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Andyzero posted:Altera the Sun (ta) also uses the same type of voice Titan Altera uses. ....wow, I was amazingly wrong. It was still Herald Altera. Just with an "Underworld Cold" I liked my idea better.
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Andyzero posted:....wow, I was amazingly wrong. It was still Herald Altera. Just with an "Underworld Cold" It may be a small thing, but Merlin shows up late in the event and references Titan Altera pretty heavily, and extella's plot in general, so we probably haven't heard the last of Titan Altera in other worlds. Sylphid fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Dec 29, 2017 |
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For those who didn't hear, the new storyline of Fate/Grand Order that was announced yesterday, one of its chapters takes pace in 12,000 BC, right around the time Sephyr would have been wrecking poo poo up, so it's very likely a lot of extella's backstory will be relevant at the time that drops (which is probably a year or so away from now. It's not coming anytime soon). More relevant, the sequel, extella link, will see an early June release. Just from what we know now, it'll have the entire playable cast of this game + (at this time) Astolfo, Scathach, Charlemagne, and Drake as new characters. Drake was supposed to be in extella but it just wasn't meant to be. I saw it somewhere, but apparently there's 6 more characters to be revealed. Sylphid fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Dec 31, 2017 |
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War![]() Military Tactics ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Nero would be right to be wary of Seneca's explanation. Supposedly Ludus is based on the the Egyptian game senet, "but some consider this doubtful because, with the exception of limited superficial similarities between the appearance of the boards, and the use of dice, there is no known evidence linking the games. Another factor casting doubt on this link is that the latest known classical senet board is over half of a millennium older than the earliest known XII scripta board." Oh, and XII scripta is another name for the game. Easier to remember. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Yeah yeah. Hakuno didn't get to where she is by backing down, though. We'll win one of these days. ![]() The next stage is gonna be pretty tough, and you'll want to prepare anti-Fire / Poison code casts going ahead. Otherwise, when you're choosing Side Missions, you can choose from anyone on Tamamo or Nero's staffs. So if you need to raise a few bond levels, now's your chance. ![]() Golden Poem Stage 4 So in pretty typical late-game fashion, you and your allies will be under heavy attack at the start. You'll start with three Sectors under control: one is where Cu Chulainn currently is, one is where Gawain is (he'll start off under attack from Jeanne, however), and the Sector where Nero starts. There are two high-profile Sectors, one right in front of you, and the other at the bottom left of the map. While it would definitely be most prudent to attack those two Sectors, Gawain can't hold out forever. If Gawain loses his fight with Jeanne and you haven't taken over one of the high-profile areas, that's your loss. My plan of attack is to hit the nearest high-profile, take it over, then take out the Plant at the bottom of the map, THEN relieve Gawain. You have to be fast doing this, however, since Gawain can't hold out forever. As a note, the stage video features only gameplay stuff. The story cutscenes will be in their own videos. ![]() You can always count on Cu. After a certain amount of time has passed (maybe like 3-4 minutes), this scene will pop. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() What this scene means is Iskandar's calling his heavy units, and true to form, you're gonna be fighting a TON of these heavy Aggressors. Hope you like it. ![]() And yeah, while you're busy with Iskandar's armies, Nameless will point out that Gil's just quietly hanging out in the upper left. Since Gilgamesh doesn't *do* quiet, you know he's up to something. Well, his plan is to invade the sector Cu is in, and we just can't have that. We'll intercept him as soon as we're finished with Jeanne. ![]() Since you'll be fighting a lot of heavies in this stage, you'll quickly realize the importance in Nero's quick movements, since she can dash in the middle of a group of them, pull off a special attack to glide between them while doing damage. It's timing and position you'll have to make work for you, since you'll be facing groups of up to 4 or 5 of them at a time. ![]() So Jeanne again. I had a pretty easy time here, if only because Jeanne is quite slow in comparison to Nero's blazing speed. As long as you don't get caught in the blast radius of her most powerful special attacks, you won't have much to worry about. If Gawain is still standing, he'll do a good job of keeping other enemy Aggressors off your back. ![]() When it comes to Gilgamesh, Nero is definitely fast enough to allow Gilgamesh to fire some of his most powerful attacks, circle around him, and attack from behind. The problem for Nero here is her lack of power makes this quite the battle of attrition. There's really no way to get around the fact this fight will take a while, but as long as you dodge the heavies and stay focused on launching special attacks against Gil, he is also not too big of a problem. One of Gil's weaknesses is his long cooldowns between special attacks and resuming combat, so you can either use that time to break off and get some supplies or launch your own attack. As it usual, Gil will break off the fight when he gets low enough on health, but he will be back. ![]() But yeah, just look at this clown parade. Those are some pretty big punching bags. ![]() That was fast. Well, everything I said about him holds in your follow-up battle. I will not mention it further here. ![]() Well, I will mention one thing. Getting too close to his Gate of Babylon, even from behind, is a bad idea. ![]() Yikes. I came into this Sector with a full line-up of 11 Aggressors. ![]() Alright. Almost time for Iskandar to make his grand debut. And oy. Look alive, Gawain. ![]() ![]() The Path of the King of Conquerors ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Incidentally, Iskandar and the rise of Rome on the Mediterranean scene are somewhat contemporaries. Iskandar was born in 356 BC, and at the time, Rome had begun consolidating its power on the Italian peninsula. You have to keep in mind Iskandar's wars against the Achaemenid Empire were carried out over a short period of time, only 10 years. By the time Rome began looking toward the eastern Mediterranean, the remains of Alexander's empire in Egypt and southeastern Europe, they had been around for a couple centuries and were in decline, ripe for Roman plucking. Alexander himself probably was not familiar with anything going on west of Greece, and even at death he seemed mostly uninterested in European affairs (such as they were, and supposedly the campaign he was planning at the time of his death in Babylon were expeditions into what's now the Arabian peninsula), but Rome was a significant power by the time of his death in 323. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Fun fact: Nero and Iskandar were explicitly designed to be similar in character. Iskandar's character in Fate/zero made such an impression on Nasu (zero was written by his buddy Gen Urobuchi), that Nasu wanted a character who was pretty similar to him, and out of that desire came Nero. Type-Moon Ace 7 posted:Q: Having the "black" one as the main character and the "white" one as the villain is a refreshing idea. Then, how about the red Saber (Saber Extra), who appeared in Fate/Extra? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Jeanne is right there. There's always something fun about the overly-earnest person clashing with the dude not taking things too seriously. ![]() A lot to take in there. Besides the obvious CCC reference, it does lend credence to the supposition he wasn't making excuses to Altera back when he joined in the Dawn Arc, since he has nothing to justify to Jeanne regarding his current state of affairs, and that he does feel at least somewhat obligated to defend the honor of Urukians such as himself. For the record, Gilgamesh's 1/3rd human side comes from his father's side of his parentage. His "I cannot see what the end entails" is, I believe, a reference to Gilgamesh's Clairvoyance skill he actually has, but doesn't typically show. He's capable of quite a bit of foresight as to what will happen in the near future, but it's not something he can display as well as some others, but some accurate future-sight is possible. An EX rank in this particular skill would let the user see both the distant past and future with near perfect clarity. When Gilgamesh manifests as a Caster, he exercises it a bit more. On a final note, I love his "profound ennui" line. He's like "I did mention how spectacularly bored I was, right?" ![]() ![]() ![]() Getting back to business, it's getting a little crowded in here, and basically everywhere the enemy still holds court. This is primarily what makes fighting Iskandar on this stage tough, just that there's so many enemies he can easily pull out some of his most devastating special moves and get you with those. You'll want to start attacks a fair bit away from the mass of enemy heavies, just so that your special attacks will do the most damage to the largest number of them. ![]() And keep in mind, these heavies have a lot of health. Enough to withstand an un-upgraded Noble Phantasm. ![]() That is indeed a mighty chariot. He pretty much just drops it on top of a target. Embarrassingly, I deleted the source video / battle video before I realized I posted a copy of the chariot screenshot here, so I'll just leave you with this as my finishing blow against Iskandar - Shoryureppa! Fill in the blanks for yourself. ![]() Top Servants ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I knew we'd been missing something... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Well yeah, she knows just when to arrive to ruin things, so yeah, I would think so. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() What can you say? Idol business is cutthroat. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() So I dunno what was going for me this time, but this fight was really easy for me. Elizabeth could barely even attack. ![]() She really was just an extended punching bag. Quite a sad showing for the idol. ![]() ![]() The door to the Zero Dark ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() For a pretty tough stage, just length-wise, that's about as I can do. Side missions were also a perfect 5/5. Sylphid fucked around with this message at 09:02 on Jan 3, 2018 |
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Sylphid posted:
Once again, with the fate of the world at stake, Nero is busy thinking about how hot her enemy is. Well, at least this time she saved it for after the fight.
