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Geemer posted:Apparently the new Geforce Experience 3.0 requires you to log into a Nvidia, Facebook or Google account. Which loving rear end in a top hat thought that was a good idea? Even better, GFE 2 apparently will not let you start the program at all anymore, and it just goes straight to the download for GFE 3. Which crashed during installation for me but not before having uninstalled GFE 2, which no longer shows up in the windows program list or search. Thank you for forcibly deleting your own software from my system nvidia, solid update 
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GFE has done that crash on first install for me for a long time. Then it always installs fine the second try.
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Sep 9, 2016 03:25
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Any guesses if the current Nvidia prices are fairly stable or think we are still in the new release price bubble?
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Sep 9, 2016 04:35
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Naffer posted:The 470 is cut in two ways. It has 11% fewer shaders (2048/2304 = 89%) Also a 12% cut to texture units, 144 -> 128. The 470 is a pretty nice little card, especially for anyone with a 1080p monitor that wants to punt on bigger decisions for a year. I think the stupidly crowded price structure of the 4x0 series is the best evidence that polaris didn't achieve everything that AMD wanted for it. $150 - 180 - 200 - 230 is just dumb, they must have been aiming for higher with the 480. I predict that will get a 480X respin once they're done with the other stuff on their plate (new PS4s, Zen, Vega). FuzzySlippers posted:Any guesses if the current Nvidia prices are fairly stable or think we are still in the new release price bubble? I'd guess you're looking at 1070s then since they still have the biggest premium? The ~$400 area is popular and totally reasonable for most budgets, and the only competition that board makers have is between themselves. As long as stock keeps moving, they have zero reason to drop prices. So I'd say those will stay high for a while yet -- it's about to be fall release time so I predict gamers will lose patience and shell out the extra $50. 1060s are already available at MSRP or very close to it (6GB for $250 still sells out quick, but you can probably find one most days). 1080s have a pretty tiny premium, percent-wise. So still new release bubble, but it's not gonna suddenly pop or anything. They'll keep trending down, but really really slowly. The build-up of demand has been bigger than anything that's ever happened before -- it almost 2 years between major releases, and 28nm has been going since 2013.
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Sep 9, 2016 06:13
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Haha, if you mistype your login information in Geforce Experience 3.0 one too many times, you will be locked out for 30 minutes, because clearly, your video driver requires more security than, say, your banking account.
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Sep 9, 2016 06:19
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Digirat posted:Even better, GFE 2 apparently will not let you start the program at all anymore, and it just goes straight to the download for GFE 3. Which crashed during installation for me but not before having uninstalled GFE 2, which no longer shows up in the windows program list or search. I'm wondering if I'm missing something since my GFE is still exactly the same as always, last driver update being the one on 30/08 mentioning BF1, no changes since.
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Sep 9, 2016 07:05
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Klyith posted:I'd guess you're looking at 1070s then since they still have the biggest premium? Yep looking at 1070s as I start the process of getting into VR stuff. I wasn't planning on buying a headset for a few months, but I've got a 670 so I was thinking of going ahead on the 1070 now so I could play some games I've been waiting on a GPU upgrade to play. I know usually GPUs stabilize after the release hoopla at a price point and don't move a lot from there but I was dithering on if prices are about to fall further. Sounds like I shouldn't expect that anytime soon.
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Sep 9, 2016 07:07
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mcbexx posted:Haha, if you mistype your login information in Geforce Experience 3.0 one too many times, you will be locked out for 30 minutes, because clearly, your video driver requires more security than, say, your banking account. My banking account doesn't allow more than 16 characters for a password. Two years ago it didn't allow more than 10. 
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Sep 9, 2016 07:42
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Digirat posted:Even better, GFE 2 apparently will not let you start the program at all anymore, and it just goes straight to the download for GFE 3. Which crashed during installation for me but not before having uninstalled GFE 2, which no longer shows up in the windows program list or search. So, I'm guessing Nvidia saw that lovely derail about which company had the worst drivers/accompanying software and wanted to settle the argument once and for all.
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Sep 9, 2016 10:57
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Geemer posted:So, I'm guessing Nvidia saw that lovely derail about which company had the worst drivers/accompanying software and wanted to settle the argument once and for all.
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Sep 9, 2016 11:18
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FuzzySlippers posted:Any guesses if the current Nvidia prices are fairly stable or think we are still in the new release price bubble? They'll start bundling games people may or may not be interested in, and when that promotion ends the prices will dip $10-$20. If your deciding when to buy, I don't think you'll save boatloads or anything.
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Sep 9, 2016 13:21
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FuzzySlippers posted:Any guesses if the current Nvidia prices are fairly stable or think we are still in the new release price bubble? The next significant price drop will probably be when NVIDIA releases a 1080 Ti/1180, which probably won't happen for 6 months or so unless AMD pulls their head out of their rear end and releases a GPU that competes with something other than NVIDIA's slowest product. Otherwise it will just be the natural progression of slow price drops until a refresh. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Sep 9, 2016 |
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Sep 9, 2016 15:19
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Lol I guess creating an account before this change was the way to go because it was smooth sailing in my case
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Sep 9, 2016 15:49
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PerrineClostermann posted:My banking account doesn't allow more than 16 characters for a password. Two years ago it didn't allow more than 10. The project to expand from 10 to 16 probably cost millions of dollars. The incremental cost to increase it to 128 was probably close to zero, but  .
