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The next update will be tomorrow!Eastbound Spider posted:Down With Internet Censorship All websites should be free (like the drugs) I'm not sure how to count this vote, is this a minus-vote for a hypothetical future proposal to implement internet censorship?
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It's a vote for the removing the blocking of some sites!
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Apr 9, 2014 19:56
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Oh, Internet Censorship isn't currently active, that was just me showing off the effects. Maybe I should have been more clear  Feel free to change your vote to something else so you don't waste it!
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Covski posted:Oh, Internet Censorship isn't currently active, that was just me showing off the effects. Maybe I should have been more clear Is there an option to drop video game censorship? This being Germany and all.
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Bobbin Threadbare posted:Is there an option to drop video game censorship? This being Germany and all. How about an option to remove some other censorships? 
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Apr 9, 2014 20:47
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Kind of annoyed this game takes the Randian Superman philosophy of "Taxing the rich makes them literally pack up their bags and leave" as the explanation for Brain Drain. Michigan has Brain Drain. It sure as poo poo doesn't have it because of tax policy.
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Bobbin Threadbare posted:Is there an option to drop video game censorship? This being Germany and all. Unfortunately no, though it would be a nice detail. There *might* be a dilemma regarding this in the game, but I'm not sure. Generally though, there is no difference in the policies available between countries. Veryslightlymad posted:Kind of annoyed this game takes the Randian Superman philosophy of "Taxing the rich makes them literally pack up their bags and leave" as the explanation for Brain Drain. Michigan has Brain Drain. It sure as poo poo doesn't have it because of tax policy. Yeah, I get the feeling that this is probably mostly a poor choice of name for this situation. It's another one of those 'gameplay over realism' decisions, as many of these situations are there mostly to stop people from pursuing a very extreme ideology. It kinda sorta makes sense that overtaxing entrepreneurs should have some negative effect on the business climate, even if it probably wouldn't take the form of a mass exodus of the rich part of the population.
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Maybe there's some hyperbole, it isn't a mass exodus, just a few big names moving offices and doing more outsourcing, or something.
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Apr 10, 2014 02:33
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Robotics Research Grants is about freedom. A vote against Robotics Research Grants is a vote against robot rights!
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Eastbound Spider posted:Robotics Research Grants is about freedom. A vote against Robotics Research Grants is a vote against robot rights! But we've got an unemployment problem! Robots will take away all our jobs!
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Apr 10, 2014 16:39
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SirArthurIV posted:But we've got an unemployment problem! Robots will take away all our jobs! Then let's get robot voting rights so we can stay in power!
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Apr 10, 2014 17:11
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Apr 10, 2014 17:37
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So what, there's street corner drug dealers supplying people with illegal drugs if they can't afford them due to taxes, but there's no moonshiners doing the same for alcohol? Anyway, Mansion Tax to maximum. Need more money, and gently caress the rich.
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TheMcD posted:So what, there's street corner drug dealers supplying people with illegal drugs if they can't afford them due to taxes, but there's no moonshiners doing the same for alcohol? Yeah, the main problem with Democracy 3 for me is that, all in all, it isn't a really great simulation of anything approaching anything like a real state. It can still be quite fun though, depending on how you implement your policies.