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Home![]() Roman luxury ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Yeah, seriously. Just because you're dealing with Nero doesn't mean she's ALWAYS making euphemisms. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Let's cut to the chase. Imagine hating life so much you picked, and meant, option number two. ![]() Well, that's the idea. But now it's bedtime. ![]() Saving a girl ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() And then, in the darkness of the Moon... The Cyber Frame that holds the memories of the White Titan is all that's left. That which was left in the Zero Dark, forgotten by the Umbral Star as it headed into the sea of stars beyond. That which only exists to wait 14,000 years for the return of the Umbral Star. Without anyone to talk to. Without any outside interference. Without anything to do. Trapped in a cold cavern, little different from a coffin. The sweet embrace of sleep would ahve been a luxury. The Cyber Frame held life, intelligence, and all the necessary parts to function, but never knew sleep. Its brain never had a chance to rest. Without sleep, without dreams, without moving the slightest in the dark, without seeing anything. Only reflecting on the memories it had of destroying the Earth alone. All that time, in the place where it had no input or output, that Cyber Frame... There it's remained for eons. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() It's interesting how many things I'll look up to fact check this game. Sol was indeed regarded as the Roman sun god (to be identified with the Greek Helios, of course. As a fun aside, one of Helios' children was the witch Circe, who recently became a playable Servant in Grand Order). For a while it was thought there were two Roman sun gods, with two names, one preceeding another. Sol Indiges was supposedly the first Sol, and the Syrian Sol Invictus being the second one. However, there was no real continuity break between the early and late Roman Sols, and thus, it always seems to have been the same deity. ![]() Now's no time to joke around, and I suppose 2 would be more accurate, but let's say the third. Maybe Nero saw it too. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() This all is referring to the cavern where Titan Altera is sleeping. You'll recall that the Umbral Star buried a piece of itself into the Moon Cell, which gave rise to what's now referred to as the Zero Dark. We...haven't seen that one yet. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Ruminations ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() That's probably what he was getting at. Karna can be an odd guy, but inanities are something he does not bother himself with. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Alexander really is one of the particular figures in history who became a legend pretty much instantly. Granted, you don't need to exaggerate about the deeds of a guy like Alexander the Great, since what we know of what the man accomplished is already staggering enough, but for a guy to be be universally regarded as The Real Deal so quickly after his own life and death is pretty amazing. ![]() ![]() ![]() Ah, Caligula. A complicated fellow, and probably one we'll never know the full story behind. As Hakuno was saying, from what of the record remains Caligula was initially thought of quite postively, but within a few years descended into the depravity and madness that's become his defining legacy. Suetonius and Cassius Dio are the major sources on his life, along with, of lesser-importance on the man, Philo of Alexandria, Josephus, Seneca, and Pliny the Elder. Suetonius said he had some form of epilepsy, and, possibly related, could not swim. Suetonius is also the source of the claim that Caligula talked to the Moon, which is where Fate/Grand Order gets off classifying him as a Berserker associated with the Moon (with the added historical precedent of the Moon being identified with insanity). Overall, I'm liable to believe that Caligula probably went as insane as he's associated with popularly, but some of the tales of his depravity were probably invented long after the fact by the political enemies of Caligula that he naturally generated (he was assassinated by the Praetorian Guard, after all). The two major sources on Caligula's life were writing 80 and 180 years after his life, respectively, so it's probable they were working off only the most notorious stories from his life. Certainly not a guy with too many friends in his later years, that's for sure. Knowing the real Caligula is tough because like many other such ancient figures, a lot of what's supposedly known about him is from many decades after the fact (or centuries, in unluckier cases), and how much of what got written down was ancient Pop History and what actually known about specific people is in unknown quantities. ![]() ![]() Hey, it's family. ![]() Sylphid fucked around with this message at 10:00 on Jan 10, 2018 |
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Incidentally, Nero's birth father was also a major rear end in a top hat. He stole prizes from winning chariot racers at the Circus Maximus, ran over a child with his chariot while on the road, ripped a man's eye out during an argument and murdered one of his former slaves for not getting drunk enough at a party. After he died, his mother married the Emperor, her own uncle. The Julio-Claudians were real winners.
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Don't forget that Caligula's father was poisoned on Tiberius' orders, and the guy was forced to live with the sadistic pedophile killer of his father, that would hosed anyone up - no one has any real idea why Caligula suddenly went mad, some think it's syphillis, or lead poisoning from wine (that's how Romans made wine sweet, but sprinkling lead into it), or Meningitis causing brain damage. Or given the whole family, probably some unknown hereditary mental illness manifested then. Gaius Octavius is basically the only member who really got his head on straight, Claudius is still very much an enigma.
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They also ate food cooked in lead vessels and had water brought in through lead pipes. Lead poisoning is a hell of a thing.
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Vadoc posted:They also ate food cooked in lead vessels and had water brought in through lead pipes. Lead poisoning is a hell of a thing. Also, this wasn't a case of the Romans not knowing the dangers: they knew quite well that lead poisoning was a thing, and they decided it was worth it, because lead was so convenient and there were still lots of people who didn't die from it.
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So now that I'll be getting back to work on the LP (after the most recent FGO event), it's time for a Thread Decision. After the next two updates, I'll be going into the Side-Stories. Naturally I'm doing all of them, but I'll leave who I start with up to the thread, somewhat. Here's how it goes: I'll throw out three names, you all choose one you want to see first, second, and third. Person with the most votes goes first (tiebreakers decided by me), second place goes next, etc. So the first three candidates are: Nameless, Karna, or Iskandar, the default Swap Servants for each main heroine. No matter what the rankings for this round are, these three will be the first. The non-faction aligned Servants (the secret character, Archimedes, and Elizabeth), the 1st and Elizabeth will face off against each other, because Archimedes' ties into the main story much more than all the others do. He'll be the last. Sylphid fucked around with this message at 07:03 on Jan 20, 2018 |
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Sylphid posted:So the first three candidates are: Nameless, Karna, or Iskandar, Did you want us to order all three, or just pick one? Because if you wanted the order, go by the order listed. If you just want our top pick, go with Nameless. edit: In that case, Nameless, Karna, then Iskandar last. BlazeEmblem fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Jan 20, 2018 |
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BlazeEmblem posted:Did you want us to order all three, or just pick one? Because if you wanted the order, go by the order listed. If you just want our top pick, go with Nameless. Ah yeah, list all the choices in terms of your preference. 1st choice gets 3 points, 2nd = 2, 3rd = 1.
