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horse.
Apr 17, 2003

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mollyohreally posted:

i have seen scuming once and she absolutely bamboozled me

see and here i am, technically barred from acknowledging i have ever played a game w/ yuming before!!

i definitely DONT agree w/ u here

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horse.
Apr 17, 2003

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cause im willing to be wrong, but if yuming is town, then shwiff woofin

mollyohreally
Jan 10, 2020

Freaking Crumbum posted:

cause im willing to be wrong, but if yuming is town, then shwiff woofin

are you gonna make me read back and see their interaction

mollyohreally
Jan 10, 2020

Toalpaz posted:

I can give u a part of a gun, in some senses.

Busted.

For what its worth, I am a town power role. I'd recommend saving me for at least 2 nights. Strongly suspect kaschei to be scum. ##vote Kaschei I will explain later.

is it later yet

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

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mollyohreally posted:

are you gonna make me read back and see their interaction

marimo i ain't ur boss; live the life that satisfies u

mollyohreally
Jan 10, 2020

Freaking Crumbum posted:

marimo i ain't ur boss; live the life that satisfies u

its fiiiiiiine i already read back anyways

filing this information away

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Toalpaz is town, yuming is likely town, Sandwolf is probably town. I feel more strongly about each of them in descending order than I should for a game that has been open for like 12 hours. Maybe I'm just leaning in to my fantastic powers of augury, my third eye is open this game. I will see through the veil of scum with my gaze.

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



Grandicap posted:

I will see through the veil of scum with my gaze.

me when I realize I need to clean the aquarium

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

I have positive feelings about Crumbum, but I've never played with them before. It just feels like that level of verbal dirarrhea is hard to fake and scum would be less apt to go that route for fear of getting their poo poo everywhere.
I am not ready to make a town call on them, but it is only a hop away.

Molly is giving me negative vibes. Like her aura is all wrong in a greenish purple way. And cube is adjacent to there too. Unlike the Toal power role claim, there was a more negative feeling when cube did it for me. I'd vote there over molly, even though I have more negative feelings with molly because I've never played with her before. And the Cube-survivor stuff. I know it's gambler's fallacy, but Cube couldn't have rolled 3p again... right!?!?!?

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

MockingQuantum posted:

me when I realize I need to clean the aquarium

Ah, yes. The falling Pisces. A sign of infamy.

mollyohreally
Jan 10, 2020

Grandicap posted:

I have positive feelings about Crumbum, but I've never played with them before. It just feels like that level of verbal dirarrhea is hard to fake and scum would be less apt to go that route for fear of getting their poo poo everywhere.
I am not ready to make a town call on them, but it is only a hop away.

Molly is giving me negative vibes. Like her aura is all wrong in a greenish purple way. And cube is adjacent to there too. Unlike the Toal power role claim, there was a more negative feeling when cube did it for me. I'd vote there over molly, even though I have more negative feelings with molly because I've never played with her before. And the Cube-survivor stuff. I know it's gambler's fallacy, but Cube couldn't have rolled 3p again... right!?!?!?

as a crumbum knower, i also dont partiuclarly suspect him right now, but for the record he is just Like That regardless of alignment

Sandwolf
Jan 23, 2007

i'll be harpo


mollyohreally posted:

as a crumbum knower, i also dont partiuclarly suspect him right now, but for the record he is just Like That regardless of alignment

Grandi, crum can definitely fake it as scum at least

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

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Grandicap posted:

I have positive feelings about Crumbum, but I've never played with them before. It just feels like that level of verbal dirarrhea is hard to fake and scum would be less apt to go that route for fear of getting their poo poo everywhere.
I am not ready to make a town call on them, but it is only a hop away.

it's more that my superlative condition is real and powerful and alignment-agnostic

not vibing w/ this early town read

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

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Sandwolf posted:

Grandi, crum can definitely fake it as scum at least

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

My stick and alt...er, native fair e.