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Sep 9, 2016 16:19
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mcbexx posted:Haha, if you mistype your login information in Geforce Experience 3.0 one too many times, you will be locked out for 30 minutes, because clearly, your video driver requires more security than, say, your banking account. Since the Nvidia Experience more or less is a remote desktop application, I will allow it.
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Sep 9, 2016 19:04
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If my banking account required a password i would probably cancel it. That seems very insecure. Mine works with a little hardware device that you insert your bank card into and challenge from the website + your pin and then it spits out the appropriate response. What i'm saying is Nvidia should issue RSA tokens with their video cards to properly secure GFE, a password no matter how long just won't do.
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Sep 9, 2016 19:17
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NihilismNow posted:If my banking account required a password i would probably cancel it. That seems very insecure. Mine works with a little hardware device that you insert your bank card into and challenge from the website + your pin and then it spits out the appropriate response.
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Sep 9, 2016 19:27
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NihilismNow posted:If my banking account required a password i would probably cancel it. That seems very insecure. Mine works with a little hardware device that you insert your bank card into and challenge from the website + your pin and then it spits out the appropriate response. Haha. Here in the US our banks just open accounts for us. They even helpfully setup email addresses and passwords for us.
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Sep 9, 2016 19:33
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Col.Kiwi posted:This is very interesting. You're talking about logging into your account from a personal computer in your home? What country is this in and what bank? If you don't mind sharing. ABN Amro in the Netherlands. Please don't steal all my money. https://www.abnamro.nl/nl/en/personal/payments/edentifier/index.html The latest one actually doesn't require you to manually type in the challenge, but i still do 
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Sep 9, 2016 19:34
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Col.Kiwi posted:This is very interesting. You're talking about logging into your account from a personal computer in your home? What country is this in and what bank? If you don't mind sharing. Many UK banks do similar, for personal and business accounts.
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Sep 9, 2016 19:42
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My blizzard account has more authentication checks than my bank account. Or Paypal.
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Sep 9, 2016 19:45
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PerrineClostermann posted:My blizzard account has more authentication checks than my bank account. Or Paypal. For most people, it's probably worth more.
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Sep 9, 2016 19:46
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PerrineClostermann posted:My blizzard account has more authentication checks than my bank account. Or Paypal. Yeah my blizzard account is the only account so secure it almost prevented me from accessing it, after not playing for a couple years and forgetting my username/password/email details I had to spend a few days recovering everything. I almost gave up before I finally found a tech support person who probably gave me more info than they were supposed to. Blizzard definitely overestimates human ability to remember all of that poo poo.
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Sep 9, 2016 19:48
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MaxxBot posted:Yeah my blizzard account is the only account so secure it almost prevented me from accessing it, after not playing for a couple years and forgetting my username/password/email details I had to spend a few days recovering everything. I almost gave up before I finally found a tech support person who probably gave me more info than they were supposed to. Blizzard definitely overestimates human ability to remember all of that poo poo. Its 2016 there's no need to remember all 300+ online accounts that you've created over your lifetime. KeePass that stuff.
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Sep 9, 2016 20:18
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Except, you know. Where Keepass was disclosed to have a security vulnerability and the security flaw was declined to be patched because: "8.2.2016 @ 15:45: Received response from Dominik Reichl: The vulnerability will not be fixed. The indirect costs of switching to HTTPS (like lost advertisement revenue) make it a inviable solution." No, what really gets my goat is when there are other family members who can't be arsed to remember their own usernames and passwords and want you to do it for them insteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeead. I mean, like, bitch, I can barely remember my OWN goddamn passwords and usernames, use your own loving brain for once, it's not like you use it for anything else!
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Sep 9, 2016 20:26
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Except, you know. Where Keepass was disclosed to have a security vulnerability and the security flaw was declined to be patched because: When you are aware of the problem it doesn't matter. When you get the update notification go to the website, download the installer but don't install it, just calculate checksum for the file. Then wait couple weeks in case you hear rumblings about exploits, redownload the installer, preferably at work or other computer and recalculate the checksum and make sure it matches. You can then be pretty certain that the installer is authentic. But it is annoying to download installers from non-HTTPS websites, you can never completely trust them.
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Sep 9, 2016 20:52
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Col.Kiwi posted:This is very interesting. You're talking about logging into your account from a personal computer in your home? What country is this in and what bank? If you don't mind sharing. HSBC in the UK does this (more or less), plus requiring you answer a question like 'what was your first school called' every time. US banking is famously a bit Stone Age. feedmegin fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Sep 9, 2016 |
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Sep 9, 2016 20:56
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Saukkis posted:When you are aware of the problem it doesn't matter. When you get the update notification go to the website, download the installer but don't install it, just calculate checksum for the file. Then wait couple weeks in case you hear rumblings about exploits, redownload the installer, preferably at work or other computer and recalculate the checksum and make sure it matches. You can then be pretty certain that the installer is authentic. Easy peasy.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:Except, you know. Where Keepass was disclosed to have a security vulnerability and the security flaw was declined to be patched because: People use the automatic updates? I just decline them.
