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genericnick posted:I might be wrong here but no what large language models do is take an input and predict the next token that should come after that input, it generates "new" (not really it's just mashing together what many people preciously wrote, that's why it feels familiar yet is always poo poo, you already read it somewhere else just a bit different) text. you can't translate or transcribe using that, it'll be completely wrong and there's no way for it to ever be correct cause all it does is predict the next token, it can never actually read and understand a text to translate or listen to audio to transcribe it just isn't what it does
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Nov 19, 2023 18:35
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Maed posted:no what large language models do is take an input and predict the next token that should come after that input, it generates "new" (not really it's just mashing together what many people preciously wrote, that's why it feels familiar yet is always poo poo, you already read it somewhere else just a bit different) text. you can't translate or transcribe using that, it'll be completely wrong and there's no way for it to ever be correct cause all it does is predict the next token, it can never actually read and understand a text to translate or listen to audio to transcribe it just isn't what it does you're describing an autoregressive decoder-only model, what they posted is an encoder-decoder model that specifically goes from audio to text e: nevermind i might be telling you something you already know
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Nov 19, 2023 18:39
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Shear Modulus posted:you're describing an autoregressive decoder-only model, what they posted is an encoder-decoder model that specifically goes from audio to text right and LLMs are the former but they do use the latter to train the LLM and I'm talking about LLMs having no real uses. the ai transcribing is still dogshit compared to a live stenographer let alone a transcriber doing it after the fact though and I'm not sure it can ever get better than it is now
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Nov 19, 2023 18:42
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Maed posted:right and LLMs are the former but they do use the latter to train the LLM and I'm talking about LLMs having no real uses. the ai transcribing is still dogshit compared to a live stenographer let alone a transcriber doing it after the fact though and I'm not sure it can ever get better than it is now Fair enough, I filed all the Transformer, encoder (decoder) models as LLMs, but seems your right that it's only the autoregressive ones?
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Nov 19, 2023 18:47
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ai transcriptions suck but theyre useful in the sense that i can hunt down a specific point of a conversation and thats all i really need it to do. ive never found any form of use for "ai" at work otherwise.
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Nov 19, 2023 18:50
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genericnick posted:Fair enough, I filed all the Transformer, encoder (decoder) models as LLMs, but seems your right that it's only the autoregressive ones? there's so much bullshit and jargon out there in ai stuff that it's impossible to really know what these startups are trying to do without a phd in stats I think but that's my interpretation of what chatgpt does
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Nov 19, 2023 18:52
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"language model" technically means the autoregressive next-token-prediction ones but LLM is enough of a buzzword that people are calling other things LLMs now
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Nov 19, 2023 18:54
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AI is really good at generating absolute garbage images which you can plaster on print-on-demand items so that you can carpet bomb Etsy with your trash. That's something.
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Nov 19, 2023 19:00
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there's probably a bigger market for ai porn than blockchain porn
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Nov 19, 2023 19:02
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did they ever make vr porn? that's probably why metaverse never caught on
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Nov 19, 2023 19:03
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Shear Modulus posted:did they ever make vr porn? that's probably why metaverse never caught on nah, no one ever thought of that
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Nov 19, 2023 19:04
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taqueso posted:nah, no one ever thought of that too bad zuckerberg has never hosed or else he would have thought of it
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Nov 19, 2023 19:05
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Shear Modulus posted:did they ever make vr porn? that's probably why metaverse never caught on yea they did i think its tremendously expensive to make though or there was not a huge market ai porn is terrifying and already exists. it basically a consent laundering machine. its not technically the person because AI "generated" it. probably one of the most disgusting things in the universe.
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Nov 19, 2023 19:06
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anime was right posted:yea they did i think its tremendously expensive to make though or there was not a huge market Yeah and someone posted an article itt saying andressen horowitz was funding most of it, which is unsurprising
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Nov 19, 2023 19:08
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Maed posted:no what large language models do is take an input and predict the next token that should come after that input, it generates "new" (not really it's just mashing together what many people preciously wrote, that's why it feels familiar yet is always poo poo, you already read it somewhere else just a bit different) text. you can't translate or transcribe using that, it'll be completely wrong and there's no way for it to ever be correct cause all it does is predict the next token, it can never actually read and understand a text to translate or listen to audio to transcribe it just isn't what it does it can translate from Turkish pretty well, better than other machine translators and even a lot of humans at parsing and expressing idioms. and Turkish students are using it to make their stuff sound better in English. the next word is dependent not only on the previous word but on a moving window of multiple words. mawarannahr has issued a correction as of 20:35 on Nov 19, 2023 |
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Nov 19, 2023 20:32
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Shear Modulus posted:did they ever make vr porn? that's probably why metaverse never caught on It could maybe work if there was hardware that could generate realistic visuals in an interactive space to make it more like a video game. From what I understand though it's mostly just 360 video. Which if you've used Google Cardboard or whatever, you get why that doesn't really work. The promise of AI porn is not passively spinning in a circle and not interacting with anything.
