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General Wishy posted:Seems to me they really want to slow the R5 core and void key farming, but why? Why make the game have MORE grind for items like that? To be fair the only new content that regularly enters circulation is new weapons and if you can get them fully leveled and experiment them in non-geographic timescales it is bad because
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kinkouin posted:Baro K'Teer this round, Truly the Year of Quality is over now.
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Jan 23, 2016 18:28
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Literally poo poo.
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Can we please just get valk prime already. It's all I want.
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Jan 23, 2016 18:36
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YOTC posted:Can we please just get valk prime already. It's all I want. I wonder if Valkyr Prime would be based off the default skin or the Gersemi skin?
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Jan 23, 2016 18:42
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SynthOrange posted:Valkyr and Excal want a word with you. Valkyr's ult is good because it makes her invincible, not because it's melee. She is otherwise an EHP brick. Her ult doesn't make melee good. Even if it let you do as much damage as a well-fitted gun, which it doesn't, it's still going to fall apart as soon as you try to fight in complicated tile geometry or anywhere with lots of spread-out ranged like most of the interception or defense tiles. Really, if they were going to do melee, they should have tried to copy the core of one of the good, working melee action systems out there, like DMC, Arkham, Bayonetta, AC, Darksiders, etc. had, and then begun to shoehorn in their own ideas. Melee in Warframe is basically handled like using an extremely short-range gun. To have a fun, engaging, interesting melee game you really need some kind of view that lets you see all around your character, some kind of dodge/parry/block system to tie into that and give a sense of mastery and control to the fight, and a variety of moves that are available on-demand and not locked behind a clunky one-button system. Instead, what's considered 'viable' in melee are those frames that can simply afford to ignore anything other than their target (Rhino, Valkyr) or can annihilate everything before it becomes relevant (Excal, if you still consider him melee). Most other FPS games with melee options would have similar problems, and rather than doing all of the above - which is understandably a lot of work - they instead just use 'melee' as the graphic for your stealth insta-kill, like in every Far Cry or MGS.
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Coldbird posted:[*]Mesh for Zephyr deluxe skin was previewed, and is... really something. Steve and Scott looked kind of horrified, it was fun to watch. Apparently Mynki came by and was like "so... about collisions..." Kyte fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Jan 23, 2016 |
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Jan 23, 2016 18:52
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General Wishy posted:Seems to me they really want to slow the R5 core and void key farming, but why? Why make the game have MORE grind for items like that? Maybe they are trying to push people toward survival in the worst way possible.
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Jan 23, 2016 19:04
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valkyr is pretty good for picking up pubbies i either top the scores or come second
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Jan 23, 2016 19:04
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 Oh my god he's beautiful (if he doesnt grow up to be a crackhound)
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Jan 24, 2016 00:08
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SynthOrange posted:
Congrats on you're 90s cartoon dog
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Jan 24, 2016 00:11
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SynthOrange posted:
Ahaha, that is a fantastic dogge.  I'm usually all for dragon-related stuff, but, uh...E: and again with the Digital Devil Saga Asura-style feet... Between that and the new Trinity skins' Orbital Frame Feet, I think one of the designers at DE has just discovered PS2-era jRPGs. Malachite_Dragon fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Jan 24, 2016 |
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Jan 24, 2016 00:20
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Right, I know what you're talking about now. Denzine posted:No more than two spawn reliably, and two will almost never spawn in the same tile. This may be a tileset by tileset thing. I had two running a few times while doing the potato alert. Running a split squad with two frosts and two nukers doesn't sound too hard, but yes - will make using these for affinity worse.
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Jan 24, 2016 01:12
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Coldbird posted:Really, if they were going to do melee, they should have tried to copy the core of one of the good, working melee action systems out there, like DMC, Arkham, Bayonetta, AC, Darksiders, etc. had, and then begun to shoehorn in their own ideas. Melee in Warframe is basically handled like using an extremely short-range gun. To have a fun, engaging, interesting melee game you really need some kind of view that lets you see all around your character, some kind of dodge/parry/block system to tie into that and give a sense of mastery and control to the fight, and a variety of moves that are available on-demand and not locked behind a clunky one-button system. Wrong. Put Tonkor, Sonicor, Ignis or Boltor in any of those games and it's guaranteed melee will take a backseat too. Also that would make the enemies too easy since they're mostly melee or designed to be cruahed by melee heroes. Since the heroes are gunning them, they'll need to be upgraded to guns too. We also have dodging and blocking except people barely use it since enemies die too fast. It's the problem with having the combos too. By the time you have to deal with enemies strong enough to withstand 3 hits attacks and needing higher tier combos to dispatch, that's when the enemies could swaem and surround you and shoot you to death in seconds. Lasly, all of your examples are single player games. They could design the fights easier by limiting the encounters. Melee, in essence, is a well designed cage match. Even beat em ups are always in a "cage" arena. You can't do that with co-op free roaming around the map. The closest to that is the musou series where everyone is melee.
