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Torquemada posted:I think that’s Stephen Baldwin, the guy from The Usual Suspects. Yeah. Stephen is the youngest and self-proclaimed Jesus freak. Daniel is... I dunno, somewhere in the middle and is the one who took Ben Kingsley to actin' school.
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Daniel Baldwin is the is Baldwin that apparently used up the entirety of his acting talent on Homicide: Life on the Street. He was so good in those 3 first seasons and after he left the show he has just been in a string of lovely movies.
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Just watched the show again for the first time since my original viewing and man, it's really just the best thing ever eh? I had forgotten how clever and ironic the script is, all those little lines and moments that get re-deployed throughout the series. Some of those performances too - obviously Gandolfini, Imperioli, etc. knock it out of the park, but supporting cast members like Nancy Marchand, Steve Schirripa, David Proval, Vincent Curatola and John Ventimiglia are so crucial to the show's success. Also, just a seriously funny show...Christopher's speech at Livia's memorial, and who could forget: 
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"He's dyslexic..." "... What does that have to do with anything?"
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"And we know that's not possible... even with computers"
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I love that mock "making of Cleaver" HBO put out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mVcWOc4lJs "Danny is from the streets... of Long Island." "I was looking through a lot of different movies, and the people making them. Most of them we couldn't afford. But we got recommended this up-and-coming director, and that director knew Morgan."
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"What did you say?" "I said there's a scene...all the B-movie, the comic book fanboys will go crazy; the climax, it's the best scene..." "...you said femboys?"
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Jerusalem posted:
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Honestly Cleaver probably would be a very solid B-Movie.
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Jack2142 posted:Honestly Cleaver probably would be a very solid B-Movie. Is there a real word equivalent? John Landis made a vampire movie with mafiosos called Innocent Blood with Robert Loggia (Feech!), that’s the only one I can think of.
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ruddiger posted:Is there a real word equivalent? John Landis made a vampire movie with mafiosos called Innocent Blood with Robert Loggia (Feech!), that’s the only one I can think of. I feel like Analyze This meets Jason X is such an effective elevator pitch it has to exist.
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ruddiger posted:Is there a real word equivalent? John Landis made a vampire movie with mafiosos called Innocent Blood with Robert Loggia (Feech!), that’s the only one I can think of. Leprechaun in the Hood?
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ruddiger posted:Is there a real word equivalent? John Landis made a vampire movie with mafiosos called Innocent Blood with Robert Loggia (Feech!), that’s the only one I can think of. Maybe Sicilian Vampire, a vanity movie written, directed and starring a sleazebag Canadian "businessman" who fancies himself a gangster? He paid real actors (Including Robert Loggia!) to star alongside him.
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JethroMcB posted:Maybe Sicilian Vampire, a vanity movie written, directed and starring a sleazebag Canadian "businessman" who fancies himself a gangster? He paid real actors (Including Robert Loggia!) to star alongside him. Sounds like a slimy Neil Breen.
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Jack2142 posted:Honestly Cleaver probably would be a very solid B-Movie. Cleaver is 100% becoming a cult classic in the Sopranos universe once people figure out the sordid story behind it. In a weird way, it is Christopher's best bid for immortality
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What was the movie AJ was supposed to work on? Source Code or something like that?
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“He does porn!” “He’s branching out.”
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Season 6, Episode 15 - Remember WhenPaulie Gualtieri posted:When my time comes, tell me... will I stand up? Tony wakes with a start, something had intruded on his peaceful sleep, perhaps a bad dream or a premonition... maybe just indigestion from his terrible diet. Rolling out of bed and into the bathroom, he washes his face but then hears the noise of a car engine outside that adds to his unease. It wasn't so long ago that the police showed up at his door to arrest him, and while he got mostly clear of that nonsense the Sword of Damocles is forever dangling over his head. When he looks out the window, he sees his old friend Paulie Gualtieri and initially smiles. But something about Paulie's determined stride raises that same feeling of unease in him. In the kitchen, a frustrated Carmela apologizes to Paulie for not being able to make him a coffee, their machine is broken. He waves her apology off with thanks as Tony joins them, handing over the paper. Carmela is off to meet a realtor and they watch her go happily, then get down to serious business. Tony, attempting to ignore reality as long as he can, leads him outside so he can happily check on his tomato plants, but Paulie's news is serious. One of his bribed cops has let him know the FBI is digging over on Branford Avenue. Initially Tony is confused, so what? But he soon realizes how important this is when Paulie reminds him of a bookie called Willie Overall on Labor Day of 1982.   On Branford Avenue, Tony and Paulie sit in a car watching the FBI hauling chunks of concrete out of the basement below a house. Paulie has more bad news to follow, according to his cop, it's Larry Barese - recently re-arrested for repeatedly violating his parole - who has been talking and he knows all sorts of things that could prove trouble for all of them, particularly Tony. Tony has a brief flashback to the day in question, Willie Overall cowering in a crude shallow grave in the basement as Paulie told a young Anthony Soprano to get on with it. He shot him twice, then he and Paulie filled in the grave and left it to rot for the next 25 years. Back in the present, Paulie notes that was how Tony "made his bones", it was the first murder he ever committed and it's a sad reality that this drastic and life-altering moment has by this point become so relegated to the back of Tony's mind that he had to be prompted to recall it at all. Paulie revels in the memory though, pointing out that while Tony was a little shaky he did what had to be done and he did it well, Paulie said as much to Johnny Boy Soprano when it was done. After 25 years, maybe there's nothing left to find? Tony isn't so optimistic, he knows there'll be bones and teeth at the very least, and as Bobby pointed out in Sopranos Home Movies, you've got to worry about DNA too. So if Larry Boy has told the FBI that Tony and Paulie killed somebody in that basement and they find a body, they're both in a lot of trouble. Which is why Tony informs Paulie that they have to pack their toothbrushes, they're going to Miami to wait this out. Back at home, Carmela packs Tony's bags as he shouts out instructions on what she's to do to manage while he's gone. She can call him every couple days on the alternate cell, or