[Mafia] Ghostbusters - We're ready to deceive you!

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mollyohreally: Jan 10, 2020

Toalpaz posted:

you're just saying this because i tricked you into masonrying with me lmfao

in n1 I got asked if I was the key master.

she's the gate keeper.... i lied and said yes, even though I was married to hum, (i'm the other brother(we're ghosts lmfao)) and she wants to kill me... god drat it. I even claimed that I was in another masonry (hid hum's id) d2.

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# ? Jul 16, 2024 20:20

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# ? Jan 20, 2025 12:50

shwinnebego: Jul 11, 2002

mollyohreally posted:

also true

it's like 1000 degrees here and i havent slept lol

basically what i wish to say is this: if we vote either lying keats or lying clo, we have the same result (we have voted out scum)
if we vote truth-telling clo, we have not executed anyone, giving town a little extra padding
if we vote truth-telling keats, we have removed a town player with a useful night action

in this way, i can't see any world in which voting keats instead of clo first is the right thing unless someone has hard proof that keats is scum

this is pretty logical.

am i missing something (beyond me being impatient)?

# ? Jul 16, 2024 20:29

shwinnebego: Jul 11, 2002

##unvote

# ? Jul 16, 2024 20:30

shwinnebego: Jul 11, 2002

also taking suggestions on who to bodyguard tonight

# ? Jul 16, 2024 20:30

sharkmafia: Aug 20, 2018

SporkChan posted:

Toal was a mason with humalong folx.

oh right ok then

# ? Jul 16, 2024 20:36

Voodoofly: Jul 3, 2002; Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

sharkmafia posted:

oh right ok then

Why did you flip on clo so easily? You seemed pretty set on clo

# ? Jul 16, 2024 20:37

sharkmafia: Aug 20, 2018

Voodoofly posted:

Why did you flip on clo so easily? You seemed pretty set on clo

because clo didnt have much pressure on them. several people had already said they weren't willing to get clo and the thread was dead as gently caress. why do this, then?

shwinn also made a good point in hindsight that the most likely role to forget about the mass night action block is vanilla town, not scum

# ? Jul 16, 2024 20:38

Voodoofly: Jul 3, 2002; Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

sharkmafia posted:

because clo didnt have much pressure on them. several people had already said they weren't willing to get clo and the thread was dead as gently caress. why do this, then?

shwinn also made a good point in hindsight that the most likely role to forget about the mass night action block is vanilla town, not scum

Pretend I�m really dumb and don�t know what that last part means.

# ? Jul 16, 2024 20:40

Voodoofly: Jul 3, 2002; Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

I know it must be hard to pretend that

# ? Jul 16, 2024 20:41

sharkmafia: Aug 20, 2018

Voodoofly posted:

Pretend I�m really dumb and don�t know what that last part means.

if you were reading the part where i was saying we should kill clo you should have encountered this discussion

one of the reasons i was suspicious of clo was i thought they slipped by forgetting about the mass night action block from gozer's death. and then had to claim VT because that's what would make sense, even though it wouldn't match them being vigo. shwinn made the point that the scum likely would not forget about this even though it wouldn't directly affect them because they'd be discussing night actions in the doc overnight. so the most likely case for a person who actually would would be VT (or town with no active night actions/night relevant passives), as opposed to a scum fakeclaiming VT

# ? Jul 16, 2024 20:46

sharkmafia: Aug 20, 2018

btw and relevant to current discourse: i think voodoo has been flying under the radar and would be a good elimination. probably my preference based solely on play since i'm feeling less good about clo now

but it appears we're locked into a binary choice again

# ? Jul 16, 2024 21:28

shwinnebego: Jul 11, 2002

Has voodoo claimed

# ? Jul 16, 2024 22:24

shwinnebego: Jul 11, 2002

sharkmafia posted:

btw and relevant to current discourse: i think voodoo has been flying under the radar and would be a good elimination. probably my preference based solely on play since i'm feeling less good about clo now

but it appears we're locked into a binary choice again

I ain�t locked into poo poo I�m listening

# ? Jul 16, 2024 22:24

Voodoofly: Jul 3, 2002; Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

shwinnebego posted:

Has voodoo claimed

Nope

# ? Jul 16, 2024 22:30

Voodoofly: Jul 3, 2002; Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

sharkmafia posted:

if you were reading the part where i was saying we should kill clo you should have encountered this discussion

one of the reasons i was suspicious of clo was i thought they slipped by forgetting about the mass night action block from gozer's death. and then had to claim VT because that's what would make sense, even though it wouldn't match them being vigo. shwinn made the point that the scum likely would not forget about this even though it wouldn't directly affect them because they'd be discussing night actions in the doc overnight. so the most likely case for a person who actually would would be VT (or town with no active night actions/night relevant passives), as opposed to a scum fakeclaiming VT

Ok yeah that makes sense. And means Keats would have been able to backfill night targets with toalp claiming and then clo claiming

And believe me I can read something and forget it two minutes later

# ? Jul 16, 2024 22:31

Voodoofly: Jul 3, 2002; Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

shwinnebego posted:

Has voodoo claimed

Well I�ve claimed I�m human but nothing more.