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Jan 24, 2016 02:04
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Hey goons and goonettes, How's Warframe these days? I recall playing it for about 10 hours and enjoying it before getting distracted by other games and now I'd like to reinstall it. Still worth playing?
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Jan 24, 2016 02:19
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PsychicToaster posted:Hey goons and goonettes, I think it's better than it's ever been. There's more content, more tile sets, more weapons, more frames, and more poo poo to play with.
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Jan 24, 2016 02:24
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Awesome, I watched a video of the PVP earlier and it was actually pretty good looking. The commentary was about how balanced it is, granted it was a year old video and that might have changed.
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Jan 24, 2016 02:26
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Oh god no
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PsychicToaster posted:Awesome, I watched a video of the PVP earlier and it was actually pretty good looking. The commentary was about how balanced it is, granted it was a year old video and that might have changed. stop
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Jan 24, 2016 02:57
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Goons hate PVP a lot.
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Jan 24, 2016 02:58
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aegof posted:Goons hate PVP a lot. Nah it's more the fact that DE has a whole team focused on PvP, but somehow fail to see that unless they A- invest in some dedicated servers for it and B-make all frames move considerably slower, PvP will stay the way it is now, a borderline unplayable cesspool. Which is a pity because the potential is huge. Any discussion about PvP makes people either sad or angry.
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Jan 24, 2016 03:06
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I am angry Angry about PvP If Archwing had a whole team dedicated to it maybe it would've been unfucked sooner, but nooo
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Jan 24, 2016 03:11
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the PVP team is like two people.
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Jan 24, 2016 03:18
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They have enough problems with the base game with a lot more people, it's unlikely to see PvP do much better as a result. WoW PvP had a crap-ton more people on it yet it never achieved the kind of e-Sports cred that MOBAs and Starcraft did, and they acknowledge years afterward that there's a lot of fundamental design decisions are what led to keeping WoW PvP from being balanced. Meanwhile, Guild Wars did a lot of what the WoW team would have wanted to do and it's still not quite as balanced as you'd hope either.
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Jan 24, 2016 03:31
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Denzine posted:the PVP team is like two people. The operative word is 'team'  And the implication that PvP is all they work on, nothing else. Having some dedicated people to Archwing certainly couldn't have hurt any.
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Jan 24, 2016 03:55
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I laughed and laughed and laughed when I just now took a look at the current conclave arsenal and noticed Ignis isn't there.
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Jan 24, 2016 04:25
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Denzine posted:the PVP team is like two people. It's more than the people who work on archwing...  PVP in warframe is just awful because the game was never once designed around it. The game was never meant to be played like that and it feels bad on every level. It would be like adding in 4 player vs into Street Fighter.
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Jan 24, 2016 04:34
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Jan 24, 2016 09:05
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Oh, apparently I bought a thing from Baro at some point and then forgot about it during my latest break. It oughta go together nicely with this thing I got from a sortie a while back. Time to throw some Forma at my Sancti Tigris, I think. 
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Jan 24, 2016 09:37
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Time to throw a forma onto SOMETHING. 
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Jan 24, 2016 10:24
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Speaking of Baro, if you use warframe.market this greasemonkey script will add the ducat value of whatever prime parts you have up for sale on your order page: http://pastebin.com/bvUcfMc3
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PS4 has an invasion up for an Orokin Catalyst Blueprint and it's going fast. Marid, on Sedna.
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Jan 24, 2016 16:37
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I'm getting rid of some old event weapons. Any reason why I should not toss out any of the following? Latron Wraith Snipetron Wraith Twin Vipers Lato Vandal
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Jan 24, 2016 17:02
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Pretty sure the Lato Vandal is unique to founders and will never come around again. Also don't throw out event weapons, what the hell slots are 6p.
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Jan 24, 2016 17:05
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Lato Vandal is closed Beta. Latron wraith is the best latron variant, snipetron is garbage. But you will never be able to get them back.
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Jan 24, 2016 17:11
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SwissArmyDruid posted:I'm getting rid of some old event weapons. Any reason why I should not toss out any of the following?
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Jan 24, 2016 17:33
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Wraith vipers are pretty good in a world where they don't consume eight times as much ammo as lex prime. Maybe someday we'll get the ammo overhaul we've needed for years.
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Jan 24, 2016 17:40
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To be fair I sold the Gorgon Wraith because I literally hate every aspect about that weapon. No part of it was enjoyable to me, and the open slot is worth far far more to me than the weapon ever was. On the other hand the Gorgon Wraith came around a few times, and considering some other wraith weapons have been in the sortie pool, I'd lay down money it'll come back again that way. Of course, knowing my luck, any sorties I run will drop parts for it.
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Jan 24, 2016 19:54
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Having it in your inventory will not safe your from parts dropping for it if the Karak Wraith is any indication, so just be happy you got a free slot out of it.
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Jan 24, 2016 20:02
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IIRC the Latron Wraith is also silent
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   The new lighting stuff looks pretty neat. DE working hard to keep the "Most Disproportionately Good-Looking Game" title it seems.
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