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Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation

Hal Incandenza posted:

Same, I think

Interesting. I took no action last night, so whatever you got wasn't from me. Was there a triple swaparoo?

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Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face

CubicalSucrose posted:

I think Myc's flip means that either:
- HCT is non-scum
- HCT is scum and at least one probably-interesting 3P role exists.

I don't follow this logic?

Did you get the hammerfish at end of last day? It was a bit confusing with Hal adding a tenth vote.

shwinnebego
Jul 11, 2002


Tsietisin what happened to you last night if anything

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation

DreamingofRoses posted:

So that was three town elims in the first 24 hours. Can we cool it on the vigs?

Also this, and yuming needs to claim night actions asap. Iggy needs to holster. And answer some questions.

Zoya
Jun 12, 2023

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DreamingofRoses posted:

So that was three town elims in the first 24 hours. Can we cool it on the vigs?

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

Interesting. I took no action last night, so whatever you got wasn't from me. Was there a triple swaparoo?

It’s possible I’m misinterpreting what happened

I also have strong reason to believe someone got a result that is not true

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face
Also, ##vote shwin

Shwin is normally pretty good at reading the sincerity of end-of-day protestations of innocence. After this post

mollyohreally posted:

I’m town and I wanna use my fun ability don’t vote me out thanks

I was somewhat confident Molly would flip town, but Shwin doubled down on scum reading her

shwinnebego posted:

spork's logic is bad but it's probably town

i'm increasingly confident that molly is scum tho

and then was quiet through the attempted swerve and execution.

Although, some of this argument was predicated on the assumption that spork was his scumbud, so I'll have to think about it more

DreamingofRoses
Jun 27, 2013
Nap Ghost
Zoya do you have a vig power too?

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Maugrim posted:

I don't follow this logic?

Did you get the hammerfish at end of last day? It was a bit confusing with Hal adding a tenth vote.

I did not get a hammer fish so I think cube should have

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

CubicalSucrose posted:

I think Myc's flip means that either:
- HCT is non-scum
- HCT is scum and at least one probably-interesting 3P role exists.
I ate mycelia

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation

Hal Incandenza posted:

It’s possible I’m misinterpreting what happened

I also have strong reason to believe someone got a result that is not true

I didn't expect to receive any result at all, but what I received looks like someone's result. It's possible I was befuddled.

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation

yuming posted:

I ate mycelia

Why?

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
1. I thought he was plausibly scum. (Bzzt wrong.)
2. Tsi gave an excuse not to be around so I didn’t wanna target him.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
##vote Zoya

Scummy “PR.”

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

I didn't expect to receive any result at all, but what I received looks like someone's result. It's possible I was befuddled.

Rereading my results again I think I know what happened and I think it might be cleared up once everyone posts

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

yuming posted:

1. I thought he was plausibly scum. (Bzzt wrong.)
2. Tsi gave an excuse not to be around so I didn’t wanna target him.
3. There was discussion surrounding him so now we know D1 was smooth sailing for scum.

Zoyas body of work fits well with that scum POV, I think.

Zoya
Jun 12, 2023

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DreamingofRoses posted:

Zoya do you have a vig power too?

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

yuming posted:

I ate mycelia

Why didn’t you target tsi, who had fewest posts, as per your agreement with iggy

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

fool of sound posted:

Why didn’t you target tsi, who had fewest posts, as per your agreement with iggy
Because he said he was afk. I thought about targeting Moritz but I thought mycelia was a better choice v:shobon:v

shwinnebego
Jul 11, 2002


yuming posted:

1. I thought he was plausibly scum. (Bzzt wrong.)
2. Tsi gave an excuse not to be around so I didn’t wanna target him.

I thought you couldn’t eat town

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation

shwinnebego posted:

I thought you couldn’t eat town

The claim was the only way around, only eats town.

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation
other*

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

The claim was the only way around, only eats town.
I non lethally killed him. I’m sorry myc “mike” celia.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

:goofy:

You're gonna have to guide me through the logic on that one, chief.

Maugrim posted:

I don't follow this logic?

Did you get the hammerfish at end of last day? It was a bit confusing with Hal adding a tenth vote.

If HCT is scum, then scum already know who non-scum are. There's not really much of a reason to tell scum "hey, player X is definitely town."

So it seems like HCT is probably not scum.

However, there could be a reason to tell scum "hey, player X is definitely town" and that's if there's some bullshit 3P shenanigans afoot. Consider the uhh...JS game with the triple survivor faction or whatever.

Or apparently whatever Yuming is.

I'm leaning more toward HCT being non-scum, since:

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

Zero interest in voting mycelia. Guys, don't burrito this now.

But it was close to deadline so that's not like, a super strong signal I guess. And I can see scumHCT pulling that move for towncred.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

I mean like, Yuming could also be scum but I don't think I've seen scum just claim a NK lately. And there was the whole exchange yesterday.

Zoya
Jun 12, 2023

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Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face

CubicalSucrose posted:

If HCT is scum, then scum already know who non-scum are. There's not really much of a reason to tell scum "hey, player X is definitely town."

So it seems like HCT is probably not scum.

However, there could be a reason to tell scum "hey, player X is definitely town" and that's if there's some bullshit 3P shenanigans afoot. Consider the uhh...JS game with the triple survivor faction or whatever.

Or apparently whatever Yuming is.