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Nov 19, 2023 20:35
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the question is can humanity hold on long enough for teledildonics to come into our own
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Nov 19, 2023 20:49
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can we hold on long enough for money to become irrelevant (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nov 19, 2023 20:50
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111923 posted:can we hold on long enough for money to become irrelevant - guy who spends money
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Nov 19, 2023 20:51
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longevity = change
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Nov 19, 2023 20:56
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Mustached Demon posted:The predictive modeling part and decision making is useful for stuff like healthcare to maximize profits It doesn't take much "intelligence" to auto-deny claims
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Nov 19, 2023 21:00
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is the electricity used to operate an AI transcription model more expensive than the regular kind of exploitative service like Fiverr like I feel like the AI evangelist set doesn't grasp how cheap human labor is, already.
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Nov 19, 2023 21:18
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ai is good actually https://cdn1.suno.ai/1809c58b-4e28-42f8-b46d-bf3453807c63_1.mp4
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Nov 19, 2023 21:25
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Nothus posted:They also have to make transit as miserable as possible I spend a lot of time thinking about that Galts gulch comic strip, with the flower being pissed that they’re having to till their own fields.
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Nov 19, 2023 21:38
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Mola Yam posted:ai is good actually Counterpoint: https://open.substack.com/pub/freddiedeboer/p/where-are-the-ai-skepticism-stories?r=1r645q&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
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Nov 19, 2023 22:31
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DrPossum posted:Crossposting from the "something got shittier" thread trying to stop peopole from taking the banana discount? or spyware on the phone to sell to 3rd party advertisers?
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Nov 19, 2023 22:53
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genericnick posted:I might be wrong here but whisper saves a poo poo ton of time for transcribing. It’s of course not perfect like any ai poo poo and will hallucinate stuff, which is why you reread/listen to what it transcribed. The one person I know who uses it frequently enough says it accelerated the speed at which they are able to transcribe stuff by about 150%.
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Nov 19, 2023 22:55
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jemand posted:trying to stop peopole from taking the banana discount? or spyware on the phone to sell to 3rd party advertisers? Both.
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Nov 19, 2023 22:56
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Skaffen-Amtiskaw posted:Counterpoint: https://open.substack.com/pub/freddiedeboer/p/where-are-the-ai-skepticism-stories?r=1r645q&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post Good article but he undercuts it by taking some random swipes at tiktok at the end.
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Nov 19, 2023 23:07
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Penisaurus Sex posted:is the electricity used to operate an AI transcription model more expensive than the regular kind of exploitative service like Fiverr they use cheap exploitative labor to help train the model, also stolen labor
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Nov 19, 2023 23:52
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jemand posted:trying to stop peopole from taking the banana discount? or spyware on the phone to sell to 3rd party advertisers? is the banana discount some type of shoplifting metaphor?
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Nov 19, 2023 23:56
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triple sulk posted:is the banana discount some type of shoplifting metaphor?
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Nov 19, 2023 23:58
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Xaris posted:yeah sort of. an earlier self-checkout trick was ringing up items as bananas. back when they rolled them out thinking they could abolish all their cashier labor immediately i just ask because back when it existed, r/shoplifting consistently said that under no circumstances should you ever steal from target
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Nov 20, 2023 00:02
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Argentina elects 'shock therapy' libertarian Javier Milei as president https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/argentina-readies-vote-likely-presidential-election-thriller-2023-11-19/ The weird libertarian parallel universe Tucker Carlson won in Argentina 
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Nov 20, 2023 00:13
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Oh great, now we get to see how incredibly powerful an economy can be when libertarian policy fully unleashes its potential!
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Nov 20, 2023 00:55
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[grand] It's potential of 3 posts per hour!
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Nov 20, 2023 00:56
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triple sulk posted:i just ask because back when it existed, r/shoplifting consistently said that under no circumstances should you ever steal from target I have no direct knowledge of this, but here, or somewhere similar I read that Target let’s people steal until they have hit a felony charge. Then security turns everything over to the cops.
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Nov 20, 2023 01:01
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Target (based in Minnesota) was specifically targeted during the George Floyd protests because they're such assholes about criminalizing everything
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Nov 20, 2023 01:05
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Orvin posted:I have no direct knowledge of this, but here, or somewhere similar I read that Target let’s people steal until they have hit a felony charge. Then security turns everything over to the cops. yup that's what I read too
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Nov 20, 2023 01:09
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https://twitter.com/LordOrk/status/1726157332420133299?t=utS8y3t1PwrtCUID36DWZg&s=19
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