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The Mattybee posted:So I'm looking at making a modpack for me and (probably) a set of friends to play with. It's not always the hottest performing mod, but Mekanism is extremely useful since its digital miner is in my opinion the best, easiest to learn automated mining tool in the game. It's also super versatile: if you want to mine something specific without making a big hole you can set filters, if you want a big hole you can set it to mine everything in a certain radius, if you want to flatten all the blocks above a certain height, or if you want to get rid of a certain block in an area and replace it with something else, it has you covered.
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Feb 13, 2014 00:25
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Second, I have kind of an idea for things I want - AE, Tinker's, TE - but I don't know if there are any other mods that people consider Absolutely Essential.
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Altran posted:Ok, back with checking which mod is lagging my world. Try /opis_start, then let it run for a minute or until it stops itself, then type /opis_te and it'll show you the 20 laggiest tile entities in a nice list. Click on any of them to teleport to them.
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Feb 13, 2014 00:34
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Altran posted:Ok, back with checking which mod is lagging my world. Profiled information(like the mean time overlay) only works after running opis, which you do with /opis_start. If you have TE, /cofh tps should work, you don't need any special permissions for it.
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Feb 13, 2014 01:40
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Thanks guys  I ll try /opis_te.What is TE? Do you know why I don't have permission to /forge tps my own single player game?
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Feb 13, 2014 01:56
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Altran posted:Thanks guys You probably have to have cheats enabled when you start the world. I dunno though, I never touch SSP. TE is Thermal Expansion. In Opis, "te" is "tile entity", which in MC terms basically means a block that is more than just a plain block. Machines etc are tile entities.
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Feb 13, 2014 02:19
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Altran posted:Thanks guys TE stands for tile entity, aka chests, furnaces, most any block that does stuff. A single-player game doesn't let you use certain commands unless cheats are enabled. E:f;b
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Feb 13, 2014 02:20
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Thanks, luckily I had a backup of the save that wasn't too old. I copied in the level.dat from that backup save and recovered it. I was only missing a few things that I'd collected in the interim.
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Feb 13, 2014 02:54
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Figured I'd try and see if I could live with sphax but I just couldn't do it. Half of the textures were missing and the nail in the coffin was the game would drop from 100+ fps to 15 whenever I drew my bow. THat's some serious flipping lag. Plus gently caress jawa villagers 
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Feb 13, 2014 03:29
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What texture pack do you all recommend? I have a hard time finding one I like because most of them clash pretty badly with stuff like Chisel's blocks.
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Feb 13, 2014 03:33
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MacGyvers_Mullet posted:What texture pack do you all recommend? I have a hard time finding one I like because most of them clash pretty badly with stuff like Chisel's blocks. Most of Chisel's textures are based on ones from the Painterly Pack so if you want to match Chisel you can't really go wrong if you go that route. I feel like it matches default 16x16 stuff pretty well too from other mods, or at least doesn't clash too much.
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Feb 13, 2014 03:40
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Is there anything that will help me identify why my FPS drops in certain areas? The base I'm in has recently started making the FPS drop to the point where it gives me a headache just being around it.
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Feb 13, 2014 05:15
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Cerevisiae posted:Is there anything that will help me identify why my FPS drops in certain areas? The base I'm in has recently started making the FPS drop to the point where it gives me a headache just being around it. I don't think anything can profile rendering yet from within minecraft, but what is typically in the areas where the FPS drop occurs. I can likely get a good idea of what might be causing the FPS drop.
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Feb 13, 2014 05:21
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Just a warning: I recommend NOT growing MFR's Sacred Rubber Tree Saplings. Seriously.  The tainted chunks in this map should give you a good idea how stupidly massive that *single* tree is. 
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Feb 13, 2014 07:26
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ZarquonHigardi posted:Just a warning: I recommend NOT growing MFR's Sacred Rubber Tree Saplings. Seriously. This has to be some sort of joke.
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Feb 13, 2014 07:54
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That's amazing. Also, glad I'm not the only one to put a smoker on top of a smeltery. Reference to RP2's rubber trees perhaps? In any case it's hilarious.
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Feb 13, 2014 07:55
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ZarquonHigardi posted:Just a warning: I recommend NOT growing MFR's Sacred Rubber Tree Saplings. Seriously. What happens if you use treecapitator on it?