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The final tally: 28 PC available Remove restrictions on abortion, 26 PC, no budget change Bn per quarter - (9)+1=10 votes echidnagirl ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Enact Labour Day Bank Holiday, 3 PC, no budget change - (4)+1 votes CommissarMega Implement CCTV Cameras, maximum level, 28 PC, -2.55 Bn per quarter - 4 votes Vyxzuw, Ahundredbux, TaurusTorus, Namtab Implement food stamps, 4 PC, -1.89 Bn per quarter - 2 votes SirArthurIV, Eumenides Maximize Monorail Funding, 8 PC, -0,40 Bn per quarter - 2 votes TravelLog, Senerio Implement robotics research grants, 6 PC, -3.75 Bn per quarter - 1 vote Eastbound Spider Implement free school meals, 10 PC, -0.95 Bn per quarter - 1 vote kaiten80 Implement foreign investor tax breaks, maximum level, 10 PC, -16.08 Bn per quarter - 1 vote DariusLikewise Restrict drug policy to legal LSD, 20 PC, no budget change - 1 vote paragon1 Implement mansion tax, maximum level, 26 PC, +11.56 Bn per quarter - 1 vote TheMcD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------  TURN 8 A controversial piece of legislation allowing "on demand" abortions is passed, sparking both national and international outrage from conservative groups.  Half-way through the first term, things are still looking bleak.  With the ongoing economic crisis, a debate has flamed up regarding egregious corporate bonuses, and the LFAP will have to take a side.  Income is still declining, and with the global economy solidly in the pits and a €55 billion euro deficit each quarter, the government is under increased pressure to cut spending or raise taxes.  Popularity is down again, as any support the LFAP had with the religious is blown away in exchange for a minute gain from the liberals who already love them.  With two years left to the election, this leaves them with the lowest approval rating in quite some time.  At least they have accomplished their stated goal of pissing of the religious. Surely these god-fearing people should be the least likely to take any form of violent action against the government?  And on the bright side, alcohol abuse is still going down! LEGISLATION TIMEDo we Restrict bonuses or Do nothing? 24 PC available. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Enact Labour Day Bank Holiday, 3 PC, no budget change - (5) votes Implement CCTV Cameras, maximum level, 28 PC, -2.55 Bn per quarter - (4) votes (unaffordable this turn!) Implement food stamps, 4 PC, -1.89 Bn per quarter - (2) votes Maximize Monorail Funding, 8 PC, -0,40 Bn per quarter - (2) votes Implement robotics research grants, 6 PC, -3.75 Bn per quarter - (1) vote Implement free school meals, 10 PC, -0.95 Bn per quarter - (1) vote Implement foreign investor tax breaks, maximum level, 10 PC, -16.08 Bn per quarter - (1) vote Restrict drug policy to legal LSD, 20 PC, no budget change - (1) vote Implement mansion tax, maximum level, 26 PC, +11.56 Bn per quarter - (1) vote (unaffordable this turn!) Implement tourism ad campaign, 2 PC, -280 Mn per quarter - 1 vote ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The logo competition is a very tight race, so I'll let it run for at least one more turn! Please vote for your favorite if you haven't done so already! (or if I missed your vote last time around) Again, the contributions:  Logo A, by Nyaa CommissarMega, JGBeagle  Logo B, by xelada Ahundredbux, xelada(!!)  Logo C, by TheMcD echidnagirl, Senerio  Logo D, by Perestroika paragon1  Logo E, by echidnagirl Eumenides  Logo F, by Ahundredbux SirArthurIV, kaiten80 Covski fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Apr 10, 2014 |
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Huh. Restrict the bonuses, then fund the monorail while wearing logo F. edit: What more can we do to piss off the religious? Nuns don't wear lederhosen, clearly there is no place for them in modern Germany. anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Apr 10, 2014 |
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Apr 10, 2014 18:39
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Restrict bonuses, End agriculture subsidies It'll help balance the budget and help reduce obesity (yes, really!).
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Eastbound Spider posted:Robotics Research Grants I don't think I've shown this policy off, it's one of my favorites:   It boosts technology and productivity over time, making it a good way to increase the GDP. In the short term, it decreases unemployment (as people are hired to build the robots), but in the long term it increases unemployment (as workers are replaced with the robots, including those who were building them in the first place)
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paragon1 posted:Restrict bonuses, End agriculture subsidies It'll help balance the budget and help reduce obesity (yes, really!). This sounds good.
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Covski posted:Half-way through the first term, things are still looking bleak. Oh, no need for such pessimism, bundeskanzler Covski. Relax yourself with an efficient German sexworker. 
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My faith is restored :cryinglederhosen:
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Veryslightlymad posted:Kind of annoyed this game takes the Randian Superman philosophy of "Taxing the rich makes them literally pack up their bags and leave" as the explanation for Brain Drain. Michigan has Brain Drain. It sure as poo poo doesn't have it because of tax policy. The best part is that it happens mostly for the Luxury Tax. Huge CIT doesn't piss them off as much as yachts and Rolex watches being more expensive - and of course, the people who use them clearly are so important for the economy that them moving to another country heavily impacts your economy.