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I'll pick, in order, Iskandar, Nameless, and Karna since I find Iskandar to be pretty cool and Nameless a close second. Sorry, Karna.
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In order, Nameless, Iskandar, Karna.
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Nameless,, Iskandar, then Karna
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Nameless, Iskander, Karna.
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Karna, Nameless, Iskander Archerkins, he's had enough presence in F/Stay night, I'm more curious about Karna.
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Karna, Iskander, Nameless
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Current standings are: Karna: 13 Nameless: 17 Iskandar: 16 Close race between the two front-runners. This includes someone I asked privately who does read the thread.
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While the next two updates are in production, as a fun fact, Fate/EXTRA: Last Encore starts airing tomorrow. I'll be watching for many reasons.
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http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/5875-The-BAMBOO-BROOM-DIARY-%28Nasu-and-Takeuchi-blog%29?p=2800079&viewfull=1#post2800079 "Through "Last Encore", I tried to make it something that feels different depending on whether you know the premise. For the people who will watch this anime as their first "EXTRA" experience, I want this to be the starting point where they become interested in the original game and the comics (5 volumes in total, on sale from Kadokawa!)" Given how radically different CCC went, then Extella, it doesn't really surprise me. I'm betting Last Encore will tie into Extella better as a prequel.
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Dazzle![]() Behold: the last normal stage in the game. Both stages 6 and 7 of Golden Poem are boss fight stages. Let us begin. ![]() Golden Poem stage 5 (this video contains all the gameplay of the stage. Cutscenes are in separate videos) No time for cutscenes, it's time for action! The set-up is exactly the same as the penultimate stage of Flame Poem, just with Iskandar replaced with Elizabeth. As before, my advice would be to go for the closest under-attack Sector, work through the middle, then aid Gawain in fighting off Gilgamesh's attack. It's worth pointing out that enemy parameters are increased from Flame Poem, so this is gonna be a long fight. ![]() As always, as long as Gilgamesh is on the field he'll periodically attack one of your Sectors with long-range artillery, even if he's in the middle of a fight, damaging your occupying forces and making it easier for the enemy to take them over upon invasion. ![]() I actually wanted to try and fight these things properly. Attacking them ground level is pointless. You'll need to maneuver behind them and hit them with aerial attacks, which is a lot easier said than done. Even if they're in the middle on attack, they're invincible from ground attacks, not counting EMs. ![]() Cu will be our resident ally here (just like in the very first stage!), and he's pretty useful. He's quite good at quickly interrupting enemy attacks and dealing with crowds. May not have much killing power, but that's why you're here, right? ![]() Two invasions stopped before they could start. Pretty good, unfortunately, we still have Jeanne and Elizabeth on the field, and Gil Gil Man will be rejoining us shortly. Also, here's something I discovered. I thought you had to use an antidote Code Cast to get rid of the Paralysis status effect, but nope. You can use any Code Cast to rid yourself of status effects, for some reason. ![]() So, there choices here, of roughly equal importance: Elizabeth in the NE, Jeanne in the west, or Gil in the middle. I decided to go after Jeanne, but in retrospect, that was the bad decision. ![]() Because of this. The ol' dog took more damage from Gilgamesh than I thought. ![]() This late in the stage, for them to be pushing me this far... Quite a poor performance, or a pretty tough stage. I'd like to think the latter. Shortly after, I defeated the Holy Maiden, so now we can start to counterattack proper against Gilgamesh in the middle, before the damage spreads. ![]() A long fight, but it's over. We'll never have him as an enemy again...in the main story. ![]() Our fateful rematch... ![]() Went about as well for her as last time, honestly. She got in a few shots, to be fair, but she just doesn't have what it takes. Corroded Liz, like Gilgamesh, will retreat when her HP gets to a certain threshold. We are not through with her, I will tell you that. ![]() Tough battle. Well, as you might expect, there's not much else to talk about with the rest of the map, aside from my ol' "Get rid of status effects with any Code Cast" trick for the Sector Elizabeth started in, but otherwise, there's a big cutscene that occurs in the very middle Sector (the only one with a NP Circuit in it), so we'll finish the stage proper with that. ![]() The sword ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Well, we've already tried the second and the third is positively absurd. I'm not entirely sure what the Mythology Mystic Code is, but Hakuno's thinking of it, so let's see what she's talking about. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Well, she bounced back fast... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() As an aside, Elizabeth has always referred to male Hakuno as a "piggy", and female Hakuno as a "squirrel". However, I wouldn't really call squirrel an insult, so Elizabeth is really much more polite dealing with a fellow woman. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Divine Constructs are weapons made / used by gods, as you might expect. We won't see too many examples of such things in this game, but Karna's spear is an example, having been bestowed by Indra. ![]() ![]() ![]() So as I mentioned, you're free to complete whatever business you may have before going after Altera, but I already did that. So we're going on ahead to our final confrontation with Altera... ![]() ![]() Theater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() For the record, one of my Side Missions was to eat 5 loaves of Yakisoba Bread, but I hadn't taken enough damage / gotten the drops necessary to complete that one and go 5/5. However, if I fought Altera like I normally would, I probably wouldn't get the drops. So the hits I take at the start of this fight are in no way due to me falling asleep at the switch, no sir. Luckily, I only needed one. Otherwise, it's the same Altera fight. Nero kinda suffers in these head-to-head fights with lack of power, but she's also much faster than Altera, and can dodge out of the way of her most powerful attacks / rush in to do damage. ![]() This was a pretty fun moment. Managed to stop her Photon Ray just in time. ![]() Not bad, not bad at all.
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Turn The entirety of this update will be one long cutscene (nearly a half hour long). There's no real natural breakpoint at all in it, so strap in. Beginning of a new story ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Nero sure makes a lot of rivals. Tamamo, Elizabeth, and now Altera. What can you say? She's a people person. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Oh Nero. If we didn't already know you were a few fries short of a Happy Meal, I'd be liable to call you foolish. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Hmm...but if Body Hakuno's time to disappear is now, that means that Altera can't be far behind either... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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And so begins the 4th part of this LP: the sub-stories. At this point in the game (everything up to Stage 6 of Golden Poem), you can play all of the Side Stories except for Archimedes' (Elizabeth's unlocks after Stage 5), and you unlock the secret character's just by unlocking her. Archimedes you get by, you guessed it, finishing the entire game. First up will be good ol' Archer, then Iskandar, then Karna. Each Side Story will be three updates long, however none of them will be anywhere near as long as a typical talky update.
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No matter what timeline we're in, there's no happy ending for the Body, and the outlook's not so great for Altera either. Given what we already knew, that shouldn't be a surprise, but it's still depressing, and the Body is just so tragically accepting of the whole thing. Also, I think the Mythology Mystic Code is a CCC thing, although since I haven't actually played CCC that's about the extent of what I know.