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Feb 13, 2014 08:25
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This may be a stupid question too, but re: modpacks - do you still have to worry about ID collisions? If so, what's the best way to deal with this?
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Feb 13, 2014 08:57
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The Mattybee posted:This may be a stupid question too, but re: modpacks - do you still have to worry about ID collisions? If so, what's the best way to deal with this? If you're using someone else's mod pack, then, in theory, they have already solved all these and it's not your concern. When creating on, however, yes, they are absolutely still a concern.
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Feb 13, 2014 09:00
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Serifina posted:If you're using someone else's mod pack, then, in theory, they have already solved all these and it's not your concern. When creating on, however, yes, they are absolutely still a concern. Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuughhhh. What's the best way to solve this stupid, stupid problem?
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Feb 13, 2014 09:03
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The Mattybee posted:Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuughhhh. I used idfix minus and it worked fine for me. http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1928632-164smpforge-idfix-and-idfix-minus-mods-for-resolving-id-conflicts/ It's really easy to use. You just install all your desired mods, put this fixer in the mod foldier, run minecraft, remove the fixer from the mod folder, and you're good to go! If you add any mods afterwards you'll have to change the id's yourself, though, to prevent id match issues. e: As a bonus the program also creates a file listing the id's of every block for future reference. Which is very helpful if you do want to add mods after the fact. dijon du jour fucked around with this message at 09:12 on Feb 13, 2014 |
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Feb 13, 2014 09:08
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If you put the mods in the standard minecraft launcher one at a time, it will generate a text file with ID conflicts listed, and you can manually fix them that way in the config settings for the conflicting mods. I just did this last night, though the strange part was that it was Biomes O Plenty conflicting with itself on four IDs.  The automated program sounds like a better first attempt though, if it works you're golden without having to do manual edits at all.
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Feb 13, 2014 09:11
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Silus posted:If you put the mods in the standard minecraft launcher one at a time, it will generate a text file with ID conflicts listed, and you can manually fix them that way in the config settings for the conflicting mods. The automated program caused me a bunch of problems in the NST 1.6 pack. I'd recommend against it. Manually assign IDs, use something to keep track of which IDs are which. If you don't, the pain later will be worse than it needs to be.
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Feb 13, 2014 10:03
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ZarquonHigardi posted:Just a warning: I recommend NOT growing MFR's Sacred Rubber Tree Saplings. Seriously. That just makes me want to grow one.
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McFrugal posted:This has to be some sort of joke. Nope. Skyboy's been chuckling about it in IRC for a few weeks now. Apparently he also rewrote the MFR Harvester so it could chomp on sacred rubber tree-size objects without lagging the poo poo out of servers. Edit: Cerevisiae posted:Is there anything that will help me identify why my FPS drops in certain areas? The base I'm in has recently started making the FPS drop to the point where it gives me a headache just being around it. I've found this is usually the fault of modmakers using a Tile Entity Special Renderer to add graphical flair to stuff. Anything that's 3D that animates/lights up/changes in realtime is usually a TESR. They permit modmakers to do raw OpenGL drawing and, since they're used for animating/changing poo poo, there's generally little/no caching. A few are OK, a lot can make stuff very laggy. If you're using a lot of advanced Mekanism stuff, that could be it. Mek overuses TESRs, in my opinion. Universal cable, energy cubes, etc. - all TESRs. It's possible to make stuff change/animate without using one, but requires a lot more code. Thermal Expansion does this with its machines. Can you hit F3, walk around and pay attention to which machines/objects are on screen? It should be possible to narrow it down to small areas, within which you can try removing poo poo to cure the lag. Erogenous Beef fucked around with this message at 12:08 on Feb 13, 2014 |
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Erogenous Beef posted:Nope. Skyboy's been chuckling about it in IRC for a few weeks now. Apparently he also rewrote the MFR Harvester so it could chomp on sacred rubber tree-size objects without lagging the poo poo out of servers. Wouldn't growing one lag a server something fierce, though? I mean, I look at that thing and I can just see the TPS dipping down low into single digits while generating.
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Cerevisiae posted:Is there anything that will help me identify why my FPS drops in certain areas? The base I'm in has recently started making the FPS drop to the point where it gives me a headache just being around it. Could it be microblocks?
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ZarquonHigardi posted:Just a warning: I recommend NOT growing MFR's Sacred Rubber Tree Saplings. Seriously. This is just awesome! I hope they remain unchanged.
