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Who is your favorite wrestling dad? This poll is closed. |
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| Arn Anderson |
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29 | 27.36% |
| Yuji Nagata |
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12 | 11.32% |
| Scott Steiner (The Big Booty Daddy) |
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40 | 37.74% |
| Big Daddy Yum Yum |
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14 | 13.21% |
| Other (Post ITT!) |
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11 | 10.38% |
| Total: | 106 votes | ||
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Vince dropped it cause without a white guy he couldn't work out who you should root for
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Aug 21, 2019 12:55
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Smackdown is now a great comedy show with precisely like one good match a week. It'd be even better with more stupid poo poo. Lean all the way into it. I hope this Roman story just keeps introducing doppelgangers of other people.
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Aug 21, 2019 14:44
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DLC Inc posted:Smackdown is now a great comedy show with precisely like one good match a week. It'd be even better with more stupid poo poo. Lean all the way into it. I hope this Roman story just keeps introducing doppelgangers of other people. The Daniel Bryan doppelganger is just Hornswaggle with a fake beard over his real beard. This is good poo poo.
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Aug 21, 2019 15:20
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It's weird how they keep making Buddy Murphy look good in matches only to make him look like a cowardly loser who gets beat up all the time backstage.
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Aug 21, 2019 15:32
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So last week someone said it would be interesting to look at all the NXT callups since the Shield debuted to see how many were successes and well, work's been quiet and my boss is away so here you go: 18/11/12 – Roman Reigns: debuted in the Shield as the hottest new act in wrestling, team went undefeated for 6 months, held the Tag Team titles with Rollins, looked like a breakout star during the 2014 Royal Rumble, arbitrarily given main event spots following the dissolution of the Shield, massively rejected by fans, really loved Tater Tots, top title run was derailed by hernia, failed to beat Brock Lesnar at WM, status was rehabbed in feud with Bray Wyatt, beat Triple H at WM, top title run was derailed by Wellness violation, had a run with the US title, beat the Undertaker at WM, tried to murder Braun Strowman with an ambulance, top Shield reunion run was derailed by illness, failed to beat Brock Lesnar at WM again, top title run was derailed by leukemia, returned to WWE after full recovery following chemo, presented as equals in feud with Shane McMahon, received murder attempts on his life from 18/11/12 – Seth Rollins: first ever NXT champion, debuted in the Shield as the hottest new act in wrestling, team went undefeated for 6 months, held the Tag Team title with Roman, broke up the Shield by turning on Ambrose and Roman, joined the Authority, won Money in the Bank, intense feud with Ambrose, cashed in to win the WWE title at WM, flopped as champion, forced to vacate the belt from injury, returned from 6 months later still as a heel, betrayed by Triple H, beat Triple H at WM, renewed friendship with Ambrose, won the Raw Tag Team titles, team with Ambrose ended due to injury, formed team with Jason Jordan, team with Jordan ended due to injury, burnt it down as Intercontinental champion, reformed the Shield, betrayed by Ambrose in feud that died a death and killed his momentum, won the Royal Rumble, beat Brock Lesnar for the Universal title at WM, got real mouthy on Twitter, flopped as champion for the second time, traded the belt with Brock Lesnar some more, once again Universal champion and finally in a feud with somebody good, SUCCESS 17/12/12 – Big E: debuted as enforcer for Dolph Ziggler and AJ Lee, secretly admired Kaitlyn but only as joke with AJ, team with Ziggler was broke up for no reason, turned face in angle with CM Punk, failed to win midcard titles numerous times, formed the New Day, initial happy-clappy minstrel gimmick bombed, turned heel, popularity surged, turned face, invented Booty-Os, swivelled hips, got real horny, held the Raw Tag Team title belts for 478 days, traded the Smackdown Tag Team belts back and forth with the Usos in a killer feud, earned Kofi a WWE title shot at WM, integral to one of WWE’s most popular acts, could still get a big singles run, SUCCESS 27/01/13 – Bo Dallas: blue chip babyface turned oblivious heel that got over with Full Sail and ended up NXT champion, never rose above the lower card once called up, joined the Social Outcasts, established long-running comedy team with Curtis Axel, will always have a space on the roster, FINE 03/03/13 – Fandango: sent back to NXT after initial ‘literal metaphors’ gimmick bombed, re-debuted with ballroom dancer gimmick, beat Chris Jericho at WM in debut match, Fandago-ing went viral, lost out on Intercontinental title run due to concussion, returned from injury as a jobber, formed the Fashion Police with Tyler Breeze, created a cult hit with the Fashion Files that earned him precisely zero ring-time, main roster career so successful that he has recently returned to NXT, FAIL 22/04/13 – Summer Rae: debuted as Fandango’s dance partner, later dumped by Fandango in favour of Layla, teamed up with Layla as they both dumped Fandango until Layla retired from injuries, befriended Rusev during his neverending story with Ziggler, proposed marriage to Rusev but was turned down, teamed up with Ziggler until dumping him