Grandicap posted:

I have positive feelings about Crumbum, but I've never played with them before. It just feels like that level of verbal dirarrhea is hard to fake and scum would be less apt to go that route for fear of getting their poo poo everywhere.
I am not ready to make a town call on them, but it is only a hop away.

Molly is giving me negative vibes. Like her aura is all wrong in a greenish purple way. And cube is adjacent to there too. Unlike the Toal power role claim, there was a more negative feeling when cube did it for me. I'd vote there over molly, even though I have more negative feelings with molly because I've never played with her before. And the Cube-survivor stuff. I know it's gambler's fallacy, but Cube couldn't have rolled 3p again... right!?!?!?

Fair but also check out the item list. Doc > Hider >> Watch > Roleblock > Rolecop is like clearly the prio, right?

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

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Freaking Crumbum posted:

anyways if i had to guess, since vending an item is a valid day-phase action & we can't fake day phase actions, there's either a scum vendor, or being vendor is a proven-town claim

hey anyone else, is this assumption completely insane or is it plausible? i ain't played a faire mafia before

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

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Freaking Crumbum posted:

hey anyone else, is this assumption completely insane or is it plausible? i ain't played a faire mafia before

Previous item-gimmick games (Ostuniad, and then there was at least one more I think) had a bunch of setup spec on gift-givers being town vs. scum and I don't think the conversations ever really went anywhere.

Scum inventors seem like roles that can be designed-around with the right restrictions, so I would not think we should rule them out. So I do not think that inventors should actually early-claim.

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

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CubicalSucrose posted:

Scum inventors seem like roles that can be designed-around with the right restrictions, so I would not think we should rule them out. So I do not think that inventors should actually early-claim.

but ur co-woof yuming already has!!

:confutoot:

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

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mollyohreally posted:

u can cry silently into my muscly shoulder if you want

i always worry ill fail the "silently" part with my weepy-weep wails

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

CubicalSucrose posted:

My stick and alt...er, native fair e.

Fair but also check out the item list. Doc > Hider >> Watch > Roleblock > Rolecop is like clearly the prio, right?

You expected me to read the OP?
And, no that wouldn't be the priority for me.
Watch is top dog in that list. I would rank it
Watcher >>>>>>>> Doc >>> Roleblock >> Rolecop >>>>>>>>>> Hider
(The more >s the farther away it is in value)

Catching scum is more important than saving yourself. Saving a known town quantity is better than saving yourself. Stopping a kill is way better than saving yourself.

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

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Grandicap posted:

Catching scum is more important than saving yourself. Saving a known town quantity is better than saving yourself. Stopping a kill is way better than saving yourself.

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



Freaking Crumbum posted:

but ur co-woof yuming already has!!

:confutoot:

I'm lost, where did yuming claim inventor

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

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Help!! Im In The Bucket; For Grandpa


(???)

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

CubicalSucrose posted:

Previous item-gimmick games (Ostuniad, and then there was at least one more I think) had a bunch of setup spec on gift-givers being town vs. scum and I don't think the conversations ever really went anywhere.

Scum inventors seem like roles that can be designed-around with the right restrictions, so I would not think we should rule them out. So I do not think that inventors should actually early-claim.


Based on the OP I would assume 5 item distributers in the game. I would guess 3 town, 2 scum, 4/1 wouldn't surprise me.

The OP posted:

The item pool is common, and they do, under usual circumstances, not repeat on a given night. Depending on the number of remaining players, not all the items may show up for distribution on all days.
Bold added, but the assumption I made here is that if the number of remaining players == all players, then all items are distributed.

horse.
Apr 17, 2003

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MockingQuantum posted:

I'm lost, where did yuming claim inventor

my theory is it's this:

CubicalSucrose posted:

Someone give me an item, please.

yuming posted:

Hi :sun:

What is your favorite kind of item Cube?

scum cube & scum yuming being cute hot off the drop

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



well it's certainly a theory

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

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Grandicap posted:

Based on the OP I would assume 5 item distributers in the game. I would guess 3 town, 2 scum, 4/1 wouldn't surprise me.

Bold added, but the assumption I made here is that if the number of remaining players == all players, then all items are distributed.