call Silvio or Bobby if she needs anything, and if she needs extra cash she can call him etc. Carmela, long since resigned to this life, grunts back that she knows the drill and he grumpily sticks his head in the door to complain that an enforced trip to Miami is far from the same thing as winning a trip to Paris (yes, somehow he's holding over her head the thing he warmly encouraged her to do). Clearly feeling somewhat remorseful for the Paris crack, as he heads downstairs Tony makes as close as he can to an apology by gently assuring Carmela that he's just going down to Miami to wait out a possible gambling charge, having not told her just how serious the whole thing is. Carmela, obviously feeling a little bad about being snippy herself, asks him to make sure he has everything he needs and then admits that the worst part is that at their age they're still having to deal with this kind of thing. Tony doesn't dispute it, looking longingly to the back of the house and pointing out that his tomato plants had only just come in and now he has to leave them behind. They at least have each other to commiserate with. Paulie's home is different, he lives alone and does his own packing. There's nobody to share his concerns with, nobody to reassure or even to argue with. Just him and his several pairs of identical white shoes.   Even Junior Soprano has somebody. Pat Blundetto and Beppy Scerbo visit him at the mental care center, where they're pleased to see he is alert and seemingly clear-headed, no longer constantly repeating himself. He is as temperamental as ever, but he was like that before his dementia, and if anything it feels like the old Junior is back. He complains he needs to get out of the facility, complaining about the smell, but when Pat and Beppy conspiratorially admit that they've come up with a plan to sneak him out if he organizes a visit with an outside dentist he seems to quickly lose interest. He's more concerned with the fact that Tony hasn't been in contact to apologize to him (!), and distracted when an orderly informs him dinner is soon: they're having enchiladas tonight! But when he stands up, he seems fit and healthy, the Junior Soprano of old. Beppy expertly slides over an envelope of cash, his taste from the Electricians' Union, and Pat happily shares a goodbye blessing in Italian with him before they take their leave. Going to the dining room, one of those sitting at the table with Junior is a young Asian-American named Carter Chong who takes no issue with Junior instructing him to watch his plate. Rather, Carter seems pleased to have been given the order, watching with keen interest as Junior approaches an orderly named Jameel and whispers quietly to him. Returning to the table, Junior whispers something to Carter who nods and immediately leaves to follow the instructions he's just been given. It seems Junior isn't just back to his old self, but up to his old tricks as well. A little later, patients quietly enter the craft room to join a game of poker that Junior has organized. Jameel has brought in sodas and candy - forbidden to many of the patients due to the high sugar content - though he's demanding $60 for them from Junior after correctly pointing out that Tony is making a gigantic profit through on-selling to a captive market. Junior is pissed, he already gave Jameel his watch, but he's an invaluable asset, agreeing to watch the door and steer people away until lights out. Junior pays up and then lets the patients know that it's a $40 buy-in for which they'll be issued buttons to use as cash for the pot.. but also to purchase snacks if they like. He gets a little sidetracked when another patient cracks a joke, getting irritated until Carter gets him back on point, and the game begins. It's not the Executive Game, but for Junior it's a welcome return to what he does best: profiting off the less fortunate. Tony and Paulie drive out of New Jersey on their way to Miami. They reminisce warmly about 82, disregarding the fact a man died cowering and weeping in a shallow grave as a result of it, laughing about how long it took them to find a spot while they drove around with Willie bundled up in the trunk. Also, while Tony laughs and smiles along, it's largely Paulie doing the active reminiscing, happily recalling those days and the events around them. He marvels at the fact it was only a week before Meadow was born and now she's studying to become a doctor, and that makes Tony smile. But his smile fades when Paulie happily recalls how he, Pussy and Ralphie took Tony out to dinner after Willie was dealt with. Both those others are dead and gone now, Paulie an active participant in the former's death and probably strongly suspecting that Tony was involved in the latter's.   As they head towards Maryland, Paulie spots a sign for Chevy Chase which makes him think of the actor, asking what the hell ever happened to him. Tony has a different part of the past he wants to reflect on though, and not a pleasant one. Taking the opportunity, the two of them alone, driving through the night towards Florida, he notes that Ralphie's name made him remember something. All that unpleasantness with Johnny Sack came from somebody telling him about the nasty joke Ralphie made about Ginny... now Tony "ponders" aloud just who might that somebody have been? Paulie, suddenly not wanting to wallow in the past, grunts,"How should I know?" and Tony shrugs, and they both look away, the conversation suddenly dead in the water. At the care facility, Junior watches Carter dealing around the table and leading the patients - including some who clearly should NOT be gambling - through each hand. One patient - Itzhak - drops out of the game, too agitated to continue, while an older man called Walter triumphantly demonstrates he has a flush only for Carter to sigh that he doesn't and move on. As Walter struggles to figure out how the cards he thought he had don't match the cards he did have, an old man named George with Alzheimer's who doesn't even remember he's playing the game somehow wins the hand with a pair of jacks, and Carter pushes the pot over to him. But for Junior this is all wonderful, it's people gathered around and gambling in a game HE is running, just like old times. He shares a semi-dirty joke which makes everybody laugh (and one over-stimulated guy to start weeping) before they distracted by a knock on the door. It's Professor Brian Lynch, a former member of the faculty at Rutgers University who had a breakdown, stabbed the Dean and then slit his own wrists in the faculty lounge. He's come looking for a nervous patient called Keith, reminding him they had an appointment to play chess, but Junior rushes him off with a threat after mocking what put him in the center in the first place. Things are starting to fall apart now though, Junior shares another dirty joke which gets the over-stimulated patient sobbing louder as he laughs. Another orderly, a large man called Warren, suddenly enters the room demanding to know what is going on, Professor Lynch having gone to tell him something is up in the craft room. Despite his imposing size, Warren isn't a muscle-head, and he doesn't blow-up or lose his cool, simply sighs and tells Junior that he'd been warned about this type of thing, it's too much stress for the patients to deal with. Junior insists it is just a friendly game (the buttons are the perfect cover, their only worth as currency is dictated by the exchange rate for real cash that Junior himself sets) and the sobbing patient isn't even playing, but Warren shuts it all down and sends everybody out in any case. Junior can't resist one last flouting of authority though, noting that he saw Warren's girlfriend