rhymes With Clue posted:

##vote toalpaz
Can’t wait to hear more :allears:

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

kaschei posted:

I gave tired moritz his N1 item back (mystifying watch) so he gave me another item N2 which I gave to yuming at the end of the day yesterday
mafia edit

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

kaschei posted:

mafia edit
Gotcha yes confirming I have that item.

Toalpaz
Mar 20, 2012

Peace through overwhelming determination
I shot 2 people with my power but skipped yesterday. I give people inventor role use for one nighr, if they don't have it. (By memory)... I didn't reread my pm.

I didn't use my hide when I said I did. I used grandicaps redirect hide on n3, redirecting to TM.

Rhymes With Clue
Nov 18, 2010

A lady of nobility, gentility, and rage

yuming posted:

Can’t wait to hear more :allears:

Working on it

Rhymes With Clue
Nov 18, 2010

A lady of nobility, gentility, and rage

Toalpaz posted:

I shot 2 people with my power but skipped yesterday. I give people inventor role use for one nighr, if they don't have it. (By memory)... I didn't reread my pm.

I didn't use my hide when I said I did. I used grandicaps redirect hide on n3, redirecting to TM.

Did you shoot any scum? Did you ever vote for any scum?

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
We still don’t know what happened to the n1 kill, correct?

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

the only apparent explanation is toalpaz using t.mo's rolecop and becoming BP

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



yuming posted:

If kaschei were scum, Gulag voiced support of eliminating him, but then didn't vote. Sand votes him and jumps off to Cube.

I suppose it's possible.

I know it's WIFOM that one of the inventors HAS to be scum, but I'm curious why MQ is so sure kaschei is town.

I was inclined to think Kasch was town because they seemed like they were on top of tracking the inventions and where they were ending up but on reread it's just kind of collating info which isn't inherently towny.

Also on a re-read, kasch was vocally suspicious of Sand but never actually put a vote down on him. Also was pushing Grandi hard early, as well as Cube.

I think I also thought of items that could kill, even on a slim RNG chance, as being too scummy to be a scum role, but I'm starting to rethink that too. Kasch withholds info on the items a couple of times purportedly out of an effort to "trick scum" but I could see that being a scum tactic to keep some hot potatoes in the game and moving around as long as possible.

##vote kaschei

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

MockingQuantum posted:

Also on a re-read, kasch was vocally suspicious of Sand but never actually put a vote down on him. Also was pushing Grandi hard early, as well as Cube.
when? I never more than weakly summarized the case on sand when gulag asked for it. I complained about him not posting when I wanted to do item hijinks. I never thought he was scum til he flipped.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

kaschei posted:

the only apparent explanation is toalpaz using t.mo's rolecop and becoming BP
I was thinking that too.

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

MockingQuantum posted:

I was inclined to think Kasch was town because they seemed like they were on top of tracking the inventions and where they were ending up but on reread it's just kind of collating info which isn't inherently towny.

Also on a re-read, kasch was vocally suspicious of Sand but never actually put a vote down on him. Also was pushing Grandi hard early, as well as Cube.

I think I also thought of items that could kill, even on a slim RNG chance, as being too scummy to be a scum role, but I'm starting to rethink that too. Kasch withholds info on the items a couple of times purportedly out of an effort to "trick scum" but I could see that being a scum tactic to keep some hot potatoes in the game and moving around as long as possible.

##vote kaschei
this is scum trying to dig up btw

please vote

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
Yea I don’t have it in me to read 10 pages but I don’t think I need to. I think it’s MQ.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
It’s also too late— and inconsistent with MQs earlier opinion of kascheis play making sense and me looking scummy.

By too late I mean town MQ should’ve considered these possibilities sooner wrt kaschei. I think it’s natural for the inventors to suspect one of us is scum.

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



well the consolation when I flip town is that I'm pretty sure my inventions either don't work or are unlikely to work anyway

Rhymes With Clue
Nov 18, 2010

A lady of nobility, gentility, and rage
##unvote

Rhymes With Clue
Nov 18, 2010

A lady of nobility, gentility, and rage
##vote mockingquantum
This should give Anyone who needs to hand off a dangerous item time to do that.

votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop
:redhammer: Oh no! I think MockingQuantum is hammered!

Votecount for Day 5

OOO MockingQuantum (3): yuming, yuming, yuming, kaschei, Rhymes With Clue
xxO kaschei (1): MockingQuantum
xxx Toalpaz (0): Rhymes With Clue, Rhymes With Clue


Not voting: Toalpaz

With 5 alive, it's 3 votes to execute. The current deadline is July 15th, 2024 at 3 p.m. CDT -- that's in about 16 hours, 9 minutes.

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Shellception
Oct 12, 2016

ALL THINGS THAT ARE ARE OURS. BUT WE MUST CARE. FOR IF WE DO NOT CARE, WE DO NOT EXIST. IF WE DO NOT EXIST, THEN THERE IS NOTHING BUT BLIND OBLIVION.

AND EVEN OBLIVION MUST END SOMEDAY.
MockingQuantum, Haterot SilverDust, SCUM-aligned Sham Inventor has been escorted out of the fair D5!

quote:

It's often said there's a sucker born every minute. You certainly hope so, because your entire livelihood relies on selling to suckers. Your stuff certainly looks the part, and there is a certain amount of token effort into hiding the cheap mass manufacture... but, ultimately, it's all bling and no bang. Thankfully, this fair is short enough that, by the time they all realize it, you'll be in your merry way out. And if anyone looks close to figuring you out... well, you have your ways of fixing it.

You are Haterot SilverDust, SCUM-aligned Sham Inventor!

By night, you can ##Hand an item to a player of your choice. You will be notified of the nature of the item (from the pool of 1x doc, 1x watch, 1x rolecop, 1x roleblock, 1x hider) at the start of the night. They have a 70% probability of automatically failing when used, prompting a generic "Action Failed" message. Your items will look "dubious" to any recipients, but they will not be informed of the nature of the extra effect.

If submitting the NK on a player that is holding one of your items at the start of the night, it will be a juggernaut kill.

You win when scum have unassailable control over the vote.

GAME OVER! TOWN WIN!

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