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Wendigee posted:theres like a billion kinds of nurses.... im pretty sure the majority of these morons are the ones that make 15-20 bucks an hours, and only needed 2 years of training if that. Nah man, two year kiddies (associates in nursing) take the exact same NCLEX as the four year kids (bachelors). You're thinking of LPNs, which are almost unheard of in the hospital setting these days (although it wouldn't surprise me if they are stepping back in currently). I'm not even aware of any programs for LPNs existing anymore, it was a two year degree as well and is pretty much phased out at this point. NPs in a hospital setting typically operate under a Doc's authority, as in they round and put in orders, or are trained to do specific procedures, so not a lot of direct patient contact or hands on type work. The problem is the burn out rate is real, and has only gotten worse, so beggars can't be choosers. Add in the cost/time commitment compared to earning potential, and high demand means you're going to get a certain percentage that could wrote memorize their way through the NCLEX but have absolute poo poo clinical judgement skills. I'll use myself as an example. I cleared 110k last year pre-tax, now this includes incentive pay, double overtime, and averaging around 50hr a week, plus I am in a high demand, well paying niche. My two year associate degree cost me 13k, 8 years ago. So yeah, this is going to attract all sorts. You are absolutely right about a rising glut of ITT Tech style nursing programs though, those poor kids are getting straight rooked on the cost for "accelerated" programs.
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IncredibleIgloo posted:So I did a little research because the get up looked suspicious to me, as I don't remember any of the Air Force people having blue backgrounds on their rank insignia, it looked really weird. It turns out that there is a civilian auxiliary/aid group, similar to the coast guard auxiliary (old folks with boats who help with search and rescue) called the "Civilian Air Patrol" and their rank insignia has the light blue background and they wear the captain bars insignia with the bars parallel to the short edge of the collar. I think you put a lot more thought and effort into your research than there was on his part, which was probably just walking into a surplus store and paying money for that jacket and some random rank insignia (or alternatively it's some relative's old bars that he snatched).
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priznat posted:Yeah I absolutely want these fuckheads getting their teeth kicked in but that is just not going to happen because cops are too sympathetic to them. It just isn’t going to happen and if they were coerced into doing it they would absolutely start to escalate tactics against any leftist demonstrations that they were not sympathetic towards. I think it’s pretty clear what has to happen is get through this (sorry drunk guy poster calling me an idiot I know ur mad that’s fine) and then perform a thorough overhaul of policing in general. This sadly won’t happen of course. Hey! I called your take stupid, not necessarily you as a person. I just don't think you actually understand the situation here at all, and that your fear of police escalation is pointless because they already do the things you're scared of. Meanwhile, you're saying people like me should just wait it out, as though there hasn't been a slow steady escalation of violence here. After the first failed mass murder by arson, they've started being more thorough. Now they're testing sealing doors with handcuffs, and scouting for emergency exits. https://twitter.com/EaErkhart/status/1492618569481428994 These buildings are just a couple of blocks away from me. They aren't doing this as some kind of experiment to test the tensile strength of the cuffs for bdsm fun times in the saunas they've set up. They are planning how to improve their chances of success the next time they attempt mass murder. I get that it's super great for you to sit back, stroke your chin and marvel at your own pragmatic wisdom while proclaiming that it's better for us to be left to die than to risk the expansion of police power, as that would only lead them to escalate against left wing protests, but that's a pretty significant misreading of the stakes. First, we aren't asking for anything extraordinary that would necessitate expanded police powers. Literally the bare loving minimum of ticketing and towing would be a huge step, even if it was just the non-commercial vehicles. Second: That thing you're scared of? Kinda looks like they're gonna go ahead and do it anyway. Doug Ford declares a state of emergency to give police more power and to make that permanent. Those increased powers aren't being used for short term good of dispersing the occupation of my neighbourhood. It's stupid to refuse to do a good thing because it might lead to a bad thing, especially when that exact same bad thing is going to happen anyway. Do you seriously think leaving these bastards alone is going to lead to anything but more escalation as they test what they can get away with? "Sure, it's unfortunate that a of couple women got raped, and that guy got knifed, and the lady with the pride flag in her window got shot, and those 300 people died in that fire, but it was worth it! The latest time that indigenous land-rights protestors marched across an intersection a bit too slowly for the riot cops taste, one of the officers used rubber bullets properly rather than firing directly at the protestors face from point black range! Tragedy averted. A glorious victory for the left!" Sorry if it feels like I'm singling you out, I have nothing against you personally. This is really just directed at you because you just kind of accidentally jumped both feet onto a landmine of frustration that's been building over the last two weeks. It's just insane to me how different the general perception of what's going on here is from the reality, even between downtown residents and people out in the suburbs. Seeing it casually dismissed as though it were just some noise and bad traffic just makes me feel like people must be living on the loving moon.