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Hunter of the Red Plains - Nameless 1![]() Welcome to our first Servant Side Story. By popular vote, Nero's first lieutenant Nameless will be our first of many. ![]() ![]() Yeah, I was using one of his DLC costumes to level grind a bit. So, what's Nameless' story? After all, unlike everyone else in the game, he is neither a famous mythological or historical figure, so he seems a bit out of place no matter where he goes. That's because unlike everyone else in this game, Nameless cannot be properly called Heroic Spirit. He is instead what's known in this universe as a Counter Guardian, but we'll get back to that. The closest Nameless has to a True Name is Emiya Shirou, the protagonist of Fate/stay night and hollow ataraxia. Shirou was a relatively ordinary magus who specialized in projection magic, the ability to conjure weapons (almost always swords, as Shirou's "root" as a magus is the ability to create swords) and items within his magical ability. However, Nameless comes from a Shirou that's never been seen, outside of a short scene in the anime adaptation of Unlimited Blade Works. The Shirou of that particular timeline won the 5th Holy Grail War of his timeline along with his Servant Saber (Artoria Pendragon, which is how Nameless knows of Artoria in the prologue of FSN, but Artoria doesn't know him). Upon winning his Holy Grail War, Shirou made a wish to the manifested Holy Grail, to receive the power to become, in his words, a Hero of Justice. It's around this point that his skin turns brown and his hair turned white, from extensive use of projection magic. As a Hero of Justice, he dedicated his power to helping the most number of people possible, even if that meant killing others, something he saw as an inevitability. In his mindset, not everyone could be saved, or even should be. As more problems came up, more people were killed by his hands. At the end of his road, only oblivion awaited, having been turned into a convenient enemy during some conflict he was involved in. However, instead of that being the end, he obtained Heroic Spirit-like status from a pact with the world, or in other words, the Counter Force (the same unconscious force that created Excalibur as a countermeasure to Sephyr). The Counter Force gave him the chance to continue his fight, and he accepted. As a Counter Guardian, he is dispatched to timelines and situations that threaten humanity's future, and his job is to set things right. In other words, an endless fight. The type of guy who always shows up where he's needed. So why doesn't he identify himself properly? Part of the reason is he's not always 100% familiar with his own story, part of the reason is he generally sees no reason to. The name Emiya Shirou means nothing to anyone but himself, and even then, the Shirou we're familiar with rejects Nameless' utilitarian philosophy and doesn't accept him, a sentiment Nameless shares. So, there's no reason for names with him. In spite of his own nihilistic tendencies, however, Nameless does retain Shirou's somewhat childish philosophy of wanting to be a hero to everyone. If you'll permit, it's just he's seen enough poo poo to be generally pessimistic about his chances of actually doing so, having seen what the interests of justice demand of him. So that's Nameless' story. I'll talk a bit more about his personal history in this franchise before the start of the next stage. One more thing I want to talk about before we start is his current costume. The name of this costume is "Slash and Connect", which is a reference you definitely wouldn't get if you weren't familiar with the name Emiya Kiritsugu, Shirou's adopted father. Kiritsugu's speciality as a Magus Killer was oriented around his Origin Bullets, which were bullets created from his ribs and designed to kill powerful magi. The concept behind those bullets is, upon contact, the bullets would slash apart the magus' Magic Circuits and retie them. Doing so makes these circuits weaker and embeds Kiritsugu's power in them. When a magus tries using magic again, their own circuits tear their body apart from the inside. As for the name itself, the kanji in Kiritsugu's name reads "Slash" and "Connect". This costume is Kiritsugu's working outfit in Fate/zero, a black suit / duster. ![]() Everyone gets a short little line if you want to see what they have to say before a fight. They're always the same between all of a character's stages, so I'll only need to screenshot them once. Also, since you are using new characters, make sure to adjust their Install Skills as necessary. My personal guiding principle will be trying to create Install Skill setups as appropriate as possible to each character. So Nameless with a lot of killing power is right out, since he is pretty weak as a Servant, lore-wise. ![]() I've actually never used his feature, but it is certainly there if you don't feel like grinding with a particular unit. ![]() Most Side Story levels are based around main story levels. Nameless' first is based on Flame Poem stage 2 (the one with Blood Fort Andromeda), and his second is based on Flame Poem stage 4. You'll see how. As with free battle, you can select any side missions from anyone in the game (with the exception of the secret character if you haven't unlocked her). ![]() This mission needs to be explained a bit, if you see it come up. When it says "During a battle" it actually means "In the first battle". So, for example, if you engaged Lu Bu during a stage, and he hit you first, you fail the mission, even if you engage Medusa later and hit her first. This makes it one of the easiest missions to fail. ![]() Nameless stage 1 For all the Servants, their first two stages the intro, stage, and outro will all be one video, but for the third stage, the first two will be combined while the third will be its own video. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() As more lore, Cu Chulainn and Nameless quite dislike each other. While every time one has showed up, the other has as well, it's not really because of that, even if Cu is getting pretty tired of seeing his face. Mostly it's because Cu's the kind of guy who likes being in the thick of a fight, and not the kind of guy who approves of fighting from a distance or killing without the enemy seeing his face. Nameless prefers whatever gets the job done, and cares nothing for honor in a fight. Related, but Cu is one of the reasons Nameless was summoned during the 5th Holy Grail War we're familiar with. Early in FSN, Cu stabs Shirou right through the heart because the latter unintentionally saw his fight with Nameless during FSN's prologue. While Shirou is at death's door, the school idol Tohsaka Rin, Master of Nameless, came across his near-dead body and used magic stored in her pendant to bring him back to the world of the living. She leaves the pendant at the scene and takes off before Shirou recovers. Shirou pockets the pendant and later, during the Unlimited Blade Works route, returns it to her. However, Nameless already had that pendant on his person and gave it to Rin, and when Shirou did the same later in the story, that immediately aroused her suspicion regarding her Servant's identity. The answer, of course, was that Rin's pendant was her unintentional summoning catalyst for Archer, which he had held onto during his life as a reminder of happier days. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() So during Flame Poem stage 2, I talked a bit about Nameless' gameplay, but since, I've unlocked all of his abilities. He's kind of an awkward unit to play as, because his attacks are a bit on the slow side, and his most powerful abilities require a lot of consideration to use effectively, but used correctly, he's one of the most devastating in the game. His prowess is mostly at long-ranged engagements, and being able to extract himself from a tough spot with his second skill, which, as shown, has him jump high into the air and backwards, firing a powerful projectile at the ground to clear out aggressors. ![]() So this move, S S S S T, owns bones, and is similarly one of the best and hardest to use moves in the game. Archer's S S T and this move both fire a sword named Caladbolg (which is the name of Fergus Mac Roich's sword) at enemies. Now, Nameless (or in more popular fan parlance, EMIYA) generally doesn't like to use swords other than his twin blades Kanshou and Bakuya to fight, but he does like to fire them as explosives, which destroys them, but does briefly raise their attack power. Caladbolg fired from the ground... ![]() Fires a friggin' NUKE at range . Caladbolg flies a pretty far distance in front of him, somewhat dragging along a target, and once it reaches a boundary, explodes for huge damage to everyone caught in the blast radius. This move is pretty dangerous to use at close range, just because any attack that staggers will knock EMIYA out of the animation, and if the target just gets juggled a little, but not actually dragged along with the missile, it won't do what you want. It's most effective when you push a target or group of targets against a boundary, and then fire it. This limits the chance of the enemy being outside the blast radius. While it is hard to use effectively, this is fun as hell, and very few moves are as good as utterly annhilating groups of enemies or doing huge damage to