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Hey, my vote for the monorail wasn't counted.
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JGBeagle posted:Hey, my vote for the monorail wasn't counted. JGBeagle posted:A, increase funding for drones to max. We can't let our people keep leaving in droves. Send in the drones.  The vote for the drones wasn't counted because the policy is already maxed out, I was going to mention it in the thread but it slipped my mind. (this vote counting business is harder than it looks, honest) You can vote for something retroactively for last turn to make it up, since it was my mistake  Or did you mean when the monorail was implemented way back when?
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Tourism Ad Campaign goddamnit. Foreign money is best money! Also, my vote for tourism ad campaign last time wasn't counted, or I may be confused... Also, restrict bonuses. Are we really going to start being nice to capitalists now?
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 I could've sworn I said monrail... Meh, doesn't matter what I vote for anyways. Abortion won and nothing else can pass. Ban Cocaine and Heroin.
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How can we gently caress over the rich with taxes if there are no rich left? Either way, we need to do something about all this internet crime. Something like Maximum Funding for the Intelligence Services. Our goal of cameras in every home is useless unless our secret police are ready to analyse each screen for thoughtcrime. Also it might help save us if one of the god botherers tries to bomb parliament. Every time I play this game I am killed by the radical left
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Broenheim posted:Also, my vote for tourism ad campaign last time wasn't counted, or I may be confused... You are indeed correct, I'll edit the tally to reflect this. Again, sorry! It's really easy to miss things like these when I'm counting votings for several things at the same time. (also I am bad at counting)
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Apr 10, 2014 22:04
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Restrict bonuses End agriculture subsidies Logo F What could go wrong?
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paragon1 posted:Restrict bonuses, End agriculture subsidies It'll help balance the budget and help reduce obesity (yes, really!). I'm voting for this as well. Also, I vote for Logo F. I kind of like the idea of us picking a logo, then being voted out in a couple of turns. Wagrid fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Apr 10, 2014 |
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Max Monorail, Logo F. I could had add the pant thing if I waited on my design. 
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Restrict the bonuses and Implement CCTV Cameras to keep up with our socialist big-brother image. We're running this country like pros. 
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food stamps we need our hard working men and women well, that way they can work harder and help the economy more. Also I don't know about you but I don't think diseased skeleton is a good look for escorts.
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Restrict bonuses and end agriculture subsidies. We must take action against those who are literally and metaphorically too fat!
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I haven't shown off the agricultural subsidies, have I? This is one of the main things the farmers really really care about. It is also hugely expensive, and the major tangible benefit is that it helps reduce unemployment. (And I guess we count pissing off the capitalists as a benefit, as well) It also increases obesity by a lot, as well as decreasing health slightly. I guess that the reasoning for this is that it drives down the prices on meat and and fat dairy products leading to excess consumption. This would kinda make sense if Germany was a completely closed economy, but in many European countries meat imported from other countries is quite a bit cheaper than domestically produced. And since agricultural subsidies are a huge thing in the rest of the EU open market (resulting in the EU producing a huge surplus of food), removing the subsidies in Germany would likely not result in any huge changes in consumption. And no, the cheaper food has no effect on poverty or anything of the sort. But, as many has noted in the thread, Democracy 3 is very much more of a game than a simulation, so I can forgive the lack of complexity and things like this not making sense. Personally, I'd go so far as to regard the game as toy more than an actual game, as it becomes a bit dull when you are just trying to stay in power and make everybody happy as there isn't much challenge once you find out how to game the system. It's still lots of fun to dick around with and see what kind of stuff happens, as I hope this bizarro-germany is proving. :cryinglederhosen:
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Just like in real life, agricultural subsidies should be eliminated. They're a huge drain on the budget and completely ineffective, merely held together by a lobby. I assume farmers make up a small amount of the electorate, so for 7.32bn in savings that can either be cut from the budget or taxes (and added savings in health care), the whole thing should be slashed. Less agricultural subsidies should also make people shift away from the farmer group as they have less money! e: gently caress the bonuses Ghost of Mussolini fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Apr 11, 2014 |
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I hear it's Germany's only choice. Throw up your hands and raise your voice: Monorail, Monorail, Monorail! also gently caress Bankers
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