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Supercar Gautier
Jun 10, 2006

cheetah7071 posted:

If any of you +10 people want to be added to the hall of fame in the OP let me know

Sure


I have other skill loadouts to swap to, but I think the :wom: is helping in arena defense. Maybe? The game should give more info about that.

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Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



cheetah7071 posted:

They're significantly rarer up at 706+ where I am

I'm at 712-726 roughly and I still see them all the time

LightningKimba
Nov 5, 2010

Unleashing my best...

LUMINARY UPPERCUT!!

AverySpecialfriend posted:

Plus 👏 ten 👏 your 👏 fav 👏

My favorite is a unit whose already considered top tier. Even though she's +10, she is no change, she is...

the meta

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


SpaceCadetBob posted:

I’ve got 11 4* Hana’s so I think she will be my next project. Is there any opinions on if wo dao or firesweep sword is better on her? Im assuming firesweep would want plus speed and wo dao would want plus attack?

Wo Dao definitely wants +SPD. Only a brave sword hana wants +ATK.

AverySpecialfriend posted:

Firesweep is better

Disagree

blizzardvizard
Sep 12, 2012

Shhh... don't wake up the sleeping lion :3:

SpaceCadetBob posted:

I’ve got 11 4* Hana’s so I think she will be my next project. Is there any opinions on if wo dao or firesweep sword is better on her? Im assuming firesweep would want plus speed and wo dao would want plus attack?

Ostentatious is the Hana expert but imo both want +spd

I'm personally iffy about Firesweep since player phase melee infantry seems janky to me but Ostentatious makes it work, so.

AzureSkye
Mar 4, 2010

AverySpecialfriend posted:

Plus 👏 ten 👏 your 👏 fav 👏

Haar isn't in the game yet though :(

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
there's no point of a 10+ healer :(

Natural 20
Sep 17, 2007

Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.
So +3 Cordelia has put me comfortably back into the 19-20 bounce I think.

In calculating what will get me in and drop me I've started thinking of units in +1/-1 terms instead of BST. You can squeeze a little more out here and there using skills (and there's obviously a little variance in the categories), but broadly I view that you'll go for optimal builds, so relying on skill BST increases is unreliable.

If you take a standard melee unit that was released at the beginning of the game:

Armour is worth +2
Powercreep is worth +1
Dragons are worth +1
Range is worth -1
Dancing is worth -1
A Horse is worth -1
A Flier is worth 0

So a Powercrept Melee Armour, like Winter Robin is the same as your run of the mill +3 melee unit.

At the moment the tier 19-20 bounce category sits around a +5 overall total since my team which is a +3 Cordelia/+2 Eirika/+1 Nino just edges in.

If I wanted to replace Eirika with a dancer though, it would have to be at least +3 to compete.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Tired Moritz posted:

there's no point of a 10+ healer :(

Razzle Dazzle healers are good

Also the staff debuffs are actually worthwhile now

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Natural 20 posted:

Dragons are worth +1

Only Nowi/Fae/YTiki

Andrast fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Jan 4, 2018

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



I've had a +10 Lissa on friends list for a while but I've still never gotten her in VG :(

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)

Andrast posted:

Razzle Dazzle healers are good

Also the staff debuffs are actually worthwhile now

unfortunately no one uses defensive healers :(

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Tired Moritz posted:

unfortunately no one uses defensive healers :(

Be the change

SpaceCadetBob
Dec 27, 2012
The build I'm thinking of going with is:
Hana 4*+10
Firesweep+
Glimmer
LAD 3
Drag Back
Something or other
Heavy Blade 2 Seal

I'll probably pair her with Lancina since the extra buffs might be pretty solid. Anything glaring I'm oopsing on?

Retcon
Jun 23, 2010

Elyv posted:

I'm at 712-726 roughly and I still see them all the time
Yeah, I'm in the same range and I also see them constantly.

edit: in fact I saw a ton of Nino+dancer teams today in AA, and people putting Guidance on NY Azura made them a bit annoying to deal with.

Retcon fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Jan 4, 2018

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
Someday my Ayra will be +10

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
Tiki is going into the hall of fame when she's done because I started her when she was the change

AverySpecialfriend
Jul 8, 2017

by Hand Knit

SpaceCadetBob posted:

The build I'm thinking of going with is:
Hana 4*+10
Firesweep+
Glimmer
LAD 3
Drag Back
Something or other
Heavy Blade 2 Seal

I'll probably pair her with Lancina since the extra buffs might be pretty solid. Anything glaring I'm oopsing on?