enemy Servants. This move is so absurdly powerful when EMIYA is in Moon Drive mode. We're talking nearly the ability to take out an enemy Servant in one hit. Quite sure it's the single most powerful attack outside of a Noble Phantasm. ![]() EMIYA's T T T fires out one arrow, then three in a spread-shot style formation, then the third T charges up a bunch of arrows to fire out in six directions, but it takes a few seconds to come out. ![]() EMIYA's best facet is his ability to do damage at range and effortlessly switch to close quarters combat, where he's of middling speed and low power, but plenty of powerful long range attack. S T -> T T T is a pretty bread and butter crowd control for him, as the first part will end with him knocking a target up and away from him (except for the heavy Aggressors and the one that glides around a lot), while the T T T pushes the original back even further and the final part pushes away an enemy group. The S T has the added benefit of the original arrow exploding somewhat at range and scattering weaker enemies, which are the explosions you see in that screenshot. ![]() His Extella Manuever is a reference to a line he has in Unlimited Blade Works, where he says he could project Excalibur (the sword he uses here), but the recoil from it would probably destroy him. When a weapon is projected, it retains its ability somewhat, but because it's not the genuine article, it is a bit weaker. However, even in a weakened form, people who are not Artoria are really not equipped to handle the power of Excalibur, and in one of FSN's endings, Shirou's projection and usage of Excalibur blows him to smithereens after usage. After this, Blood Fort Andromeda was activated, as we've come to expect. One thing I have to add... ![]() I actually had to learn from an interview with Nasu he was somewhat surprised to learn people didn't really get what the eye was supposed to represent in Blood Fort. It's actually one of Medusa's eyes from under her visor, which she rarely takes off. I'll totally admit I never picked up on that. ![]() S S S T throws down a field of swords in front of EMIYA, then after vacuuming a group together, he evaporates the swords or something and jumps forward with his twin swords and slashes the crowd away. Definitely more useful as a general rule than his other moves, and does a decent amount of damage, so in heavier pitched battles you'll be using that a lot. ![]() I actually wasn't aware you could still have Blood Fort up while finishing the stage. However, while it's up it's still suicide to fight Lu Bu. Don't know about Medusa, didn't test. ![]() ![]() ![]() Since Nameless keeps track of this stuff, this is not the first time he and Medusa have met, and he's familiar with Blood Fort's ability to drain mana out of people in a targeted area from his experience in Fuyuki. I always like callbacks like that. ![]() Ground Caladbolg right to the face... Not the prettiest way to go. ![]() It was bound to happen... I actually had to be careful to only take out enemy Aggressors instead of Medusa, so I could take the last Sector, THEN finish the stage. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Sylphid fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Mar 2, 2018 |
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Fifth holy grail war, not fourth. The fourth was the one covered in Fate/Zero. Also, I don't think that the Shiro that became Archer ever made a wish on the Holy grail, he just fought over and over again to save people, to reach his ideal as a Hero of Justice. At one point, he made a pact with the world to provide him with enough Mana to properly use his reality marble, instead of just projecting things from it. While he did everything he could to save everyone, people were unable to understand that he was doing it out a selfless desire to save everyone, and the people eventually executed him, believing that he had some ulterior motive for saving people. The pact with the world made him a counter guardian after he died, and he was sent out to multiple conflicts, where he was forced to kill by the counter force, because the counter force is willing to kill people in order to save more people than the people who were killed. His betrayal by the people of his time, and the counter force forcing him to kill, made him bitter, so when he was summoned in Fate/Stay Night, he tried to kill his younger self to prevent him from having to go down the same path he did. Of course, that is true for the Archer from Fate/Stay Night. This one made a pact with the moon cell instead of the world, and so doesn't have exactly the same history as what I just wrote, although some of it is the same.
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It's me, I'm the one sneaking around in a suit of armor
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Oh, hi Artoria. What the hell are you doing here?
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She's here to sell you her $1.99 swimsuit DLC.
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Sylphid posted:
Well that's because it doesn't look like her eyes. ![]() ![]() Medusa in Fate has square pupils.
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BlazeEmblem posted:Of course, that is true for the Archer from Fate/Stay Night. This one made a pact with the moon cell instead of the world, and so doesn't have exactly the same history as what I just wrote, although some of it is the same. According to Grand Order, this Moon Cell version abandoned his own name in order to become the symbol of nameless and forgotten heroes. Somehow, that also caused his Strength and Luck stats to go up an entire rank compared to EMIYA.
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Worldwalker_Pure posted:According to Grand Order, this Moon Cell version abandoned his own name in order to become the symbol of nameless and forgotten heroes. Somehow, that also caused his Strength and Luck stats to go up an entire rank compared to EMIYA. EMIYA is a bitter and broke man, plagued by doubts and regrets. As an example, his plan in UBW involved out-stubborning Emiya Shirou, and he of all people should know that no one can out-stubborn Shirou, not even himself. Counter Guardian EMIYA is simply going through with the motions, I can buy a rank reductions in two stats, assuming Nameless didn't get screwed by the Moon Cell the way Gaia screwed EMIYA. E: his fighting style in Extella is absolutely in character for someone with Eye of The Mind Omobono fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Jan 31, 2018 |
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Gee. I wonder whom this might be?
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Nameless 2![]() W-Well, in my defense, while Kiritsugu's outfit may be the attire of a seasoned, professional operator, EMIYA wouldn't be much without his ability to adapt to changing circumstances. Sometimes you just want to break free, you know? Nameless stage 2 is based on Flame Poem stage 4, so your primary opponents will be Iskandar (with his "conquering Sectors increases his power" gimmick and Jeanne d'Arc. So, a bit about EMIYA's legacy. He has...quite a long pedigree. In fact, as a fun fact, he was the first-ever Servant seen in this franchise, his first appearance being after Rin summoned him during the prologue of Fate/stay night. In that game, he was a prominent entity in all three routes. In the Fate route, he was an antagonistic, but mostly easy-going guy who aided his Master and Shirou by standing against the seemingly-immortal Heracles at a crucial moment, and while he eventually got torn to shreds by the mad Servant, he didn't go down without killing Heracles a few times. In the Unlimited Blade Works route, this was his major role in the story. During the course of the plot as it develops here, EMIYA acts more and more as a chief antagonist, climaxing in the moment when he confronts Shirou about his identity and the the climax of the plot is him confronting Shirou about their respective ideals. In the final route, Heaven's Feel, he takes a somewhat minor role, with his most important contribution being lending Shirou his arm that allows his alter ego to somewhat match his projection ability. After FSN, he returned in the pseudo-sequel, Fate/hollow ataraxia. He missed out on the next two major entries in the franchise, Fate/zero and Fate/apocrypha, before returning in the EXTRA series, starting with the very first. And, of course, he's a summonable Servant by the protagonist in Grand Order. So he's a guy who's been around the block a few times. Like quite a few other Servants, EMIYA was recently (as of a year ago), given an evil counterpart. EMIYA Alter was released alongside the Shinjuku chapter in Grand Order's story. The backstory with him is in that, in an alternate timeline, EMIYA was summoned to deal with Kiara, the pleasure-loving antagonist of CCC, and the following she had accumulated. While EMIYA generally feels no problem with killing people to accomplish his ultimate objective, this assignment was far and beyond what he was used to, and after slaughtering so many of Kiara's followers, turned into an evil mockery of his former self. His skin was further blackened by extensive use of projection magic, and he abandoned his swords to replace them with similarly-colored firearms, which makes it easier for