as pet therapy... how does she keep her coat so shiny? Carter laughs and Junior beams, while Warren - who has surely had worse said and done - just lets it roll off his back. Junior returns to his room and settles in for the night, enjoying some candy while watching a documentary on the weather channel: as "incarceration" goes this is better than most, he has a room, television, a comfortable chair to sit wearing pajamas and a gown, tea brought to him by an eager young assistant. Carter joins him in the room, initially turning down Junior's attempt to pass over his "taste" (a small handful of buttons, which again only have the value that Junior gives them) but acquiescing when Junior insists. Junior, enjoying both the chance to remember as well as to impart a lesson to his new protege, recounts a story from his youth. His father took him to work building a wall around a rich woman's garden. The woman in question came home and Junior helped carry in her groceries, then declined her offer of a quarter (a lot in those days, especially for a kid) in payment. The moment she was inside, his father whacked him across the mouth and asked if he was too rich to accept money, or if he didn't feel the need to eat. Carter is shocked but Junior warmly insists his father was right, and even happily recounts how he was forced to walk home 11 miles from Essex Fields to Newark. As a surprised Carter tells him that he is from Essex Fields, they're interrupted by a knock on the door from Keith. Nervously he explains that Warren told him he should come insist on getting his buttons back since the game wasn't allowed. Junior, completely uncowed by appeals to authority, tells Keith to tell Warren to go gently caress himself, and come see him if he has a problem with that. Keith, who sure as gently caress isn't going to tell Warren to go gently caress himself, timidly asks if he can at least have some candy, and an incredulous Junior laughs at him to get the gently caress out of here. Carter is delighted by Junior's complete contempt for authority, of course, and shares a story of his own father. Until this moment, Carter has seemed a completely normal young man, but as he explains how his father didn't credit him when he scored highest in the class during Third Grade, he loses his cool. "gently caress you! gently caress YOU!" he screams at the memory of the father, spitting with rage. Junior is taken aback by the outburst, but offers no words of comfort of even condemnation, just lets Carter stew in his fury.   Driving through Fredericksburg in Virginia, Paulie is asleep in the passenger seat and Tony is getting tired. He wakes Paulie and says they should stop for the night, and now it is his turn to play,"Remember when...?" as he asks about the dive hotel they stayed at in Culpeper. It takes him a second but Paulie remembers, it was the Havenaire and they picked up a couple of 16-year-old "Hillbilly Whores" near the taxi stand (charming). Tony suggests they relive those old days by stopping off there, ordering room service, scotch and a couple of steaks. Paulie is eager, and they drive to where they remember the Havenaire being... and find a somewhat more upmarket hotel has replaced it. Confused, they call out to one of the bellmen moving a luggage rack outside, asking if this place is new and if the Havenaire used to be here. He doesn't know and can't offer them any information, irritating Tony who somehow thinks it is this guy's job to know about a motel that might have been gone 20 years or more by now. This interaction is also worth pointing out simply as an interesting factoid: the bellman is played by Lin-Manuel Miranda, who like Lady Gaga before him would go on to far greater success in their showbusiness careers after a fleeting appearance on The Sopranos. Beggars can't be choosers so reluctantly they decide to stay at the nice hotel rather than the dive motel they wanted. Unfortunately Culpeper, Virginia doesn't quite offer the same degree of service you might expect in New York: they can get two good-sized rooms for the night but alcohol is only available through the mini-bar and they only serve wraps after 11pm. The desk clerk does suggest the restaurant Buckingham's though... they can get nachos! It's better than nothing so they head over there, and Tony is more amenable to some more,"Remember when...?'s" when Paulie brings up how he and Johnny Boy made the trip down through Virginia many times in the 1960s. Tony fondly remembers his dad had a piece of a dog track down this way, and Paulie delights him with the story of his first time on a trip with Johnny Boy. Paulie was driving Johnny Boy's '59 Eldorado (a car Tony remembers with pleasure), only 20-years-old, no driver's license, and out of Newark for the first time in his life when they were pulled over by a State Trooper. A cool Johnny Boy told Paulie to lie and say he had a cousin on the job too, and gave him a name to give. A credulous Paulie did as he was told, telling the State Trooper he had a cousin named Barney Fife on the job! The Trooper, of course, punched Paulie right in the goddamn mouth, and a hysterically laughing Johnny Boy paid him off with $100, a tremendous amount of money in those days (even more than the quarter Junior Soprano turned down!). Tony reminisces himself, he remembers Paulie from those days: his father would scare him straight if he misbehaved by threatening to set Uncle Paulie on him. Paulie laughs, and then proudly tells Tony of just how much Johnny Boy loved him, how the night Tony was born was the only time Paulie ever saw him cry. Tony is impacted by this perhaps more than he wants to let on, admitting that he never truly understood how things stood with his father, whether he was proud of him or liked him at all. It's a startling admission, more than he has ever offered Melfi in close to a decade of therapy. Paulie offers him an assured but less than touching reminder of "evidence" that Johnny Boy must have believed in him... after all, he gave him the Willie Overall job when he was only in his early 20s. Tony seems less than enthused about this, after all it's the action of a Captain giving a task to a soldier, not a father showing love for a son, but he simply nods. Standing, he drops cash on the table, dropping a $100 without a second thought, the same amount that Johnny Boy once bribed a State Trooper with.   The next morning at the breakfast buffet, Paulie is talking the ear off another guy in line about the time he refused to pay for a busted tailpipe when Tony comes to get him. As they leave, Paulie says goodbye to his new buddy who tells him to enjoy Miami, upsetting Tony who reminds him they're supposed to be laying low. A contrite Paulie doesn't apologize but hangs his head low, then notes he wants to grab some danishes for the road. Never one to let go of a chance to exploit an opportunity, he piles up a napkin high with danish after danish. It is visiting day at the mental care facility, and Junior and Carter enter the lounge together amusing each other with their contempt for the other patients. Carter becomes nervous though when he sees his mother, his entire body language changing, not quite able to meet her eye as he introduces her to "Mister Soprano". Junior is all charm for the thoroughly un-charmed Mrs. Chong, who offers polite nothings back to his greeting, then stands blankly as he complains that his new medication makes him salivate. Sensing that he's the third wheel, he says he'll leave them to their visit, before standing blank for a moment before complaining yet again that his new medication makes him salivate. Carter and his mother sit, and she asks how he is feeling before asking him about his