Non-repeating means that if all 5 are distributed today then none are distributed the next night?

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

CubicalSucrose posted:

Non-repeating means that if all 5 are distributed today then none are distributed the next night?

It specifically "not repeated on a given night", so from night to night there will be repeats, but no giving out 2 docs on N1 or whatever. And by giving out, I mean by the mods to the night item givers.
Or I am reading too deeply into it.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

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Grandicap posted:

It specifically "not repeated on a given night", so from night to night there will be repeats, but no giving out 2 docs on N1 or whatever. And by giving out, I mean by the mods to the night item givers.
Or I am reading too deeply into it.

Oh that probably makes more sense.

Anyway someone give me a doc.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Freaking Crumbum posted:

my theory is it's this:



scum cube & scum yuming being cute hot off the drop

I think this is bad and wrong. I think that it being an inventor soft claim from yuming is a reasonable leap, but that's not how I read it. But it being scum theater is way less likely. If scumbos want to hand items to eachother, talking about it loudly seems like a bad idea, especially with the item pool not containing an item tracking thingy.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Shellception posted:

Special Mechanics:

This game features inventions. Every night, a number of oneshot items will be available for certain roles to distribute. Those items are: 1x Doc, 1x watch, 1x rolecop, 1x roleblock,1x hider. The item pool is common, and they do, under usual circumstances, not repeat on a given night. Depending on the number of remaining players, not all the items may show up for distribution on all days.

Ok, yeah, I'm more and more happy with my understanding of the system now that I've read it a half dozen times.
If the inventors had an inventory of items to start with and chose which ones to give out (normal inventor stuff), then mods couldn't garantee that there was no repeats in a given night unless there was some sort of de-duping mechanic on night item gifting causing duplicate items to be lost or returned, which would be a bad-feels mechanic and some sort of annoying queue or priority system that would be a huge mod headache.

What makes more sense for game flow would be the inventors are told which item they crafted or magicked in the night, or even a map of you get x n0, y n1, etc, and they just choose who they give them to. That would garantee to have no dupes in a given night.

So, yuming asking

yuming posted:

Hi :sun:

What is your favorite kind of item Cube?

Only fits with a regular inventor assumption, of having a list of gadgets to pass out, not one who can only give out a certain item each night. Not with the modified inventor item stuff I just theorized and now believe wholeheartedly.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006

Help! I'm in the setup spec weeds, someone pull back into alignment sleuth mode. I just need to RP as a psychic investigator.



"Just because you put syrup on something doesn’t make it a pancake."

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

mollyohreally posted:

i would however like to thank yuming cos i reverse image searched her avatar and i found out about yuming the musician who i had not been strictly aware of for some reason (tho i had heard some of her stuff before)
Yay :sun:

I love her stuff as Arai Yumi.

I did not explicitly claim inventor but yes I am an inventor. I almost gave an item to Cube N0 but changed my mind and then felt bad cos he almost won Pridefia. So I responded to him there. If I were to give Cube an item I’d want it to be something he finds useful.

I also think there are a lot of inventors in the game and that my items aren’t very good. I bet someone else gives out better items~

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
My items have a chance of failing automatically :qq:

Another game with two miller claims btw, this is the new thing these days, so it seems~

Molly is so credulous of Toal but it doesn’t feels scummy. I always think Toal is scum apparently so I’m gonna give that a rest on D1 at least.

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

yuming posted:

My items have a chance of failing automatically :qq:

Another game with two miller claims btw, this is the new thing these days, so it seems~

Molly is so credulous of Toal but it doesn’t feels scummy. I always think Toal is scum apparently so I’m gonna give that a rest on D1 at least.
who claimed miller?

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

I don't like any of grandicap's posts holy moly ##vote grandicap

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

kaschei posted:

who claimed miller?
Wrong game :psyduck:

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

yuming posted:

Wrong game :psyduck:

which one are you scum in?

kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

I regret posing that question but won't edit it out, please ignore it

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Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
Should I try hard in this game? Y/n?

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