him to kill larger numbers of people faster than before. Basically, while EMIYA plays by his own rules in regards to how his mission is carried out, he's not the type to kill wantonly or involve people who don't need to be involved. EMIYA Alter is all of his moral restraints lifted, with all pride and honor as a Heroic Spirit replaced to finish the job by any means necessary. ![]() Nameless stage 2 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() So it's this stage again, with Li Shuwen handling the Sector nearest to where you start, at the bottom of the map, and Iskandar roaming about. Nameless has a particularly easy time here, as the heavy Aggressors are particularly vulnerable to his long-range prowess. Just remember that these guys can haul their big asses into the sky to jump at you, but even so, staying fast on your feet and paying attention will completely neuter the threat. ![]() When it comes to fighting powerful enemies like Iskandar, keep in mind that most of EMIYA's strength comes from his ability to deal with crowds, and he's a bit vulnerable when it comes to fighting powerful enemies in areas like this, with lots of wide-open space and few boundaries to push targets against for ground Caladbolg. This is where his more bread and butter stuff, like S T, S S S T, and the long S combo sequence to fight one-on-one. Like Nero, he kind of struggles in close-range battle, but not so much that you need to wildly compensate. You'll mostly use his long-range attacks in these kinds of setting to harass the target at range. ![]() Li actually took a really long time to finish this fight. I was briefly worried something had gone wrong and he had bitten off a bit more than he could chew. Luckily, that was not necessary. Less luckily, Iskandar chose that moment to reappear, and so I had to go bail Li out anyway. After I take out that enemy Plant in the top right. ![]() EMIYA's long S combo is another reference to a particular staple of his, slashing a bunch with his swords, then throwing a copy around his enemy's back like boomerangs, then projecting another pair and hitting the enemy from two directions at once. It's pretty sweet, actually, and does a pretty good amount of damage. ![]() Well, victory is ours, with all Sectors taken, but we've still got Jeanne and Iskandar to take care of. Unfortunately, we'll have to do it by ourselves, since Iskandar wouldn't chase me back to Li's Sector, and I don't trust my ability to take out Jeanne before Iskandar takes this area. Also, I didn't use Nameless' Noble Phantasm in the last episode, and I won't be using it in this, but trust me, I won't forget in Stage 3. It is probably the best Noble Phantasm animation in the game, after all. ![]() So we're familiar with the 7 regular classes, how about the Extra Classes? Well, there's a lot, at this point in the franchise. We know of Jeanne's status as an impartial mediator of Grail Wars (the Ruler class), but there are also Avengers (Heroic Spirits of vengeance), Moon Cancer (BB's class from CCC, basically a glitch within the Moon Cell), Saver / Savior (the final boss of Fate/EXTRA was Buddha, so far the only Saver-class Servant in this series, though it's not hard to imagine other candidates), Alter Ego (a very odd class. Basically it's like alternate personalities of established entities. They're like personifications of wishes and such), and as of December 2017, the Foreigner class. The last one are a really special bunch, being individuals who have come into contact with eldritch gods and maintained some degree of their sanity while still wielding their power. The last one at the moment is Shielder, but Mashu Kyrielight from Grand Order is more of a case unto herself than a particularly established class. She represents a Heroic Spirit of the shield, but is basically a normal human using someone else's power. As a fun aside, the Shielder class was originally supposed to appear in Fate/stay night, but that didn't pan out, and Shielder had to wait 11 years to make its debut. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() This isn't actually a part of the above conversation (though it's really cool that conversation is in the game. Both Jeanne and Iskandar have to be standing for it to happen, obviously), but I appreciated EMIYA's sarcasm here, while on low health. Shortly after this line, I managed to defeat Iskandar. Good thing, too, because it was proving pretty dicey fighting both of these goons at once. ![]() ...This is why you don't use Caladbolg at close range. ![]() Independent Action, baby. Well, I don't know if this is a result from the Install Skills I put in, but it definitely worked out if it was a result. Jeanne didn't last too long after that. ![]() Jeanne nearly knocked me out of EX rank, but I just barely hung in there. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Did you know the name "John Doe" originated during the Middle Ages? England, to be exact, with Wikipedia telling me it may date back as far as the 1320s. Speaking of nicknames, "La Pucelle" (The Maid) is indeed a real world epithet for Joan of Arc. ![]() ![]() A geas is a special binding among Celtic warriors. Cu Chulainn mentions them a few times, and it's basically a magical oath binding a Celt's conduct, but the concept exists far outside of Ireland in the TM universe. Going against a geas usually ends pretty badly for the offending party. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Sylphid fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Mar 2, 2018 |
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Nameless 3![]() EMIYA's a seasoned warrior, but when there's no fight to be had, he can be quite the domestic sort. For the record, every Servant has an idle animation, but you'll probably never see them for almost everyone since there's really very little reason to wait around in this game. EMIYA has the most elaborate, pulling out a teapot, saucer, and cup and pouring himself a drink. Oh yeah, and the costume. Well, every playable character in this game has at least one alternate costume (Elizabeth has 4 costumes, including her default one). Nero, Tamamo, and Altera unlock theirs' from bond level events (Elizabeth gains 2 from bond levels), whereas everyone else unlocks them from completing their Sub Stories. So, after I finished Nameless' first two stages, I quickly finished stage 3 so I could go through the last stage with this. Said stage is based on Golden Poem stage 4 (the one with Iskandar), so be prepared for a big fight. ![]() Nameless stage 3 ![]() The game is using the Latin spelling of the word "Preceptor", but if you're curious about her meaning, she actually says "Assassin-sensei". ![]() ![]() Nero's father was named Gnaeus Domitius Ahenobarbus, a name I had to copy+paste from Wikipedia, because I could never spell that name right for my life. Probably a few good reasons not many people have heard of this guy. Your name needs to be catchy, sheesh. Also, to quote "During his lifetime, Domitius did not enjoy a good reputation. He was accused of being the accomplice of Albucilla in the crimes of adultery and murder, and also of incest with his sister Domitia Lepida, and narrowly escaped execution only because of the death of Tiberius". Sounds like a guy who attracted trouble. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() So here's a weird thing. Nero mentions Li Shuwen, Cu Chulainn, and Nameless during her opening speech, but Li is nowhere to be seen. Instead, we have Gawain in the middle fighting Altera. But I quite assure you she mentioned Assassin-sensei, so, based on this revelation I just had writing this, seems like this was a little screw-up. Ah well. ![]() So, ignoring the top-most Sector, because Cu will handle it, you've got a number of ways you can start this stage. You can choose to go after the two highest-value Sectors, take out Altera, or take out the enemy Plant at the bottom of the map. I elected to take over the entire eastern part of the map, then the latter. Meanwhile Gawain will just have to deal with Altera for a bit. Soon after the stage starts, Iskandar will call in the heavy units. So, get used to those guys. ![]() I actually forgot before I came in here, but this Sector is trapped with something I can't counter. Thankfully, I was able to get out of here before it fired. Just means I'll have to remember to come back here with a full Moon Drive charge. ![]() Part of the fun with having an allied Servant fighting with you is that Nameless can charge up Caladbolgs from a distance, simply because the enemy will typically ignore your allies to come after you. Your buddy smacks your foe from behind? That's time they'll have to take to recover, and you can get some distance and fire. ![]() I was pretty proud of how I fought Gilgamesh. I was mostly harassing him with long-range attacks, but I mixing it up with close-range harassment and keeping a good eye on how close we were so I could prepare my strategy. S T is very reliable. ![]() During our rematch, I was actually pretty well delayed by Cu attacking. His enthusiasm, we shall call it, kept Gil's shields up for a long time. After I chased Gil off, I won the stage, and got Iskandar to show up. Unfortunately, I still have two Sectors to conquer. ![]() Mission accomplished, right? ![]() ![]() Maybe not. Well, we finally meet our secret character, Artoria Pendragon. Don't worry, I'll have plenty to say about her later. We've got a big fight on our hands at the moment. