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Master of None
Nov 4, 2011
Voting for Junk Food Tax.

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GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice
Since my question was never answered before:

JGBeagle posted:

If I voted to reduce legalization down to LSD, would I be starting at one vote again? Because I don't agree with heroin and cocaine being legal.

Mostly because I don't want to vote for it and have it end back up at just one measly vote.

Covski
Jun 24, 2007

Bringing the forums together with the greatest thread!
Sorry!

Yeah, votes for any proposals conflicting with those that are implemented are reset to zero. (this is to avoid a situation where an implemented proposal could be canceled or reverted the very next turn, if the votes were very close)

Btw, Age of Wonders III is a p great game if any of you were wondering :)

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice

Covski posted:

Sorry!

Yeah, votes for any proposals conflicting with those that are implemented are reset to zero. (this is to avoid a situation where an implemented proposal could be canceled or reverted the very next turn, if the votes were very close)

Btw, Age of Wonders III is a p great game if any of you were wondering :)

Well gently caress.

Let's :regd08: then, monorail.

Samari45
Oct 15, 2012
Gonna stick with remove restrictions on abortions.

Charlie72
Apr 21, 2010
MONORAIL!

Covski
Jun 24, 2007

Bringing the forums together with the greatest thread!
A note on the last vote: Since there were two opposing proposals for the drug tax, I decided to count the votes of those who didn't specify (Nyaa, Banemaster, Mycroft Holmes) for the maximum drug tax proposal. If you did in fact prefer the other proposal, tell me and I'll retroactively recount before the next vote.

Also some of you voted for two things - still only one vote per person, unless you are awarded a Party Title (by competition or arbitrary decision). I only counted the vote for the first policy in your post.

:siren:Turn 6!:siren:

The final tally:

More prostitution! 12 PC, no budget change - (15)+5=20 votes
Haifisch, Lord Tywin, Aesculus, Wagrid, Caufman
Implement state housing, 13 PC, -17.13 Bn per quarter - (11)+3=14 votes
Perestroika, TaurusTorus, SirArthurIV
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Monorail!, 14 PC, -8.15 Bn per quarter - (9)+4=13 votes
TravelLog, anilEhilated, JGBeagle, Charlie72
Remove restrictions on abortion, 26 PC, no budget change Bn per quarter - (6)+2=8 votes
Tetrodo, Samari45
Implement Recreational Drugs Tax, maximum level, 8 PC, +6,59 Bn per quarter - (2)+5=7 votes
CommissarMega, kaiten80, Nyaa, Banemaster, Mycroft Holmes
Implement Recreational Drugs Tax, 2/3 of max, 8 PC, +4.8 Bn per quarter - 4 votes
Senerio, TheMcD, Broenheim, Nuramor
Enact Labour Day Bank Holiday, 3 PC, no budget change - 3 votes
Geokinesis, Eumenides, Torrannor
Implement Junk Food Tax, maximum level, 6 PC, +320 Mn per quarter - (2)+1=3 votes
Master of None,
Increase Dinking Age to 21, 2/3 of max, 13 PC, no budget change - 2 votes
Robhol, paragon1
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Expand Rail Funding, 10 PC, -4,17 Bn per quarter - (5) votes
Implement Mansion Tax, 26 PC, +6.40 Bn per quarter - (3) votes
Implement Foreign Investor Tax Breaks, 10 PC, -9,5 Bn per quarter - (1) vote
Implement universal organ donation, 13 PC, -36 Mn per quarter - (1) vote



The LFAP finally manage to implement the last part of their "Less booze, more drugs and hookers"-platform. There is the usual discontent from the expected groups, but the party leadership is unfazed.



The liberal party wing's success is followed by another victory for the socialist faction of the party with the implementation of a popular program for state housing, to combat the problems with poverty and homelessness. Some critique is directed at the expensiveness of the program in the uncertain economic climate, but the proponents insists that the long term effects will outweigh any costs.



Unfortunately, the start of the next quarter is unauspicious, however.



There is dissent among the ranks, as one of the few ministers with capitalist-conservative sympathies informs the party leadership that she is having an increasingly hard time seeing a future for her in the government.



The slight market upturn last quarter turns out to have been merely the calm before the storm, as another global market crisis hits.



The sudden influx of cheap drugs is starting to take a toll on productivity and health throughout the country, further fueling the anger of the parents.



Despite the market crash and the expensive housing programs, Germany is still showing a healthy surplus.



Alcohol taxes are still the third largest source of income, despite the declining consumption.



The state housing program makes a large dent in the budget however, being the fourth biggest expense.



The LFAP's approval ratings drop by ten percent, mostly due to the loss of support from parental groups.



