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aside from what i revealed for the benefit of town gaining knowledge that scum presumably had the whole time, i don't think it's a good idea to ever claim anything at all in this game (unless you stay behind in a layer) in one sense, we're in D3 of a game right now. but in another very real sense, we're always in D1 unless we stay behind, where/when we can play "normal" mafia and get night results and corner scum more easily this is a very weird setup and it's pretty wild to see it in action
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CubicalSucrose posted:Because I don't want to fullclaim and hardpush JS today if I missed something. I really don't understand this. What would you be claiming? Because this: Zoya posted:no. this is somewhat stupid for me to reveal but scum will already know it explicitly and VT do not, so i think it's probably a net benefit -- i've been VT in reality and VT in the dream, but i actually have an action now, and i can explicitly confirm you have to choose between taking your action and dreaming again. so we'll probably never get night action results if we keep going deeper into the dream, only the people that stay behind will get them CubicalSucrose posted:Well Zoya beat me to it. makes me think you are just going to claim that you have an action and JS doesn't, which somehow makes him worthy of being voted. If I'm misunderstanding and you have some night action result I'd love to hear it. And to hear how you descended both nights but also got a result of any kind.
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Zoya posted:it's really hard not to feel like we're in an eternal D1 in this game I hope town have some means of communicating outside the thread because if we follow the rules as instructed, we don't know if anyone was voted out on the other layers or if they were scum. It is hard to make reads on not the most current info.
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Zoya posted:he was (presumably) going to reveal the same thing i did ah I suppose I should go back and actually read to see what else I missed
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Zoya posted:aside from what i revealed for the benefit of town gaining knowledge that scum presumably had the whole time, i don't think it's a good idea to ever claim anything at all in this game (unless you stay behind in a layer) 1. This setup is weird, but awesome and I'm so happy I'm in the game. 2. Haven't we been assuming that 'dreaming' takes the place of a night action all game? I know someone mentioned that the killer of zzyzx must have stayed behind in 'reality' in order to do the kill in the Layer 1 thread.
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Maerlyn posted:I hope town have some means of communicating outside the thread because if we follow the rules as instructed, we don't know if anyone was voted out on the other layers or if they were scum. It is hard to make reads on not the most current info. well, that's not our problem, is the way i see it. we're in a game with just the
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Maerlyn posted:ah I suppose I should go back and actually read to see what else I missed well, also, SporkChan posted:I really don't understand this. What would you be claiming? yeah i don't really understand what cube revealing the "you have to choose dream or action" info bit has anything to do with Josef. he framed the information weirdly, i'd like to know why
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Maerlyn posted:on what are you basing your information? I came to the same conclusion based on logic
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Zoya posted:well, also, Thirding this, I thought it weird in the moment and meant to say something too
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SporkChan posted:1. This setup is weird, but awesome and I'm so happy I'm in the game. we've been assuming it but didn't know it explicitly. scum would have known it explicitly because theyve had a NK action all game, whereas (most of) town haven't had actions, some still don't i thought it would be to town's general benefit to reveal it, since the action i got doesn't seem very critical so it wouldn't be a huge detriment if revealing i have an action got me killed or RB'd or something
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Votecount for Day 1 xxxxxxxO CubicalSucrose (1): Maerlyn xxxxxxxO Zoya (1): shwinnebego xxxxxxxO JosefStalinator (1): CubicalSucrose Not voting: CapnAndy, EGalz18, Hal Incandenza, JosefStalinator, kaschei, ObamaAkbar., Rhymes With Clue, SporkChan, Tired Moritz, Voodoofly, Zoya With 14 alive, it's 8 votes to execute. The current deadline is August 07th, 2024 at noon EDT -- that's in about 21 hours, 57 minutes.
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CapnAndy posted:I'm here to help! If you're allowed to read the main game are you allowed to pass on whatever happened in thread after D1 hammer (around page 35)?
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JS's result-fishing has led to two outed power roles for this layer.
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Maerlyn posted:If you're allowed to read the main game are you allowed to pass on whatever happened in thread after D1 hammer (around page 35)? He already said he can only read the D1 stuff from both threads same as us unfortunately
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Maerlyn posted:If you're allowed to read the main game are you allowed to pass on whatever happened in thread after D1 hammer (around page 35)? CapnAndy posted:No, sorry. "A certain point" was meant to modify both "the main game" and "the first dream"; I've got cutout points on both.