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InsertPotPun posted:it's more than that: "leftist protests" always have a point: "pass this law" or "help these people" etc; chud protests simply don't. "all of the current government must resign" or "release the secret ufo info" and all of them are marked by confusion and infighting. that's why extremely long protests like Occupy were so transformative to our economic system
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LordSloth posted:https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/status/1492620212172201987?s=21 Trump has the Mafia and Putins goons to worry about. No respectable hit man would work for Trump because he’s not going to pay
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Dr. Thoss posted:Hey! I called your take stupid, not necessarily you as a person. I just don't think you actually understand the situation here at all, and that your fear of police escalation is pointless because they already do the things you're scared of. Meanwhile, you're saying people like me should just wait it out, as though there hasn't been a slow steady escalation of violence here. After the first failed mass murder by arson, they've started being more thorough. Now they're testing sealing doors with handcuffs, and scouting for emergency exits. Look I understand how you're pissed off because of the animals currently occupying your city but you're misrepresenting what I was saying in a big way. And coming across as a bit of an rear end in a top hat. I have never ever said that the police shouldn't be doing things like ticketing, blocking access for more protestors, gathering information for future prosecution, let the protestors know about what financial and legal risks they are undertaking, etc etc etc. The OPS have just either halfassed it or abrogated it completely and it's pathetic. Utterly pathetic. The cops SHOULD be patrolling the area and keeping the residents safe. They absolutely should be doing this. It should be their primary responsibility over protecting monuments or trying to control fuel resupplies. The grocery stores closing due to the convoy assholes is another thing they should have but didn't prevent. The police and city have failed so utterly it's almost mindboggling. What I am saying is that going in with a heavy handed response as a lot of people want (myself included, honestly) would backfire in a couple ways as mentioned in that initial tweet thread. First, it would set a precedent for the state to crack down on anything it deems unacceptable. Second, it would justify so much of those rear end in a top hat's conspiracy thinking. They would essentially be proved right in a lot of what they think! Third, violence could carry over into the residential areas. Fourth, it could spread to other places that have significant chud convoy presence like the various border crossings, Winnipeg etc. But seriously, go gently caress yourself with your "sick burns" of made up commentary. You seem like a complete jackass and/or twentysomething who thinks they're clever. I have nothing against you personally, sorry if it feels like I am singled you out! Stay safe.
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haha I got a little day drunk today (then took a 4 hour nap because I'm old and boring) Some convoy dipshits were rolling through and my friend and I had a good time giving them the finger and yelling mean things at them. ANTIFA IN ACTION!
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ACAB at all times however in this case against my opponents I'm advocating as using them as tools of violence employed by the state and see no issues with this.
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IncredibleIgloo posted:And to think, over 20 years ago I chose this place over Drew Curtis's: Fark by Drew Curtis. Man, that squirrel had some great balls
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 WHAT. THE. gently caress! Is that car shared by two people with opposing views on… everything?
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priznat posted:First, it would set a precedent for the state to crack down on anything it deems unacceptable.
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They probably want the car destroyed for insurance purposes but they don't want to commit the fraud part so this is their solution
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Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:They probably want the car destroyed for insurance purposes but they don't want to commit the fraud part so this is their solution Red car is confused! It hurt itself in the confusion!
