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not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
I started drinking that Black Blood of the Earth coffee from funranium so I might just skip the middle man and just time travel because Jesus Christ this poo poo is wild

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Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

Torrannor posted:

The president of Colombia folded though...

At least from what I've been able to put together, Colombia is sending a plane to transport deportees but it sounds like it's just to pick up the ~80 deportees that were diverted to Honduras after they were refused permission to land. This was spun by a few outlets as ''Colombia caves!" but seems like Colombia is holding firm on all future flights from the US.

Some additional background on how this is a bigger Latin American thing:

https://bsky.app/profile/whiskeynachos.bsky.social/post/3lgocqpjhks2a posted:

Let's recap the timeline for those of you who haven't been following.

Friday: a deportation flight containing 88 Brazilians takes off from American soil. The deportees are handcuffed and bound in leg irons, as is standard practice on such flights. The Americans are flying into a trap.

Interior Minister Ricardo Lewandowski has ordered Federal police to board the plane when it stops to refuel in Manaus. Lula has made sure television cameras are on hand. The police pretend to be shocked to find the deportees restrained, and order them released on the spot.

Scenes of crying deportees fill the evening news. The grateful Brazilians are given showers and beds in the airport. Lula denounces the conditions, comparing them to SLAVE SHIPS, and says Brazil will accept no more flights until they're improved.

Saturday: a Brazilian air force aircraft arrives in Manaus to bring the Brazilians home. (a few stay, wanting to go to nearby locations) Powerful scenes fill the evening news as the grateful Brazilians sing the national anthem in unison as the plane takes off.

Sunday: these photos and videos have made the rounds in Latin America, and Colombia's president Petro is feeling political heat over flights scheduled to arrive today. He orders them stopped likewise until conditions are improved.

Donald Trump loses his poo poo. He is being played like a fiddle, but doesn't know it. He orders retaliation, and punitive sanctions and tariffs are impsed on Colombia.

Trump has just put sanctions on our largest supplier of cut flowers and coffee days before Valentine's day.

Point to Lula.

And Mexico is also refusing deportation flights so there's a good possibility of this thing snowballing quickly.

MrMojok
Jan 27, 2011

It is high time other nations start thinking of forming a coalition against the unchecked aggression of the USA

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

The numbers don't lie, we're all fucked.
Additional context: Donnie's crackdown is sucking.

He's getting 280-600 arrests a day so far and has decided to quota ICE to make 1200-1500 or else. He doesn't have the people to do that and he's demanding regular agents cancel all of their personal leave and other poo poo that won't work to get the numbers up. So he's likely raging about anything possible instead of diplomatically hashing that poo poo out with other countries. Fun!

Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

MrMojok posted:

It is high time other nations start thinking of forming a coalition against the unchecked aggression of the USA

Canada should have started working on a nuclear weapons program eight years ago. We're deeply back into "incineration without representation" territory now that our closest "ally" is more likely to invade us than use MAD as a deterrent against anyone invading us.

Casimir Radon
Aug 1, 2008


Might as well start teaching the dumber people in the country how tariffs actually work. I feel like the only real shot we have of pulling out of this death spiral at all is for people to get hurt really badly while dumbfuck threatens our allies and demands they put him on Mount Rushmore.

That Works
Jul 21, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Good statement

https://peoplesdispatch.org/2025/01/26/gustavo-petro-responds-to-trump-overthrow-methe-americas-and-humanity-will-respond/

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar
i wish no violence upon him but i hope that every single other person on this planet does whatever they can to make trump furious and mad. do whatever stupid petty poo poo they need to do to get under his skin.

mostly i just hope he's stopped by whatever means possible, so actual other country leaders telling him to get hosed are excellent

Itchy_Grundle
Feb 22, 2003

drat.

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
It seems like the new game in town for world leaders is calling trump a punk rear end trick to his face and I'm all for it.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


facialimpediment posted:

Additional context: Donnie's crackdown is sucking.

He's getting 280-600 arrests a day so far and has decided to quota ICE to make 1200-1500 or else.


lol, or else what?

not caring here posted:

It seems like the new game in town for world leaders is calling trump a punk rear end trick to his face and I'm all for it.

:same:

Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine

not caring here posted:

It seems like the new game in town for world leaders is calling trump a punk rear end trick to his face and I'm all for it.

empty quoting, no notes

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

Arcella posted:

Really? I just go to the grocery store.

https://www.sweetmarias.com/

store bought coffee is old and bad. roast your own and its a different experience

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus

facialimpediment posted:

Additional context: Donnie's crackdown is sucking.

