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Kashuno posted:We think relying exclusively on meta reads is dumb. Do not continue to disappoint us with your stupid reads that would make even the grass turn red with anger. If you keep this up you will surely be listed as scum when we make a list. Try harder next time I will always always always make meta reads but I have actually been backing it up with reasoning for why the actions themselves are scummy, which people are welcome to disagree with. Your isolation of the meta read is disingenuous and misleading scumshuno.
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 16:50 |
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# ? Jun 16, 2024 19:20 |
Your meta reads won't work on me this game Tobbs. I'm playing a clean, honest, serious game; and I encourage others to do so as well. If we play this completely 100% seriously I don't see how scum could stand a chance against a united town front!
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 16:51 |
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Infinitum posted:Your meta reads won't work on me this game Tobbs. I...I think you're town though.
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 16:53 |
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idk, I buy Leather's suspicion. There's still no good town reason for claim bp so early and even if he is, it's not like it's actually something that would prove Keane's alignment.
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 16:55 |
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Flying Leatherman posted:And that's why I'm pulling it out and examining it let's see if a robot votecount works: nope! congratulations robot you are still dead to me. votecount incoming by hand like always.
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 16:55 |
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chaoslord posted:A sampling of Keane posts from other recent games Thanks, this is actually helpful. Like I said earlier, I don't think I've ever played a game with Keane. Tobbs, now I'm confused, though. Was it a breadcrumb? Should we not have talked about it at all? Did it end up not mattering in the end? Cause now you're posting about how this was jokey shitposting, which kinda conflicts with you bending over backwards earlier to tell me to not talk about this "breadcrumb" like it was a serious thing that FL definitely shouldn't have pointed out omg. Tobbs Gnawed posted:I don't give a poo poo about Keane's post and I read over it because I can do literally nothing about anyone's stupidass breadcrumbs. Then why engage for five posts telling me that talking about it is a bad idea and discussing what breadcrumbs are or are not? I don't know where you're getting this idea that my mindset is "scum would do this"; if I were still under the impression that this was a serious thing (thanks CL for clearing it up), I would have pegged Keane as 3P survivor/SK based on his claim, not as "town trying to dodge a nightkill". The mindset was "Town would not do this". EccoRaven posted:nope! congratulations robot you are still dead to me. Yeah, something's up. Working on it. Sorry!
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 16:57 |
Vote out FL so he has more time to fix Votefinder Also change Votefinder's avatar to I will put money towards this.
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:01 |
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:I will always always always make meta reads but I have actually been backing it up with reasoning for why the actions themselves are scummy, which people are welcome to disagree with. We wondered if perhaps our memory got jumbled in all this posting, but we went back and found this! BEHOLD: Tobbs Gnawed posted:Like, say what you will, but scum Keane does actually serious post and he got nailed in FF2 for it actually. Shitposting jokester Keane is town Keane. Tobbs Gnawed posted:Why did OMG only post a couple things that google couldn't even translate for me? Tobbs Gnawed posted:I played with FL for all of two seconds in Ecco's Kingmaker, and his scum meta was to be incredibly nitpicky about what he thought scum would or wouldn't do and jump on posts that illustrated that. Tobbs Gnawed posted:Someone call TMM scum so I can see if he's scum or not. Feast your eyes upon your own posts that we believe your eyes previously feasted upon! We also strongly disagree that calling out obvious breadcrumbs is inherently scummy! WE HAVE ISSUES WITH YOUR POSTING~
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:02 |
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Flying Leatherman posted:Tobbs, now I'm confused, though. Was it a breadcrumb? Should we not have talked about it at all? Did it end up not mattering in the end? Cause now you're posting about how this was jokey shitposting, which kinda conflicts with you bending over backwards earlier to tell me to not talk about this "breadcrumb" like it was a serious thing that FL definitely shouldn't have pointed out omg. That's a fairly decent point. I still think that your initial reaction fits with how you behaved as scum, but since that's based on such limited exposure it's practically inconsequential given a reasonable explanation. A 3P X-shot bulletproof probably would claim to be bulletproof practically immediately, so that they could preserve that protection as long as possible, especially if they were a killing role. ##unvote
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:03 |
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We don't understand why you're assuming Keane is 3P if he is BP! Why do you begin third party hunting? It's as if you are a dog who sees a tasty steak but then goes after some gross junk food! We do not like how you are going, young Tobbs.