The drop in homelessness is already becoming apparent, however.



And the alcohol problems decline once more, though the renewed economic crisis is of course a factor.



The disloyalty of minister Mayer is becoming a problem.



A short list of potential replacements have been compiled. Replacing Mayer will cause a drop of loyalty with all other ministers, but it is preferable to her causing a scandal. Some suggest that keeping her around by throwing the capitalist-conservatives a bone could be preferable as she is a pacifying influence on them, but it is entirely possible that it may already be too late.

:siren:Legislation time!:siren:

What to do about our Foreign Minister?

Keep her around!
or
Replace her - Specify with whom!

On the agenda:

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Monorail!, 14 PC, -8.15 Bn per quarter - (13) votes
Remove restrictions on abortion, 26 PC, no budget change Bn per quarter - (8) votes
Implement Recreational Drugs Tax, maximum level, 8 PC, +6,59 Bn per quarter - (7) votes
Implement Recreational Drugs Tax, 2/3 of max, 8 PC, +4.8 Bn per quarter - (4) votes
Enact Labour Day Bank Holiday, 3 PC, no budget change - (3) votes
Implement Junk Food Tax, maximum level, 6 PC, +320 Mn per quarter - (3) votes
Increase Dinking Age to 21, 2/3 of max, 13 PC, no budget change - (2) votes
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The deadline for this vote will be on sunday, 1PM (GMT). This will also be the deadline for submissions to the logo competition!

Covski fucked around with this message at 11:56 on Apr 2, 2014

TaurusTorus
Mar 27, 2010

Grab the bullshit by the horns

Keep her no need upsetting the other ministers in these chaotic times. Maximum Drug Tax now that they're legal, they gotta start pulling their weight.

Banemaster
Mar 31, 2010
Why would we keep someone who opposes all our policies? Kick her out! Edit. I will join the most popular vote on the follower.

And maximize drug taxes.

Banemaster fucked around with this message at 13:00 on Apr 2, 2014

TheMcD
May 4, 2013

Monaca / Subject N 2024
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Despair will never let you down.
Malice will never disappoint you.

Replace her with Nadine Günther. We're just going to keep pissing those guys off, no need to wait until the breaking point.

And let's get going on those maximum drug taxes.

Robhol
Oct 9, 2012
Replace her with Nadine Gunther. She seems like she'll be fairly loyal.

Also, 2/3 drug tax.

Nyaa
Jan 7, 2010
Like, Nyaa.

:colbert:
Replace everyone with capitalist tendency!

Max drug tax!

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
Replace the bitch with Walter since she'll be sympathetic to the Monorail I keep trying to build.

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011
Replace with Nadine

And Tax drugs to 2/3rds. Too high and we risk them simply going back to the crims, after all. We can always raise them later once we've killed off the black market.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Is Democracy able to simulate how state governments have minds of their own when you're playing as the United States, or is it just federal level management only with maybe some random events tossed in?

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Roëmænce is ælive!

Robhol posted:

Replace her with Nadine Gunther. She seems like she'll be fairly loyal.

Also, 2/3 drug tax.

I'll vote this

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

Replace! You'd think the capitalists would approve of legalized prostitution.

2/3 drug tax sounds good to me.

FairyNuff
Jan 22, 2012

Shuffle the Cabinet and enact Labour day at FULL POWER.

A_Raving_Loon
Dec 12, 2008

Subtle
Quick to Anger
Replace with Robin Muller, and Start Reducing Debt.

Eastbound Spider
Jan 2, 2011



Hey, Covski, what is the deal with Trade Council?


Also: 2/3 tax drug!

TravelLog
Jul 22, 2013

He's a mean one, Mr. Roy.
Replace with Herr Muller

Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender
2/3 drug tax, and replace her with Günther.

SirArthurIV
Feb 15, 2014
2/3 drug tax and Keep her. Much like Lincoln, it's good to have one enemy on your cabnet to placate your opponents :jerkbag:

Wagrid
Mar 15, 2014

Just a perfectly normal farm hand.
Increased prostitution finally passed! Hurray! I vote for the removal of restrictions on abortion and that we replace our Foreign Minister with Nadine Günther.

Wagrid fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Apr 2, 2014

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
Replace her with Gunther, Maximize the drug tax. Hopefully that will bring down drug use so that it stops being a problem (it won't). Our GDP is going to be in the toilet forever now. :smith:

Also the black market isn't simulated at all. All voting for 2/3 does is limit the (very dubious) benefits of legalizing drugs and then taxing them.

paragon1 fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Apr 2, 2014

Covski
Jun 24, 2007

Bringing the forums together with the greatest thread!