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Sep 9, 2016 21:03
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feedmegin posted:HSBC in the UK does this (more or less), plus requiring you answer a question like 'what was your first school called' every time. US banking is famously a bit Stone Age. gently caress that sort of question, it's like they're loving optimizing for ease of lookup from social media, and they're from a small enough set that even if it isn't public it's just a really really bad password.
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Sep 9, 2016 21:24
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Alzion posted:Its 2016 there's no need to remember all 300+ online accounts that you've created over your lifetime. KeePass that stuff. One time many, many years ago I used this program and spent days remembering or otherwise recovering passwords for accounts and emails spanning back to the late 90's. It was a huge ordeal, but I was very pleased to so thoroughly accomplish this. I put it on a waterproof and "guaranteed" tough and secure thumb drive, and then encrypted all of it once again with truecrypt (before the whole thing happened with that). Of course this took up a relatively tiny amount of space so one day I wanted to play a movie on my xbox and couldn't find my normal USB drives. So I used that one. The xbox reformatted it. Without asking, or even telling me what it did.  I wrote it all off and used one password for everything for a long time after that. I don't anymore, I have to remember probably close to 10 unique passwords all the time now.
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feedmegin posted:HSBC in the UK does this (more or less), plus requiring you answer a question like 'what was your first school called' every time. US banking is famously a bit Stone Age.
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Sep 9, 2016 21:35
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All I can say, is password MAX SIZE limits are the friggin worst. I don't want to use some short mixed set password that's easier than hell for computers to crack, but is hard for me to remember. I have been using easy for me to remember, longer phrases that make sense to only me, but there is always that one site (Bank, some other "professional institution" usually) that has their max size is 8 char or something stupid, but also has to have a #, Upper and Lowercase letter, Special Character, etc..  Maybe I am falling for a bit of that XKCD comic, but It has been a lot easier to remember unique passwords for each account, rather than using the same few complex passwords spread around various accounts. Keeping complex ones saved, anywhere, seems like it sort of defeats the whole purpose and usually just screws yourself when you happen to forget a pass and need it but it's not accessible. :/
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NihilismNow posted:If my banking account required a password i would probably cancel it. That seems very insecure. Mine works with a little hardware device that you insert your bank card into and challenge from the website + your pin and then it spits out the appropriate response. I thought that was standard practice for banks.
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Sep 9, 2016 22:14
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I also have a little dingus that I log into my bank with but it doesn't require my card, just a username on the website and a PIN on the dingus for it to give me the timed access code. I think there's an option to use a password instead but I can't imagine why you'd want that.
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I do wish nVidia would confirm/deny a mobile 1050 part. I've got a friend who needs to upgrade her laptop to something that will run games with all the bells and whistles at 1080p...and I can't with good reservation recommend a 960M to her due to its age and processing anemia, and 965Ms are too rare. I'm not particularly enthusiastic about the 1050 only have 768 CUDA cores, either - but it's got to be faster than the 960M.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I do wish nVidia would confirm/deny a mobile 1050 part. I've got a friend who needs to upgrade her laptop to something that will run games with all the bells and whistles at 1080p...and I can't with good reservation recommend a 960M to her due to its age and processing anemia, and 965Ms are too rare. I'm not particularly enthusiastic about the 1050 only have 768 CUDA cores, either - but it's got to be faster than the 960M. Any reason why a 1060 equiped laptop is not being considered? That would do what you're friend needs it to and there are some pretty light and slim models.
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Or... or, consider this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi7gbWPXCXg
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I do wish nVidia would confirm/deny a mobile 1050 part. I've got a friend who needs to upgrade her laptop to something that will run games with all the bells and whistles at 1080p...and I can't with good reservation recommend a 960M to her due to its age and processing anemia, and 965Ms are too rare. I'm not particularly enthusiastic about the 1050 only have 768 CUDA cores, either - but it's got to be faster than the 960M. I really wouldn't be surprised if there was a mobile gp107 sometime in the next 6 months or so.
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So to get back on topic (infosec thread is ---> that way)... Xbox One S and all PS4s will be able to do HDR output over HDMI. On PC we've had wide-gamut screens for years and years now, but they've always been generally not recommended for casual users because only some programs take advantage of it natively. And for everything else (movies, games) you end up with worse color because standard sRGB gets stretched out -- or you run the monitor in a compatibility mode and have paid extra money for nothing. So with the new DCI-P3 color space being a consumer display standard, and video game consoles taking advantage of it, will PC games also incorporate native wide gamut? Note that most computer monitors with wide gamut are calibrated around the Adobe RGB standard, which is different than DCI-P3. (The lovely thing about standards is there are so many to chose from! )(There's also a future standard, which is already supported by HDMI 2.0 as a signal type, called Rec 2020 that we don't even have the technology to display yet. People are saying that we will need screens based on new technology like quantum dots to actually output that many colors.)
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