for Tyler Breeze, disappeared into obscurity until eventual release, FAIL 20/05/13 – Curtis Axel: returned to NXT after failed run in the Nexus, re-debuted as a Paul Heyman Guy, beat Triple H by concussion, feuded over the Intercontinental title, formed a tag team with Ryback, team with Ryback was broken up for no reason, never eliminated from the 2015 Royal Rumble, Axelmania was running wild brother!, joined the Social Outcasts, established long-running comedy team with Bo Dallas, will always have a space on the roster, FINE 08/07/13 – 08/07/13 – 08/07/13 – Bray Wyatt: debuted into a spoOOOooky inferno match with Kane, recruited Daniel Bryan into the Wyatt Family, betrayed by Daniel Bryan, had a big time feud with the Shield, started overdoing gimmicky bullshit during feud with John Cena, broke up the Wyatt Family for no reason, beaten by Undertaker at WM, reunited the Wyatt Family, recruited Braun Strowman, recruited Randy Orton, looked like a beast while winning the WWE title at Elimination Chamber, betrayed by Randy Orton, projected worms onto the ring at WM while dropping the belt to Orton, took part in the House of Horrors match, started cross-dressing, drowned by Matt Hardy in the Lake of Reincarnation, returned at WM to form team with Matt Hardy, got a reign as Raw Tag Team champions, dropped the belts and went solo again when Matt left to heal up injuries, disappeared for almost a year, returned with creepy Mr. Rogers gimmick, debuted the Fiend at Summerslam to much acclaim, SUCCESS 18/11/13 – Xavier Woods: debuted in tag team with R-Truth cause they’re both black, broke off with R-Truth to team up with up with Kofi and Big E as they’re all black, formed the New Day, initial happy-clappy minstrel gimmick bombed, turned heel, popularity surged, turned face, bought a trombone, cooked pancakes, built UpUpDownDown into a legitimate brand, held the Raw Tag Team title belts for 478 days, traded the Smackdown Tag Team belts back and forth with the Usos in a killer feud, earned Kofi a WWE title shot at WM, integral to one of WWE’s most popular acts, SUCCESS 13/01/14 – Emma: debuted her goofy dancing gimmick in angles with Santino and Summer Rae, faded into the background after Santino’s retirement, returned to NXT to be repacked as a heel, redebuted on Main Event before losing months to injury, return was hyped for months with Emmalina video packages, returned and immediately shat all over the Emmalina gimmick, lost to Asuka in her main roster debut, released by WWE, consistently working on the indies including runs for ROH and Impact, FAIL 26/01/14 – 05/05/14 – Adam Rose: Most well known for the people rolling in his crew as Rosebuds than anything he ever did himself FAIL 09/09/14 – The Ascension: dominated the NXT tag team division by being the only established tag team, debuted on Main Event, have achieved precisely bugger all in the ring since being called up, did have a nice run in the Fashion Files though, FAIL 17/02/15 – Kalisto: touted as the next Rey Mysterio, debuted as half of the Lucha Dragons with Sin Cara, held the US title for 119 days, dumped to 205 Live to add ‘star power’, beat Enzo for the Cruiserweight belt and was promptly ignored, claimed to do “good lucha things”, now trapped in jobber hell waving pinatas because Mexico, FAIL 30/03/15 – 04/05/15 – Sami Zayn: widely respected for his work on the indies, former NXT champion including a huge feud with Kevin Owens, debuted against John Cena during the US Open Challenge, injured his shoulder during debut and was out for 7 months, returned to the main roster during the 2016 Royal Rumble, feuded with Owens again, jobbed out to Braun Strowman a bunch, traded to Smackdown and disappeared, turned heel to team up with Owens, locked in nonsensical feud with Shane McMahon for months, fired by Shane but rehired for Raw by Kurt Angle, mocked Bobby Lashley for loving his sisters, disappeared for 9 months for surgery, returned with smarmy critic gimmick, jobbed out to anybody and everybody, thrown in the garbage by Strowman, currently losing matches in under a minute, FAIL 18/05/15 – Kevin Owens: big name indie star turned NXT champion, debuted in hot angle with John Cena while still champ, beat Cena clean in his first main roster match, got multiple Intercontinental title reigns, repeated his indie/NXT feuds with Sami Zayn, won the vacated Universal title, friendship with Chris Jericho was one of biggest highlights of the last few years, dropped the title to Goldberg and pushed down the card for WM, confusing feud with AJ Styles led to confusing feud with Shane McMahon, reunited with Sami, fired by Shane but rehired by Kurt Angle, quit WWE in the middle of the ring, returned with no explanation the next week, out for months through injury, returned as face to buddy up to the New Day, turned heel on the New Day, turned face again with no explanation, now back feuding with Shane again, SUCCESS 13/07/15 – Sasha Banks: one of the Four Horsewomen in NXT, debut on main roster heralded the Women’s Revolution, teamed up with Naomi and Tamina because black people, team with Naomi and Tamina was broken up for no reason, traded the Raw Women’s title back and forth with Charlotte, traded the Raw Women’s title back and forth with Alexa, formed friendship with Bayley, betrayal feud with Bayley fizzled out, reunited with Bayley to become first ever Women’s Tag Team champions, dropped the belts to the IIconics at WM, wouldn’t get up off the floor, stayed off TV for months, returned as heel with blue hair in hot angle, WWE needs her more than she needs them, SUCCESS (I guess?) 