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:05 |
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someone do me a mitzvah and vote for someone else without unvoting their first person tia
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:12 |
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Flying Leatherman posted:if I were still under the impression that this was a serious thing (thanks CL for clearing it up), I would have pegged Keane as 3P survivor/SK based on his claim, not as "town trying to dodge a nightkill". The mindset was "Town would not do this". Kashuno posted:We don't understand why you're assuming Keane is 3P if he is BP! Why do you begin third party hunting? It's as if you are a dog who sees a tasty steak but then goes after some gross junk food! We do not like how you are going, young Tobbs. I know I'm usually an easy D1 bus for scum, but this is getting a little tiresome. Ignoring the content-related parts of what I'm posting and focusing on meta reads, addressing me when I'm talking to someone else and paraphrasing their own explanations, and turning it into some kind of pseudo-case/callout? Are you afraid to throw a vote down, Kash? I'm not. ##vote Kashuno
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:12 |
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##vote Max
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:12 |
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:##vote Max okay robot you are in my good graces again (I hacked it, I am the john connor of the future to its terminator, I will send it back in time and protect the votecounts)
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:13 |
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##unvote ##vote Kashuno
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:14 |
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Tobbs, we are never afraid to throw down a vote when we find someone to be scumlicious (it's like delicious but gross!) but we have not made a strong enough feeling to throw the vote down. We do not wish to get our precious vote dirty unless we have to, because it requires ~Effort~ you see. we have to pick it up off the planet from all the way up in the cosmos, what a pain.
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:18 |
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I think people are just confused because you're bouncing from taking Keane's comment seriously, to saying it is a joke post, and again. Tobbs Gnawed posted:A 3P X-shot bulletproof probably would claim to be bulletproof practically immediately, so that they could preserve that protection as long as possible,[b] especially if they were a killing role. actually this is really weird, since 1. no one brought up the chance of a killing 3rd, 2. you didn't vote for someone you thought have a chance of being 3rd killer.
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:19 |
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Atomic Soda posted:is this a joke vote also? I pity the fool who didn't read ssv's vote as a joke
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:19 |
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:##unvote unnecessary you were never voting for max in the first place! woo! okay so here is the scoop: - the votecount in the OP and on the website will say it is day 2 until day 2 ends. it is unfortunate but deal with it this is the price I pay for being a leet haxor. - dongsbot will always have been listed as voting for bottleknight, unvoting, and then voting for keane; this is a lie as he never unvoted. he has been punished appropriately. - the robot will now - finally! - only accept votes if you unvoted. so congratulations I am finally replaced by a machine, let us rejoice, less ecco is a better ecco that is not what I say but what I am sure others often say. here's the count! The Current Day 1 Votecount Kashuno (3): TMMadman, Max, Tobbs Gnawed, -Tobbs Gnawed, Tobbs Gnawed chaoslord (2): Murmur Twin, Infinitum Tobbs Gnawed (1): Slamburger BottleKnight (1): this is a stickup, got some chores tonight, -got some chores tonight this is a stickup (1): SirSamVimes Max (1): Pinterest Mom Flying Leatherman (1): chaoslord, Tobbs Gnawed, -Tobbs Gnawed peramene (0): Max, -Max CCKeane (0): got some chores tonight, -got some chores tonight Jonathan Fisk (0): Slamburger, -Slamburger Not Voting (12): Absurd Revolver, Atomic Soda, BottleKnight, CCKeane, Flying Leatherman, got some chores tonight, Jonathan Fisk, Kashuno, Moatillata, OMGVBFLOL, peramene, Tired Moritz With 22 players alive, it takes 12 votes to be executed. The current deadline is January 12th, 2017 at 11 p.m. EST -- that's in about 2 days, 11 hours.
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:20 |
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Tired Moritz posted:I think people are just confused because you're bouncing from taking Keane's comment seriously, to saying it is a joke post, and again. Hm yes we agree! Oh, but we have already said this.
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:21 |
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Murmur Twin posted:To this day I've never seen tobbs' scum game and I'm super curious to see if I can pick it out Tobbs Gnawed posted:It's super obvious once you've seen it. Tobbs Gnawed posted:I have seen scum games from quite a few posters Tobbs Gnawed posted:D1 scum list: Ho boy
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:22 |
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it's you, you're the scum
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:22 |
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Tired Moritz posted:actually this is really weird, since 1. no one brought up the chance of a killing 3rd, 2. you didn't vote for someone you thought have a chance of being 3rd killer. Flying Leatherman posted:if I were still under the impression that this was a serious thing (thanks CL for clearing it up), I would have pegged Keane as 3P survivor/SK based on his claim Flying Leatherman posted:if I were still under the impression that this was a serious thing (thanks CL for clearing it up), I would have pegged Keane as 3P survivor/SK based on his claim Flying Leatherman posted:if I were still under the impression that this was a serious thing (thanks CL for clearing it up), I would have pegged Keane as 3P survivor/SK based on his claim This was posted, by Flying Leatherman, and was the post that I was responding to, and is the post that you and Kashuno are talking about where I am the first person to mention 3P killing. I used some fancy forum tricks to increase the probability of you seeing it. I am hopeful that it works this time.
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:25 |
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Tired Moritz posted:no one brought up the chance of a killing 3rd I actually did.