Ur main oopsie is that a 5+0 soleil is better than a 4+10 Hana so why bother at that point

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


AverySpecialfriend posted:

Ur main oopsie is that a 5+0 soleil is better than a 4+10 Hana so why bother at that point

Hana is a regular bonus unit

I'll definitely get a 4* +10 Hana going at some point

AverySpecialfriend
Jul 8, 2017

by Hand Knit

Andrast posted:

Hana is a regular bonus unit

Soleil has a good face

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


AverySpecialfriend posted:

Soleil has a good face

Hana is also faster

and it's easier to get a good natured Hana

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
I now have 469 heroes and I can't find a use of them

too many icebergs and useless healers

maybe ill make a guard bow niles one day but i keep remember that innes is basically niles but better

SpaceCadetBob
Dec 27, 2012
The main reason I'm doing the build is because of the arena slot protection she provides. I've already +10'd wrapped up Olivia, Sophia, Gunter, and Cecilia, so I'm getting closer to having to no longer worry about stupid bonus units if the gatcha decides to be annoying one week.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


SpaceCadetBob posted:

The main reason I'm doing the build is because of the arena slot protection she provides. I've already +10'd wrapped up Olivia, Sophia, Gunter, and Cecilia, so I'm getting closer to having to no longer worry about stupid bonus units if the gatcha decides to be annoying one week.

I'm glad I'm not the only one doing this with the regular bonus units

Centzon Totochtin
Jan 2, 2009
Faced a team with a +10 Xmas Tharja, +10 Xmas Chrom, +10 Tannenboom Nephenee... And a level 39 4*+10 Gunther. drat whale couldn't even finished leveling his bonus unit smdh

AverySpecialfriend
Jul 8, 2017

by Hand Knit

Andrast posted:

Hana is also faster

and it's easier to get a good natured Hana

1 more spd but 3 less atk and my soleil is +atk which pwns hilariously sorryyyyy

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


AverySpecialfriend posted:

1 more spd but 3 less atk and my soleil is +atk which pwns hilariously sorryyyyy

A 4* +10 Hana would have three more speed than a 5* +0 Soleil which is what we were comparing

41 vs 38 speed is a lot

SpaceCadetBob
Dec 27, 2012
Well I've pulled two Soleil, and currently they are both identical -Spd +Def. So off to build Hana I go.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Though noted for his status as a positioning specialist and effective tank, Gunter was perhaps best known for his constant and exuberant gunting

Ostentatious
Sep 29, 2010

SpaceCadetBob posted:

The build I'm thinking of going with is:
Hana 4*+10
Firesweep+
Glimmer
LAD 3
Drag Back
Something or other
Heavy Blade 2 Seal

I'll probably pair her with Lancina since the extra buffs might be pretty solid. Anything glaring I'm oopsing on?

your Hana is good. I like Swordbreaker a lot though personally

Edit: I should clarify I go up against a lot of Ayra whales

Ostentatious fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Jan 4, 2018

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Ayra whales are great because she’s like perfect fodder for my fcorrin to kill

Severedseven
Jun 6, 2007

Heavy and light

Andrast posted:

Razzle Dazzle healers are good

Also the staff debuffs are actually worthwhile now



This is my project. Still working on the skills before I spend any feathers on +s. A slot is temporary but works well to make her a magic tank in a horse team. C slot gets changed around between Threaten Atk, horse buffs, and Savage Blow 3. I realize it's a mostly silly/meme build but when you hit most of a team for 24 splash damage it feels good. Enemy units with WoM kinda ruins it for arena though.

Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
I love missing out on feathers because I slept through bonuses. Fun game mode!

Emalde
May 3, 2007

Just a cage of bones, there's nothing inside.

Tired Moritz posted:

I love missing out on feathers because I slept through bonuses. Fun game mode!

If you mean Tharja, there hasn't been a bonus in like 7 hours. Azura and Ryoma should be bouncing until the end of the round.

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy
I feel like if horse bst is so low I should be seeing it at 692-696 but it's just Xmas armors with infantry mixed in for days. The biggest surprise I ever have to check is who has armor march and if wom is mixed in.

Washout
Jun 27, 2003

"Your toy soldiers are not pigmented to my scrupulous standards. As a result, you are not worthy of my time. Good day sir"

Centzon Totochtin posted:

Faced a team with a +10 Xmas Tharja, +10 Xmas Chrom, +10 Tannenboom Nephenee... And a level 39 4*+10 Gunther. drat whale couldn't even finished leveling his bonus unit smdh

Can anyone spitball how much each of those cost?

Here is my guess?

The +10 units are upwards of $750 each so like 3 grand for that team? Jesus

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
The median cost of a featured unit is 80-90 orbs depending on color. A bit lower if you're aiming for multiple units simultaneously

Emalde
May 3, 2007

Just a cage of bones, there's nothing inside.
:staredog: I think both Lissa and Ryoma just had their victories secured. Perhaps memes are dreams?

blizzardvizard
Sep 12, 2012

Shhh... don't wake up the sleeping lion :3:

Lissa's win this round is pretty much guaranteed, but the gap between Ryoma and Azura is smaller and he may well overshoot and prevent a last-hour bonus.

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Tired Moritz
Mar 25, 2012

wish Lowtax would get tired of YOUR POSTS

(n o i c e)
Lissa winning is good

I wamt my Ryoma feathers though

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