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fondue posted:Could it be microblocks? I also have his problem, I don't have 'microblocks' in the mod folder, but in minecraft home screen -> mods -> scroll down I see 'forge microblocks', is that mod part of forge?
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ZarquonHigardi posted:Just a warning: I recommend NOT growing MFR's Sacred Rubber Tree Saplings. Seriously. I dont get it. What is the point of this monster?
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Feb 13, 2014 14:25
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The only things really around are Thaumcraft's essentia tubes and jars, alembics, an infernal furnace, an infusion altar, a Tinkers Construct smeltery, and any amount of those things that the neighbors have built.
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Heffer posted:I dont get it. What is the point of this monster? I think he wrote it to test his new harvester code he said it can be chopped down entirely with the harvester.
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Heffer posted:I dont get it. What is the point of this monster? Imagine a city inside it.
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Cerevisiae posted:The only things really around are Thaumcraft's essentia tubes and jars, alembics, an infernal furnace, an infusion altar, a Tinkers Construct smeltery, and any amount of those things that the neighbors have built. You made a 1000 block high mega house again didn't you!
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Feb 13, 2014 14:49
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Of course I did, but it was fine at it's full height and only started getting bad in the past day or so.
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Essentia tubes are kind of laggy, potentially. Use Opis?? 
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Altran posted:I also have his problem, I don't have 'microblocks' in the mod folder, but in minecraft home screen -> mods -> scroll down I see 'forge microblocks', is that mod part of forge? Some mods require it, and download it automatically, most notably TE.
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Cerevisiae posted:Of course I did, but it was fine at it's full height and only started getting bad in the past day or so. What have you added recently to the area. I want to say the issues are either the essentia tubes, essentia jars, or alembics but I'm going to have to check something to be completely sure. Also a preemptive gently caress you to TESR and the minecraft rendering engine.
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Macropiper posted:What happens if you use treecapitator on it? Believe me, that was the first thing I tried.  The effect was about what you'd expect: crash the ever-loving gently caress out of the server Inepta Lacerta posted:Wouldn't growing one lag a server something fierce, though? I mean, I look at that thing and I can just see the TPS dipping down low into single digits while generating. Yep, my server was laggy for about a minute or so after generating it and client was, of course, laggy for quite a while as it had to redraw every bloody chunk around. Erogenous Beef posted:Nope. Skyboy's been chuckling about it in IRC for a few weeks now. Apparently he also rewrote the MFR Harvester so it could chomp on sacred rubber tree-size objects without lagging the poo poo out of servers. Joke or no joke, the thing's pretty ridiculous. Though, i will admit I definitely chuckled once I realized what the gently caress was happening with the sudden "corruption" of the world... That said: It doesn't lag the server, but it lags the gently caress out of the clients connected in the area though! Not to mention the other wonderful benefits of having complete sky coverage over a wide area... (mob spawns during the day, light dependent plants popping out of the ground, etc) Also:  That's been running I posted that message last night and it's barely made a dent in the thing. Ah well, at least I will never want for rubber ever again. Anyway... On a different note, Mine and Blade: Battlegear doesn't seem to play nice with MSPC+. Items just outright disappear when you reconnect or warp to another dimension. The shield mechanics are so nice too...  Admittedly, though, I mainly wanted the mod to have extra hotbar slots. The shields were just a nice bonus.
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I'm having a problem with a pack I've cobbled together. I started with NST and added some things, I'm trying to figure out why Ars Magica 2 parchment isn't working, first it was telling me destabilized redstone buckets were parchment, I went in and changed the itemID on the parchment and now it thinks some forestry sapling is parchment, but neither of the itemIDs on those items are the one I switched parchment to in the configs. What the heck am I doing wrong?
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Reason posted:I'm having a problem with a pack I've cobbled together. I started with NST and added some things, I'm trying to figure out why Ars Magica 2 parchment isn't working, first it was telling me destabilized redstone buckets were parchment, I went in and changed the itemID on the parchment and now it thinks some forestry sapling is parchment, but neither of the itemIDs on those items are the one I switched parchment to in the configs. What the heck am I doing wrong? Try adding 256 to the parchment ID. It is an old quirk of how item ID's work. edit: Cerevisiae, it looks the tubes are fine but the jars and the alembics are causing the cause of the fps drop. Try removing some and see if there are any changes. Once again gently caress TESRs. delta534 fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Feb 13, 2014 |
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