# ? Jul 16, 2024 22:32

Voodoofly: Jul 3, 2002; Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Also my paranoid brain was working on the bus ride this morning and I was like: "you know, a one-way lover would be cool and shark seems pretty set on pushing how he must be town because of the lover thing" and "a scum role where if you die you take a townie with you seems pretty cool."

But that feels extremely mean in any EXLO situation. like maybe game breaking mean? like an execution proof scum is already a little mean to begin with but a scum that kills a townie feels even more unbalanced somehow.

So yeah I'm back to no way I'm voting shark again I'm willing to just lose on that assumption.

# ? Jul 16, 2024 22:38

Voodoofly: Jul 3, 2002; Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

sharkmafia posted:

btw and relevant to current discourse: i think voodoo has been flying under the radar and would be a good elimination. probably my preference based solely on play since i'm feeling less good about clo now

but it appears we're locked into a binary choice again

I mean I was pretty vocal about nep nep and about wanting to kill tmor and to a lesser extent cube.

But it was also the weekend and I've been slammed at work the last two days and should be working now but gently caress I need a break.

# ? Jul 16, 2024 22:39

Voodoofly: Jul 3, 2002; Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

Johnny Keats posted:

I'll start the Maug ball rolling. Based on all the data I don't see why the hell Spork isn't on that. It's not exactly normal phrasing ##Vote Maug

# ? Jul 16, 2024 22:43

Voodoofly: Jul 3, 2002; Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

yeah i guess keats/tmor would fit? tmor never pushes keats and keats jumped on tmor at first but then was pretty heaving pushing tmor.

also forgot that keats only claimed schwinn's role after schwinn claimed it too

# ? Jul 16, 2024 22:45

Voodoofly: Jul 3, 2002; Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

yeah gently caress it I'm blaming sand if this is wrong

##vote keats

# ? Jul 16, 2024 22:46

Tired Moritz: Mar 25, 2012; wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

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I'm actually leaning towards Keats but molly makes a fair point and I'm not sure I care for another day wasted because we're playing night mafia bingo instead of reading

I still wanna kill Spork who has successfully wasted two days and has not done much since

# ? Jul 16, 2024 23:12

shwinnebego: Jul 11, 2002

Okay all that�s happened is voodoo and shark making me vaguely sus the other. So now I still wanna vote Keats but with more fear uncertainty and doubt about it.

I�m glad we had this talk ##vote keats

# ? Jul 16, 2024 23:49

shwinnebego: Jul 11, 2002

Is there some obvious flavor poo poo about hum and toaly�s role where one is meant to be evil.

# ? Jul 16, 2024 23:50

shwinnebego: Jul 11, 2002

Hey obs! 🖕🏾

# ? Jul 16, 2024 23:50

Voodoofly: Jul 3, 2002; Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

At some point we have to risk losing. I think keats is more likely scum than clo at this point. Faking roleclaim results and messing up because clo lied makes sense. Plus I guess I should put some weight on sand screaming that keats is scum.

Whether clo is actually execution proof doesn't really weigh in for me. If she is scum and telling the truth we have to execute her twice. If she is town it's not like we are going to stop executing her after the first protection pops. Or I wouldn't because that wouldn't convince me someone isn't scum. maybe that would make others reconsider.

# ? Jul 16, 2024 23:51

shwinnebego: Jul 11, 2002

Yeah I�m ready to kill Keats again

# ? Jul 16, 2024 23:55

shwinnebego: Jul 11, 2002

(Execution-proof scum is an annoying role from a game design perspective but it�s possible, sure. Anyway.)

# ? Jul 16, 2024 23:57

Voodoofly: Jul 3, 2002; Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

shwinnebego posted:

(Execution-proof scum is an annoying role from a game design perspective but it�s possible, sure. Anyway.)

that's sort of where I came down on a one-way lover where the scum death kills town but not vice versa

# ? Jul 17, 2024 00:01

Voodoofly: Jul 3, 2002; Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

well in that it may be possible but that is so hard to deal with that I'm just going to assume its not possible

# ? Jul 17, 2024 00:01

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

Johnny Keats posted:

And to both of you: the role is called "miller"?

this is a role cop thing to say, but role cop is a scum role right. Plus we have a town cop. Doesn't make sense for a town and scum role cop... ##vote keats

# ? Jul 17, 2024 01:05

mollyohreally: Jan 10, 2020

Alright should I hammer Keats

# ? Jul 17, 2024 01:06

votefinder: Jul 6, 2010; scoop scoop

You spent all that time arguing and Johnny Keats is who you chose to hammer? Wow.