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Old friends... So Artoria is, um, dangerous. In terms of gameplay, I think she's by far the best character in the game, and that definitely shows up as an enemy. She has two extremely dangerous attacks: where she'll charge Excalibur for a bit and then fire out three waves of energy in a spread-shot formation, and the other is where she'll release the compressed air around her sword and fire off a few large tornados in a large circle (which is what was going on in the screenshot with her talking). Either of these projectile attacks can hit you from very far away and do a ton of damage. ![]() The final move you really have to watch out for is where she'll launch a very fast sword combo at you that ends with her jumping into the air like a buzz saw. The reason this is so powerful is because if any part of the combo hits, you're gonna get hit by whatever remains. Normally one would wait for an enemy to attack, then counterattack, and to some extent that still holds up for the King of Knights. However, she can recover quickly and launch attacks with very little warning. You'll want to keep her at medium range and rush in when she's not attacking. Even then, reliablity is not 100%. For example... ![]() ![]() I launched her into the air with S S S T, but while EMIYA was jumping forward to slash, she *immediately* responded by crashing down on top of me with her dive attack. There's basically at no distance or any state of damage where she's not dangerous, and you're probably gonna take a few lumps here and there, but fighting her in large area with lots of maneuverability can keep at least prevent her from taking advantage of her brutal close-range combos. Also, be forewarned that she will occasionally dash straight at you, which can close the distance between the two of you very quickly. ![]() For old friends... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The end result of an ordinary magus who spent a lifetime making swords...Unlimited Blade Works. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The way Unlimited Blade Works, lore-wise, is that EMIYA stored all the weapons he had ever seen in his life inside what's called a Reality Marble, a little pocket dimension he can create. While his mana can handle it, he can reproduce weapons extremely easily, and can call upon anything inside to fight with with low mana costs to himself. It's not something he can maintain for very long, but it's proof of a long, hard-fought life. I was actually surprised I took more than 200 damage and still managed an EX rank, but I guess the damage parameters are different depending on a particular level.[/i] ![]() To the world of possibilities ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Well, it's nice that you saw I was late and came to get me, but... You're unwise to come here all by yourself. ...Well, whatever. I'm sure Saber will have plenty to say to me once we're all back home. ![]()
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Conqueror of the Moon - Iskandar![]() ![]() So, we finally ride alongside Alexander the Great. As we've been made very much aware, Iskandar is the legendary conqueror who rode out from Macedonia, conquered the entire Persian Empire after inflicting one massive defeat after another on its emperor, and invaded northern India. As the heir of Macedon's Philip II, he succeeded to the throne at the age of 20 and quickly embarked upon unifying all of what we now know as Greece, a task easily achieved after his only potential rival, the League of Corinth, was subdued. Before launching his Asian world tour, he also broke the power of Thrace, on Macedon's northern border. Soon after, in 334 BC, he began his invasion of the Persian Empire at Granicus, in Persian-occupied Asia Minor. While somewhat smaller of a battle than he would later experience in Gaugamela, Alexander nonetheless chased the Persian army from the field and gradually conquered the rest of Asia Minor in their absence. It's from this time where the famous incident of the Gordian Knot supposedly took place. As the story goes, the person could untie the knot would eventually conquer all of Asia (it's worth noting that the "Asia" of antiquity and the "Asia" of today are much different places. In that, the ancient Greeks did not have much conception at all of anything involving Asia east of what we would now call Iran). Alexander responded by withdrawing his sword, and hacking the knot apart. A cheat, perhaps, but he took it as a good omen. Following Asia Minor, he proceeded down the coast of the Levant. He met Darius III, the Persian emperor, at Issus. This was his first encounter with the emperor, and Darius' attempt to cut off the Macedonian supply lines ended in disaster, with the emperor forced to flee the field (which is the first time the Persian Empire faced defeat with its emperor in the field). In addition to defeating Darius' army, after the battle, Alexander also captured Darius' wife, their two daughters (one of whom Alexander would later marry), and even Darius' mom. The battle was such a disaster that Darius offered to cede what lands Alexander had already taken, but Alexander, feeling no small amount of pride, declined, saying the decisions about how to divide up Asia were his alone to make, as the already-King of Asia. Securing Asia Minor and Syria, he then subdued the coastal city of Tyre, whose fall so scared its neighbors that mot Levantine cities surrendered (Gaza being a notable exception. Alexander suffered a pretty bad injury to his shoulder while attacking that fortress). Egypt, however, quickly surrended to Alexander rather than fight. He was promptly declared the new pharaoh of Egypt, a title that had been in absentia during the Persian occupation. Following Egypt, Macedon's army then met the Persians at the Battle of Gaugamela in what's now northern Iraq. The Persian army, under the leadership of its emperor Darius III, met Alexander's army. Darius had hoped to use this chance to finally defeat Alexander, but as it went, Alexander was completely victorious. The Persian army was completely broken, ceded all of Mesopotamia, and left the door to Persia wide open. After Gaugamela, Darius had no army left to fight, and abandoned his homeland and capital to try and raise yet another army with his relations in central Asia. However, the hapless emperor was betrayed and murdered by his kin, an indignity Alexander would not forget when he caught up with the man who killed Darius. For most folk, bringing a centuries-old empire to its end would be quite enough, but for Alexander, it was just the start. Around this time, Alexander started to go particularly native, taking a few Persian women as wives and generally adopting the customs of the area (which is where the name Iskandar comes from). His occupation of the ancient capital of Persepolis ended in the city's destruction, an outcome Alexander may or may not have regretted. Shortly after conquering Persia, Alexander then turned his attention to central Asia, where Bessus, the killer of Darius, made his home. His central Asian campaign was mostly centered around Afghanistan, where founded a number of cities in his name (including what's now Kandahar), taking him as far afield as Tajikistan. His final campaign of conquest took him to India, where after gaining some local allies, Alexander won the Battle of Hydaspes in eastern Pakistan / northwestern India, but Alexander took another severe injury during the fight, and his troops refused to go any further. While he couldn't know it, his war of conquest, his journey to the world ocean Okeanos, was over. His army staggered back to Persia / Mesopotamia, where Alexander himself perished from disease in his newly-declared capital of Babylon. There's a lot more to his story, of course, including occasional assassination attempts, but I think that's enough. Point is, Alexander is one of very few special people in history: an undefeated commander and a man who seemed larger than life, even during his life. He didn't build the largest empire within a single lifetime (Genghis Khan would have that honor), but in all of ancient history, he had no peer as a leader of men. ![]() Iskandar stage 1 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() So the template for this stage is the Dawn Arc's version of Fuyuki. So, you'll have Gilgamesh barking at you, telling you to go after Li Shuwen. But first, let's meet our new protagonist. ![]() Iskandar's an interesting fellow. He is *really* slow, to the point where you'll really want to equip Reduced Earth (movement speed up), just to make any kind of decent time. He's not a character like Nero or Nameless, someone who uses speed and fast movements to overwhelm the enemy. Instead, he's more like a guy who takes control of a field from one spot and makes the enemy come to them. It can be a little frustrating getting used to him from faster characters, but he has his own bag of tricks. ![]() His S T attack is pretty great. After the T, Iskandar will mount his trusted horse Buscephalus (where he gets his Rider designation from, alongside the chariot he likes riding in), and dash around the field, swinging his sword around. While he's mounted, keep pressing T to