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Madurai posted:Sure, there's racist chuds, and sure there's FYIGM business bros, but the deep underpenning of American conservatism is "EVERYTHING SHOULD BE THE WAY I REMEMBER IT WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER" you're forgetting "literally studies the tenants of fascism and wakes up in the morning trying to make the world more fascist as an ideological project in of itself and not a rugpull by business interests." like stephen miller or the dork enlightenment or the stone toss guy. CBJSprague24 posted:My dad, who just turned 80, has started to realize that Trump throws a hissy fit every time he doesn't get his way and is tired of the schtick. The Tuskegee Airmen thing may finally have broken him. Same but my dad was a BP agent and was trying to join the LAPD in the 70s after voluntarily being in vietnam multiple times when the feds called. He's pretty drat happy. The only thing that's only kinda broken that is pointing out how the social security office and other agencies getting hosed is going to ruin my attempts at getting disability. Like most things in life I've kinda given up hope on it but continue to go through the motions and paperwork and see what happens. I checked the SSA website for my case and quote:Your Benefit Applications  . This is my 3rd case (including 1st denials, 2nd denials, and seeing the judge for both of the first two cases), I have been at this poo poo for 5 years now.
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Ronwayne posted:you're forgetting "literally studies the tenants of fascism and wakes up in the morning trying to make the world more fascist as an ideological project in of itself and not a rugpull by business interests." like stephen miller or the dork enlightenment or the stone toss guy. I don't remember if it was pointed out here or another subforum, but the writer of that Star Trek episode that had the architect of the Nazi planet trying to emulate "the most efficient form of government Earth ever had" has a lot to answer for.
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The worst IRL people generally like one of the rear end in a top hat opponents of the federation, its just a question of which faction of shitheads they admire most.
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if you rely on a school loan, are paying off a school loan, use a pell grant or GI Bill you may be hosed.
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citybeatnik posted:You'd think that one of the Big 4 firms like mine would be able to spot a stupid idea and not pour money into it but lulz. You at the green dot or one of the others? We’ve been pouring a ridiculous amount of investment into our AI and GenAI practices (yes they’re separate because lol)
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ded posted:if you rely on a school loan, are paying off a school loan, use a pell grant or GI Bill you may be hosed. Are they nuking GI bills too?
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Crab Dad posted:Are they nuking GI bills too? the stuff i saw said ~all~ federal funding but you know how this poo poo works now. they throw a wrench and break everything then say oopsiedoodle https://bsky.app/profile/weisselberger.bsky.social/post/3lgrlugu2ek2v edit : i hope i'm way off base on this from a wapo article https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/01/27/white-house-pauses-federal-grants/  ded fucked around with this message at 11:07 on Jan 28, 2025 |
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Trying not to freak out about this given that my wife and I both run federally funded labs and pay all of our students and employees off of federal grants. We also moved and just bought a new house so it’s not like we’re sitting on a pile of money to sock away long-term like we would normally be
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ded posted:the stuff i saw said ~all~ federal funding but you know how this poo poo works now. they throw a wrench and break everything then say oopsiedoodle Haha what the fuuuuuuuuuck
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ded posted:the stuff i saw said ~all~ federal funding but you know how this poo poo works now. they throw a wrench and break everything then say oopsiedoodle The article says that assistance to individuals was specifically exempted, and the goal is to halt “woke DEI grants”
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So basically collapse everything, do as he pleases, fashion everything in his liking?
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They're just running through the ICU pulling electrical plugs out of the wall at this point. As much as there's the assumption that the GOP will stand by at let him do whatever he wants, he's burning *a lot* of political capital fast and blowing up things that even some GOP lawmakers and constituencies care about. Wildcard is this plus the China AI thing speed run the stockmarket into a sell-off a pass off the donors.
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Unless that's the whole point and while people are trying to deal with that, things are being done that can't be undone. I have no idea what to expect anymore but it seems Project 2025 is happening and this is all just the beginning.
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I kind of figured they were gonna do what they said they were gonna do.
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That Works posted:I kind of figured they were gonna do what they said they were gonna do.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:So basically collapse everything, do as he pleases, fashion everything in his liking? Essentially, that's the attempt. https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/120-the-impoundment-crisis-of-2025 This one's essentially A Big One, done so clumsily even this supreme court won't go for it. OMB / Donnie's big bet with this memo is that Congress can say "you must spend this in accordance with the Impoundment Act of 1974" and the president can go "nah bro, that act is unconstitutional I ain't spending poo poo". There's an official legal mechanism for notifying Congress "hey, it's not a good idea to spend money here" and timeframes accordingly, but Donnie isn't using those, he's simply stopping everything. States and organizations everywhere run on federal grants and Donnie just hit the pause button on their money until he clears it. It's a monumental power grab, will probably be stopped quickly by the courts, but really is The Big One that actually matters.
