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yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance
Tsi Moritz who is scum :iiam:

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Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation

shwinnebego posted:

yuming's gambit is bad if town, and so bad that i don't see it as a scum gambit. if yuming IS scum, i reckon she's scum with a more galaxy-brained player who suggested it

... I feel like the first half of that post said it can't be a scum gambit and the second half says it could be, with a sufficiently galaxy-brained scum mate. Why is that not on the table then?

Personally I'm starting to feel keeping yuming around is a risk. I think fos is right that the "cop that kills" claim just is at best an SK with extra steps, and I said as much D1 too. Like, what are we thinking the optimal use of this alleged ability is? Yuming kills someone every day, and then we have to trust her the one day she says that a random person is scum because they didn't die? I don't like any part of this, especially with Iggy as the far townier vig role around. ##vote yuming

shwinnebego
Jul 11, 2002


ok lets kill yuming ##vote yuming

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Jun 12, 2023

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Zoya posted:

##vote cube
##vote cube
##vote cube
##vote cube
##vote cube

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Jun 12, 2023

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votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop
Votecount for Day 2

⚪⚪⚪⚪🟢🟢🟢🟢 yuming (4): Zoya, Ignatius M. Meen, Zoya, fool of sound, Hyper Crab Tank, shwinnebego
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪🟢🟢 DreamingofRoses (2): Disco Anne, yuming
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪🟢🟢 CubicalSucrose (2): Zoya, Zoya, Zoya, Zoya, Zoya, Zoya, Zoya, Zoya, Zoya, Zoya, Zoya, Zoya, Zoya, Zoya, Zoya, DreamingofRoses, shwinnebego, shwinnebego
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪🟢 shwinnebego (1): CubicalSucrose, Maugrim, CubicalSucrose
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪🟢 fool of sound (1): CubicalSucrose
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪ Zoya (0): yuming, yuming
⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪⚪ Ignatius M. Meen (0): DreamingofRoses, DreamingofRoses


Not voting: Hal Incandenza, Rhymes With Clue, Tired Moritz, Tsietisin

With 14 alive, it's 8 votes to execute. The current deadline is February 11th, 2025 at 8 p.m. UTC -- that's in about 23 hours, 43 minutes.

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

shwinnebego posted:

ok lets kill yuming ##vote yuming
Rude!

I am just threatening to kill a lurker today. Will I do it? :iiam:

DreamingofRoses
Jun 27, 2013
Nap Ghost

yuming posted:

Rude!

I am just threatening to kill a lurker today. Will I do it? :iiam:

Once again, we are down 3 town on day 2. Can we cool it on the vigs.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

yuming, who would you shoot of the lurkers remaining? Who would you shoot of the not-lurkers remaining?

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Ignatius M. Meen posted:

Can be harmful and helpful is one thing, but not talking about the ideas behind actions is another, especially given HCT's whole informed thing. Bare minimum, I'd like to know if that player would hit HCT with that again and why. It's sketchy that they're not gonna talk about it IMO and I would probably ask them directly if they were ever going to say anything outside extenuating circumstances. Are there any extenuating circumstances you're aware of here?

Yeah, so I got (what I assume to be) RWC's results, and they said their befuddle was a success. It also said "spork visited you" in those results, so presumably from sporks flip RWC would be loud going forward if they continue to do anything, so my guess is that RWC will not be able to befuddle any more, at least without being obvious.

So, thinking about it more, RWC not saying anything about befuddling last night and not claiming to be loudified means she is almost certainly scum.

There is always a chance I was redirected, but there are some other parts of my role that I will not reveal yet that make me think that is a bit less likely.

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation

Hal Incandenza posted:

Yeah, so I got (what I assume to be) RWC's results, and they said their befuddle was a success. It also said "spork visited you" in those results, so presumably from sporks flip RWC would be loud going forward if they continue to do anything, so my guess is that RWC will not be able to befuddle any more, at least without being obvious.