aggression towards other patients, which one of the doctors had told her about. Carter gets fired up by this, seething that she would "pretend" to care about his feelings first before jumping right to this. Even now he can't quite meet her eye, until she admits that her concerns about him modeling his behavior on the "wrong people" is specifically in reference to Junior. Irate, he glares at her as he jabs a finger, not quite the same level of unbridled rage as he showed in Junior's room, reminding her not to believe what she reads in the paper after some of the things written about "daddy". She snaps back that it was the Wall Street Journal which is entirely different, but he's too pissed off to deal with any more and storms off. So much of their family dynamic is revealed in this scene, especially considering this is Carter's first episode and his mother's first ever appearance. His complaints about being a shut-in at MIT, the earlier story about his 96 on a spelling test not being enough, her meticulous wardrobe and painfully restrained emotional facade, his use of the word "daddy" and school-kid level complaints about unfair/hypocritical treatment. Carter is a smart kid from an emotionally distant family who cracked under the pressure, and now his mother is trying her best while he sees conspiracy or disdain behind her every action and word... but at least she's there, where the hell is "daddy"? Tony and Paulie arrive in Miami, Paulie heading in to reception to check them in (under the name Spears, of course) while Tony takes a call from Silvio. It's not good news, the FBI found the body and have tentatively ID'd it as Willie Overall's. Sil tells Tony to try and relax and asks after Paulie, and Tony complains that, as much as he loves the guy, he won't shut up. Sil isn't surprised, that's Paulie after all, and Tony complains that Paulie doesn't have anything to be worried about anyway since in this scenario they'll be coming after him. Silvio can't offer anything more beyond assuring him he's checked in on Carmela and will let him know if he hears anymore. Tony hangs up, then frowns as he sees Paulie has stopped with a trio of Bellman to crack some jokes/share some stories. Junior is dictating letters from his room, helpfully typed up by Carter on a computer. It's an oddly charming if ludicrous letter to then Vice President Dick Cheney, asking for his assistance as a fellow victim of an accidental gun discharge. There is a knock at the door, it's Jameel with an envelope and a warning: the professor told Doctor Mandl about the poker games, so they're going to have to shut them down for awhile. Inside the envelope are pictures of Junior under arrest, which Jameel has brought for Junior to sign as part of their agreement. Jameel explains to Carter that he puts them on eBay, there is plenty of demand for autographed pictures of the man who "capped" Tony Soprano, and he's got a direct link to a source for those autographs. Junior, uncomfortable with the pictures as well as his own obvious exploitation (normally he is the exploiter), hesitates, and angrily Jameel reminds him he needs to live up to his part of the deal if he wants to keep getting those sodas and candy.  In Miami, Tony and Paulie have dinner with Beansie Gaeta, who is thriving in Miami after his relocation following being paralyzed by Richie Aprile. Tony had brought him a gift of branded caps from the Cleaver movie, though he uneasily admits he hadn't actually thought about it when Beansie asks where a DVD copy of the movie is. He assures him he'll get him one though, and they move to happier conversation. After sharing a toast, Beansie raises the prospect of a potential business arrangement with a Cuban who hijacks trucks, and Tony is very interested. With business out of the way, it's on to pleasure, as Beansie reminisces in a more direct fashion by pulling out an envelope of pictures he found while moving house. One of them is of Paulie, but a young Paulie, flexing a powerful bicep, looking like about the coolest guy possible. Paulie is thrilled to see the picture too, accurately recalling it was taken in 1963 by Mickey Pinto. Tony points out the leather wristband he is wearing in the picture and admits that him and all his friends got one too because they wanted to be tough guys like Paulie Gualtieri. The next picture is bittersweet though, it's a photo of Johnny Boy and Junior Soprano standing together outside of Satriale's, posing in front of the Eldorado. Tony forces a smile - the photo features the Uncle who shot him, after all - and passes it to a more genuinely happy Paulie, who is thrilled to see it. Beansie promises to get his daughter to scan the photos and send them copies, the excuses himself to take a call from his wife. They insist he can speak at the table if he likes, and get uncomfortable when he comfortably explains he has to change out his bag. He wheels away from the table, and Paulie turns to Tony with an awkward face, saying,"loving kill me now!" at the thought of having to piss into a bag for the rest of his life. Tony, reminded of the real-life consequences of his failure to keep Richie Aprile restrained, doesn't answer but sits in uncomfortable silence. Junior has settled in for another pleasant night in front of the television, watching infomercials while enjoying a Kit-Kat and a hot drink. He's interrupted by a call from Pat Blundetto, wanting to know if he's made any moves to visit that outside dentist liked they discussed? At first Junior has no idea what he is talking about or even who he is talking to, but hearing Pat's name brings it all back and he recalls their scheme. Irritated at being disturbed he points out that even if he did escape where exactly would he go? Besides, it's not safe, he's being watched and they'll talk later! He hangs up on a confused Pat who is trying to remind him he's returning to Sarasota soon and the window will be closed, then goes back to enjoying his infomercials. He'll never admit it, but he's happy and comfortable and despite his protests to the contrary has no desire to leave. Beansie has arranged dates for the dinner and is regaling the young, attractive women with stories about Paulie's prominence in the 1970s and 80s, which is well before any of the women were born. Paulie is pleased with being talked up but wants to offer back something too, and points to Beansie as a real stand-up guy before realizes just what a lovely thing that is to say about somebody who literally can't stand up. Beansie doesn't seem to give a poo poo though, he's certainly been through worse, and calls over to the waiter for some more drinks before sharing the story of the time Paulie tossed hot oil over somebody who was talking poo poo to Beansie's cousin. The escorts laugh in surprise (and probably a little unease) but Tony's mood is darkening as stories from the old days are being continually brought up. When Paulie asks him if he remembers when they rented a house down the shore he can barely force out a nod, and he had enough when Paulie smirks and points out it's where a hippie kid "mysteriously" drowned during a party - yet another story casually bandied about regarding something they could get put into jail for. Beansie picks up that Tony seems upset and asks after him, but Tony insists everything is fine. But Paulie doesn't let it lie, asking if he's sure... he's been awfully quiet after all. Tony gives him a glare and nastily points out that,"Remember when is the lowest form of conversation", then leads his escort away from the table to dance with him. The other escorts exchange nervous looks with Beansie who doesn't know how to react, while Paulie is left with understandably hurt feelings.  