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Stopping the money would absolutely be the best way of collapsing a government/country, yeah. And so suddenly too.... buckle up, folks. I guess the only good thing here is he won't have had time to purge the military and staff it with his loyalists yet.
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That Works posted:I kind of figured they were gonna do what they said they were gonna do. This is why the term 'sanewashing' drives me berserk. This is exactly what they said they were going to do, and the media insisted no, he wouldn't really do it. But here we are, and he's doing it, and he told all the world he was going to do it beforehand.
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That Works posted:I kind of figured they were gonna do what they said they were gonna do. No poo poo. When someone, and especially a fascist, promises to hurt someone, believe them, because they really, really mean it.
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And for what it's worth, Unitary Executive Theory isn't a part of this:quote:For as much as this Court has embraced the “unitary executive” theory of executive power, impoundment has never been a central feature of that school of thought—as reflected in, among lots of other places, the OLC opinion referenced above. It’s one thing to believe that the President must have unitary control of the executive branch; it’s quite another to believe that such control extends to the right to refuse to spend any and all money Congress appropriates. (One can see at least some view of the significance and breadth of Congress’s appropriations power in last term’s ruling in the CFPB funding case—which Justice Thomas wrote, and from which only Justices Alito and Gorsuch dissented.) Donnie/OMB/Vought basically want every single tiny piece of federal funding, not given directly to individuals, cleared by a political appointee first. That's basically making that appointee Congress, which isn't going go fly, but will gently caress lots of poo poo up until it's halted by a judge somewhere.
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Seekhay posted:You at the green dot or one of the others? We’ve been pouring a ridiculous amount of investment into our AI and GenAI practices (yes they’re separate because lol) Green dot, but in the GPS side instead of corporate. Which is another source of pucker factor re contracts and the like.
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I hate to even think this but if I was going to seize power this is exactly what I'd do - hit everything with a big hammer, while everyone is trying to react to that put my people in place with military backing before anyone knew what was happening.
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citybeatnik posted:Green dot, but in the GPS side instead of corporate. Which is another source of pucker factor re contracts and the like. While I’m commercial, I’ve been working on an RFQ response for a GPS effort at FEMA. Last Friday sure was a fun day of calls 
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:I hate to even think this but if I was going to seize power this is exactly what I'd do - hit everything with a big hammer, while everyone is trying to react to that put my people in place with military backing before anyone knew what was happening. Nah, go easy on this kind of thinking because that's kinda how Donnie wants you to think. An example is the dumbshit EO on water to Los Angeles. He yammered that the military has "just entered California on emergency powers" and "turned the water on". When the EO is only about releasing federal water into mid-california for farms, not down to LA. Lots and lots and lots of this poo poo is using the big hammer to make future poo poo easier for themselves, not the whole military takeover kind of thing. They're putting a pair of 8s on the poker table, then flipping over the table, smashing it with said hammer, eating the chips, and making GBS threads all over the floor, and declaring I WIN. Once the HAZMAT team comes back in, the poker table gets bolted to the floor, and bets are all done electronically, they only had a pair of 8s. facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Jan 28, 2025 |
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Seekhay posted:While I’m commercial, I’ve been working on an RFQ response for a GPS effort at FEMA. Last Friday sure was a fun day of calls Fuuuuuck that poo poo. I'm happy in my little BTI bubble doing FOIA work but that's gonna get real soul sucking real quick.
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facialimpediment posted:Nah, go easy on this kind of thinking because that's kinda how Donnie wants you to think. An example is the dumbshit EO on water to Los Angeles. He yammered that the military has "just entered California on emergency powers" and "turned the water on". When the EO is only about releasing federal water into mid-california for farms, not down to LA. It almost feels like he's doing all this nonsense cost cutting to take his poker winnings and buy Greenland as, in his mind, it's a sensible business strategy.
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CBJSprague24 posted:It almost feels like he's doing all this nonsense cost cutting to take his poker winnings and buy Greenland as, in his mind, it's a sensible business strategy. Trump isn't personally doing this. The project 2025 people are doing this. Trump is busing yelling at Colombia and Denmark to actually care about the minutia of this poo poo. The goal of project 2025 is to effective dismantle the federal government and stop all federal poverty assistance. The reasons range from racism to greed, but the cost cutting fucks poor people, gives more money to the wealthy via tax cuts, and gives more money to wealthy people by completely deregulating business. That's the goal and intent here. Trump is letting them do this because it means more money for him and gives him time to go on his vendetta campaign. He's also golfing and getting in a lot of tv watching.
