[Mafia] Springville's First Annual Mystick And Alternative Faire

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horse.: Apr 17, 2003; woof pack
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mollyohreally posted:

did she tell u that in your scumchat or

this feels self-conscious

mollyohreally posted:

i respect this but also i just dont like setup spec

what about town marimo who always loves sharing info, and loves for info to be shared, for town's sake

# ? Jul 2, 2024 18:36

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# ? Dec 11, 2025 23:55

horse.: Apr 17, 2003; woof pack
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shwinnebego posted:

Only a scum earnestly requests constructive feedback, true townies are unmoored from the shackles of empathizing with the perspectives of others ##vote grandicap

and then also grandicamp said this:

Grandicap posted:

Catching scum is more important than saving yourself. Saving a known town quantity is better than saving yourself. Stopping a kill is way better than saving yourself.

and then shwiff pulls off grandicap to vote yuming again

shwinnebego posted:

back to ##vote yuming, a tragedy because she's consistently very fun to play with but she is scum and my personal fondness for scum is orthogonal to the murder imperative

okay, let's ride or die shwiff

##vote yuming

# ? Jul 2, 2024 18:42

yuming: Feb 26, 2008; dance dance dance

##vote Freaking Crumbum

Here have an OMGUS for the non sequitur vote ! !

# ? Jul 2, 2024 18:45

mollyohreally: Jan 10, 2020

Freaking Crumbum posted:

this feels self-conscious

what about town marimo who always loves sharing info, and loves for info to be shared, for town's sake

the thing about setup spec is
is it info or is it trying very hard to look like info

# ? Jul 2, 2024 19:08

mollyohreally: Jan 10, 2020

Grandicap posted:

Catching scum is more important than saving yourself. Saving a known town quantity is better than saving yourself. Stopping a kill is way better than saving yourself.

but actually i love this post so

##unvote

# ? Jul 2, 2024 19:13

yuming: Feb 26, 2008; dance dance dance

Ok, I'm actually reading this thread now.

shwinn is stuck on me saying I don't agree with policy voting him. His tone feels similar to the game we were in where he was right about MQ.

Sry shwinn you are wrong about me here.

I think his read of Grandi seems legit as well. I think shwinn is town.

I am an asset as town too shwinn, aren't I? Rude :qq:

# ? Jul 2, 2024 19:18

yuming: Feb 26, 2008; dance dance dance

yuming posted:

idk I feel like shwinn is nice to have around as town. I don't think he's unreadable either.

Like you think I revealed I KNOW shwinn is town with this post? C'mon. We can speak in hypotheticals D1 my friends.

# ? Jul 2, 2024 19:27

Tired Moritz: Mar 25, 2012; wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

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What are you guys rambling about? Just vote toal until they give back my item

# ? Jul 2, 2024 19:29

yuming: Feb 26, 2008; dance dance dance

Grandicap posted:

Ok, yeah, I'm more and more happy with my understanding of the system now that I've read it a half dozen times.
If the inventors had an inventory of items to start with and chose which ones to give out (normal inventor stuff), then mods couldn't garantee that there was no repeats in a given night unless there was some sort of de-duping mechanic on night item gifting causing duplicate items to be lost or returned, which would be a bad-feels mechanic and some sort of annoying queue or priority system that would be a huge mod headache.

What makes more sense for game flow would be the inventors are told which item they crafted or magicked in the night, or even a map of you get x n0, y n1, etc, and they just choose who they give them to. That would garantee to have no dupes in a given night.

So, yuming asking

Only fits with a regular inventor assumption, of having a list of gadgets to pass out, not one who can only give out a certain item each night. Not with the modified inventor item stuff I just theorized and now believe wholeheartedly.

N0 I was told what item I had to give and then I picked who gets it.

I think I am a weak-inventor. There must be a better town inventor in the game :wink:

TM I'm not caught up, Toal stole from you?

# ? Jul 2, 2024 19:36

yuming: Feb 26, 2008; dance dance dance

kaschei posted:

which one are you scum in?

Whoops, I addressed Grandi to respond to kaschei and confused Grandi I am off here sry.

kaschei, I am not scum in this game. :sun:

Are you?