So, thinking about it more, RWC not saying anything about befuddling last night and not claiming to be loudified means she is almost certainly scum.

There is always a chance I was redirected, but there are some other parts of my role that I will not reveal yet that make me think that is a bit less likely.

Absolutely willing to vote RWC for this if no explanation can be given, even over yuming. Hal, do the letters R. C. mean anything to you?

shwinnebego
Jul 11, 2002


Hal Incandenza posted:

Yeah, so I got (what I assume to be) RWC's results, and they said their befuddle was a success. It also said "spork visited you" in those results, so presumably from sporks flip RWC would be loud going forward if they continue to do anything, so my guess is that RWC will not be able to befuddle any more, at least without being obvious.

So, thinking about it more, RWC not saying anything about befuddling last night and not claiming to be loudified means she is almost certainly scum.

There is always a chance I was redirected, but there are some other parts of my role that I will not reveal yet that make me think that is a bit less likely.

oh ok yeah if RWC befuddled you and didn't say anything about it until later, that sounds like a straightforwardly scum power

if this is correct then we should kill rwc ##vote rwc

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

Hal Incandenza posted:

Yeah, so I got (what I assume to be) RWC's results, and they said their befuddle was a success. It also said "spork visited you" in those results, so presumably from sporks flip RWC would be loud going forward if they continue to do anything, so my guess is that RWC will not be able to befuddle any more, at least without being obvious.

So, thinking about it more, RWC not saying anything about befuddling last night and not claiming to be loudified means she is almost certainly scum.

There is always a chance I was redirected, but there are some other parts of my role that I will not reveal yet that make me think that is a bit less likely.

Sounds hella damning to me if she doesn't respond. ##vote Rhymes

yuming
Feb 26, 2008

dance dance dance

Ignatius M. Meen posted:

Sounds hella damning to me if she doesn't respond. ##vote Rhymes

##vote RWC

Honestly I will probably not take a shot today.

I am suspicious of Moritz but has tsi returned to the game?

I honestly think the scum profile is NOT to vote me here so I am most suspicious of the sideline crew.

I can elaborate more later tonight (which was my plan anyways thinking I may eat the vote.)

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation

Hal Incandenza posted:

presumably from sporks flip RWC would be loud going forward if they continue to do anything, so my guess is that RWC will not be able to befuddle any more, at least without being obvious.

Oh, adding to this though, I didn't see anything about who visited me in my results. So if Spork spotted RWC the befuddle trumps the loudness, which I suppose makes sense, since befuddle typically replaces the _entire_ night result.

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation

Maugrim posted:

Well, if nobody else expresses an interest I can take it.

Let me know if you want to lock in the trade. Remember though, you won't receive the boon until the day ends.

Hal Incandenza
Feb 12, 2004

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

Absolutely willing to vote RWC for this if no explanation can be given, even over yuming. Hal, do the letters R. C. mean anything to you?

No, R. C. doesn't mean anything to me

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation
Ok. I'm keeping the details of the precise way I was befuddled (if that was indeed it) close to my chest for now in case it trips someone up, but I thought you might.

CubicalSucrose
Jan 1, 2013

Phantom my Opera and call me South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut

Good enough for me, ##unvote

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face
Yeah it would be nice to hear from RWC but I'm not sure what she could say that would make her not the vote today.

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

Let me know if you want to lock in the trade. Remember though, you won't receive the boon until the day ends.

Sure, let's lock it in, do I have to give you two fish for this? Or just one?

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation

Maugrim posted:

Sure, let's lock it in, do I have to give you two fish for this? Or just one?

Two fish. I'll pre-emptively ##shake flippers and you can do the same if you want the boon.

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face
##shake flippers take it, take it all. But per the OP, if this boon is a bust, you will feel all the terrible wrath I can visit upon you. which isn't much as I am very smol.