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:26 |
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Kashuno posted:Hm yes we agree! Oh, but we have already said this. all joking aside though, this is a huge red flag for me. scum tm posting is literally just repeating what is already said in the thread. Tired Moritz posted:By softclaiming BP, it's likely that maf wouldn't risk attacking Keane now, and thus it lowers their target selections. It seems very selfish, especially since a BP wants to get hit. projecting a scum pov Tired Moritz posted:whether or not keane is maf, I am definitely sure that it's a terrible thing to do as town to roleclaim bp d1. why are you definitely sure that this is a terrible thing? can you really think of no circumstance in which a bp claiming is a good thing? Tired Moritz posted:you're ignoring the fact that infintium, tobbs, me, max and kashuno didn't even comment that it's an "obvious joke post". throwing his name with a large amount of people to ensure he's in a list with town while also literally proving he's trying to be the same as other posters
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:28 |
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Flying Leatherman posted:The mindset was "Town would not do this".
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:28 |
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##vote bottleknight
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:28 |
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well my second question still stands. btw I believe Keane to be a trolly town bp. Idk, the only game I distinctly remember from him is "rogue cop" and well he was one.
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:29 |
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And hell, I'm only mentioning it because it gave me a perspective from which I could see FL making the initial callout, which makes his actions look a lot less scummy to me (I could see him calling out Keane's BP from a town perspective if he was thinking Keane was some kind of 3P).
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:29 |
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:This was posted, by Flying Leatherman, and was the post that I was responding to, and is the post that you and Kashuno are talking about where I am the first person to mention 3P killing. Strange, because we did not say you are the first person to bring up 3P killing but rather we are curious as to why you would start 3P hunting now! We do not understand why you OR FL would assume he is 3P, and we do not like the way you responded to it. We think FL is being silly as a clown, but you seem to have devious intentions!
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:30 |
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Kashuno posted:Strange, because we did not say you are the first person to bring up 3P killing but rather we are curious as to why you would start 3P hunting now! We do not understand why you OR FL would assume he is 3P, and we do not like the way you responded to it. We think FL is being silly as a clown, but you seem to have devious intentions! Tobbs Gnawed posted:And hell, I'm only mentioning it because it gave me a perspective from which I could see FL making the initial callout, which makes his actions look a lot less scummy to me (I could see him calling out Keane's BP from a town perspective if he was thinking Keane was some kind of 3P). Here you go maybe you can see it now. It's like magic.
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:32 |
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Here you go maybe you can see it now. It's like magic. We had not had a chance to read your post, no need to be so angry! We cannot keep up with the minutiae of the game flow from the cosmos. There is so much to see up here, surely you can understand not gazing down upon you! What is your opinion of Keane?
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:35 |
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this is a stickup posted:all joking aside though, this is a huge red flag for me. scum tm posting is literally just repeating what is already said in the thread. you always think of scum. just because of that cat game. My first quote answered my second quote. I ask you this: Is there any scenario where it's good for a town BP to claim D1? The third quote was a reaction to ChaosLord fosing FL because he said FL was suspicious for reacting to an "obvious joke post". I'm just pointing out that I felt for that too.
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:37 |
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Kashuno posted:We had not had a chance to read your post, no need to be so angry! We cannot keep up with the minutiae of the game flow from the cosmos. There is so much to see up here, surely you can understand not gazing down upon you! Keane's scum meta is basically the same as my scum meta. I'm not seeing it yet.
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:37 |
This is tobb's town game.
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:42 |
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Max posted:This is tobb's town game. Something I'd expect town Max to say. We'll be scumbros some day, Max. Just not this day.
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:44 |
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Max posted:This is tobb's town game. We agree, unfortunately. It is our dismay that frustrating tobbs is probably town, and holding dumb opinions is what we know the lovable tobbs is! We do not like to deal with it, but we will. We are unsure who to think is scum at the moment. Tobbs Gnawed posted:Keane's scum meta is basically the same as my scum meta. I'm not seeing it yet. We request a lack of meta args.
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:46 |
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Kashuno posted:We agree, unfortunately. It is our dismay that frustrating tobbs is probably town, and holding dumb opinions is what we know the lovable tobbs is! We do not like to deal with it, but we will. We are unsure who to think is scum at the moment. Are you an evil murder alien.
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:49 |
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We are not evil, murderous, or an alien! We are a majestic celestial being with the crotch to match our bulging power. We are here to help you solve the murder and to eradicate the baddies so that you may all join the beautiful space of love!
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# ? Jan 10, 2017 17:59 |
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Kashuno posted:We are not evil, murderous, or an alien! We are a majestic celestial being with the crotch to match our bulging power. We are here to help you solve the murder and to eradicate the baddies so that you may all join the beautiful space of love! Claims list. Kashuno - Penis Angel
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