# ? Jul 2, 2024 19:38

Tired Moritz: Mar 25, 2012; wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

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no, I gave toal my item n0

# ? Jul 2, 2024 19:38

yuming: Feb 26, 2008; dance dance dance

GulagDolls posted:

should I read this thread

# ? Jul 2, 2024 19:41

yuming: Feb 26, 2008; dance dance dance

Tired Moritz posted:

no, I gave toal my item n0

Then why do you want it back < :mad:

>

Gifts are given freely, like childhood~

# ? Jul 2, 2024 19:42

Tired Moritz: Mar 25, 2012; wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

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I know I'm town. I don't know if toal is town.

# ? Jul 2, 2024 19:44

yuming: Feb 26, 2008; dance dance dance

Tired Moritz posted:

I know I'm town. I don't know if toal is town.

My items don't need to be given back.

idg why you want yours back. Did you forget to take the price tag off?

# ? Jul 2, 2024 19:47

Tired Moritz: Mar 25, 2012; wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

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there is literally no reason why you wont want your item back if youre town

# ? Jul 2, 2024 19:48

yuming: Feb 26, 2008; dance dance dance

GulagDolls posted:

wtf it's just grandicap.... anyway i dont really get the scum vibes from him. he's a very grey-aligned poster. just pop off and shoot him with a vig on day 3 if you get really paranoid then

lol missed ya, Gulag :h:

OMG PS my items are organic. People have been talking about ROBOTS ~hmm~

Tired Moritz posted:

there is literally no reason why you wont want your item back if youre town

I don't want my item back because if it fails it can be used again hth.

# ? Jul 2, 2024 19:50

yuming: Feb 26, 2008; dance dance dance

Tired Moritz posted:

there is literally no reason why you wont want your item back if youre town

Also the item can't be used until N1 so why do you want Toal to give you back your item without using it.

Moritz not making sense here fmpov

# ? Jul 2, 2024 19:51

yuming: Feb 26, 2008; dance dance dance

##vote Moritz

You get a vote too ! !

# ? Jul 2, 2024 19:52

Tired Moritz: Mar 25, 2012; wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

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so do you think who you gave your item to is town? otherwise why does that matter, especially when items are distributed every night

# ? Jul 2, 2024 19:52

Tired Moritz: Mar 25, 2012; wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

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yuming posted:

Also the item can't be used until N1 so why do you want Toal to give you back your item without using it.

Moritz not making sense here fmpov

???? are you trolling?

if toal is scum, it would be a complete waste for toal to have it.

# ? Jul 2, 2024 19:53

yuming: Feb 26, 2008; dance dance dance

Tired Moritz posted:

???? are you trolling?

if toal is scum, it would be a complete waste for toal to have it.

I'm under the assumption items cannot be used until N1.

If you give someone an item N0, why do you want it back D1 before it can be used :iiam:

Why did you even give it to them if you don't want them to use it?

I am thinking Moritz is legit scummy here for whatever weirdness he is going on about.

# ? Jul 2, 2024 20:00

yuming: Feb 26, 2008; dance dance dance

Sandwolf posted:

Back to Grandi: I think kaschei�s description of Grandi�s behavior as �tryharding scum� is not reflected in his posting, so it strikes me as insincere, coupled with the fact that it�s like halfway through D1 and to describe anyone as tryharding scum feels inauthentic

I didn't like that kaschei post either.

I'm also having a paranoid stupid-idea-suspicion that Moritz, Toal, and kaschei are trying to pull some weird gambit and messed up the fact that the items couldn't be used until N1.

Likely? No.

Does that stop me from wanting to be right about it, heck no. :sun:

But kaschei's posting is reading scummy to me so I will start there.

##vote kaschei

# ? Jul 2, 2024 20:02

Tired Moritz: Mar 25, 2012; wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

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yuming posted:

I'm under the assumption items cannot be used until N1.

If you give someone an item N0, why do you want it back D1 before it can be used

Why did you even give it to them if you don't want them to use it?

I am thinking Moritz is legit scummy here for whatever weirdness he is going on about.

i have to give it to someone
so im asking for it back (because I know Im town and thus can confirm it wont be misused). if youre being uncooperative, then give me a reason why. toal has no reason to not want to give it back beyond scummy reasons.

# ? Jul 2, 2024 20:03

Tired Moritz: Mar 25, 2012; wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

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if youre town, why would you risk accidentally giving scum an ability? the logical answer is to ask for it back. honestly this seems like common sense, I have no idea why yuming is so confused.

# ? Jul 2, 2024 20:04

yuming: Feb 26, 2008; dance dance dance

shwinn, I invite you to look at my recent posts and reconsider your read of me.

My non-conspiracy adjacent scum read is honestly Crumbum. The way he quoted posts that have nothing to do with why I'm scum is ? ? ?

