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wins32767 posted:##vote Wolo What is your case. I don’t know if I followed the bitterness stuff
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Voodoofly posted:What is your case. I don’t know if I followed the bitterness stuff That was mostly a joke. I'm really uncomfortable at how he's not committing strongly. There's this: wologar posted:I'll let the jury decide. plus he's riding a Hal case from yesterday but not selling it. It's vibes mostly, but increasingly strong vibes. Wolo is very good as town and I'm not feeling that energy right now.
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Feb 7, 2025 03:05
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Voodoofly posted:His word is bond (are you too young for that phrase or was it on Carson as well?) HAH!! i get that joke
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Feb 7, 2025 03:24
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Voodoofly posted:If you don't play mafia with the assumption that everything revolves around you, then you and I don't play the same 2 of us really did survive, huh that's wild
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Feb 7, 2025 03:28
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Voodoofly posted:If you don't play mafia with the assumption that everything revolves around you, then you and I don't play the same 
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Feb 7, 2025 06:25
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wins32767 posted:That was mostly a joke. I'm really uncomfortable at how he's not committing strongly.
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Feb 7, 2025 06:26
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I just finished writing boring work stuff  It sure has been a week. I think Hal’s defense is a weak +town for me. His vote looks bad on paper but I’m hoping it’s just a fly trap for scum looking for an easy case: this makes wolo look worse and is part of the ~vibes~ read I just cited. Voodoo wins also seem town. Still think Anne is scummy. Oh, Keane could be scum 
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Feb 7, 2025 06:30
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wins32767 posted:That was mostly a joke. I'm really uncomfortable at how he's not committing strongly. This is a weird post. I'd have thought it to be a "pocket Wolo" but wins is voting there.
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Feb 7, 2025 08:11
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Massclaim might actually work. Like yeah the numbers mean it's not a guarantee, but it seems really tough to mod a game where any number of players between (x and y) can play, and it's a semi-open, AND a massclaim doesn't break any of those players counts. Bigger than "it probably won't work" (which I think I disagree with) is "it probably won't be as fun."
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Feb 7, 2025 08:14
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I think I'd be voting Schwein right now if Soru were alive.
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Feb 7, 2025 08:15
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##vote Disco Anne Feels right
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Feb 7, 2025 08:16
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CubicalSucrose posted:I think I'd be voting Schwein right now if Soru were alive. ??? Why would soru being dead change this at all?
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Feb 7, 2025 09:30
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Voodoofly posted:??? Are Schwein and Soru not both returning players after long absences?
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Feb 7, 2025 10:10
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CubicalSucrose posted:Are Schwein and Soru not both returning players after long absences? Yes, now then: Voodoofly posted:???
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Feb 7, 2025 14:37
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I was trying to puzzle that out too, but I guess he's saying he doesn't want both the returning players gone so soon?
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Feb 7, 2025 14:56
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CubicalSucrose posted:Are Schwein and Soru not both returning players after long absences? yeah but if you think i'm scum, make your case and vote for me. i'm having fun and will play more games after this.
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Feb 7, 2025 14:57
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yuming posted:I just finished writing boring work stuff I'd like to say I had a clever plan to trap scum with my shwinn vote, and maybe it did end up working out that way. Wasn't my intention. I do think Wolo being so on me is weird, I think of him as someone that's decent as reading me as scum so when he gets tunneled on me when I'm town it definitely feels fake
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Feb 7, 2025 14:58
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schwein11 posted:yeah but if you think i'm scum, make your case and vote for me. i'm having fun and will play more games after this. Yeah I think the "don't want to vote out returning people" is just a D1 thing like not voting for new players I do hope you stick around even if I am irked with you at the moment
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Feb 7, 2025 14:59
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CubicalSucrose posted:Massclaim might actually work. Like yeah the numbers mean it's not a guarantee, but it seems really tough to mod a game where any number of players between (x and y) can play, and it's a semi-open, AND a massclaim doesn't break any of those players counts. no. there are 11 players alive. there are 8 unrevealed mutants left, and 13 revealed mutants left, each with both a town and scum option. too much room for scum to fakeclaim, and would only give information to scum to help them make night kill targets.
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Feb 7, 2025 15:03
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Hal Incandenza posted:I mean, vote me, whatever, but since I didn't realize it was plurality and thought we were in danger of not killing anyone, I don't know what your issue with voting the only person who seemed like they would get the (unneeded) majority would be although it is possible this is true, the language about plurality was in the OP and in every vote-update post by horse, including three times on the very page you voted for schwinn (5 and 6 posts before , and 1 post after, yours). additionally, right after your vote, sharkmafia posted: sharkmafia posted:Well at any rate I'll be around and will vote to avoid a no elim. Doesn't look like there's a likely alternative candidate even if I had a strong objection which I don't to which i responded: schwein11 posted:based on the wording of the OP i don't think there can be a no-elim - player with "most votes" is eliminated at deadline. that does not necessarily mean majority. and: schwein11 posted:
in short, i don't believe you
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Feb 7, 2025 15:12
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schwein11 posted:no. there are 11 players alive. there are 8 unrevealed mutants left, and 13 revealed mutants left, each with both a town and scum option. too much room for scum to fakeclaim, and would only give information to scum to help them make night kill targets. Agree completely with this. I'd claim If that's the consensus but I'm squarely in the "bad idea" camp
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Feb 7, 2025 15:12
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schwein11 posted:although it is possible this is true, the language about plurality was in the OP and in every vote-update post by horse, including three times on the very page you voted for schwinn (5 and 6 posts before , and 1 post after, yours). additionally, right after your vote, sharkmafia posted: Well that is your prerogative, but since no one else was really in danger of passing shwinn what is my scum motivation for hopping on a bad vote?