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In New York, Phil Leotardo has dinner with Doc Santoro, where they discuss a problem with DeLeo Construction. Phil assures Doc that he's told DeLeo as clearly as he can that Doc is the Boss of the Family now, it seems with Gerry Torciano's murder no other viable candidate has stepped forward to challenge Doc's ascendancy. Phil passes over an envelope for Doc, who doesn't acknowledge it any way, instead asking after Patty... while also leaning forward and hovering his fork directly over Phil's plate. "You mind?" he asks, putting Phil immediately on the spot. Reading a paper at the table nearby, Butchie looks up in alarm at the situation: Doc is literally intending to eat the food from Phil's plate, a clear provocation and insult, his question on if Phil minds obviously designed to force Phil into the position where he must either decline and insult his Boss or accept and suffer the humiliation. Phil, blank-faced, nods at Doc to go ahead, and then takes a drink of his wine as he watches Doc revel in this pathetic display of power. Junior plays checkers with Carter, winning of course (Carter's angry but he's not stupid) when Professor Lynch approaches, mocking them for their "thinking-man's game". The woman leading the craft lesson on origami warns Junior not to get aggressive when he threatens to smack Lynch in the mouth, and Lynch - enjoying Junior being under watch - snaps at him to move out of the way so he can get the chess set. Junior snaps back to ask what he'll do if he doesn't, and gets another warning. Sighing, he leans back and Lynch smugly collects the set, laughing off Junior's next threat by saying he's only a tough guy when there is an authority figure nearby he can use as an excuse not to do anything. As he begins to gloat that the mighty have fallen, Junior tosses his juice into Lynch's face, leaps to his feet and grabs him close, kneeing him in the balls and dropping him to the ground. He kicks at Lynch in a fury, asking if he's so smart now as the craft teacher screams at him to stop, the other patients lose their cools and an exultant Carter eggs Junior on to keep kicking his rear end. Orderlies rush in and pull Junior off while others check on Lynch, and Carter drinks it all in hungrily, his idolization of Junior growing all the stronger. The craft teacher and Jameel meet with Dr. Mandl in his office to discuss the situation, with Mandl asking Jameel for his take on Junior's attitude and whether he was the aggressor, or a troublemaker in general. Jameel assures him that Junior is fine so long as you know how to talk to him, but becomes defensive when the craft teacher notes that he has a lovely vintage watch, it must have been expensive. Nervously he covers it up and mumbles he got it at a flea market, then works up some fake outrage and asks if he is the only caregiver being spoken to because he's black? Mandl isn't defensive though, simply thanking him and dismissing him, before telling the woman that he's going to write up a change for Junior's medication. At Katz's Delicatessen, Hesh is enjoying lunch while taking a call from Tony down in Florida. Tony is asking for a bridge loan of 200k to cover some gambling losses, and Hesh doesn't hesitate for a second to assure him it's done. Tony, with the breezy indifference of a long-time gambler who doesn't want to admit to themselves there is a problem, assures Hesh it's just a run of bad luck he's been on the last couple of months, before laughing that Hesh probably doesn't want to here that kind of sob story. Hesh doesn't judge or question, not when it is Tony Soprano, he just agrees that it happens but that this too shall pass. Tony thanks him and then then answers his door, Anika the escort has arrived, and soon the overweight middle-aged man is grunting away on top of the young, attractive woman in her twenties which is surely a real treat for her. The sex over, she asks if she can smoke and he happily agrees, pulling out a cigar for himself as she lights up a cigarette. She talks about the dinner, saying it was fun and asking how he knows Beansie (whom she calls Peter), and he explains they're old friends from the neighborhood. She admits she was a little confused by Paulie, assuming at first that he was Tony's dad. Tony admits there was once a time in his life when he wished he was, before explaining Paulie used to work for his father. Anika knows that already though, it seems Paulie told her already. That leaves Tony uneasy again, Paulie really is just openly talking to EVERYBODY he meets. Junior has received a disappointing form letter from the office of the Vice President, thanking him for the recent inquiry but explaining Dick Cheney can't personally respond to each letter but sincerely appreciates the interest. Junior isn't upset though, he's not much of anything, sleeping with mouth gaping open on a couch in one of the common rooms. He's woken by a caregiver who tells him it is time for a group session, and he mumbles that his new medication has taken away his pep and he can't focus on anything for long anymore. She assures him this will pass as his system gets used to the medication, and it will also improve his memory. But once she's gone, Carter slips in and tells him this is all bullshit, he's convinced they're drugging him to be keep him docile as punishment for the beating he gave Lynch. Junior, paranoid at the best of times, doesn't take much convincing.   Tony and Paulie wait for a meeting with the Cuban Beansie told them about, but he's late and they're tired. Finally the Cuban arrives... but not alone. There are three others with him and Tony is immediately considering exit options... except Paulie is already out the door, not a moment's hesitation as he strides up to meet them, not intimidated in the slightest. Swearing, Tony follows after him, doing his best to calm things down as Paulie cracks insults at the Cubans for being late and bringing so many. Ramon is placated by Tony's introductions and introduces Esteban beside him, explaining they and the others had to slip away from a wedding to make this meeting. They talk among themselves in Spanish for a few moments, raising Tony and Paulie's unease more, but then explain that they can supply a trailer full of factory sealed Black & Decker and Makita power tools later this month for 60k. Tony offers a counter, they can do 55k but that has to include transporting the goods to New Jersey for them... but with a sweetener, they'll in turn load up the vehicle with air mattresses, pool toys and Kerastase and Ramon can keep 5% after sale. Ramon agrees, not because it's necessarily a great deal but because he's interested in building a long-term relationship. Tony is fine with that and the deal is made, though Ramon can't help but get in a little dig at Paulie by asking if that is okay with "Tio, a not necessarily affectionate reference to his age. Paulie gives as good as he gets though, pinching Ramon's cheek and giving it a little condescending pat, which amuses Tony greatly. Junior is brought his medication in his room, Jameel accompanying the nurse and being far more hostile and by-the-book than before, clearly in fear for his job. But as Junior is about to down his meds, out in the hallway Carter angrily demands Itzhak not push him, causing Itzhak to lose his cool. Jameel roars at them both to settle down, but in the immediate distraction Junior has successfully tossed his meds and simply downs the cup filled with nothing but water instead. Tony and Beansie enjoy a late night drink outside his home, where Tony can't help but show admiration for Paulie and the complete lack of fear or hesitation he showed when four healthy young Cuban gangsters showed up unexpectedly to their meet. But with that out of the way, he points out that as much as he loves him he can't believe how much he talks about EVERYTHING. Beansie laughs, saying Paulie has always been like that, but Tony responds that he used to be "Gary Cooper" (the strong, silent type), obviously remembering the idealized version of his Uncle Paulie he had in his head as a child rather than the real thing. Beansie, who is older, remembers more clearly, telling Tony about the time he fell asleep during a phone-call with Paulie and woke up 20 minutes later to Paulie STILL talking. They sit in companionable silence for a little while, but then Tony raises another issue, using Beansie as a sounding board for the thoughts that have been racing through his head since at least Culpeper: is Paulie becoming a liability? Beansie is quick to poo-poo the idea, Paulie may talk a lot but he'd never talk to the FBI... but Tony isn't so sure. Beansie's assurance that Paulie is just one of those guys who lives alone and so becomes extroverted in public doesn't really work for him. They're momentarily interrupted by Beansie's wife Gia, whose happy kisses and promises that he's welcome to dinner anytime differ wildly from her rage in the immediate aftermath of Beansie's injury at Richie's hands. When she leaves, Tony points out what a wonderful rock she has been for Beansie, who replies that THIS is what Paulie is missing. He has no wife, no kids, and Tony points out that once the grace period of the Barone Sanitation sell-off ends he'll have no steady legitimate income stream too and that makes him vulnerable to the FBI. But Beansie is making another point, because he has nobody else, what Paulie does have is unmistakable loyalty to Tony... because he has nobody else. All he has is Tony, the other guys in the Family, and his image as a tough guy. Beansie, who perhaps realizes better than Tony that they're talking around Tony suggesting Paulie has to die, promises him that whatever else he knows, he knows Paulie is a stand-up guy. "Has he ever really been tested?" asks Tony, who himself has spent nothing more than a couple of overnight stays in jail, but when Beansie promises that Paulie loves him more than anything, Tony admits that in spite of it all he loves Paulie too. Beansie smiles, feeling like he might have just helped Tony avoid doing something he'd soon regret.   