I'm trying to filter in molly's crumbs of this being how he posts, but it just feels opportunistic.

# ? Jul 2, 2024 20:04

yuming: Feb 26, 2008; dance dance dance

Tired Moritz posted:

if youre town, why would you risk accidentally giving scum an ability? the logical answer is to ask for it back. honestly this seems like common sense, I have no idea why yuming is so confused.

"If you're town, why would you risk accidentally being wrong." kekeke

# ? Jul 2, 2024 20:05

Tired Moritz: Mar 25, 2012; wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

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thats literally not what I said. liberally interpretation of my very simple statement of "we should actually reduce the risk of powers running freely among scum".

# ? Jul 2, 2024 20:07

Tired Moritz: Mar 25, 2012; wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

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##vote yuming

its like you want to argue to argue.

# ? Jul 2, 2024 20:07

yuming: Feb 26, 2008; dance dance dance

Tired Moritz posted:

##vote yuming

its like you want to argue to argue.

No I just don't see the point of giving items just to ask for them back.

Toal is acting like they used a power last night which is ~interesting~ if it was meant to be the item Moritz gave them.

# ? Jul 2, 2024 20:09

Tired Moritz: Mar 25, 2012; wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

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because we have to give to someone but whoever we pick can trade them around. theres literally nothing stopping scum from trading items around themselves, leaving townies with nothing.

# ? Jul 2, 2024 20:11

Tired Moritz: Mar 25, 2012; wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

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dont you agree that we should reduce the chances of scum having the items? so tell me whats the best way to do that.

# ? Jul 2, 2024 20:12

yuming: Feb 26, 2008; dance dance dance

Livin' on a Prayer obv.

But seriously, okay, you say items should be given back so that you can use it but then no one can use them because you use your night action to pass out the next item and ask for it back? No thanks. Just gonna pass them out and pray they end up in good hands. The odds are in your favor after all.

I GUESS I'll try and clean some now, ttyl thread.

# ? Jul 2, 2024 20:14

Tired Moritz: Mar 25, 2012; wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

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yuming posted:

Livin' on a Prayer obv.

But seriously, okay, you say items should be given back so that you can use it but then no one can use them because you use your night action to pass out the next item and ask for it back? No thanks. Just gonna pass them out and pray they end up in good hands. The odds are in your favor after all.

I GUESS I'll try and clean some now, ttyl thread.

how can we pray? scum can privately pass items around. we need just one person to give it to the wrong person and now theres scum that have access to whatever ability they got. theres no way to get accountability. as players, shouldnt we actually reduce the amount of info confusion?

at the end of the day, it doesnt even involve you. you can waste your time giving you items to scum if you want but i know Im town and I know the items are better in my hands.

# ? Jul 2, 2024 20:17

horse.: Apr 17, 2003; woof pack
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mollyohreally posted:

but actually i love this post so

##unvote

right?!

why tho

who gains the most by auditioning w/ fun-town-observations

that's why i repeat bad ideas, loudly

# ? Jul 2, 2024 20:28

CubicalSucrose: Jan 1, 2013; Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Could it be Yuming + TMor? I suppose it could be.

# ? Jul 2, 2024 20:36

horse.: Apr 17, 2003; woof pack
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yuming posted:

i'm trying to filter in molly's crumbs of this being how he posts, but it just feels opportunistic.

yeah, it does ... i just can't decide from whom

hmmmm

# ? Jul 2, 2024 20:38

horse.: Apr 17, 2003; woof pack
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grandpa is being charming and shwiff is encouraging me to make sloppy calls

##vote shwiff

# ? Jul 2, 2024 20:39

horse.: Apr 17, 2003; woof pack
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Tired Moritz posted:

i have to give it to someone
so im asking for it back (because I know Im town and thus can confirm it wont be misused). if youre being uncooperative, then give me a reason why. toal has no reason to not want to give it back beyond scummy reasons.

this is just like ... 3P wincon much

# ? Jul 2, 2024 20:40

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shwinnebego: Jul 11, 2002

Sandwolf posted:

Hmm, Shwinn, what if I said to you, Oh Oh Oh, O�Reilly?

Sandwolf posted:

Hmm, Shwinn, what if I said to you, Oh Oh Oh, O�Reilly?

I�d say

1. I�m on my last night of travels slightly spun in Barcelona and we need to make prompt plans for Boston rage and

2. Molly? Oh really?

# ? Jul 2, 2024 23:02

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