13/07/15 – Becky Lynch: one of the Four Horsewomen in NXT, debut on main roster heralded the Women’s Revolution, formed Team PCB with Paige and Charlotte, friendship with Charlotte fell apart as Charlotte turned heel, first ever Smackdown Women’s champion, dropped the belt to Alexa, sidelined for over a year, formed a deep love for quinoa, renewed friendship with Charlotte, turned heel on Charlotte, forced back to face when crowds rejected the turn, took on the Man persona, won the Smackdown Women’s title again, cost the title by Ronda Rousey, beat Ronda Rousey in the main event of WM, got a short run as Becky 2 Belts, popularity plummeted due to feud with Lacey Evans, still the cornerstone of Raw’s women’s division, SUCCESS 13/07/15 – Charlotte Flair: one of the Four Horsewomen in NXT, debut on main roster heralded the Women’s Revolution, formed Team PCB with Paige and Becky, friendship with Becky fell apart after turning heel, traded the Raw Women’s title with Sasha, undefeated on PPV for almost two years, dropped streak to Bayley the show before WM, traded to Smackdown and turned face, resumed friendship with Becky, won the Smackdown Women’s title, dropped the belt to Carmella via cash-in, received growing resentment from fans for being handed opportunity, handed opportunity to win title back from Carmella at Summerslam, turned on by Becky but presented as face for being handed opportunities, feud with Becky was the best women’s wrestling in WWE has ever been, handed opportunity to join Becky and Ronda Rousey in WM main event, handed opportunity to win Smackdown Women’s title from Asuka, dropped the belt to Becky after losing at WM, won the belt back only to lose it to Bayley via cash-in, handed opportunity to feud with Trish Stratus, the Roman Reigns of the women’s division, SUCCESS 22/10/15 – Tyler Breeze: one of NXT’s first original stars, debuted in a feud with Dolph Ziggler, jobbed out a bunch, formed the Fashion Police with Fandango, created a cult hit with the Fashion Files that earned him precisely zero ring-time, main roster career so successful that he has recently returned to NXT, FAIL 28/03/16 – Eva Marie: redebuted to join the Total Divas team for WM32, turned heel with a gimmick of never wrestling a match, kinda got over because it meant nobody had to see her wrestle?, left WWE and wound up on Celebrity Big Brother which ironically made her more famous than she ever was in WWE, FAIL 03/04/16 – Baron Corbin: won Andre the Giant Battle Royal at WM in first main roster match, debuted in a feud with Dolph Ziggler, beat up Kalisto a bunch of times, feuded with Ambrose over the Intercontinental title, won Money in the Bank, lost his cash-in match, won the US title, dropped the belt to Ziggler, traded to Raw, took on the Constable gimmick, got a side job at Applebee’s, given the Raw GM role during huge company slump, fired after being blamed in kayfabe for real life ratings, yet still booking matches somehow?, teamed up with Lashley and Drew, feuded with Rollins for the Universal title, not banging Lacey Evans, apparently really hot???, UGHHHHHHHH 04/04/16 – Apollo Crews: unceremoniously debuted on Raw to feud with the Social Outcasts, failed to win the Intercontinental title off the Miz in two attempts, formed an enjoyable tag team with Titus O’Neil until they were broken up for no reason, has done bugger all since, FAIL 04/04/16 – Enzo Amore and Big Cass: They’re Enzo and Big Cass. Yes, Enzo and Big Cass. One is a rapist and the other is an rear end. They never take the blame, they’re desperate for fame, they’re Enzo and Big Cass, Cass, Cass, Cass, Cass, Cass, Cass. gently caress OFF 07/04/16 – Simon Gotch: one half of the Vaudevillains, spent a year jobbing on Smackdown to little fanfare, team was broken up for no reason when he was released FAIL 07/04/16 – Aiden English: the other half of the Vaudevillains, spent a year jobbing on Smackdown to little fanfare, team was broken up for no reason when Gotch was released, switched to a singer gimmick that shouldn’t have worked but did, formed unlikely friendship with Rusev that got massively over, ended up sidelined until the pair were broken up for no reason, aired a bunch of videos pretending that he’d hooked up with Lana even though it was clear that he hadn’t, now doing commentary for 205 Live, FAIL 07/04/16 – Paige: first ever NXT Women’s champion, debuted on main roster by beating AJ Lee for the Divas title, character stagnated as champion, dropped the belt back to AJ, still treated AJ like best friend, finally turned heel on AJ, won the Divas title again, turned face again, feuded with the Bellas, allied with Charlotte and Becky to start the Women’s Revolution, stable was named the Submission Sorority until later changed to Team PCB, turned on Charlotte and Becky after missing out on a title shot, aligned with the Total Divas team for WM32, hooked up with Alberto Del Rio off-screen, suspended for breaking Wellness policy, suspended for breaking Wellness policy again, broke up with Alberto Del Rio off-screen, returned with Sonya and Mandy to form Absolution, injured by Sasha a month later and forced to retire, impressed as Smackdown GM, removed from GM role in kayfabe as punishment for poor TV ratings out-of-kayfabe, now managing the Kabuki Warriors when they can be bothered to give them air time, SUCCESS 09/05/16 – Dana Brooke: debut angle with Emma was cut short due to injury to the latter, formed an alliance with Charlotte, turned face on Charlotte after multiple insults, was entertaining as statistician for Titus Worldwide before they were broken up for no reason, been a jobber ever since, FAIL 19/07/16 – Mojo Rawley: debuted as a supplemental draft pick, won the Andre the Giant battle royal at WM33 because he’s friends with the Gronk, had a jobber run with Zack Ryder as the Hype Bros until they were broken up for no reason, now staring into mirrors and drawing on his face with Sharpie, FAIL 19/07/16 – Nia Jax: debuted on Raw with a strong push as a monster heel, injured Bayley, became BFFs with Alexa Bliss until her sudden but inevitable betrayal, beat Alexa for the Raw Women’s title at WM34 in a huge success for the body positive movement, injured Alexa, turned heel and teamed up with Tamina, injured Becky right before her big money match with Ronda