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:Or...butt chug horse piss? I don't think Poland will accept that as vaccinated
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Dr. Thoss posted:Hey! I called your take stupid, not necessarily you as a person. I just don't think you actually understand the situation here at all, and that your fear of police escalation is pointless because they already do the things you're scared of. Meanwhile, you're saying people like me should just wait it out, as though there hasn't been a slow steady escalation of violence here. After the first failed mass murder by arson, they've started being more thorough. Now they're testing sealing doors with handcuffs, and scouting for emergency exits. Lol, waiting chuds out has proven to be a failing tactic again and again. They just take it as a sign they can get more and more violent. We're not dealing with some school yard bully, we're dealing with adult assholes that are willing to get worse and worse so long as they get no push back. It's more like a violent child that constantly pushes the edge to get away with more till its parents finally take a stand
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priznat posted:First, it would set a precedent for the state to crack down on anything it deems unacceptable. Too late there, or did you not read any of the various posts about how the cops beat up and broke up leftist protests almost immediately? The state already cracks down on what it wants to. The part of the state charged with doing such feel these guys are on their side, so they won't quote:Second, it would justify so much of those rear end in a top hat's conspiracy thinking. They would essentially be proved right in a lot of what they think! Everything justifies conspiracy nuts. Action against them justifies themselves that they're right. Leaving them alone justifies themselves that they're right. The conspiracy mind does not operate in any way but "How do these current events validate my "facts"." quote:Third, violence could carry over into the residential areas. It already has without any violence being done to them, and the police response was "Well don't be a target then" rather than "Maybe we should arrest these fuckers". From the attempted arson murder, to healthcare workers on the street, to battered women, to homes that had gently caress off trucker signs. These people are violent, they want to be violent, they will find reasons to be violent, police crackdown or no quote:Fourth, it could spread to other places that have significant chud convoy presence like the various border crossings, Winnipeg etc. Or, as we've seen when the police actually push these cowards crumple and run away like little bitches. They want to be assholes without repercussions, but as soon as they face some actual firm blowback from authority they fold like a wet paper bag SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Feb 13, 2022 |
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priznat posted:Look I understand how you're pissed off because of the animals currently occupying your city but you're misrepresenting what I was saying in a big way. And coming across as a bit of an rear end in a top hat. I have never ever said that the police shouldn't be doing things like ticketing, blocking access for more protestors, gathering information for future prosecution, let the protestors know about what financial and legal risks they are undertaking, etc etc etc. The OPS have just either halfassed it or abrogated it completely and it's pathetic. Utterly pathetic. You quoted a tweet thread containing all of the things that Dr. Thoss is talking about, and seemed to be agreeing with it. You did suggest that police should maybe try to make the protesters a little less "comfortable" but that's really vague. I'm not saying that you have secret motives I'm just saying that I think it's easy to see how Dr. Thoss reached their conclusions about your opinions, whether they're right or wrong
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priznat posted:I read this thread and it kind of settled me down a little looks like this has been thoroughly covered, but it shouldn't calm you down because it's a peak shitlib take, and lmao if you actually believe "if we demand the government stop the right wing psychopaths from taking cities hostage, that'll just make them punish left wing protests even more" as if this wouldn't have been swiftly squashed on day one if it had to do with cops murdering black people instead of a hissy fit over masks raditts fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Feb 13, 2022 |
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RodShaft posted:Is it 7pm on Friday yet? Did the cops force the truckers out yet? The pigs gave out fliers to warn the morons and they all filed out one by one with their tails between their legs. In Ottawa. Now, the dumbshits are "occupying" different intersections South of Ottawa. gently caress the CHUDS. gently caress the pigs. gently caress everything. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU1SI5bwvog El Diablo Bob O fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Feb 13, 2022 |
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Mr. Nice! posted:rip big dick goth daddy I know it was pages ago. I don't care. RIP Pete "Rod o'" Steele.
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Gutter Phoenix posted:He would sometimes perform naked. I played bass wearing a leather mask with a zipper that I opened when I had to sing background vocals. We put on a good show. People liked us. Club owners did not. Please tell me you were in The Cliftons.
