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Are you sure you're not a polar bear SK or something yuming
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mollyohreally posted:lyrics, love Aww, I wanted a weird conspiracy. This is fine too, I guess 
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Feb 7, 2025 01:59
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Fish are pretty good, but probably not my favourite aquatic-based treat.
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Feb 7, 2025 02:00
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yuming posted:I don’t know I’m trying to figure out what the purpose of my role is because it doesn’t sound very useful unless someone wants to be eaten. ...yknow, the OP doesn't explicitly *say* there's no bastard mechanics, at least that I can see. That sounds Jester-adjacent to me.
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Feb 7, 2025 02:03
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yuming posted:It only works on seals. Okay. In that case, you're a tough to play cop variation; an inversion of the cool and mostly legendary brutal cop that kills anyone who is scum-aligned while leaving town-aligned players alone. I would have held that to my chest and been at peace with either being extra cleanup duty on scummy reads or the cool guy who would if needed salute the thread as he went down to prove his weird cop claim and admission of guilt in however many other murders it took to get there.
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Feb 7, 2025 02:05
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Hi friends how are things going in here
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Feb 7, 2025 02:07
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:Okay. In that case, you're a tough to play cop variation; an inversion of the cool and mostly legendary brutal cop that kills anyone who is scum-aligned while leaving town-aligned players alone. I would have held that to my chest and been at peace with either being extra cleanup duty on scummy reads or the cool guy who would if needed salute the thread as he went down to prove his weird cop claim and admission of guilt in however many other murders it took to get there. Or this, I guess. Definitely a weird d1 claim either way.
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Feb 7, 2025 02:08
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Good morning 🌞
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Feb 7, 2025 02:11
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fool of sound posted:Are you sure you're not a polar bear SK or something yuming This is possible but the idea I proposed above was in my head already as what I'd get out of it if I had it. I'm not a fan of yuming not seeing it as an inverted brutal cop because I know she's been around long enough to see some form of the way more OP original version, but as of yet that by itself isn't a smoking gun that she's lying.
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Feb 7, 2025 02:11
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Tired Moritz posted:Good morning 🌞 G'night! 
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Feb 7, 2025 02:16
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mycelia posted:Or this, I guess. Definitely a weird d1 claim either way. It's very weird. This is a wologar game, though, and even that aside she's now got a shelf life that will rapidly expire if her target choices are bad enough.
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Feb 7, 2025 02:17
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yuming posted:They are removed from the game. 
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Feb 7, 2025 02:26
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##unvote on the condition that yuming keeps herself accountable by not obscuring her ideas day-to-day. You don't have to declare a target beforehand, but any bodies you dump overnight oughta make some kind of sense or else.
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Feb 7, 2025 02:26
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You think yuming is a cop, who will kill every town person she scans, and only fail on 3P or scum, and you want her to use that ability? The opportunity cost is so high for that. It's not worth it. Especially since if she's wrong town is down a player immediately, and if she's right we still have to vote the person out. Yuming is a threat, though probably not scum. But Iggy being okay with that is and advising she keep using the ability is scummy. ##vote Iggy
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Feb 7, 2025 02:34
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SporkChan posted:You think yuming is a cop, who will kill every town person she scans, and only fail on 3P or scum, and you want her to use that ability? Hence why I claimed it 
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Feb 7, 2025 02:46
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SporkChan posted:You think yuming is a cop, who will kill every town person she scans, and only fail on 3P or scum, and you want her to use that ability? If she doesn't trust herself with the power then she can also stay home and that will be perfectly reasonable, just like it'd be perfectly reasonable for a standard vig to stay home because they didn't believe in their aim being any good. This is still, however, a game that is about social deduction, and as such I strongly believe that there is no game without reads, and because of that any talk about throwing away reads or acting on them comes off generally scummy. Being capable of killing people in a more limited fashion myself, and recalling that this is from the guy who ran Time to Get Vig, and understanding that I've got a nice glass house of my own wrt vig correctness, I'm not gonna throw "zomg, unaccountable vig" stones at her. Even more than that, though, who the hell are you and what have you done with the guy who blew up wologar after he persuaded town to yeet scum because the shiny button still had to be pressed?
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Feb 7, 2025 02:49
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:Even more than that, though, who the hell are you and what have you done with the guy who blew up wologar after he persuaded town to yeet scum because the shiny button still had to be pressed? I was the guy who still thought Wologar had a chance to be scum when I blew him up! But again, if yuming finds scum that means that nothing happens!
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Feb 7, 2025 02:53
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The more I think about it the more that post stinks. A standard vig isn't that much less dangerous than yuming's claim. It has the downside of not immediately killing scum, but that doesn't do anything about the other half of the coin where the town vig in question is just plain grievously wrong on their reads or doesn't care about them and is thus just as capable of irresponsibly loving over town as yuming is right now.