Rousey, entered the men’s Royal Rumble, finally injured herself, will no doubt always have a spot on the roster due to her size, FINE 26/06/16 – Carmella: debuted as wrestler despite predominantly working as manager in NXT, formed a relationship with James Ellsworth, won the first ever Women’s Money in the Bank match when Ellsworth retrieved the briefcase, won the second ever Women’s Money in the Bank match two days later, relationship with Ellsworth turned into kinky sex foreplay, mercifully dumped Ellsworth not long after, cashed in on Charlotte to become Smackdown Women’s champion, beat Asuka twice thanks to distractions from a returning Ellsworth, dumped Ellsworth again, dropped the Smackdown Women’s belt back to Charlotte, died her hair brown and turned face in the process, won Mixed Match Challenge S2 with R-Truth, established the 7 second dance break, currently helping R-Truth keep the 24/7 title, regularly featured for comedy spots, SUCCESS 25/07/16 – Finn Balor: gained huge popularity in Japan, big name on NXT with a title reign to his name, debuted and pushed straight to the Universal title, vacated the belt 24 hours later due to injury, returned to little fanfare, picked up a concussion from Jinder Mahal, feud with Seth Rollins was a highlight of 2018, celebrated the gays at WM, shunted off to feud with Baron Corbin for months, looked like a legitimate threat against Brock Lesnar, won the Intercontinental title twice during terrible feud with Lashley, traded to Smackdown and disappeared, sold out the gay community for Saudi blood money, dropped the Intercontinental belt to Nakamura, murdered by the Fiend, on sabbatical, will always have a spot in the midcard if he wants it, SUCCESS 26/07/16 – Alexa Bliss: debuted as wrestler despite primarily being used as a manager in NXT, beat Becky to become Smackdown Women’s champion, befriended Mickie, turned on Mickie, dropped the belt to Naomi at WM, traded to Raw and quickly became Raw Women’s champion, befriended Nia, turned on Nia, dropped the belt to Nia at WM, won Money in the Bank and cashed in on Nia on the same night, jobbed out hard to Ronda Rousey, befriended Mickie… again?, got a whole bunch of concussions, befriended Nikki, won the Women’s Tag Team title, still featured prominently despite being held together by string and prayers, SUCCESS 02/08/16 – Jason Jordan: debuted as part of American Alpha and was instantly ignored for months, came back and dominated the Smackdown tag division, revealed to be the estranged son of Kurt Angle and jumped to Raw, formed an unlikely partnership with Seth Rollins that won the Raw Tag Team titles, began a slow burn transition to an entitled heel gimmick that was getting over huge until forced to retire from neck injury, FAIL (but this one isn’t really their fault) 02/08/16 – 22/08/16 – Bayley: one of the Four Horsewomen, touted as a can’t miss prospect after NXT Women’s title run, debuted to huge acclaim at Battleground, feuded with Charlotte over the Raw Women’s title for months, won the belt and broke Charlotte’s undefeated on PPV streak …a month before Wrestlemania, dropped the belt to Alexa because she wouldn’t use a kendo stick, out for months after getting injured by Nia, friendship with Sasha fell apart, friendship with Sasha was restored, friendship with Sasha fell apart, friendship with Sasha was restored, friendship with Sasha fell apart, friendship with Sasha was restored and they became first ever Women’s Tag Team champions, vowed to carry the women’s tag team division, immediately dropped the belts to the IIconics at WM, team with Sasha was broken up after she wouldn’t get up off the floor of her hotel, traded to Smackdown, beat Charlotte for the Smackdown Women’s title, was a bitch to Nikki and Alexa, one of the few featured women in a division gone to poo poo, SUCCESS 13/12/16 – 18/12/16 – Austin Aries: debuted on commentary, scrapped with Neville during an interview to set up a Cruiserweight title feud, lost to Neville at WM33, was immediately released. FAIL (it’s probably for the best) 29/01/17 – Tye Dillinger: journeyman wrestler who got over in NXT with the Perfect 10 gimmick, debuted in the Royal Rumble at #10, somehow got into a triple threat PPV match with AJ Styles and Baron Corbin, otherwise ignored, talked his way into a release, now smacking in Cody’s head and working with Tully Blanchard as one of AEW’s most important heels, FAIL 30/01/17 – Samoa Joe: strong run in NXT including two runs as NXT champion, debuted in hot angle with Seth Rollins, treated as a serious threat by Brock Lesnar, hovered around the main event for months, traded to Smackdown, feuded with AJ Styles for months in a series of underwhelming matches with bad finishes, definitely hosed Wendy, won the US title, drafted back to Raw, traded the US belt back and forth with Rey Mysterio, dropped the belt to Ricochet, didn’t attack Roman Reigns with a forklift, has a permanent featured spot on the roster, just turn face already god drat, SUCCESS 04/03/17 – The Revival: main roster debut was immediately interrupted by an injury to Dash, return to main roster was immediately interrupted by an injury to Dawson, re-returned to get jobbed out to DX and the Balor Club, feuded with Lucha House Party in a series of matches where they were outnumbered despite being the heels, were namedropped by Seth Rollins as the biggest waste of talent on the roster, won the Raw Tag Team titles and did nothing with them until dropping them to Zack Ryder and Curt Hawkins at WM35, shaved each other’s backs and rubbed Ice Hot on their balls in a terrible feud with the Usos, had a second nothing Raw Tag Team title reign, last seen trading wins for the 24/7 title, #FTR, FAIL 04/04/17 – Shinsuke Nakamura: one of the biggest stars in Japan and former NXT champion, blessed with a killer theme tune, debuted into feud with Dolph Ziggler, beaten in a WWE title match by Jinder Mahal, won the 2018 Royal Rumble, dream