Tony returns to the hotel in a cheerful mood and heads up to his room, where he knocks back booze from the mini-bar when he gets a phone-call. It's Silvio with some very good news from Bobby, whose late wife's sister works in the courthouse. Yes, Larry Boy is cooperating with the FBI... but in a very backhanded way. He gave them Willie Overall's location, but sold them a bullshit story that the late Jackie Aprile was the one who did the deed: Tony and Paulie are both completely in the clear. In spite of himself he muses that there'll always be something else, but Silvio tells him for tonight at least he's good. Tony thanks him and says goodbye, hanging up and only then letting the weight lift off of him. Sighing in relief, he heads out onto the balcony to enjoy the breeze, feeling like a new man... which is when he hears the laughter. Through the open window of the balcony next to him, he can see Paulie sitting on the end of his bed watching Three's Company, guffawing loudly, a chattering laugh like Woody Woodpecker's. Tony grimaces with contempt, similar to that he showed when he saw AJ similarly laughing while in a chatroom, and knocks back more of the minibar bottle of booze. The next day he's all smiles though as he and Paulie lay on chairs out on the beach and he shares the good news from the previous night. Laying there, he declares that they should treat themselves (the whole trip has been treating themselves!) before they head back, and suggests they charter a boat and go do some sport fishing. Paulie is surprised, is he serious? He is, saying the marlin out here is too good to resist. Paulie agrees but less than enthusiastically, for reasons that will quickly become apparent. Junior, now off his meds and back to his more energetic self, is sharing dirty jokes with the other patients, some of whom don't seem to really get it but laugh (or cry) anyway. He gets up to use the bathroom but they beg him for one more before he goes, so he starts into a horrifically awful joke but forgets the punchline. Clearly Carter has heard it from him many times before though, as he offers it up and everybody roars with laughter. Even Junior is not agitated at having his thunder stolen, just enjoying being the center of attention... until he realizes he left going to the bathroom too late. "ACCIDENT! ACCIDENT!" bellows one patient as Junior realizes he's pissed his pants. Warren rushes to his side, asking what happened, and a miserable Junior bemoans his state. Not unkindly, Warren leads him away to help him clean up, leaving Carter mortified and embarrassed for his mentor. At a check-up with the doctor, Junior insists this was simply an accident and only to be expected for an old man like him. But the doctor is suspicious, the medication he is supposedly taking every day includes a drug to prevent incontinence, not to mention one for his aggressiveness which hasn't abated. Junior insists he has been taking his medication and Hormel can tell him as much. The doctor corrects him on Jameel's name, and it doesn't matter since he has been fired anyway. He offers Junior a stark choice: take his medication as prescribed, or wear adult diapers and get transferred to a different, far less pleasant facility to continue his care. Junior makes his decision. When the nurse and Warren arrive at his room for his next round of meds, he ignores Carter's distraction demanding to know where his iPod is. He waits, and when Warren and the nurse turn back he takes his meds and his water like a good boy. Carter is horrified, and confronts Junior once left alone, why did he take his meds knowing what they'll do to him? Junior is irritated, he doesn't want to piss himself again plus the administration is muscling him and he doesn't have any choice. Angry, Carter reminds him that the distractions he has been causing could get him in trouble, and complains that Junior doesn't give a poo poo about that (he's right). But still desperate to cling on to Junior as the ultimate flouter of authority, he suggests they organize another card game. Junior complains he is tired though and maybe they can do it another day. Crestfallen, Carter lives Junior in his room watching the $25,000 Pyramid.   Tony and Paulie arrive at their chartered boat, the Sea Vous Play. Paulie seems distracted, not catching Tony's pun about Beansie. He gets onboard and unties the mooring rope as Tony starts up the engine. As they pull away, flashes of Pussy's death race through Paulie's mind. This, of course, is the source of his trepidation. The last time an under pressure Tony happily called for a trip out on a boat, it was so they could murder their old friend Pussy, an act that Paulie has insisted time and again did not bother him but clearly did. Now Paulie can only wonder, is it his turn to be Pussy? Carter lies in his bed staring at the ceiling when Junior, uncharacteristically timid, knocks on his door and enters his room. He was worried when Carter didn't show up to lunch, and has come bearing a peace-offering of sorts, Hootie and the Blowfish CDs that Keith gave him to pay back money he owed. Carter offers a quiet thanks but he's a million miles away, thoughts racing through his head as Junior happily explains that Professor Lynch told him that Dick Cheney doesn't read the letters he gets at the White House (they have computers for that!)... but if he sends a letter to Halliburton, that might get through to him! Carter registers enough of that to question why Junior is spending any time with Lynch, before recalling that his father owned stock in Grumman, another military contractor. That brings to minds thoughts of his Grandfather, who once told him that his father lacked character. "Grandpa was a lion" he whispers to himself, a trait he clearly wishes he had himself. Which is when the cruelest thing possible happens. Junior tells him he is very smart, and credits him for his good spelling: it's exactly the kind of gesture Carter wanted from his father, and a sign that Junior actually was listening when he told him the story about the 96 on his spelling test. But the kind gesture, offered far too late, is spoiled by the fact that Junior calls him Anthony. That's the even sadder thing, Tony once begged Junior to explain why in his dementia he only remembered the bad things, why he couldn't pay him a compliment, didn't he love him? Now, here in this moment, Junior finally offers kind words and encouragement to Tony... but it's not Tony he's talking to. It's two sad, lonely men estranged from their families who can't find respite in their own mentor/protege relationship, and can't even find equilibrium in their own minds. Paulie, for all that he is alone, at least retains his full faculties. On the Sea Vous Play, Paulie has regathered himself somewhat as he prepares a big meal of Rigatoni for them to enjoy as they fish. He brings it out to Tony, cracking some bad jokes before settling down in the chair and rubbing his belly uncomfortably. Tony notices he is not eating and Paulie explains he has a bad stomach, and Tony looks at... and past him to the hatchet set on the interior of a railing. Turning back to Paulie, he tells him he thought he saw a whale earlier, perking Paulie up immediately until Tony jokes that it reminded him of Ginny Sack. Paulie offers a weak and nervous laugh at this bad joke, already primed with thoughts of Pussy's death. Tony keeps pushing, saying that Ralphie's joke was hilarious no matter what John complained about, and cracks another bad joke at Ginny's expense. Paulie's uneasy laughter isn't the reaction Tony is looking for, so he just comes right out with it: it was Paulie who told Johnny, right? He insists it is no big deal if it was, which is generally when you know something is absolutely a big deal, but Paulie doesn't take the bait, simply saying that he can only assume John heard through the grapevine. Tony doesn't push it for now, and feeling slightly more comfortable Paulie meets