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SporkChan posted:I was the guy who still thought Wologar had a chance to be scum when I blew him up! No? She would come to the thread and say "Hey I targeted that person overnight and couldn't eat them" and then they get voted out easily. For all you or I know she might even have a string of catches in that way and then the game is over easy peasy.
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Feb 7, 2025 02:54
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SporkChan posted:I was the guy who still thought Wologar had a chance to be scum when I blew him up! Also yeah, that's just it, if I had yuming's power I'd be shooting in pretty much exactly the same way, people who had a chance to be scum! If I got it wrong, that sucks, but if I'm right I have a scum catch right in hand just like a normal cop would.
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Feb 7, 2025 02:57
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:Also yeah, that's just it, if I had yuming's power I'd be shooting in pretty much exactly the same way, people who had a chance to be scum! If I got it wrong, that sucks, but if I'm right I have a scum catch right in hand just like a normal cop would. A normal cop doesn't kill everyone they're wrong about.
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Feb 7, 2025 02:59
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It's absolutely not a nothingburger of a downside, but that's where being accountable for her reads comes into it and also the shelf life part. If she shoots bad enough, she gets justifiably booted. If she shoots well, town gets to boot scum easier. If she shoots reasonable but wrong targets, that means that town gets to advance its own guesswork and hopefully boot scum anyway!
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SporkChan posted:A normal cop doesn't kill everyone they're wrong about. A normal vig does, though, and they pay the price for shooting poorly even when they don't have a weird exception to who their vigs work on that make them able to play ersatz cop.
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There's also another factor to this, which is that if I were scum I'd want to remove her for a lot of the same reasons I'd want to remove a town vig in general. It'd be enhanced by the fact that if there's a night with only one kill and it's not her, there's always the chance that she comes into the thread with a smoking gun and then I or somebody else would go down in flames. The most it could be delayed would be one day and that's only enough time for her flip to vindicate her, and then whoever she claimed to target is a lame duck for the night who's probably not going to get anything off successfully before dying the next day. This game has been open for less than half a day. We have time to re-evaluate her if she lives long enough or shoots poorly enough to merit it.
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Feb 7, 2025 03:13
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If this were Zoya I could be tempted to believe she claimed this just to see if she could get away with it. I can't really see that with yuming, though, and even if she's out to surprise me this game, that shelf life isn't going away anytime soon unless everybody forgets about it. Which, sure, they could do that, but you won't and I won't and not even scum know for sure we won't live long enough to push people into booting her if she fucks it up enough.
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Feb 7, 2025 03:24
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I am glad Iggy is making good use of our new bbcode buttons
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Hal Incandenza posted:I am glad Iggy is making good use of our new bbcode buttons I'm actually making use of something that's predated those for a while, keyboard codes. Ctrl-B bolds, Ctrl-I italicizes, and there's more but I'd have to look at the BBcode link again to find them all.
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I'm not going to evolve into a phone Mafia player, I'm just not gonna, you can take my keyboard from me when I'm dead.
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Feb 7, 2025 03:55
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:I'm actually making use of something that's predated those for a while, keyboard codes. Ctrl-B bolds, Ctrl-I italicizes, and there's more but I'd have to look at the BBcode link again to find them all. Wo
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Feb 7, 2025 03:58
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yuming posted:They are removed from the game. Sounds like you are a cop by way of performiong kind of a witch test
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Hal Incandenza posted:I am glad Iggy is making good use of our new bbcode buttons Ignatius M. Meen posted:I'm actually making use of something that's predated those for a while, keyboard codes. Ctrl-B bolds, Ctrl-I italicizes, and there's more but I'd have to look at the BBcode link again to find them all. New...bbcode...buttons? Why do these seem not new at all to me?
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Rhymes With Clue posted:New...bbcode...buttons? Why do these seem not new at all to me? They were an experimental feature you could opt to turn on in the user control panel for a while. Now they're on for everyone by default.
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Feb 7, 2025 04:32
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The Awful app is pretty good tho
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Feb 7, 2025 04:41
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What eats seals? Orcas? Polar bears? Is yuming actually an orca?
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Feb 7, 2025 04:58
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DreamingofRoses posted:https://youtube.com/shorts/Ji8chQmXeXU?si=EV6Hys-QGWfjeo5D This still doesn't explain why mycelia is a sea lion
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Feb 7, 2025 05:03
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yuming, what kind of seal are you?
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Feb 7, 2025 06:05
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I’m a leopard seal.
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I won't lie, this kinda reminds me of JCS Mafia with the three millers and feels about as weird. I also remember how that ended in disappointment and egg on town's faces when all three millers turned out to be legit.
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I don't see why yuming shouldnt just openly say who they're visiting and hope for a tracker/watcher to verify
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yuming posted:I’m a leopard seal. The leopard seal, also referred to as the sea leopard, is the second largest species of seal in the Antarctic. Its only natural predator is the orca. It feeds on a wide range of prey including cephalopods, other pinnipeds, krill, fish, and birds, particularly penguins. I mean it checks out. This is a wol game so I fully expect five people to have vigs and none of them to get used.
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