match at WM with AJ Styles fell flat, turned heel over love of whacking AJ in the gonads, feuded with AJ for months in a series of underwhelming matches with bad finishes, won the US title and proclaimed the United States of Nakamerica, disappeared for months while still champion, formed unlikely tag team with Rusev, team with Rusev was broken up for no reason, re-emerged to beat Finn Balor for the Intercontinal title, disappeared for months while champion again, clearly doesn’t give a poo poo, having a blast surfing, FAIL 10/04/17 – Elias 22/08/17 – Bobby Roode: massive in NXT as a Triple H-inspired heel champion with a killer theme, debuted as a face in a feud with Dolph Ziggler, feuded with Randy Orton over the Smackdown Top 10, drafted to Raw and lost in the shuffle until arbitrarily put in a tag team with Chad Gable, held the Raw Tag Team belts for months but you don’t even remember it, had a Rick Rude inspired moustache for 2 weeks, FAIL 22/10/17 – Asuka: undefeated in NXT including a 522 day reign as Women’s champ, continued winning streak upon main roster debut, won the Royal Rumble in 2018, won Mixed Match Challenge S1, took her first loss to Charlotte at WM34, kissed Charlotte’s rear end post-match, unable to beat Carmella for the Smackdown Women’s title for months due to confusion over James Ellsworth’s invisible chin, won the Smackdown Women’s title when Ronda Rousey took out all her competition, not featured on television while champ, dropped the belt to Charlotte a few weeks before WM, couldn’t even win the Women’s Battle Royale, teamed up with Kairi Sane because they’re both Japanese, new team barely featured on television, FAIL 20/11/17 – Fire and Desire: debuted as part of Absolution along with Paige, stable was quickly shelved after Paige retired from injury, spent a long time drifting while improving in ring, Mandy unsuccessfully tried to seduce Jimmy Uso, may be doing a lesbian storyline if they can ever get enough regular screentime, unlikely to be ignored as Mandy is a hot blonde and Sonya is LGBTQ+ FINE 21/11/17 – The Riott Squad: debuted as a trio of disparate wrestlers with no previous connection as a heel stable literally the day after Absolution, spent months tweaking their gimmicks to create a trademark look, never given the limelight but were regularly featured on shows, split up in the 2019 draft, Ruby now out for months through injury, Liv and Sarah have both been ignored since, FAIL (Ruby will probably end up FINE at least) 18/12/17 – Hideo Itami: NXT run was blighted by injury, called up to die on 205 Live, lost motivation and got out of shape, talked his way into an early release, shocked everyone by joining NJPW and becoming their #2 heel, not Shibata’s friend, FAIL 20/02/18 – Buddy Murphy: disappeared from NXT for a year before showing up on 205 Live with a cutting weight story, feuded for the Cruiserweight title for most of the year until he won it in his home country of Australia, started tearing poo poo up big time as Cruiserweight champion until dropping the belt to Tony Nese at WM35, rewarded with a trade to Smackdown where he was promptly… left off television for months, new story as witness to Roman Reigns’s attempted murder might be going somewhere but it’s too early to tell, FAIL (for now) 09/04/18 – Ember Moon: came into WWE as one of NXT’s hottest stars following a huge feud with Asuka and a run with the Women’s title, did nothing for months cause Ronda Rousey had just debuted, was off TV for more months through injury, returned to no fanfare in the WM35 women’s battle royale, just got stomped by Bayley throughout her first PPV feud, literally one of the best workers in the division, FAIL 09/04/18 – AOP: looked great in NXT as monster heels backed by Paul Ellering, were called up and split from Paul on their first night, got a meaningless run with the Raw Tag Team titles, made Drake Maverick piss himself, disappeared from TV after one got injured, both men now healthy but still not on TV, FAIL 10/04/18 - The IIconics: debuted by costing Charlotte the Smackdown Women’s title, spent the next year insulting local towns for cheap heat, won the Women’s Tag Team titles at WM35, barely wrestled as champions until dropping the belts to Alexa Bliss and Nikki Cross, likely to stay relevant due to having the right look and decent mic skills, FINE 16/04/18 – Drew McIntyre: much-hyped return to WWE after successful work on indies resulted in run as NXT champion, debuted on main roster 17/04/18 – Andrade 19/06/18 – Sanity: won fans over with chaotic performances on NXT, spent most of their main roster run not being on TV, randomly ended up Shane McMahon’s minions because nothing says anarchy like defending the corporate bosses, quietly disbanded, Alexander Wolfe is now a Nazi on NXT UK, Killian Dain is back on NXT and might get a second shot, Eric Young spends all his time chasing R-Truth around for a comedy title, FAIL 26/06/18 – Lio Rush: pushed out onto 205 Live with little fanfare, impressed enough to get called up to Raw as Bobby’s Lashley 09/09/18 – No Way Jose: NO, NO WAY, NO, NO, NO WAY, FAIL 06/11/18 – Nikki Cross: debuted as part of big NXT callup, started with a big showcase against Becky, dropped into obscurity for months, emerged to form unlikely friendship with Alexa Bliss, pair are currently Women’s Tag Team champions, can expect to be highlighted for as long as she’s with Alexa, FINE 14/01/19 – Heavy Machinery: debuted as part of big NXT callup, Otis immediately regressed to horny caveman, lost their surnames, disappeared, showed up to feud with Daniel Bryan and Rowan for a couple of months, disappeared again, FAIL 21/01/19 – Lacey Evans: debuted as part of big NXT callup, established an alt-right dogwhistle gimmick, spent months walking out to the ring and immediately leaving, got into a post-WM feud with Becky that was even worse, beaten on PPV three times and has not been seen since, FAIL 04/02/19 – EC3: returned to