keep the attack going but it'll end by itself after 5 seconds or so. While, as you might expect, none of the individual attacks are very powerful, it does provide him with a lot of mobility and the ability to scatter a mob in a few swings. You can also use it to launch an enemy Servant away and follow up a bit, though keep in mind Iskandar can be knocked off his horse. ![]() His S S T attack is more reliable. He'll summon two waves of ghostly Macedonian infantry to charge forward, doing damage. It's a pretty good way to push away attacks and do (relatively) fast damage. ![]() And finally, his S S S T is just him using his massive voice to do damage. It...gets a bit more impressive when he's leveled up a bit. ![]() Iskandar's lightning motif comes from the historical Alexander's claim he was a son of Zeus (apparently his mother Olympias began this theory. Alexander took it as a personal calling to live up to his supposed parentage, and his mother's influence played a large part in that goal). After he conquered Egypt, he was proclaimed the son of Amun (as well as pharaoh), and he began telling folks he was the son of Zeus-Ammon. Back to the game, this is his only triangle-based attack, just a single fast swing of his sword that admittedly does nice knockback damage, but it's slow to come out, so don't rely on it too much. It's really just meant to push people away when you don't have time or room to scatter with special attacks. ![]() When he's at level 18, S S S T T becomes a massive chariot charge attack. Pretty good damage, range, and I believe it's not possible for enemy attacks to knock you out of it. It'll just charge in a straight line, but it's a good follow-up and the invincibility frames are always nice. Also, the chariot can go through walls, so keep that in mind. ![]() Phew, all done with that... But aren't we forgetting something, moving on to the next Sector? Ah well, can't be that important, then. ![]() And his S S S S T attack only deploys his massive chariot, so we'll just have to wait on the upgrade to that. ![]() I've been wrong before, though... Sorry 'bout that. As an aside, Iskandar is a very boisterous dude and he hams it up spectacularly for his special attacks. It's hard to believe this dude is the same dude who voices Solid Snake in Japanese MGS. ![]() ![]() Unfortunately, yes, Cu Chulainn will be our enemy. This is a pretty poor matchup for Iskandar, since Cu has both speed and range over him, meaning you'll have to fight him pretty aggressively and not give him a lot of room to harass you. But we do have another thing the Son of Light doesn't have in his arsenal... ![]() ![]() What would Iskandar be without the army that sought to conquer Asia? Death is no obstacle to service, after all. Ionioi Hetairoi, the army of the king. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Once you're done showing off, I should note that S T is a pretty good way to harass an enemy that's in Moon Crux mode, but it is kinda dangerous. Use it if you're confident in your ability to strafe the enemy. ![]() Well, it's not Asia Minor, or Persia, but we've gotta start somewhere. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Where, indeed. Sylphid fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Feb 22, 2018 |
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Iskandar 2 Iskandar's only other major role prior to this game was as the Rider in Fate/zero. He was the Servant of Waver Velvet, a somewhat accidental entry into the Grail War, Waver was a student at basically the Fate equivalent of Hogwarts when his teacher put him down in class for suggesting mages from less established pedigrees could be capable mages, as well. After discovering the Fuyuki Grail ritual, he decided he would enter and win the War, for no other reason than to prove him wrong. To facilitate this, he stole his teacher's summoning catalyst, a scrap of Iskandar's cape, and summoned the boisterous conqueror after his arrival in Japan. Waver, kind of a shy dude, was unprepared for his Servant's personality, especially about the king's newfound love of video games and modern life. Iskandar for his part thought Waver was a bit of a stick in the mud, but otherwise fairly capable. Iskandar dragged his Master around everywhere he went, especially into battle. In the early part of the story Iskandar wanted everyone to join him as underlings as he embarked upon a new world conquest, something Waver wasn't into at all. However, problems with the summoned Caster, Gilles de Rais, caused Iskandar to temporarily ally with Lancer and Saber to take him down. Prior to Caster's defeat, Iskandar summoned the two other kings in the war, Saber and Archer, to a big meeting of kings he had arranged. During the fight, Iskandar mocked Saber's motivations for being in the war, before showing her the strength of his own kingship by destroying Assassin with his Noble Phantasm. After the defeat of Caster, Iskandar treated the rest of the war more or less the same as the first half, but he unintentionally acquired his first defeat after Berserker stole his identity to kidnap one of the pseudo-Masters in the war, and Saber chased him down and destroyed his chariot. As the climax of the war was approaching, Iskandar met Gilgamesh over Fuyuki's bridge for the last time. Iskandar had wanted to treat Gilgamesh as something like a confederate, a sentiment the ornery king didn't reciprocate. Iskandar tried to run down Gilgamesh with his Noble Phantasm, but Gilgamesh made short work of it with Ea. Iskandar mounted one final charge against the king, but Gilgamesh's Chains bound him, the high-Divinity ranking son of Zeus, and finally defeated him by stabbing him through the stomach with his own sword. After his Servant's defeat, Gilgamesh decided to spare his Master, seeing no reason to kill the boy. After the war, Waver held onto the memory of Iskandar as the guy who made him a man. So are there any alternate forms of Fate Iskandar? There is; just one, though. It's his child form, usually referred to as Alexander to avoid confusion with the grown-up version. In Grand Order, he is also a Rider. The young Alexander was taught by, among others, Aristotle. It helps being well-connected, doesn't it? ![]() Iskandar stage 2 ![]() ![]() Well, I don't think Iskandar DOES "sneak attacks", but the thought is what's important here. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() After this intro scene, you'll get the next one, the one where Archimedes talks about infiltrating the Zero Dark with Nero. The one from the Dawn Arc stage where you had to achieve victory within 12 minutes to force Gawain out to fight. ![]() Like in the Dawn Arc stage, Regalia Nero will be here to hunt you down. You'll start off in an allied Sector, so just take a few moments, relax, and wait for her to come for you. She'll take about 41 seconds to show up from the start of the stage. Since I'm *very* quickly getting out this Sector, this is the stage-unique dialogue between these two. ![]() ![]() ![]() So our first real fight will be against Nameless. I suppose you could flee to the top right enemy Sector, but that's more putting off the problem. The problem is you'll need to take out Nameless fast, because dealing with him and Nero is...a bit much. This area is swarming with hammer Aggressors, so watch yourself. They can interrupt air attacks if you attack them mid-swing. ![]() Once you're done with him, get the hell out of the Sector. If you take out Nameless, but Nero comes in after you're done, your retreat will be met with Nero very quickly taking the Sector back. The reason this is important is because the Nameless Sector is a pretty crucial one to actually winning the stage. ![]() Howdy there. We're gonna wait for Nero to come fight Altera. While they're busy killing each other, we'll raise some hell. ![]() Nero is a spawn camper. ![]() Only one more Sector, and then it's time for a big ol' rumble. ![]() Iskandar's final special attack is so drat cool. At the end of a S S S S T combo, press T again and he'll bring out his chariot again, but instead of just slamming it down on enemies, he'll spin a massive couple of doughnuts with it. Heavy damage, wide-ranging, it's a lot of fun. Definitely his most effective attack, which is only fair, as it takes the longest to come out. Crowds just have a way of disappearing with that move deployed. ![]() Altera's taken a few lumps, but Nero has as well. I think it's time to make the difference. I spammed the doughnut move to do as much damage to Nero as possible. She's too unpredictable to rely on Iskandar's other attacks, which mostly focus on enemies in front of him. ![]() ![]() Phew, that did a lot of damage. A ton of damage to Gawain, and forced Nero to retreat. Now the rest of the map is a cakewalk. The only challenge is making sure I don't kill the actual target before I conquer all the Sectors. ![]() ![]() ![]() One of these things is not like the others. ![]() ![]() And even still, most of that damage came from Nero getting a couple of cheap shots in. About as well as this stage can be fought. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() For more information on why Iskandar and Gil talk like old buddies, check out Fate/zero. ![]() ![]() Sylphid fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Jul 18, 2018 |
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