I'm leaning more toward HCT being non-scum, since:

But it was close to deadline so that's not like, a super strong signal I guess. And I can see scumHCT pulling that move for towncred.

I guess I see your logic but I assumed these roles were written before the game started recruiting let alone before roles were handed out to players ("if HCT is in the game...") so the giving of the info would have no bearing on whether crab rolled scum or town.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
The case writes itself.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
*insert awesome photoshop of leopard seal me looking menacing*

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Maugrim posted:

I guess I see your logic but I assumed these roles were written before the game started recruiting let alone before roles were handed out to players ("if HCT is in the game...") so the giving of the info would have no bearing on whether crab rolled scum or town.

Oh. Hmm. I guess that fits with saladscooper not being in the game. Hmm...

All right, Maugrim and Zoya have foiled all my efforts today.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

Also this, and yuming needs to claim night actions asap. Iggy needs to holster. And answer some questions.

I have been hoist by my own petard by assuming I would be able to use multiple day actions so long as I have multiple fish. Unfortunately, I can only use one day action a day because wologar has sold out to Big Moderation and thus I have to hit somebody twice to kill them. I'm fine holstering my not-really-a-dayvig while this is sorted out and you can ask away.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

yuming posted:

1. I thought he was plausibly scum. (Bzzt wrong.)
2. Tsi gave an excuse not to be around so I didn’t wanna target him.

Part of the purpose of the deal was to see if your word meant anything or not. This points in the direction of it meaning absolutely nothing and I'm highly considering slapping you with a trout for it.

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation

Ignatius M. Meen posted:

I have been hoist by my own petard by assuming I would be able to use multiple day actions so long as I have multiple fish. Unfortunately, I can only use one day action a day because wologar has sold out to Big Moderation and thus I have to hit somebody twice to kill them. I'm fine holstering my not-really-a-dayvig while this is sorted out and you can ask away.

I'll just come out with it: Why was mycelia killed? My thought was that scum knew it would be difficult to vote him out, because I would have revealed that I knew he was town. So how would they know that? Well, you see what I'm getting at here? That said I'm less now suspicious since yuming claimed the kill. Because there was also a second kill, so unless scum literally has a free bonus vig I don't think that's why.

I'm still wary of yuming though. What do you think of the fact that she didn't follow your plan?

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation
Anyway, speaking of fish, I have an offer today. I can give someone a boon! I can only give out one today though, and you won't receive it until end of day, but I promise it's real nice to have. I realize I gotta prove that, but it's pretty expensive for me to hand out, so I need some fish to do it. Two fish, to be precise. If someone is willing to shake flippers on that I'll gladly give it to you. No rush though, we've got until end of day.

DreamingofRoses
Jun 27, 2013
Nap Ghost

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

Anyway, speaking of fish, I have an offer today. I can give someone a boon! I can only give out one today though, and you won't receive it until end of day, but I promise it's real nice to have. I realize I gotta prove that, but it's pretty expensive for me to hand out, so I need some fish to do it. Two fish, to be precise. If someone is willing to shake flippers on that I'll gladly give it to you. No rush though, we've got until end of day.

Did you steal my fish last night?

DreamingofRoses
Jun 27, 2013
Nap Ghost
Also, I'm still in the camp of ##vote Ignatius M. Meen

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation

DreamingofRoses posted:

Did you steal my fish last night?

No, I took no action last night. I can't steal fish. Other than the graverob action everyone has access to.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

I'll just come out with it: Why was mycelia killed? My thought was that scum knew it would be difficult to vote him out, because I would have revealed that I knew he was town. So how would they know that? Well, you see what I'm getting at here? That said I'm less now suspicious since yuming claimed the kill. Because there was also a second kill, so unless scum literally has a free bonus vig I don't think that's why.

I'm still wary of yuming though. What do you think of the fact that she didn't follow your plan?

You do realize you're essentially asking me to prove I didn't paste (I'm assuming) your message to me in scumchat, right? How the gently caress do you expect me to do that again in good faith, while understanding that if I'm town I can't really prove a negative and if I'm scum I'm gonna lie my rear end off?

If you're asking in good faith how you could tell if I were scum or not based on the play so far, frankly the best option from my perspective for a scum play would've been to pretend I never got the message and try to kill you overnight. Most comment you'd get after that is "dang, must've told the wrong person he was informed" if anything. Doesn't try to guess who the mystery confirmed townie is, doesn't reveal I'm the recipient, goes straight with the info that's actually present, guaranteed to whittle away at town's ability to confirm itself. I'll freely admit I have no goddamned idea if a scumteam with your message would guess it was you instead of guessing it wrong and maybe killing mycelia, and as such I don't expect this to have a whole hell of a lot of persuasive power, but that's the best I can offer.

Re: yuming, I'd vote her for it because she explicitly claimed first that she wouldn't use it at all and only now is using it however she feels like instead of having any interest in at least proving her word means anything.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

mollyohreally posted:

vote spork myc or cube tomorrow dorks

Ooof, Molly going 0/3 on the way out. Rough one.

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Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation

Ignatius M. Meen posted:

You do realize you're essentially asking me to prove I didn't paste (I'm assuming) your message to me in scumchat, right? How the gently caress do you expect me to do that again in good faith, while understanding that if I'm town I can't really prove a negative and if I'm scum I'm gonna lie my rear end off?

Not expecting you to prove it. But I'm happy with this answer nonetheless. Like I said, after yuming claimed it my suspicion was lessened anyway. Thanks.

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