He's getting 280-600 arrests a day so far and has decided to quota ICE to make 1200-1500 or else. He doesn't have the people to do that and he's demanding regular agents cancel all of their personal leave and other poo poo that won't work to get the numbers up. So he's likely raging about anything possible instead of diplomatically hashing that poo poo out with other countries. Fun!

1500 a day? where the gently caress do they plan on holding them?

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

MrMojok posted:

It is high time other nations start thinking of forming a coalition against the unchecked aggression of the USA

Abso-loving-lutely. Truth be told it could have happened much earlier but now there's no real point in even bothering to play the rigged game

Casimir Radon
Aug 1, 2008


ded posted:

1500 a day? where the gently caress do they plan on holding them?
Concept of a plan etc. Two things probably going to happen. They’ll start grabbing citizens who don’t pass the paper bag test, and even the most fervent Donnie fans in ICE will become absolutely burned out from not being able to meet the quota.

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

ded posted:

1500 a day? where the gently caress do they plan on holding them?

You only need to hold people if you're following something resembling due process....

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

Blue Jackoffs are Rags west
What's the current count of recognized independent countries in the world and what's the current count on how many he's pissed off in six days?

Quackles
Aug 11, 2018

Pixels of Light.



CBJSprague24 posted:

What's the current count of recognized independent countries in the world and what's the current count on how many he's pissed off in six days?

Somewhere between 195-205.

Casimir Radon
Aug 1, 2008


Columbia has now caved. gently caress. You can’t deal with him like this.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

The numbers don't lie, we're all fucked.

Casimir Radon posted:

Columbia has now caved. gently caress. You can’t deal with him like this.

Agreed, but it does sound like Colombia also hosed up by approving the flights in the first place. Terrifying Effigies does have a good recap earlier here. There's also this from CNN:

quote:

“The Colombian Council on International Relations (CORI) calls on the national government to exercise its foreign policy with responsibility, pragmatism and strategy. … There is no room for improvisation in international relations,” the group said in a statement.

The group also said migration flows must be addressed in compliance with bilateral agreements, noting that in 2024, 124 deportation flights were carried out from the US to Colombia with the approval of both governments, in what it called a “historic and permanent mechanism.”

So sounds like Donnie and co were just real asses/dickbags about the whole thing instead of solving it by the usual diplomacy. They'll get hosed up by that approach yet.

Fallom
Sep 6, 2008

So much for the warrior who rode their lands, shouting freedom

Serjeant Buzfuz
Dec 4, 2009

Discussion Quorum posted:

Hell yeah we got our first trade war and it's even dumber than I expected

*Cartman running through the school hallways screaming* TRADE WAAAAARRRRRRRRR

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

The numbers don't lie, we're all fucked.
Alternatively, things may have went like this:

https://bsky.app/profile/akivamcohen.bsky.social/post/3lgp2hha7fc2g

quote:

Colombia: We're not taking shackled detainees returned on military flights. Transport them with dignity

Trump: Trade war!

Colombia: OK

Trump: Fine, no more shackled detainees returned on military flights

Colombia: Good. Was that so hard?

Trump: They gave in!

A nuanced thing spun by everyone as caving/standing up/etc when it was likely all spurred on my the images of the deportees being shackled on the military flights.

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

New SecDef is refusing to call bases their "new" names, instead using the old Confederate naming.

That Works
Jul 21, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


bulletsponge13 posted:

New SecDef is refusing to call bases their "new" names, instead using the old Confederate naming.

I figured that was a given

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

bulletsponge13 posted:

New SecDef is refusing to call bases their "new" names, instead using the old Confederate naming.

tell him he's a coward. he should switch to the new NEW names, after real strong generals. Rommel, von Manstein, Kuchler. You know, names that have that all american quality to them

Fallom
Sep 6, 2008

bulletsponge13 posted:

New SecDef is refusing to call bases their "new" names, instead using the old Confederate naming.

The old names were restored or are being restored

SerthVarnee
Mar 13, 2011

oh what a day, what a lovely day
Big Super Slapstick Hunk
Just change them to the names that comes up most often.

Camp Hillary.
Camp Clinton.
Fort Soros.
Fortress Pelosi.