Votecount for Day 6

OOOOO Johnny Keats (5): shwinnebego, Cloacamazing!, sharkmafia, mollyohreally, ~~mollyohreally~~, ~~shwinnebego~~, Voodoofly, shwinnebego, Toalpaz
xxxOO Cloacamazing! (2): sharkmafia, shwinnebego, ~~shwinnebego~~, Johnny Keats, ~~sharkmafia~~, mollyohreally
xxxxO SporkChan (1): Tired Moritz, mollyohreally, ~~mollyohreally~~
xxxxx Voodoofly (0): Johnny Keats, ~~Johnny Keats~~
xxxxx Toalpaz (0): Cloacamazing!, ~~Cloacamazing!~~
xxxxx sharkmafia (0): shwinnebego, ~~shwinnebego~~

Not voting: SporkChan

With 9 alive, it's 5 votes to execute. The current deadline is July 17th, 2024 at 6 p.m. EDT -- that's in about 20 hours, 53 minutes.

# ? Jul 17, 2024 01:06

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

to be celar, I believe keats is a role cop AND scum

# ? Jul 17, 2024 01:08

Toalpaz: Mar 20, 2012; Peace through overwhelming determination

oh and we already flipped scum jugg so body guard is lying haha

# ? Jul 17, 2024 01:08

Tsietisin: Jul 2, 2004; Time passes quickly on the weekend.

You thought that you knew everything about these little beasties. You had read all the books, gone through parchments, conducted interviews and run tests. You had them all figured out.

This is why it was such a surprise when they all ganged up on you at once. You never saw it coming as what looked like at least half of the ghosts in the city were approaching. You and your pack could do nothing against them.

Realising that you had no chance against the ghosts in the city, you have decided to leave this life. You heard about a job in investment Banking at Duke & Duke and think that you will better use your skills in researching commodities. You will surely have a better life there.

Johnny Keats - Dr Raymond Stantz, Scum aligned Rolecop has left New York Day 6

quote:

Dr. Raymond Stantz

Throughout your life you have always believed in the existence of spooks, spectres and ghosts. Now you have been finally proved right with all the paranormal activity going on in New York.

You grew up reading all the books you could about all the mythical creatures and you know that this knowledge will be invaluable in the upcoming days.

You have noticed that the PKE readings in the city are reaching dangerous levels, indicating a presence of something stronger than your usual spirit.

You are Dr Raymond Stanz. SCUM aligned Rolecop.

Researcher - Once per night you can ##research another player. You will hit the books and find out that player�s role.

Cross the Streams - If you and all remaining Ghostbusters decide to ##Crossthestreams with a target, your night kill will bypass all defences, redirects and passive abilities. If you use this ability, you will lose the ability to ##Research that night.

You are SCUM aligned - You win when SCUM control the vote.

It is now Night 6 - I would look to start the next day in about 15 hours time, if people can get any night actions in by then.

# ? Jul 17, 2024 07:10

Tsietisin: Jul 2, 2004; Time passes quickly on the weekend.

After the death of Gozer you thought all hope had been lost. But you managed to rally round the troops and were able to oust one of the Ghostbusters. Victory for the spiritual team.

You settled down and got out the easel and mortar board ready for a nice relaxing evening with your watercolours. No sooner had you managed to get the right blend of Red Ochre and Brown Oxide, you heard an almighty racket and what sounded like a unlicensed nuclear accelerator powering up. You turn to see a curvy beam rushing towards you, which kills you instantly.

However, Death is but a doorway, Time is but a window. You had prepared for this by arranging for another of your paintings to be delivered to a lovely area in Californias beautiful San Fernando Valley.

No sooner had you exited your other painting, you hear a distinctive meow. Could it be? By some sheer luck Mr Fluffles had made it through in this painting. You have found your heart and soul again. Maybe this world does not need destroying after all.

Cloacamazing - Vigo The Cartpathian, Town aligned Voteproof has left New York and has been eliminated Night 6.

quote:

Vigo the Carpathian

As Vigo the Carpathian you are the epitome of misunderstood heroism. A charming tyrant, with your delightful nickname "Scourge of Carpathia," is just the kind of ruler every kingdom dreams of. After all, who wouldn�t appreciate a leader with a knack for genocide, torture, and an insatiable desire for eternal domination? Your portrait, an artistic masterpiece, captures not only your rugged good looks but also your warm, inviting presence that surely made everyone feel at ease.

It's not like you have any interest in ruling the world with an iron fist once more�no, no, it's all about giving back to the community. However, you are angry. Through the years you have waited to enact revenge upon the humans of this world who took you away from what you cared most. Mr Fluffles, your kitten.

Suffering from Carpathian Kitten Loss, you will ensure that your fellow ghosts are the ones left to rule this world.

You are Prince Vigo the Carpathian, Town Aligned Voteproof

Time is but a doorway, death is but a window, you�ll be back - The loss of Mr Fluffles has made you so angry that even getting voted out will not stop you. You have a one shot vote proof and you will remain in play if voted out one time.

You are town aligned and win when all threats to town are eliminated