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shwinnebego: Jul 11, 2002

kaschei posted:

I never figured out what this post meant, someone perform an interpretive dance I can comprehend

##vote kaschei

# ? Aug 7, 2024 12:40

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# ? May 17, 2025 19:03

Maerlyn: Jun 29, 2003; Everything at once
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I wrote some poo poo down at 2 am this morning and then left the notes on my desk 😕 I'm going to try to recreate when I get to work (I'll be available before deadline)

Will not vote Zoya, CapnAndy, Spork, Hal seems okay? I don't know what tipped me to thinking he looked scummy D1.

Would vote TM, Cube, tbd for the others

# ? Aug 7, 2024 12:47

JosefStalinator: Oct 9, 2007; Come Tbilisi if you want to live.; Grimey Drawer

shwinnebego posted:

##vote kaschei

I don't get it either if you want to explain shwinn

# ? Aug 7, 2024 12:50

kaschei: Oct 25, 2005

shwinnebego posted:

##vote kaschei

Did you become a jester overnight? I cannot figure out what alignment of shwinn says the things you've been saying today

# ? Aug 7, 2024 12:51

Maerlyn: Jun 29, 2003; Everything at once
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Hal Incandenza posted:

Yeah that a bad post with bad strategy and a double hedgey read, but she’s got a lot of good posts around it

Certainly “we got it wrong twice maybe we give up trying” isn’t pro-town

Forgot I wouldn't vote RWC, agree with Hal here... She seems a bit less focused today but her reads D1 and D2 came from a townie mindset. I don't blame her for today being like "gently caress it this poo poo's too weird let's no ex", reads more as frustration less scummy.

# ? Aug 7, 2024 12:56

SporkChan: Oct 20, 2010; One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

I'm at work, but I'll be around for the rest of the day. Still the Cube looks worst, but I don't like that drive by vote from shwinn.

And RWC just tossing her hands up and going "Let's just not vote out anyone!" does feel more frustrated town than scum, but it's still a bad plan.

# ? Aug 7, 2024 13:19

kaschei: Oct 25, 2005

Players ITT in postcount order as of 8am EDT/4 hours to deadline (first column is order in layer 2)

pre: 4 Zoya 3 Hal Incandenza (he/him/hal) 16 JosefStalinator (He/him) 13 Tired Moritz 14 ObamaAkbar. (He/him) 2 CubicalSucrose 6 Rhymes With Clue 17 Maerlyn (she/her) + CapnAndy (he/him, will also accept "cis scum") 11 SporkChan (He/Him) 5 shwinnebego (he/him) 10 EGalz18 (She/Her) 8 kaschei 9 Voodoofly (He/Him/Whatever)

# ? Aug 7, 2024 13:27

kaschei: Oct 25, 2005

kaschei posted:

Players ITT in postcount order as of 8am EDT/4 hours to deadline (first column is order in layer 1)

mafia edit

# ? Aug 7, 2024 13:28

Maerlyn: Jun 29, 2003; Everything at once
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I have less posts than Josef? Gross

# ? Aug 7, 2024 13:32

JosefStalinator: Oct 9, 2007; Come Tbilisi if you want to live.; Grimey Drawer

Maerlyn posted:

I have less posts than Josef? Gross

# ? Aug 7, 2024 13:33

JosefStalinator: Oct 9, 2007; Come Tbilisi if you want to live.; Grimey Drawer

Also, fewer

# ? Aug 7, 2024 13:33

SporkChan: Oct 20, 2010; One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

JosefStalinator posted:

Also, fewer

##vote Josef

# ? Aug 7, 2024 13:43

SporkChan: Oct 20, 2010; One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

Ahh, felt good.

# ? Aug 7, 2024 13:44

ObamaAkbar.: Apr 7, 2009; DesiredPopulationMin = 3
DesiredPopulationMax = 19
AverageDeathsPerDay = 6
WeaponsUsed = 13

Rereading voodoo and I could maybe see why some are voting him. Last thread he was very much padding his vote count (whether intentional or not) with Olympic posting, threw out a few reads but seemed kinda low effort. This thread he�s basically not been present

I�d still be reluctant to vote there over other candidates based on my reality thread read of him

# ? Aug 7, 2024 13:44

SporkChan: Oct 20, 2010; One day I will proofread my posts well, but today is not that day.

Back to game though.