NXT with big fanfare after refining his gimmick on Impact, debuted as part of big NXT callup, immediately treated as a jobber besides a win over a leaving Dean Ambrose, now chasing R-Truth through arenas all over the country, constantly looks depressed, FAIL 18/02/19 – D.I.Y.: called up to the main roster while still closing out their multiple year-long story arc for the NXT title, worked on the main roster as a team while feuding on NXT, Ciampa got injured and had to vacate the title before the climatic match, Gargano returned to NXT full-time and has been putting on epics with Adam Cole ever since, FAIL 18/02/19 – Aleister Black: absolute star in NXT with an NXT title run to his name, debuted in random team with Ricochet that was highly featured, split up in the 2019 draft when he was switched to Smackdown, now spends all his time in a dark room begging people to come fight him, has had three televised matches since going solo, FAIL 18/02/19 – Ricochet: also an absolute star in NXT despite a short stay, debuted in random team with Aleister Black that was highly featured, split up in the 2019 draft when he stayed on Raw, now feuding with AJ Styles over the US title, matches aren’t as good but he feels established and it’s still early days, FINE 26/03/19 – Oney Lorcan: debuted onto 205 Live, RIP, FAIL 08/04/19 – Lars Sullivan: debut delayed for months due to mental health issues, revealed to have made racist and anti-Semitic posts on forums in youth, beat up Lucha House Party for a couple of months, merked by Kalisto and currently on the injured list, FAIL (SO FAR) 15/04/19 – War Raiders: undefeated on NXT leading to run as NXT Tag Team champions, called up to main roster while still champions, THE VIKING EXPERIENCE, heat instantly killed, have been squashing jobbers ever since, will apparently never actually do anything else, FAIL 16/04/19 – Kairi Sane: most popular female wrestler in NXT’s history, emotional feud with Io Shirai was called off for main roster call up, debuted in tag team with Asuka because Japanese people, disappeared from television, earned a Women’s Tag Team title shot against the IIconics, disappeared from television again, lost their title shot when the IIconics walked out on the match, disappeared from television again again, what the actual gently caress, FAIL 01/07/19 – Street Profits: setup as the focus of NXT’s tag division for 2019 with title win, called up to main roster while still champions, but only to stay in the back and make funny noises?, totally not Private Party, WHO THE gently caress KNOWS Rarity fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Aug 21, 2019 |
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Aug 21, 2019 15:35
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so that's a record of 18/44/9. if you put successes and fines together, you have like a 50% chance at best of succeeding on the main roster (without adding kurt angle to the mix).
Hefty Leftist fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Aug 21, 2019 |
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Aug 21, 2019 15:47
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oney lorcan debuted that new gimmick at the end of smackdown so it doesn't make sense to call him worse than a "fail so far" and even that is pushing it
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Rarity posted:Holy poo poo WWE sucks Well this was an enjoyable and informative read 
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Worth noting that there are rumors that Kairi's contract is up in March, and if they manage to drive her off even with what she's stated her goals are, WWE is insanely stupid even by their own standards. She's not even asking to win major titles. She just wants to wrestle regularly on TV, and bring smiles to peoples faces, according to an interview she did shortly before the WWE Japan show. And I wouldn't be shocked if she eventually reveals one of her issues was the whole Kabuki Warriors thing. Kairi was brought up, it seemed inevitable they were going to win the titles from the IIconics until Alexa expressed interest in the tag titles. But instead Vince takes her off of TV, and puts all of the focus on Charlotte, Becky, and Alexa. Hell, I would go as far to say that Smackdown is literally just the Charlotte, Alexa, and Bayley show as far as booking is concerned for the women. With occasional cameos by other women so they can job to the three people I listed above. And the moment Bayley loses that title is the moment she fades back into obscurity. DarkstarIV fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Aug 21, 2019 |
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Hefty Leftist posted:so that's a record of 18/44/9. if you put successes and fines together, you have like a 50% chance at best of succeeding on the main roster (without adding kurt angle to the mix). Hasn't that been the case with WWF going back to 80s though?
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DarkstarIV posted:Worth noting that there are rumors that Kairi's contract is up in March, and if they manage to drive her off even with what she's stated her goals are, WWE is insanely stupid even by their own standards. She's not even asking to win major titles. She just wants to wrestle regularly on TV, and bring smiles to peoples faces, according to an interview she did shortly before the WWE Japan show. And I wouldn't be shocked if she eventually reveals one of her issues was the whole Kabuki Warriors thing. Kairi was brought up, it seemed inevitable they were going to win the titles from the IIconics until Alexa expressed interest in the tag titles. They've big plans for Bayley and all the Horsewomen between now and Wrestlemania. Kairi is #1 on Kenny Omega's AEW hitlist. But I don't know where these rumours are coming from. Calls ups typically sign new contracts when they get called up to the main roster and those are typically 3 years long.