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Terrifying Effigies posted:They're just running through the ICU pulling electrical plugs out of the wall at this point. Literally. I know we’re all upset about government jobs and so on but the freeze in everything also means PEPFAR is on hold and a bunch of HIV medications are sitting on shelves with USAID banned from distributing them. AIDS patients are literally going to die because some dumbass didn’t spend enough time at the range.
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Nick Soapdish posted:I just read the readout from new SecDef and he mentioned Iron Dome for America? Are we worried about Quebec or Mexico launching rockets onto our crossborder cities? Hey so going back to this after reading the EO - it’s actually about hypersonic weapons defense, not rusty mortars, and implies a violation of the 1967 Outer Space Treaty by calling for the development of space-based interceptors for boost-phase missiles (I.e., missiles in early launch right off or shortly after leaving the launcher) Also think for two seconds about what having this kind of weapon would also let you target Fallom fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Jan 28, 2025 |
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Tiny Timbs posted:Hey so going back to this after reading the EO - it’s actually about hypersonic weapons defense, not rusty mortars, and implies a violation of the 1967 Outer Space Treaty by calling for the development of space-based interceptors for boost-phase missiles (I.e., missiles in early launch right off or shortly after leaving the launcher) Space based conventional weapons aren’t banned by the treaty.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Trump isn't personally doing this. The project 2025 people are doing this. Trump is busing yelling at Colombia and Denmark to actually care about the minutia of this poo poo. Yeah, this needs to be looked at through a lens of "how can the wealthy become even more wealthy?" It's all about money and an intentional crash of the economy funnels even more money to them. Who cares about the damage done to regular people when you can double your wealth. Worst case scenario your guys get voted out of the majority for a maximum of 8 years if things are bad enough. And you control the courts so the other party couldn't do poo poo anyway even if they had the will to do so. They're going to make a lot of money here.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Literally. I know we’re all upset about government jobs and so on but the freeze in everything also means PEPFAR is on hold and a bunch of HIV medications are sitting on shelves with USAID banned from distributing them. AIDS patients are literally going to die because some dumbass didn’t spend enough time at the range. Christ
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stealie72 posted:I work in grants with a lot of federally funded orgs, and man are things poo poo this morning. Yeah I'm really sorry for all of y'all that have to deal with this bullshit, either via professional annoyance or outright career detonation. May or may not get to my [REDACTED] level, but some good-rear end posts on this page imo about all this poo poo. If I recall correctly, it took under a week for the birthright citizenship EO to get halted by a district court and I'd expect the same on this grant power grab. I'm not sure if lawsuits are ready, but so much money is on the table here, even in red states, that I expect lawsuits to start dropping as soon as tomorrow when the EO takes effect from a whole lot of directions. Grant receivers have a case, Democrats in Congress have a case and so on, then this poo poo slows way down. PEPFAR may be hosed though. They're already removing computer access and poo poo, a lot like the EO making feds go no-contact with the World Health Organization. Even with PEPFAR funded for a year. Edit: first loving thing Schumer's done right - talking to Tish James and having NY State sue over the OMB bullshit immediately facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Jan 28, 2025 |
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stealie72 posted:I shouldn't be amazed at how many people didn't, but I am. seems that the last few years' choruses of "Trump is going to jail", "He's only running to avoid jail", "Let's laugh at this dumb man and his dumb followers" that permeated the online space and was championed by our brave resistance leaders (late night talk show hosts) didn't reach the voters who needed to hear it (economic anxiety havers)
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maffew buildings posted:seems that the last few years' choruses of "Trump is going to jail", "He's only running to avoid jail", "Let's laugh at this dumb man and his dumb followers" that permeated the online space and was championed by our brave resistance leaders (late night talk show hosts) didn't reach the voters who needed to hear it (economic anxiety havers)
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maffew buildings posted:seems that the last few years' choruses of "Trump is going to jail", "He's only running to avoid jail", "Let's laugh at this dumb man and his dumb followers" that permeated the online space and was championed by our brave resistance leaders (late night talk show hosts) didn't reach the voters who needed to hear it (economic anxiety havers) Well the "economic anxiety havers" don't watch liberal night show hosts. They prefer the erudition of someone like Joe Rogan, who "says it like it is" and has "common sense". The time for Democrats to figure out how to connect with these people was like 30 years ago. I'm not even sure it's possible anymore. Hating Democrats, liberals, and leftists is an integral part of their culture now. It identifies them as part of the ingroup.
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