##vote Cube

# ? Aug 7, 2024 13:44

ObamaAkbar.: Apr 7, 2009; DesiredPopulationMin = 3
DesiredPopulationMax = 19
AverageDeathsPerDay = 6
WeaponsUsed = 13

The one thing that I didn�t like from voodoo last thread was him putting me down as his town lock. Maybe it�s just me but I get very paranoid about being pocketed by scum, and I think voodoo knows that when he�s scum I can sometimes sniff him out

# ? Aug 7, 2024 13:45

ObamaAkbar.: Apr 7, 2009; DesiredPopulationMin = 3
DesiredPopulationMax = 19
AverageDeathsPerDay = 6
WeaponsUsed = 13

I wanted to reread Hal or EGalz too but not gonna have time. Will have to see if they are in the same thread as me tomorrow

# ? Aug 7, 2024 13:47

votefinder: Jul 6, 2010; scoop scoop

Votecount for Day 1

xxxxOOOO CubicalSucrose (4): Maerlyn, JosefStalinator, SporkChan, ObamaAkbar., ~~SporkChan~~, SporkChan
xxxxxOOO shwinnebego (3): Zoya, Tired Moritz, Rhymes With Clue
xxxxxxOO Voodoofly (2): kaschei, Hal Incandenza
xxxxxxxO kaschei (1): shwinnebego
xxxxxxxO JosefStalinator (1): CubicalSucrose, Rhymes With Clue, shwinnebego, ~~Rhymes With Clue~~, ~~shwinnebego~~, SporkChan, ~~SporkChan~~
xxxxxxxx Maerlyn (0): ObamaAkbar., ~~ObamaAkbar.~~
xxxxxxxx Zoya (0): shwinnebego, ~~shwinnebego~~

Not voting: CapnAndy, EGalz18, Voodoofly

With 14 alive, it's 8 votes to execute. The current deadline is August 07th, 2024 at noon EDT -- that's in about 3 hours, 3 minutes.

# ? Aug 7, 2024 13:56

wins32767: Mar 16, 2007

Night is going to be ~8 hours so we can reopen at 9pm EDT. Please preload your actions if you can, it makes our lives much, much easier.

# ? Aug 7, 2024 14:00

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

Hrm going to go with a gut feeling and ##vote shwinn

# ? Aug 7, 2024 14:17

kaschei: Oct 25, 2005

(posts are from layer1)

Hal Incandenza posted:

Yeah I'm about to leave for the night but I feel decent about these options. Felt ok about Maer earlier but reflecting on her play I see a lot of the illogical stuff that is a Maer scumtell to me

##vote Maer

Tired Moritz posted:

yeah I guess if we're voting between maer and tt, I would prefer Maer

##vote maer

These took voodoo's "let's thunderdome tt and maer" seriously and narrowed the focus last thread at a crucial time, I would vote either of these

Voodoo made his post when the votecount was (I removed the records of people with zero active votes):

votefinder posted:

Votecount for Day 1

xxxxxxxOOOO Tom Tucker (4): Zoya, ~~Zoya~~, yuming, Zoya, wologar, SporkChan
xxxxxxxxOOO Maerlyn (3): ObamaAkbar., CubicalSucrose, ~~CubicalSucrose~~, ~~ObamaAkbar.~~, EGalz18, ObamaAkbar., Voodoofly
xxxxxxxxOOO Zoya (3): PhantomMuzzles, Jose Valasquez, shwinnebego, Tom Tucker, ~~PhantomMuzzles~~
xxxxxxxxxOO shwinnebego (2): Tired Moritz, kaschei, Rhymes With Clue, ~~Rhymes With Clue~~, Rhymes With Clue, ~~kaschei~~
xxxxxxxxxOO yuming (2): kaschei, Hal Incandenza
xxxxxxxxxxO CubicalSucrose (1): wologar, ~~wologar~~, yuming, ~~yuming~~, Maerlyn, wologar, ~~wologar~~, wologar, ~~wologar~~, Voodoofly, ~~Voodoofly~~
xxxxxxxxxxO EGalz18 (1): CubicalSucrose, ~~CubicalSucrose~~, PhantomMuzzles
xxxxxxxxxxO JosefStalinator (1): wologar, ~~wologar~~, CubicalSucrose, ~~CubicalSucrose~~, CubicalSucrose, wologar, ~~wologar~~
xxxxxxxxxxO kaschei (1): shwinnebego, ~~shwinnebego~~, Sandwolf

So I feel best about voting Voodoo as scum, zoya as a rescuee, hal and t.mo as accomplices, basically in that order

# ? Aug 7, 2024 14:28

kaschei: Oct 25, 2005

actually the accomplices are more culpable than zoya on a little thinking about it, so voodoo>>hal/tmo>zoya