Bobbin Threadbare posted:

Is Democracy able to simulate how state governments have minds of their own when you're playing as the United States, or is it just federal level management only with maybe some random events tossed in?

Nope, for the purposes of the game the government is basically omnipotent, except for the constraints of political capital and ministers occasionally throwing hissyfits. I'd love to see more struggles with local governments and perhaps even intra-party politics, but I can see how that would be outside the intended focus of the series (the macro-level effects of policymaking), as well as being hell for approachability.

Eastbound Spider posted:

Hey, Covski, what is the deal with Trade Council?



The trade council is a neat little policy, being cheap both in euros as well as PC. (I also like the icon with the little guys in hats)



It provides a boost to international trade as well as foreign relations (which also boosts foreign trade).



A reminder about the international trade statistic - its main function is boosting GDP, though it also increases air travel which is bad for the environment.

Eumenides
Sep 24, 2007

This is the face of Lawful Good!

Fun Shoe
Voting for maximum drug tax to keep our poors from getting a new kind of alcoholism and ruining the economy. As to our minister I think we should replace her with Dame Gunther. Her loyalty and political capital will serve to outweigh her inexperience, plus she's close to some of our most fervent supporters.

Edit: Changed my vote, insulted poors

Eumenides fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Apr 4, 2014

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice
Max drug tax, those heroin addicts aren't gonna get a free ride. :colbert:

xelada
Dec 21, 2012

paragon1 posted:

Replace her with Gunther, Maximize the drug tax. Hopefully that will bring down drug use so that it stops being a problem (it won't). Our GDP is going to be in the toilet forever now. :smith:

Also the black market isn't simulated at all. All voting for 2/3 does is limit the (very dubious) benefits of legalizing drugs and then taxing them.

As far as I'm aware it somewhat does, but only for when drugs are banned, so we may as well Max out drug Taxes.

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

---FAGNER---
TEAM-MATE

Bobbin Threadbare posted:

Is Democracy able to simulate how state governments have minds of their own when you're playing as the United States, or is it just federal level management only with maybe some random events tossed in?

I just want you to know that Germany has states as well, so we would have already encountered this problem.

Replace her with Gunther, 2/3 drug tax.

Caufman
May 7, 2007
A traitorous minister?? Execute the whole drat cabinet!!

Covski posted:

More prostitution! 12 PC, no budget change - (15)+5=20 votes
Haifisch, Lord Tywin, Aesculus, Wagrid, Caufman



Now I can retire from professional politics.

flerp
Feb 25, 2014
Replace with Gunther If she can't see the crack and hooker filled utopia we are creating, then she can leave!
Then, Drug taxes to the 2/3rd. Once we get money and the monorails going, my "Coke, hookers, and monorails" tourist plan will come to fruition, and we will be the most beloved tourist attraction in the entire world.

Ahundredbux
Oct 25, 2007

The right to bear arms
Destroy the unloyal minister and hire Nadine Günther for her supreme loyalty.


Also another vote for the trifecta of tourism, Monorails!

CaptainSweden
May 3, 2012
MAXIMIZE DRUG TAX Drugs should be handled just like alcohol.

KEEP MINISTER It is best not to rock the boat.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Replace her with Günther

Implement the drüg tax at maximum. An amazing high is a privilege, not a right.

Wagrid
Mar 15, 2014

Just a perfectly normal farm hand.

Caufman posted:

A traitorous minister?? Execute the whole drat cabinet!!

Covski posted:


More prostitution! 12 PC, no budget change - (15)+5=20 votes
Haifisch, Lord Tywin, Aesculus, Wagrid, Caufman



Now I can retire from professional politics.

We did it! We finally did it!

Wagrid fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Apr 3, 2014

OldManMarsh
Sep 25, 2013

leeeettsss play

TheMcD posted:

Replace her with Nadine Günther. We're just going to keep pissing those guys off, no need to wait until the breaking point.

And let's get going on those maximum drug taxes.

I'm all for both of these.

Theantero
Nov 6, 2011

...We danced the Mamushka while Nero fiddled, we danced the Mamushka at Waterloo. We danced the Mamushka for Jack the Ripper, and now, Fester Addams, this Mamushka is for you....
I just love how morally uncrupulous our drug policy is. First we get everyone addicted to those sweet, untaxed drugs and then immediately turn the taxes to maximum. Like, I'm pretty sure that's similar to how actual drug dealers operate.

OldManMarsh
Sep 25, 2013

leeeettsss play
Hey now, we need something to fund our police drones and tasers, don't we? And on a less important note we need them to fund our possible future monorail as well.

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Poil
Mar 17, 2007

Bah, monorail is slow and old garbage. Invest in maglev instead. :flashfap:

Poil fucked around with this message at 15:59 on Apr 4, 2014

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