him halfway that he agrees that Ralphie himself was funny, without admitting the joke itself was. He reminds Tony of the time he hit Georgie in the eye with the chain during his Gladiator fixation, laughing happily at that brutal bit of physical violence. Tony wants to get back on script though, saying he'd have loved to see Johnny Sack's face when he heard that joke, complaining that John always looked down on them because he didn't cheat on Ginny. Paulie feels safe enough to agree that Johnny had a stick up his rear end, but he's still not admitting what Tony wants him to admit, so Tony gets cruel. "No offense," he says, which is when you know something offensive is going to be said,"But you ever had yourself checked for Tourette's?" Paulie is astonished as Tony parodies his laugh, but he seems more hurt than offended. He simply states that for all he knows it's just a tic, like how some people grind their teeth when they're nervous. Tony, determined beyond all reason now to force an admission on something that at this point is utterly meaningless, puts on a big fake smile and tells Paulie to just admit it, he told John about the joke, right? Paulie, keeping as straight a face as possible, looking as serious as possible, looks Tony in the eye and lies with utter sincerity that it wasn't him. He knows he's lying, but he also knows that it is something he can never admit to, even if he wasn't half-convinced that Tony chartered this boat so he could kill him. They sit in silence for a few moments, then Tony asks if he'd like a drink. Paulie agrees, and Tony stands and walks behind him. Paulie gets up to check on the fishing rods, and in those moments Tony truly, genuinely considers it. He looks at Paulie's proximity to the railing, he looks at the vast expanse of empty ocean, he eyes the sharp knife down near the cooler full of alcohol. It would be so easy, he'd never have to hear Paulie's laugh again, he'd never have to worry about him telling the right story to the wrong person, he'd never have to face up to the fact that another giant of his youth is being ravaged by the inexorable advance of time just like Livia and Junior were. He considers, and he rejects, but he does so with reluctance. His love/dedication for Paulie outweighs his current disdain, but in true Tony fashion he is upset at Paulie for this very fact. Lifting up a bottle of Stewarts, he tosses it at Paulie with a quick,"Think fast!", smirking nastily as he saunters back to his chair and Paulie - who half-suspected but probably couldn't bring himself to truly believe his life was in danger - complains that the bottle hitting his chest hurt.   Junior sits with the other patients enjoying a singalong of Take Me Home, Country Roads. Carter watches from a distance, and cheekily gets the notion to toss paper at the caregiver leading the singalong, unknowingly echoing Meadow Soprano's drunken antics at the function after Jackie Aprile Jr's death. Junior, who was the target that day, sees it happen and turns to look at who is responsible. Spotting Carter, he shakes his head angrily at him and turns back to his singing. Carter, who expected approval or mirth from Junior for flouting authority, becomes enraged at this "betrayal". He launches himself through the sitting patients, knocking down Professor Lynch in the process, grabs Junior and drills him right in the face with a punch. Junior crashes to the ground and Carter is immediately on him as the other patients shout in alarm, surprise and in some cases delight. Orderlies rush into the room and haul him off as he is choking Junior and slamming his head against the wall, dragging him away. Junior Soprano, once considered the Boss of the DiMeo Crime Family, is left laying in a heap on the ground. Paulie returns to his home in Newark, calling out a greeting to his empty home and asking what he needs to do to get something to eat. But his jokes turns into unnerving reality, there's somebody in the kitchen. Grabbing a baseball bat from the corner, he walks into the kitchen where he sees him: Pussy Bonpensiero. His dead friend is standing at the stove preparing a meal, turning to stare blank-faced at the close friend who took an active part in murdering him. "When my time comes, tell me... will I stand up?" Paulie asks. He wakes, in his own bed, morning sunlight streaming through. Moving into the lounge of the house that sits empty of everything but the ghosts in his mind, he pushes himself relentlessly to lift barbells, fighting the losing battle over the slow decline of a body that was once as hard as a rock. It's all he's got, there is no wife or domestic partner to share his fears with: will I stand up? he asked, and the man he asked died asking if he could sit down. What does the question mean? Will he die with dignity? Will he face death down with the same reckless bravery he showed when he went right up to the Cubans? Or will his body fail him, will he become another Junior or even a Larry Boy? Will he prove true to Tony's fear that he won't stand up to a test of his loyalty? We can't know for sure, and Paulie probably doesn't entirely know either, and with nobody to talk to, nobody else can help him either. Tony also leaves his bed in his own home, back now having yet again escaped from repercussions for his actions, these ones from 25 years in the past. In the kitchen, Carmela is shaking her head in disbelief at a gift sent to them by Paulie: a $2000 espresso machine to replace the one that wasn't working properly at the start of the episode. "What is wrong with that man?" she asks Tony, and of course he instantly comes to his defense. Projecting his own doubts and complaints about Paulie onto his wife, he snaps at her there is nothing wrong with Paulie, it's guys like him who give them the lifestyle they enjoy! How dare But while Tony is conflicted on issues with people in his Family, the Lupertazzi Family is finally about to get some firm resolution on a long outstanding issue. Doc Santoro and his bodyguard leave a massage parlor, Doc telling his driver to take him to Jeannette's house. But instead of getting into the driver's seat, the driver... suddenly legs it, racing off down the road. Doc is confused, turning to watch him go... and seeing the three reasons why immediately. In a similar fashion to the real life assassination of Paul Castellano, Doc and his bodyguard are shot up by a team of hired killers, who escape in a car driven by Phil Leotardo's friend Butchie. Phil had told Butchie that he could never sanction the murder of a Boss, that it was wrong... but last week he also decided "No more of this." Doc's insult of eating from his plate was the final step too far, and now he has paid for it in blood. In the back of the Bada Bing, Paulie is regaling stories to Christopher (who isn't really listening) when Tony arrives, watching on television the news story about the death of Doc Santoro. Silvio correctly surmises that Phil Leotardo is in charge of the Lupertazzi Family now, something that Tony has at different times both dreaded and hoped for. Now? Who knows, Phil may not be the predictable, handleable pain in the rear end he once was. What is predictable though is Paulie, who after only the barest pause goes back to his story about the time in the early 70s he saw Joe Namath drunk as a skunk the night before a big game and realized he could make a killing betting against his team. Tony winces as he drinks his coffee, resigned now to Paulie and his big mouth just being an unchangeable part of his life. At the center, Pet Therapy is taking place, something Junior Soprano once used as the setting for a joke at Warren the Orderly's expense. Now as various patients sit with cats and dogs and turtles enjoying the simple joy of petting and holding them, they're joined by a new participant. Junior Soprano sits in a wheelchair, one arm in a cast, listlessly petting the cat sitting on his lap. His glasses are cracked, his face is bruised, and his gaze is 1000 miles away. He gains no pleasure from this therapy, he gains nothing. The beating has hammered home yet again his diminished status in the world, as well as seemingly exacerbated his mental decline. Even the forgetful, agitated Junior Soprano seems to be gone, replaced by a sad old man who doesn't even have himself.   Season 6: Soprano Home Movies | Stage 5 | Remember When | Chasing It | Walk Like a Man | Kennedy and Heidi | The Second Coming | The Blue Comet | Made in America | The Final Scene Season 1 | Season 2 | Season 3 | Season 4 | Season 5 | Season 6.1 | Season 6.2 Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 12:06 on May 17, 2020 |
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Mar 29, 2020 10:54
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Mar 29, 2020 12:09
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The way Gandolfini can just switch from pure contempt or simmering rage to a big happy smile is amazing, and I love that when he smiles like this is often far more terrifying than when he's in a violent rage.