# ? Aug 7, 2024 14:32

ObamaAkbar.: Apr 7, 2009; DesiredPopulationMin = 3
DesiredPopulationMax = 19
AverageDeathsPerDay = 6
WeaponsUsed = 13

I agree those votes from Hal and TMor don�t look great. TMor has kind of escaped my attention today and he�s hard to read as it is. Will need to have a hard look at him tomorrow if we share a thread

# ? Aug 7, 2024 14:38

ObamaAkbar.: Apr 7, 2009; DesiredPopulationMin = 3
DesiredPopulationMax = 19
AverageDeathsPerDay = 6
WeaponsUsed = 13

I don�t think scum voodoo would be leading his scumbuds openly in the thread like that though so I�d actually put him below Hal and TMor

# ? Aug 7, 2024 14:39

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

ObamaAkbar. posted:

I agree those votes from Hal and TMor don�t look great. TMor has kind of escaped my attention today and he�s hard to read as it is. Will need to have a hard look at him tomorrow if we share a thread

Why don't they look great? Because I didn't vote for Zoya? Maer and Zoya are both still unknowns, why is voting one instead of the other particularly bad?

# ? Aug 7, 2024 15:09

ObamaAkbar.: Apr 7, 2009; DesiredPopulationMin = 3
DesiredPopulationMax = 19
AverageDeathsPerDay = 6
WeaponsUsed = 13

Hal Incandenza posted:

Why don't they look great? Because I didn't vote for Zoya? Maer and Zoya are both still unknowns, why is voting one instead of the other particularly bad?

Just the flip from having a vague town read to a scum read of mae seems kind of flippant. I�m commenting on a largely out of context post to be fair

# ? Aug 7, 2024 15:14

wins32767: Mar 16, 2007

Votecount for Day 1

xxxxOOOO CubicalSucrose (4): Maerlyn, JosefStalinator, SporkChan, ObamaAkbar., ~~SporkChan~~, SporkChan
xxxxOOOO shwinnebego (4): Zoya, Tired Moritz, Rhymes With Clue, Hal Incandenza
xxxxxxxO kaschei (1): shwinnebego
xxxxxxxO Voodoofly (1): kaschei, Hal Incandenza, ~~Hal Incandenza~~
xxxxxxxO JosefStalinator (1): CubicalSucrose, Rhymes With Clue, shwinnebego, ~~Rhymes With Clue~~, ~~shwinnebego~~, SporkChan, ~~SporkChan~~
xxxxxxxx Maerlyn (0): ObamaAkbar., ~~ObamaAkbar.~~
xxxxxxxx Zoya (0): shwinnebego, ~~shwinnebego~~

Not voting: CapnAndy, EGalz18, Voodoofly

With 14 alive, it's 8 votes to execute. The current deadline is August 07th, 2024 at noon EDT -- that's in about 1 hour, 43 minutes.

# ? Aug 7, 2024 15:16

Voodoofly: Jul 3, 2002; Some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help

poo poo forgot about this.

Quick summary of cases on schwinn and cube or is it basically schwinn all over the place and cube being cube?

# ? Aug 7, 2024 15:20

Maerlyn: Jun 29, 2003; Everything at once
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I'm feeling more inclined to vote TM after reading back

Day 1 he defends Meen by saying he really doesn't think he's scum, but at deadline says "oh fine" and hops on the wagon

He's spent a lot of time today going after Cap which is popular for scum (chasing down 3P instead of looking for scum.

I'm still reading back but if not today he's a major candidate for a vote tomorrow.

# ? Aug 7, 2024 15:21

ObamaAkbar.: Apr 7, 2009; DesiredPopulationMin = 3
DesiredPopulationMax = 19
AverageDeathsPerDay = 6
WeaponsUsed = 13

Voodoofly posted:

poo poo forgot about this.

Quick summary of cases on schwinn and cube or is it basically schwinn all over the place and cube being cube?

Basically, and cube posting poo poo like:

CubicalSucrose posted:

Has anyone backread Wologar yet? Maybe they called the scum team and scum were concerned.

Instead of doing his own work. Just seems like he�s posting to look active

# ? Aug 7, 2024 15:25

Maerlyn: Jun 29, 2003; Everything at once
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Voodoofly posted:

poo poo forgot about this.

Quick summary of cases on schwinn and cube or is it basically schwinn all over the place and cube being cube?