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Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
beautiful seals

I dont like the yuming votes. they did nothing that we didnt expect them to do anyway, they clearly cant be scum since we got two kills. i think people voting there are shooked scum that cant just not lurk to win.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
i actually kinda agree with zoya that the cube post from her seal pic is super stinky. im looking at hal for trying to say a befuddler could be possibly town because when and how

wologar
Feb 11, 2014

Hyper Crab Tank posted:

Two fish. I'll pre-emptively ##shake flippers and you can do the same if you want the boon.

Maugrim posted:

##shake flippers take it, take it all. But per the OP, if this boon is a bust, you will feel all the terrible wrath I can visit upon you. which isn't much as I am very smol.

Hyper Crab Tank and Maugrim slap their bellies in unison and shake triumphant flippers. The poise! The gallantry!

A contract is sealed.

shwinnebego
Jul 11, 2002


Tired Moritz posted:

beautiful seals

I dont like the yuming votes. they did nothing that we didnt expect them to do anyway, they clearly cant be scum since we got two kills. i think people voting there are shooked scum that cant just not lurk to win.

hmmm

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

I could dunk Cube, but not more than I'd dunk Tsi for being absent from the game. Hal's initial weak defense of Rhymes would feel worse if I didn't have the context of him being a result thief in a different game where that wasn't a scum role. As it is, though, I feel better about him now than I did before the day opened.

shwinnebego
Jul 11, 2002


yeah i don't think yuming is the right elim today

she might be an SK, it's true, but i'd rather find and eliminate scum today. Rhymes seems like a mechanically solid bet, but let's see how she shakes out postingwise too

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

Zoya, what do you think about Rhymes and Hal in light of Hal's claims?

shwinnebego
Jul 11, 2002


Rhymes With Clue posted:

Would vote

Dreaming of Roses
Zoya
schwinn

Dreaming of Roses: low posts, no content that points to her being town
Zoya: okay well seems kinda scummy at this point content-wise, but otoh I can see Cube being scum
shwinn: I gotta look back but it seems to me that he went into a posting frenzy about the time it was being discussed to zap trhe lowest poster.

This is literally the only post RWC has made all game that actually comments at all on who might be scum

Everything else is jokes, fluffy approvals of Iggy's gaming things out, and some very nice drawings of seals.

Even without Hal's mechanical call-out, Rhymes would be a great vote today

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation

shwinnebego posted:

This is literally the only post RWC has made all game that actually comments at all on who might be scum

Everything else is jokes, fluffy approvals of Iggy's gaming things out, and some very nice drawings of seals.

Even without Hal's mechanical call-out, Rhymes would be a great vote today

I agree with this. RWC was feeling light already and if Hal's intel is true then that is by far my preferred vote today. We have almost a full day to go though so let's see what RWC has to say.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
if hal is right then we should absolutely kill rwc

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Ignatius M. Meen posted:

I could dunk Cube, but not more than I'd dunk Tsi for being absent from the game.

Did you not claim lurker day vig? Day vig the lurker.

shwinnebego
Jul 11, 2002


moritz, do you have any scum reads of your own besides just agreeing with zoya about cube

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Disco Anne
Apr 1, 2010

Assume you're going to survive.
I could easily consider cube tomorrow, but I'm trying to see the argument about how he's scummier than what seems to be a caught befuddler and entirely failing. Wouldn't mind some posts from both of 'em, as usual.

Ignatius M. Meen posted:

Also big :same: here, I do remember result thieves exist that can be town, but that'd be one of the extenuating circumstances you'd have to claim knowledge of for me to think this is less sketchy.

Has this happened before? I agree that I'd probably need a reference to take the idea seriously.

Tired Moritz posted:

beautiful seals

I dont like the yuming votes. they did nothing that we didnt expect them to do anyway, they clearly cant be scum since we got two kills. i think people voting there are shooked scum that cant just not lurk to win.

Yeah, that's where I am on those. Unless we lose two more town tonight, in which case she gotta go.

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