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rovert posted:They've big plans for Bayley and all the Horsewomen between now and Wrestlemania. What about everyone else?
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Aug 21, 2019 16:07
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I dont give the singlest gently caress about the horsewomen
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Aug 21, 2019 16:10
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rovert posted:They've big plans for Bayley and all the Horsewomen between now and Wrestlemania. Point being? Not everyone here salivates over the WWE 4HW dominating both women's title scenes up until Wrestlemania. And Shayna being a millstone around the neck of the NXT Women's Division means there isn't much to do down there either. I don't think its a hot take to expect women other than the WWE 4HW to get a featured spotlight. Especially since Charlotte ALWAYS gets the spotlighted feud. Her feud with Trish had the most attention from a creative standpoint, even though it shouldn't have been, and she should have curtain jerked or been placed much earlier in the card. The Smackdown Women's Roster is loaded with talent, but the majority of them get no time to shine. Because if its not Bayley or Charlotte taking up the spotlight, its Alexa. And any woman outside of that who may get into the picture is treated incredibly poorly (see Ember Moon being completely geeked out in her feud with Bayley). Hell, they had an easy layup with Kairi winning the MYC and eventually becoming one of their biggest stars. But they hosed that up by constantly having Shayna go over her and never getting comeuppance at the end of the day. And until they turned Io heel, she was even worse off. And if AEW decides to pull the trigger and crown someone like Shida or Riho their first ever women's champion, it'll pretty much cement AEW as the place for joshi to sign to if they want to work for a major company in America. Opposed to WWE where your ceiling on the main roster is not appearing on TV unless they want you to job to someone (likely Charlotte or Alexa). DarkstarIV fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Aug 21, 2019 |
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Rarity posted:NXT callups - FAIL Holy poo poo I did not expect my idle pontificating on how badly WWE has hosed up their incredibly talented roster to produce such results, thank you Rarity Notice how it's a seemingly decent ratio until Tyler Breeze, after which it completely loving plummets. TriffTshngo fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Aug 21, 2019 |
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You guys I'm beginning to think WWE loving stinks and is only successful in spite of itself! Can I get an AEW?
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DarkstarIV posted:Point being? Not everyone here salivates over the WWE 4HW dominating both women's title scenes up until Wrestlemania. And Shayna being a millstone around the neck of the NXT Women's Division means there isn't much to do down there either. I get they aren't Joshis so you don't like them. But people do care about the Horsewomen they all get big reactions. Two of them were accepted as Wrestlemania headliners this year. Anyway, where is this Kairi rumour coming from as it doesn't make much sense? Was it just a Google translation of her tweet a few days ago and that's it? I read this tweet as "I am just getting started" personally and look at the optimistic photo choice too. https://twitter.com/KairiSaneWWE/status/1163354190443360256
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I just wish that another women's wrestling storyline could be built at the same time. Ember is so talented that I wish she could get on WM in a singles match but WWE hasn't built her up, her character is so undefined and she could go with Asuka but that would require WWE making a callback to their NXT days which I don't have confidence in.
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It occurred to me, WWE is so far gone I’m not even sure what a “good” WWE would look like. Imagine a world where the entire McMahon family gets raptured (including HHH), or if you prefer, bursts into flames. What does the company do to get things back on track? Off the top of my head cutting RAW back to two hours and stopping the ridiculous 7+ hour pay per views would be a good place to start. I’d also probably look at making Mauro the main commentator for anything important. (RAW, all PPVs) Edit: Oh I suppose severing ties with the Saudi royal family should probably be at the top of the list.
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fatherofmustard posted:What about everyone else? This is funny Watch out Dolph, you’ve got competition in the stand-up comedy business too
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The womens WM main event loving sucked why some people still put that thing as a positive?
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DoctorGonzo posted:The womens WM main event loving sucked why some people still put that thing as a positive? I didn't express an opinion on the match. I wasn't a fan. Just they were accepted as the main event.
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The WWE Horsewomen are so damaged for me I really don’t care about them. Flair is the John Cena of the women’s division and not in the good way. She’s almost always involved in title matches last minute without any really good storylines going into them. Sometimes she cuts a passable promo, sometimes she puts on an above average match but as the face of the women’s division she really doesn’t have the natural charisma to pull it off, in or out of the ring. I can’t even recall storylines involving her that aren’t attatched to the title belt. Becky has suffered a lot from bad feuds since WM killing some of her heat, and hasn’t evolved as a person much since becoming “the man” unless you want to toss in the couple weeks WWE thought they could make money off the incredibly awkward on screen appearances with Rollins. Bayley should’ve been huge for WWE but they’ve made her look like a total geek for so long and stripped a personality from her so she’s turned into a one note character. Sasha is well, Sasha. The fans really want her, but Sasha doesn’t want the WWE, and Vince doesn’t seem to want Sasha. Sure they’ll all get rehabbed and we’ll get a “This is awesome” chant once they stand off against the MMA women but WWE has sucked all the wind out of these people that it’s going to be less of a “holy poo poo finally” type of moment and more like seeing DX and NWO waddle out at Wrestlemania in a match between Triple H and Sting. Way too late to be relevant.