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Mar 29, 2020 12:34
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I love the handheld camera work they do on the boats. We have the pussy boat trip, the boat trip where tony confronts Artie, this boat trip. All of them are incredibly disorienting.
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Mar 29, 2020 18:06
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Yeah Gandolfini acts the hell out of that boat scene. The menace he projects is pretty terrifying.
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Mar 29, 2020 22:56
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So I remember something about this episode. It came out a week or so after the Virginia Tech massacre, of course perpetrated by Seung-Hui Cho. Someone speculated that it seemed there was a storyline about Carter's father that might have been dropped as a result of the recent headlines. Whaddya think? The reason Carter is in there is never explicitly stated. And since it was mentioned, it does feel a little incomplete and less fleshed out than is usual for this show.
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Mar 30, 2020 00:03
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I think we get enough of a glimpse of what hes in for without having to outright say it. The episodes runtime is already the longest of any other this season (except the finale) that i dont think there was much that would have been cut and none of the other scenes feel like they were added or shot after the fact to fill time. Its not like the show has shied away from mentioning school shootings before either (Chris thinking Vito Jr is gonna "pull a Columbine")
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Mar 30, 2020 00:18
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I think it's important that Carter's dad be completely absent, because that absence looms so large in Carter's mind and so drastically affects everything he does.
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Mar 30, 2020 00:30
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Jerusalem posted:The way Gandolfini can just switch from pure contempt or simmering rage to a big happy smile is amazing, and I love that when he smiles like this is often far more terrifying than when he's in a violent rage. I still love the scene where he has Jackie Jr. up against the wall in the strip club. Also darn this show for making me feel bad about Junior.
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banned from Starbucks posted:I think we get enough of a glimpse of what hes in for without having to outright say it. The episodes runtime is already the longest of any other this season (except the finale) that i dont think there was much that would have been cut and none of the other scenes feel like they were added or shot after the fact to fill time. Its not like the show has shied away from mentioning school shootings before either (Chris thinking Vito Jr is gonna "pull a Columbine") But, anyway, back on topic, I think Carter was a great one-off character and it just goes to show you, the quality of this show's writing, that this one-off character is so multi-dimensional and interesting, a great foil for Junior. Jerusalem posted:I think it's important that Carter's dad be completely absent, because that absence looms so large in Carter's mind and so drastically affects everything he does. Honestly have to say I empathize a lot with Carter. I'm gonna be dumping unorganized thoughts in this thread because I am doing several things at once. - Paulie's reaction to Beansie's condition is hilarious in a morbid way. Beansie is the one suffering and Paulie makes it all about him. "Kill me now!" - The Dick Cheney scene is so goddamn funny escape artist fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Mar 30, 2020 |
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Mar 30, 2020 00:32
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Vichan posted:
His easy approach to menace is so in line with his IRL demeanor as a big lovable teddy bear of a guy. Like, he just draws on himself and refracts his behavior through a lens of power and it's truly jarring when he dials up the ready-to-snap monster vs. affability vibe. I just read that he was originally cast for John Turturro's role as the public defender in The Night Of. Woulda loved to see him stretch a little like that.
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Pissed Ape Sexist posted:His easy approach to menace is so in line with his IRL demeanor as a big lovable teddy bear of a guy. Like, he just draws on himself and refracts his behavior through a lens of power and it's truly jarring when he dials up the ready-to-snap monster vs. affability vibe. I remember reading Gandolfini was initially leery of the role because he didn't like the idea of all the violence.
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Pissed Ape Sexist posted:I just read that he was originally cast for John Turturro's role as the public defender in The Night Of. Woulda loved to see him stretch a little like that. That show had such a strong start and ended up so disappointing, but man I would have loved to have seen Gandolfini in that role. All the scenes with the cat would have been the best 
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Jerusalem posted:That show had such a strong start and ended up so disappointing, but man I would have loved to have seen Gandolfini in that role. All the scenes with the cat would have been the best 
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Mar 30, 2020 02:26
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One thing this episode has that confuses me a little bit, is Beansie? Like back in season 2 it seems like he was just a crooked Pizza chain owner who helped launder mob money, which is why Ritchie thought it was hilarious that he would step up to him. Or was he an active guy back in the day of Tony Sr. who was allowed to "retire" for not flipping when he and Ritchie got busted for heroin and set up a chain of pizza places as long as he let the mob launder money through them. Anyway beyond that, the entire boat ride with Paulie was one of the most tense moments in the series. After so many other murders especially with all the Ritchie foreshadowing, I honestly wonder if the decision on whether Tony kills Paulie or not on the boat ride was a last minute decision. Also for Carter, I think this does qualify that Junior went to the "Nice" Psychiatrics facility, because Carter's family is clearly rich enough to put him in the nicest place possible and I doubt that the state mental hospital is gonna be doing pet therapy. Jack2142 fucked around with this message at 09:14 on Mar 30, 2020 |
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Mar 30, 2020 09:08
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Beansie was trafficking heroin for the Jackie Sr crew in the 80s and after the bust that sent Richie Aprile to prison he decided to retire and he invested his money in the pizza shops while staying friendly with the Sopranos crew. And yeah they were like a money laundering front as well for the crew.
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Jack2142 posted:Also for Carter, I think this does qualify that Junior went to the "Nice" Psychiatrics facility, because Carter's family is clearly rich enough to put him in the nicest place possible and I doubt that the state mental hospital is gonna be doing pet therapy. Yeah, I clearly got it completely wrong in that earlier write-up and this episode really threw it into sharp relief. I went back and added an addendum to the original write up for "Mr and Mrs John Sacrimoni request..." to point out my gently caress-up. Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 11:37 on Mar 30, 2020 |
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https://twitter.com/StevieVanZandt/status/1245218862007713795 Reading this in Silvio's voice and digging it.
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