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Feb 7, 2025 15:14
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Also posting things AFTER I voted isn't very compelling since I didn't read anything after I voted, because, as stated, I was very busy that day and had moved on to other things in my life. And as voodoo himself pointed out, he had just posted something along the lines of "we've only got an hour people" so that is what I was thinking about, not some OP or update post from the mod. Anyway, mostly pointless argument so I'll drop it now
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Feb 7, 2025 15:17
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also, although i would prefer voting for hal today, i would also vote for sandwolf. he pops in and gives vibes but has yet to really make a case on anyone and has yet to vote. also thinking about voodoo's role claim. he denies being mystique, but claims essentially her town power (redirect night kill to random other). of the revealed mutants, no one shares a power so exactly as that would be with mystique's. maybe i'm misunderstanding what you're claiming voodoo?
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Feb 7, 2025 15:18
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wins32767 posted:That was mostly a joke. I'm really uncomfortable at how he's not committing strongly. Oh, thank you! My energy levels and scumacuity can vary a lot from game to game, fwiw.
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Feb 7, 2025 15:56
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Hal Incandenza posted:I'd like to say I had a clever plan to trap scum with my shwinn vote, and maybe it did end up working out that way. Wasn't my intention. I appreciate this because I don't think I can read you well at all. Who scum, Hal?
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Feb 7, 2025 15:56
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schwein11 posted:yeah but if you think i'm scum, make your case and vote for me. i'm having fun and will play more games after this. It was uhh...that D1 post that pinged Yuming and Sandy. This one. schwein11 posted:i also think at least one of the folks in on the turbo attempt on yuming last night is scum, not sure which. (for reference, Disco Anne does initial vote on yuming, then Opop says let's turbo, then Opop votes, followed by Cube, Hal, and Schwinn in rapid succession) It reads suggestive of knowing that Yuming is town. ##vote Schwein11
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Feb 7, 2025 16:42
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CubicalSucrose posted:It was uhh...that D1 post that pinged Yuming and Sandy. no -yuming had not even posted in the game at the time of the turbo attempt. that's the point, there was nothing for anyone to go on to read yuming.
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Feb 7, 2025 17:41
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schwein11 posted:also, although i would prefer voting for hal today, i would also vote for sandwolf. he pops in and gives vibes but has yet to really make a case on anyone and has yet to vote. I’m Domino My role is similar to mistiqie, but not the same. I know someone tried to kill me last night which would have been randomly redirected to another player, which I assume was soru. And I’m not saying anything else about my power And honestly I’m still fine with my sand vote. Cube is probably my second. I fee cubes knows that an older player might thing turbos are stupid but is making more out of it than what it is.
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Yeah I just read it again it’s probably worse than my gut read on sand. It was pretty obvious Schwein had a fairly natural reaction to people voting timing when she hadn’t posted yet and you don’t need to be scum to have some master plan behind that ##vote cube
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Feb 7, 2025 18:31
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is the juggernaut a juggernaut
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Feb 7, 2025 19:29
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schwein11 posted:i'm having fun and will play more games after this. 
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Feb 7, 2025 19:42
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genuinely v. flattered to hear
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Feb 7, 2025 19:42
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wologar posted:My energy levels and scumacuity can vary a lot from game to game, fwiw. Yes, I imagine they vary with your alignment.
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Feb 7, 2025 20:10
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wins32767 posted:Yes, I imagine they vary with your alignment. Yes. And role and irl situation and players and so on.
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Feb 7, 2025 20:16
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Please read the above comment in Žižek's voice.
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Feb 7, 2025 20:17
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schwein11 posted:no -yuming had not even posted in the game at the time of the turbo attempt. that's the point, there was nothing for anyone to go on to read yuming. Hmm. I feel like we may be at some conflicting viewpoints about turbos. First, they work best before someone posts. Second, they are likeliest to succeed on non-scum, since scum can coordinate. Correspondingly, failed turbos can be useful to look at retrospectively. None of that is what my vote is about. Yuming hadn't posted, Yuming's alignment at that point (from a town POV) is "probably town but who knows." You didn't say "Yuming's probably town so this looks bad for Yuming voters" and you didn't say "Let's wait for Yuming to post, so we can figure out if they're a good vote candidate, or at least get some data points if we do wind up voting them out" or anything that suggests genuine ignorance about Yuming's alignment. Instead, you jump to the idea that there is scum on Yuming. Maybe! Perhaps even probably! But it seems a bit less likely to be true if Yuming is scum. This stuck out the first time, and I'm not the only one who noticed. Continuing to D2 now, given the level of explanation you'd been putting into your cases broadly D1, this sticks out even more. I would also vote Hal today, because if there was scum on Yuming (who might be scum), then I hope it's Hal. Could be DA I guess.
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CubicalSucrose posted:Hmm. I feel like we may be at some conflicting viewpoints about turbos. First, they work best before someone posts. Second, they are likeliest to succeed on non-scum, since scum can coordinate. Correspondingly, failed turbos can be useful to look at retrospectively. I'm not sure of what to make of such a reasonable reply from Cube.
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wologar posted:I'm not sure of what to make of such a reasonable reply from Cube. I think Cube looks alright for it and Voodoo and schwein look like poupou
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I agree that cube looks like the cool town guy in that exchange That said cube Voodoofly posted:??? Could you explain your reasoning here more/answer this question I also am confused
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