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lmao at calling Kevin Owens a success
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Quantum of Phallus posted:lmao at calling Kevin Owens a success i mean, compared to sami zayn whose current character is "world's biggest dipshit loser" he's wildly successful
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rovert posted:I get they aren't Joshis so you don't like them. But people do care about the Horsewomen they all get big reactions. Two of them were accepted as Wrestlemania headliners this year. He has a point. There hasn't been a Raw or SD women's title match that didn't involve a horsewoman since March. They should push other women.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:lmao at calling Kevin Owens a success Calling Axel and Dallas as "fine"
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fatherofmustard posted:He has a point. There hasn't been a Raw or SD women's title match that didn't involve a horsewoman since March. They should push other women. I agree with that. Just you are going to get a lot of Horsewomen stuff between now and Wrestlemania that's all. Also individually for the time being a lot of Sasha's booking will revolve around keeping her happy. Davros1 posted:Calling Axel and Dallas as "fine" Neither had a high ceiling. Quantum of Phallus posted:lmao at calling Kevin Owens a success Most long WWE careers have their ups and downs to be fair look at Chris Jericho's career, for example, there are big gaps in time where he was doing very little of note. rovert fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Aug 21, 2019 |
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Davros1 posted:Calling Axel and Dallas as "fine"
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Davros1 posted:Calling Axel and Dallas as "fine" For their ability level, drat right
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jesus WEP posted:theyre about where they belong on the card Which is to say "Not on the card at all".
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Any joshi could put a better match than the entire Female main event-upper card. What is this bullshit "well they are not joshis". The wwe women roster is overhyped as gently caress
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Davros1 posted:Which is to say "Not on the card at all". Sounds fine to me
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I should probably also mention that not everyone wanted to see Charlotte shoehorned into the Wrestlemania Main Event (which she 100% was, and viewers didn't accept it at all). And it resulted in an entire brand's women's division being completely hosed over in the process when Vince decided it would be a GENIUS idea to put both titles on the line, taking the title off of Asuka in the process. Completely screwing Asuka and another woman on the SDL roster out of an actual spot on the WM card that isn't the battle royal. All so Vince could do Becky Two Belts...which he got bored of almost immediately and had Becky lose one three weeks later. They could have used the SDL Women's Title at WM to do a Charlotte/Asuka rematch, with Asuka getting her win back, and building another star in the process. But nope. They had to justify Charlotte in the main event, and Vince almost certainly got pissy at the ESPN interview as well with how they handled Charlotte's "accolades". DarkstarIV fucked around with this message at 16:52 on Aug 21, 2019 |
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The main event would have been way worse if Charlotte wasn't in it
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DoctorGonzo posted:Any joshi could put a better match than the entire Female main event-upper card. What is this bullshit "well they are not joshis". The wwe women roster is overhyped as gently caress As DarkstarIV only seems to care about Joshis. And WWE isn't primarily about matches. A lot of the women's division is promo driven. A skill Asuka and Kairi Sane, unfortunately, do not have given their level of English. Likewise, Sarah Logan and Ember Moon weren't exactly blessed with mic skills either hence they are where they are on the card. DarkstarIV posted:I should probably also mention that not everyone wanted to see Charlotte shoehorned into the Wrestlemania Main Event (which she 100% was). And it resulted in an entire brand's women's division being completely hosed over in the process when Vince decided it would be a GENIUS idea to put both titles on the line, taking the title off of Asuka in the process. Completely screwing Asuka and another woman on the SDL roster out of an actual spot on the WM card that isn't the battle royal. The Horsewomen are popular yes. That's why they will be pushed strongly between now and Wrestlemania. With the FOX launch it only makes sense to do so. rovert fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Aug 21, 2019 |
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OctoberCountry posted:The main event would have been way worse if Charlotte wasn't in it It would have been bad either way, and Charlotte being shoehorned into it almost completely killed any real anticipation of the match. Especially the way they went around it. Becky went from rear end kicking anti authority babyface to...kissing the rear end of the authority in an attempt to get back in. rovert posted:As DarkstarIV only seems to care about Joshis. They aren't as popular as you think they are. I'm almost certain by time October rolls around, everyone will be sick of them in the title scene, shutting out other women who also deserve a chance to be the face of the company or in the spotlight. Because if you are right, the WWE 4HW are going to dominate the division all the way until Wrestlemania, while every other woman outside of that group that isn't named Alexa will get little to no exposure at all. And guess what? That loving sucks, and is garbage trash. Fatigue is going to set in very rapidly if its those same four women in the title pictures from now until then. DarkstarIV fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Aug 21, 2019 |
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DoctorGonzo posted:The womens WM main event loving sucked why some people still put that thing as a positive?  Ronda dropped the ball in key moments but not enough to say it "loving sucked". Like, Jenna Morasca vs Sharmell loving sucked. Bischoff vs Teddy Long loving sucked. That Jackie Gayda Match loving sucked. Triple H vs Batista this year loving sucked for 25 minutes straight. Becky/Charlotte/Ronda was fine.
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DarkstarIV posted:It would have been bad either way, and Charlotte being shoehorned into it almost completely killed any real anticipation of the match. Especially the way they went around it. Becky went from rear end kicking anti authority babyface to...kissing the rear end of the authority in an attempt to get back in. If the match was going to bad either way then why are you complaining about Charlotte being in it?
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um who is slandering Bo Dallas, his ceiling is much higher than total goober jobber. Hes like a honky tonk man level of talent. (that is not slandering Bo Dallas)
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