I haven't really reread shwinn but best as I can tell he made a bad post on coordinating night actions but I don't think everyone was being sincere in thinking it was bad (he must be scum for suggesting it)

# ? Aug 7, 2024 15:28

JosefStalinator: Oct 9, 2007; Come Tbilisi if you want to live.; Grimey Drawer

I think both shwinn and cube are scum and scum is hoping for a no exe

# ? Aug 7, 2024 15:31

CubicalSucrose: Jan 1, 2013; Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

JosefStalinator posted:

Why do I care about my post count?

# ? Aug 7, 2024 15:32

JosefStalinator: Oct 9, 2007; Come Tbilisi if you want to live.; Grimey Drawer

rereading day 2 (layer 2) cube seems so much less scummy than today

# ? Aug 7, 2024 15:32

JosefStalinator: Oct 9, 2007; Come Tbilisi if you want to live.; Grimey Drawer

CubicalSucrose posted:

cube who scum if not me

# ? Aug 7, 2024 15:33

CubicalSucrose: Jan 1, 2013; Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Tired Moritz posted:

Was Schwinne day 2 really decent?

Maybe? I'd have to reread.

# ? Aug 7, 2024 15:33

CubicalSucrose: Jan 1, 2013; Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

JosefStalinator posted:

cube who scum if not me

I'm 130 posts behind will get to it soon-ish.

# ? Aug 7, 2024 15:33

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Voodoofly posted:

poo poo forgot about this.

Quick summary of cases on schwinn and cube or is it basically schwinn all over the place and cube being cube?

schwinne yes, I don't know what cube is usually like.

Cube insinuates a result that JS was scum:

CubicalSucrose posted:

Because I don't want to fullclaim and hardpush JS today if I missed something.

But walks it back:

CubicalSucrose posted:

And it wasn't necessarily that JS was scum, but at worst JS would've been vanilla yet again so on another D1 with a really quick deadline, seemed like a good route to push.

Which is bizarre, because from my understanding of what's been happening to you real people, you're all still in N1 and nobody's gotten any results back at all. Cube then makes a "case" on JS that does not require results:

CubicalSucrose posted:

Okay. Here's where my head was at earlier today.

1) I have thought JS scummy since D1.
2) I was VT Level 0, VT Level 1 (Train), non-VT Level 2 (School).
3) JS was on the borderline of activity in Level 1 and didn't make any strong efforts to post out of it (contrast with EGalz who I pushed similarly in the Train).
4) Short day.
5) JS asked for results today.
6) I haven't fully reread the previous days.

JS asking about results suggests something like one of:
A) They are VT L0 & L1 & L2 (in which case, why risk staying on L1 with too-low activity to guarantee a slot in L2?).
B) They are scum trying to fish out power roles and/or setup info.

Rather than asking people for a scum case on JS (because I already had a scum read on JS), I asked for town cases (because of point #6 above I might've forgotten something important that JS did that was a good thing).

Since we're now two power roles down, and again short day, it seems like eliminating an at-worst-VT is a pretty good starting point for this day. We also have the CapnAndy default elim if we want, but I think JS is scummier.

And then mostly goes silent/posts white noise, with one last "case":

CubicalSucrose posted:

1) Point me to three good JS posts across the whole game.
2) Why would JS, as VT, end D2 16th in postcount?

That's Cube's last post in this thread.

It's nothing but softclaiming a result he couldn't have and then harping on postcount, for some reason, while shifting the burden of proof ("point to me three good JS posts" -- no, it's your responsibility to show us bad ones if you think he's scum).

Shwinne on the other hand is just being goddamn strange. Trying to coordinate night actions, being way too into the weeds about mechanics and setup, making a vote very close to deadline with no rationale for someone who isn't a vote leader. It's been weird behavior all day.

After sleeping on it, my thought is this: scum have buddies. Cube made an impossible softclaim, walked it back, and then went successively more and more quiet. This reads consistent with someone who's got teammates telling him "you screwed up, walk it back and go quiet and we'll see if we can get heat off you". Shwinne has continued to be weird. If he's got scumbuddies, he's either ignoring him or they either cut bait.

##vote Cube but seriously shwinne, so weird!

# ? Aug 7, 2024 15:34

ObamaAkbar.: Apr 7, 2009; DesiredPopulationMin = 3
DesiredPopulationMax = 19
AverageDeathsPerDay = 6
WeaponsUsed = 13

Well there is 4 of us here who are not voting or on cube so we could secure a schwinn elimination if it comes to it

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# ? May 17, 2025 19:03

CubicalSucrose: Jan 1, 2013; Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

JosefStalinator posted:

Has voodoo done anything today? Wolo.wss most dramatic about them

Voodoo and Kaschei each had been minimally active at this point, Kaschei had been called out about it earlier I think.

# ? Aug 7, 2024 15:35

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