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CubicalSucrose posted:JS's result-fishing has led to two outed power roles for this layer. 
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Zoya posted:aside from what i revealed for the benefit of town gaining knowledge that scum presumably had the whole time, i don't think it's a good idea to ever claim anything at all in this game (unless you stay behind in a layer) Maybe that is one of the reason for dream players?
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CubicalSucrose posted:JS's result-fishing has led to two outed power roles for this layer. His what now?
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Maerlyn posted:on what are you basing your information? Wol dying and generally understanding how mafia works? As someone who has to make a real decision tonight, it was very top of mind.
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Hal Incandenza posted:His what now? JosefStalinator posted:And probably never will be sadly
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SporkChan posted:
If JS were legit Vanilla this whole time they should've been posting more yesterday.
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CubicalSucrose posted:JS's result-fishing has led to two outed power roles for this layer. what did i fish and where
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asking for night results is not role fishing hth
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oh results fishing, okay, I guess but I dont see why people needed to say their roles to that rather than just be silent
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CubicalSucrose posted:If JS were legit Vanilla this whole time they should've been posting more yesterday. i can't put my finger on why exactly but the way you're going about sussing josef today doesn't feel right it feels like you're working backwards
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I also gained an action, but won’t be full claiming. It seems to me that we might want to try to coordinate who goes another layer deep tomorrow For today I shall assume scum on the tucker elimination and start by hunting among those of you who voted there
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shwinnebego posted:It seems to me that we might want to try to coordinate who goes another layer deep tomorrow
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i really hate that post ##vote shwinne
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Zoya doesn’t like (1) the fact that I voted her and (2) the fact that I am encouraging town to think about who should stay behind, which her scum team is already doing
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shwinnebego posted:I also gained an action, but won’t be full claiming. It seems to me that we might want to try to coordinate who goes another layer deep tomorrow I think the only coordinating we are going to be doing is trying to out-post the people we don't want there.
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SporkChan posted:I think the only coordinating we are going to be doing is trying to out-post the people we don't want there. It seems like more people gain powers and kind of naturally slough off as they choose to act instead of dream
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Zoya posted:i really hate that post ##vote shwinne Did I want to keep Shwinn before today? They were high-posting yesterday, I think, yeah? Here's ~where I'm at right now, I think. Scummier JosefStalinator (He/him) shwinnebego (he/him) Tired Moritz [default option] CapnAndy (he/him, will also accept "cis scum") kaschei Voodoofly (He/Him/Whatever) ObamaAkbar. (He/him) Rhymes With Clue EGalz18 (She/Her) Maerlyn (she/her) Hal Incandenza (he/him/hal) SporkChan (He/Him) Zoya Townier
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SporkChan posted:I think the only coordinating we are going to be doing is trying to out-post the people we don't want there. We could also agree to have people not descend. Scum is doing this and we should at least consider it too
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JosefStalinator posted:It seems like more people gain powers and kind of naturally slough off as they choose to act instead of dream Yes, but I don't think we are going to get people volunteering to stay behind or anything like that. If group consensus was that you, Josef, should stay behind because you haven't gotten any powers yet, clearly you won't get any (or some reasoning), would you actually listen? I doubt I would. Lower levels are where the fun is!
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shwinnebego posted:We could also agree to have people not descend. Scum is doing this and we should at least consider it too We don't know that. For all we know scum have all been descending and each kill we've been told about was a town night vig. Even if they've been leaving one behind each day, the scum density has been increasing as we go down layers.
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Yes but scum can talk about these matters and try to strategize about who uses the dream machine to descend, who kills, who makes sure to hit a high post count etc
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My opinion about this is so uncontroversially and self evidently correct that I swear anyone who disagrees has to be scum lol
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shwinnebego posted:Zoya doesn’t like (1) the fact that I voted her and (2) the fact that I am encouraging town to think about who should stay behind, which her scum team is already doing no, i don't like that you want to publicly coordinate town actions, telling scum exactly who to kill yes, scum can guess that the player with the highest post count probably won't be taking an action other than dreaming, but if i say "aha, yes, i will be staying behind" then they know that i will be taking [some action] and it's in scum's best interests to prevent town from taking actions since they don't know if it's a cop, a doc, a vig, whatever wologar was a very weird kill choice, for that matter, but it's not really worth thinking about too hard because that's what the "deep dream" team have to figure out today without us
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