I'm sure they'll enjoy the "named after defeated enemy leaders" excuse and it keeps them from going back to using "team slave-owner" names.

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009
Fort Rosenbergs when?

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

Utterly Dethpicable

ded posted:

1500 a day? where the gently caress do they plan on holding them?

Well they'll pile them on top of each other until that no longer works, then contracts will be handed out to buddies to make windowless buildings to concentrate the problem until a final solution can be devised.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

The numbers don't lie, we're all fucked.
NVIDIA's stock price is down 16% and a whole bunch of tech stocks took big ol' hits this morning. Apparently a Chinese AI lab, Deepseek, made an open-source LLM ChatGPT-alike that's dramatically cheaper to use and maintain:

forbes posted:

This cost efficiency is reflected in the API pricing for DeepSeek-R1, which costs just $0.55 per million input tokens and $2.19 per million output tokens — significantly undercutting OpenAI’s API rates of $15 and $60, respectively.

Lots of sketchy-ish claims (like the whole thing costing $6M but nobody can track down where that came from), but it's enough to make me laugh at Donnie's big $500B AI plan that gets utterly annihilated if those numbers are even close to true. Added bonus that it would probably be The Big Moment where the AI bubble pops.

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar
lol when this AI poo poo leads to its own economic crash due to everyone, EVERYONE throwing themselves on the bubble

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

Zamujasa posted:

lol when this AI poo poo leads to its own economic crash due to everyone, EVERYONE throwing themselves on the bubble

2008 redux but stupider because it's based on computer digits, automated shitposting, and fake seven fingered photographs instead of housing people live in.

Fits right in with 2025 so sure why not? Sounds about right. Let's kick this poo poo in gear.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008

MFW people don't read the theory

I just read the readout from new SecDef and he mentioned Iron Dome for America? Are we worried about Quebec or Mexico launching rockets onto our crossborder cities?

Pine Cone Jones
Dec 6, 2009

You throw me the acorn, I throw you the whip!

Nick Soapdish posted:

I just read the readout from new SecDef and he mentioned Iron Dome for America? Are we worried about Quebec or Mexico launching rockets onto our crossborder cities?

BRING BACK THE NIKE BASES WE NEED THE NIKES TO KEEP AWAY THOSE PERFIDIOUS AVRO ARROWS

Soylent Pudding
Jun 22, 2007

We've got people!


I'm not an AI knower, but from what I've read it allegedly has three major advantages.

First, they accepted a loss of precision on individual nodes, allowing it to run better on lower end hardware.

Second, they claim to have improved the parsing, so it's better able to recognize and tokenize phrases instead of individual words.

Third, and this seems like the biggest one to me, is that instead of creating one single super genius model that can answer every question, it runs many smaller models that specialize in certain domains. So rather than needing to run the entire model for everything, it essentially puts together a team of smaller models and only needs to run a subset.

Again, this is just what I've read from somewhat credible seeming reporting. I don't really trust anyone in the AI space to be honest about anything. But this model is supposed to be open source so after a few days people will be able to actually validate some of the claims.

Defenestrategy
Oct 24, 2010

So.... like a lot of chinese tech that undercuts established things there are significant trade offs. It's less "powerful" which is why its cheaper. Gpt4 is at 170trillion params. Deepseek is 600 billion. More params dont mean more better usually but if the training data is good a 1b model will be less performant that a 12b or 30b model by an equivalent dataset. The other issue is that chinese models generally, obviously, train with a dataset that includes a ton of hanzi which is problematic because sometimes probability will spit out chinese characters and ruin your output.


It has cool stuff going for it, and its really cool its been opensourced, but a gpt replacement? Eh.

Edit: it also doesnt help that most credible benchmarks are vibes based because the benchmark questions have been trained into the model so theyre just being tested on recall instead of producing an answer based basically on their own production.

Defenestrategy fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Jan 27, 2025

UHD
Nov 11, 2006


facialimpediment posted:

Added bonus that it would probably be The Big Moment where the AI bubble pops.

inshallah

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Hyrax Attack!
Jan 13, 2009

We demand to be taken seriously

Nick Soapdish posted:

I just read the readout from new SecDef and he mentioned Iron Dome for America? Are we worried about Quebec or Mexico launching rockets onto our crossborder cities?

I’ve visited Warrenton, OR, I’ve seen where a Japanese submarine surfaced & fired wildly at a fort before leaving & the historical marker where we lost a baseball backstop. Whatever it takes to defend us.

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