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I got a bit unduly lovely in that last post. My bad. Partially me being pissy, partially failed attempt at levity. Pissy because I read priznat posted:For things like ottawa it sucks for people living there but probably the best option is just letting them get bored and go home. The cops should be doing more to prevent them from being comfortable though. priznat posted:What I am saying is that going in with a heavy handed response as a lot of people want (myself included, honestly) would backfire in a couple ways as mentioned in that initial tweet thread. First, it would set a precedent for the state to crack down on anything it deems unacceptable. Second, it would justify so much of those rear end in a top hat's conspiracy thinking. They would essentially be proved right in a lot of what they think! Third, violence could carry over into the residential areas. Fourth, it could spread to other places that have significant chud convoy presence like the various border crossings, Winnipeg etc. To your first point, the state already does crack down on anything it deems unacceptable. There's a radical difference in between the governments and police respond to protests based on who is protesting and what they are protesting about. Police will routinely use excessive force or go outside the limits of their lawful authority with impunity. They don't need precedent to do a thing they're already doing. I will concede that there may be a non-zero percent chance that breaking up the occupation may slightly increase the normalization of police violence, but police violence of the level needed to forcibly disrupt this occupation is unfortunately already well within the bounds of what our society has demonstrated that it is willing to accept. For your second point, I will concede entirely. Yes, using the power of the state will reinforce their ideas that the power of the state is arrayed against them. My response, and forgive me if I'm coming across as excessively glib or hostile, is so loving what? We're absolutely in a lose/lose scenario with this. Breaking the occupation up will reinforce the paranoid part of the conspiracy but leaving them alone just emboldens them. In Toronto and Quebec, police offered literally the minimal possible level of resistance by issuing tickets and the whole thing crumbled and the scum left without any fuss beyond a few sulky social media posts. In cities that have taken a hands off approach, like Ottawa, or Winnipeg, or Windsor, it's been a steady escalation to the point where force is the now only realistic option. Leaving them alone hasn't lead to them getting bored and sulking off home, it's just let them entrench and escalate. They're pushing the limits to see exactly what they can get away with, and each thing that isn't stopped is going to make the next thing they try worse. Again, I point to the fact that they are literally rehearsing mass murder by arson, an act they have already attempted and failed at once. As for your third point, I've got to say I think you've missed what I'm trying to say completely and the reason I've come off as angry as I have. Again, almost certainly my own fault for the poor presentation. You say that you're scared it may spread to residential areas? Too loving late. Sure, way more of us have balconies than backyards, but thousands of people live in downtown Ottawa. I've tried to grab decent screenshot, but google streetview images are poo poo because of the walleye lense. The apartment building where the first attempted arson took place, after resident got in a noise dispute with the 'protesters' that are blocking their street? It's on an intersection, at 3 of the corners are apartment buildings and at the 4th is a building that has ground floor commercial space and condos above*. Next to those? More apartment buildings. The images of buildings I linked to in my last post, the buildings where dudes were double checking how well they could seal the exits? What's next on that street? More apartment buildings. Well, except the stretch directly across from the Museum of Nature, that's single family homes and an embassy, but once you're past the museum? More apartments! The lady who was getting rape threats about her mask as she walked home from the gym? Never left the occupied zone. Bike courier who almost lost an eye after visiting a friend? All within the occupied area. There is already violence affecting residential areas, because downtown Ottawa IS a residential area. They've also sent out smaller groups all over the pretty much all of the adjacent residential neighbourhoods too, albeit without establishing a permanent presence. Responding to the fourth point seems kind of redundant given what I've already posted, so I'll make it quick. Yes, things may get worse, but they're already getting worse and continuing with the hands off approach definitely won't make anything about this situation better, ever. Basically, as someone on the inside, I just think you have way too optimistic a view of where things stand now, particularly when it comes to the conditions for people stuck in the thick of it. lovely as it was to strawman you, I do think that the solution that you see as the only option does basically amount to letting horrible poo poo happen to people in the short term in the hopes that it may result in things being generally less bad in the long term, with the "hopes," "may," and "generally" doing some extremely heavy lifting. I just think it's too big of an ask for people currently targeted by what are, by any sane definition, domestic terrorists in exchange for too small of a chance of too small of a return. *If memory serves, which is admittedly a pretty big if, since I haven't seen ads for space in that building for years.
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